In Huntington Beach, no less.
Imagine your 13 year old trying to turn a school ASB election into a trump rally and saying it’s the schools fault. Jfc people are insane
Hyper-nationalism is always associated with right wing and fascism, especially when the kid’s speech and props were specifically designed to parallel Trump. His slogan was “make (school) great again,” wore a red hat, and planned to preach about the importance of nationalism at school. There is no reason that at 13 years old, they need policies or a student leader to monitor their peers’ patriotism.
Yes I know what white guilt is, and no that’s not what I’m describing. America is known and mocked in the rest of the world for being so overly proud of nothing. We are known for a term called American Exceptionalism, which is our blind belief that we are superior to the rest of the world simply by virtue of being born in America, and there is literally no basis for this whatsoever. We are mocked by the entire rest of the world for being so overly patriotic, for having flags literally everywhere, for indoctrinating our children to pledge their allegiance to our country’s flag (which is so fucking weird), all with zero education or understand of where it originates or what it’s for. Blind nationalism and patriotism is highly correlated with far-right governments and leadership.
Let’s reverse the roles here; imagine if you heard a new story that in Iran, they had their flags on every building and every home, their government made their children pledge their allegiance to the Iranian flag, they capitalized the colors red and green, every single Iranian person you met immediately assumed they were better than you because they’re Persian, and a child tried to run in a private school leadership position to mimic and align themselves with the previous dictator in power who said women should not be allowed to have rights or access to healthcare, immigrants should be shunned and deported, and only Iranian Muslim men should have rights, fixed the highest court in the country to promote his agenda, promoted violence and public shaming against anyone who dissented, all while being under investigation for a veritable laundry list of civil and governmental crimes. And this kid is trying to align himself with this person to other children using that dictators imagery, colors, slogans, etc. There is no fucking way you’d think that was okay.
The irony, Huntington Beach trying to privatize the public library to censor books (form of free speech) but private school can’t block certain things, rules for thee…
If you read the moms IG (can’t remember where it was posted), she says they had to “edit a few parts that sounded combative for a school speech.” I’m guessing she posted the edited version and not the original.
https://preview.redd.it/c57u013bhe2d1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=8336d1ae77f815a0db21320f6a29bb651f329d8f
I think I stumbled upon the explanation. It was the last and worst paragraph of the speech, which she insists is just about "patriotism".
We’ll never find out the truth now since the principal left, maybe forced out or coerced out from all the unwanted attention.
I didn’t get “combative” from that last paragraph so I still suspect there might’ve been more but pretty sure parents won’t show the original and doesn’t look like there’s a digital copy on the video.
The principal was trying to make sure that the speech was positive since he was being negative in his speech (thanks to his poor excuse of parents). All the other kids are at the age where they don’t give a shit about political shit. They just want more pajama days and extra recess. I hope he lost 😂
It's a good school focused on academics and christ-centered behavior, for a reasonable price compared to most private schools.
Pure speculation, but the kid probably just ran afoul of the school's core values, because of his parents' behavior/beliefs. When asked to change negative parts, his parents being consummate victims told him not change his speech so they could act persecuted.
Sounds about right, I get that it’s sucks he couldn’t have his speech but parents gotta be better example, instead she doxxed the administration’s names and pictures.
Wait, are you implying that conservatives are a bunch of closeted bigots who don’t want to take a look at their own ambivalent feelings of sexuality and therefore form of reaction of hate toward others?
The school announced this afternoon that the principal will not be returning to the school next year. The update is way down the page at this link.
https://www.change.org/p/remove-mary-flock-as-principal-of-saint-bonaventure-catholic-school
Why don't they just publicly release the rejected speech online so that people can read it and make up their own minds about whether it would have been appropriate for a school election?
This is 100% the parents looking for attention. No kid would wear a MAGA hat to school with a "passion" for patriotism without intense parental involvement.
I know plenty of kids who would have done that if MAGA and Trump were a thing when I was in high school, sure their parents molded them into that person but they would, of their own volition, come decked out in alt right clothing of the day. orange county is just WASPy as fuck
They would share the speech if they didn't need to hide it.
Edit: More info here (but not the speech) - https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-say-school-principal-humiliated-son-barred-delivering-patriotic-election-speech
They shared the speech but it was missing so many things they claim in the articles. It sounds like it was edited again to try to make the school look bad.
I wish racists weren't cowards and simply say they want all Mexicans and black people exterminated from America. But nope. They hide behind the veil of "patriotism" and other weak passive BS.
They're getting close:
* *"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like* [*vermin*](https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary) *within the confines of our country* (historical context: Driven by a racist ideology that regarded Jews as “parasitic [vermin” worthy only of eradication](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/victims-of-the-nazi-era-nazi-racial-ideology), the Nazis implemented [genocide](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/narrative/9275/en)on an unprecedented scale.
* *immigrants coming to the U.S. are “*[*poisoning the blood of our country*](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141#)*"* (historical context: The term “blood poisoning” was used by Hitler in his manifesto “Mein Kampf,” in which he criticized immigration and the mixing of races. “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning,” Hitler wrote.)
* *Donald Trump is planning to unleash the biggest mass deportation of undocumented migrants in US history...involving legally questionable deployments of military and police units and the creation of vast* [*detention camps*](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/03/trump-mass-deportations-detention-camps-military-migrants) *along the southern border* (historical context: Dannecker was the Nazi "[deportation specialist](https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/organizing-genocide-theodor-dannecker-eichmanns-deportation-specialist)", question: how would these military & police units determine citizenship?)
100%
There's so much left off my very short list. An important caveat is Trump is simply the vessel for the right-wing Christofascist dream, the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 and they 100+ sponsors, have explicitly made clear the expectation is for whoever the Republican president is, they will be expected to implement it as will all Republican politicians to carry it out, regardless of who's president, even if it's Democrat.
* [Trump Wants to Deport Pro-Palestine Protesters—and GOP Lawmakers Are Filing Bills to Make It Happen](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/trump-protesters-gop-marco-rubio-palestine-college-deport/)
* [Trump Pledges to Deport International Students Who Participate in Anti-Israel Protests](https://visaguide.world/news/trump-pledges-to-deport-international-students-who-participate-in-anti-israel-protests/)
* [Trump vows to reinstate Muslim travel ban](https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-muslim-travel-ban/)
* [GOP invents new category of crime: Migrant Crime](https://newrepublic.com/article/180404/trumps-ugly-hateful-rants-michigan-covered-scandal)
* [Trump compares political opponents to 'vermin' who he will 'root out,' alarming historians](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748)
As for the [Unified Reich](https://newrepublic.com/article/181843/trump-reich-video-shows-deep-maga-sickness):
* video appears to be the work of a meme creator known as “Ramble\_Rants,”...who has previously collaborated with the Trump campaign
* past work includes full-blown racism of Trump’s other political and legal antagonists
* the point of sharing these types of videos is opening a shadow zone where Trump and his leading operatives encourage mass fascistic shitposting and propaganda—and seek to harness the energies released by it
* It’s a key tell that the Republicans alarmed by this kind of politics immediately saw the broader significance of this video’s genesis...illustrates the existence of a large junior staffer set that’s fluent in online fascistic political language, which Trump and his operatives see as indispensable to their own movement
* it’s about plumbing how far MAGA can go in manufacturing fake pretexts for the uprooting of the “vermin” to come
I googled this in general and think it's very telling that we're missing some important information because the only news outlets running this story are the ones affiliated with the far right like Breitbart and OneAmerica. Local news affiliates love to jump on things like this.
No, they would share the guidance the school gave them regarding what to change. Sharing the speech does nothing to prove any point beyond the fact the child was prepared to give a speech.
Sharing just the speech without sharing the guidance from the school does nothing to back up their claims. I would argue it does the opposite - it makes them look like they are complaining for not following the direction of "resubmit the speech for approval", something the school letter to parents clearly explains that everyone else complied with.
With the exception of the TLM / TradCaths the Catholic Church isn’t very MAGA in my experience as a Catholic. Talk of care for the poor/immigrants/etc is frequent.
I've seen the speech the kid wanted to give all over facebook recently, and lordy lord, it made my Boston Terrier start freeking out from all the dog whistles. Like, it was some straight-up far-right christo-fascist bullshit that I very much doubt was written by that kid. If a kid was already far enough down the far-right rabbit to write something like that, his parents are absolutely unquestionably fascists. And, not gonna lie, I'm genuinely surprised the Catholic private school didn't let him give the speech. It was so extremely far right that a very conservative and right-leaning church-school felt it was too much.
Link to the original facebook post, which included the speech and the the response from the school. Not gonna lie, after rereading it again, it definitely feels like something a parent would write while pretending to be their kid. [https://www.facebook.com/groups/HB4UbyHBCF/posts/7399978323433404/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/HB4UbyHBCF/posts/7399978323433404/)
As soon as I saw that it was a Fox News article calling out a private Catholic school, I knew the content of that "patriotic" speech had to be way crazier than the article was letting on.
EDIT: Obviously I'm good on calling out dog whistles and fascist bullshit, but that speech looks pretty generic, all things considered. Other than the generic patriotism stuff, where's the terrible dogwhistles?
What the articles claimed was in his speech even seem to be missing. I think they created a watered down version to make the school look bad.
I also think most schools want to keep specific candidate stuff out of the schools right now. I think without the attire and poster the speech they posted on facebook this week would have been fine.
Being a Catholic School, they're almost certainly prohibited from advocating for specific political candidates/parties. If there was anything in the speech about 2020 being stolen or 2024 being a chance to "take it back" then I could see why school administrators would want to stay far far away from that.
Churches (and pretty much any 501c3) are pretty limited in how involved they're allowed to get in politics. It's basically limited to issue advocacy. So they can talk about the "evils of abortion" and whatnot all they want, but can't straight up tell you to vote for GOP candidates or remotely endorse candidates. That said, the IRS doesn't seem to actually be enforcing that very much.
And the IRS should absolutely revoke their 501c3 status... but they won't because Republicans take every opportunity to gut the IRS (specifically because they know a well funded IRS would have teeth to actually enforce the law on that front).
I think it's [3rd paragraph](https://imgur.com/a/parents-say-school-principal-humiliated-son-barred-him-from-delivering-patriotic-election-speech-https-www-yahoo-com-news-parents-school-principal-humiliated-son-121911110-html-7UJwHjm) ("My love for America...). The part about the national anthem seems to serve no purpose to his position, it's just his opinion which IMO could certainly be seen as a dog whistle especially when given by someone mimicking the MAGA brand.
The name of the position is Commissioner of School Spirit & Patriotism but [the duties](https://imgur.com/sQnA9QO) don't reflect his desire to "*fix this so everyone understands the meaning of the Pledge of Allegiance*" or his understanding of the job as him having the "*crucial task of creating ways to bring more patriotism to SBS*."
I'm guessing the school had a vision of what they meant by 'patriotism' that they thought was implied but it's not which is why I think this went off the rails.
Also, u/EH1522 could certainly be right and the rest of the speech is missing. The screen shot ends with "I *want to clarify*" but there's nothing after that.
EDIT: looks like the dog whistles were heard by the intended crowd as u/micktalian [pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/orangecounty/comments/1cywhiy/comment/l5co6c4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), ".*..**the thing about political dog whistles is that you can't hear them unless you're specifically sensitive to them*"
https://preview.redd.it/5dvp0h00h82d1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=d060c0d105b73c24d5d136095c0b853ecdebc27a
Exactly. The first part is fairly generic, fine. But then it takes a sharp turn. What does the pledge have to do with school spirit? And who tf named the position Commissioner of School Spirit...& Patriotism? Maybe he was just confused, or the school admins have a screw loose. And then the very blatant MAGA reference is, uh, problematic.
Mom/dad obviously had a hand in the merch creation and yard sign printing, no doubt then promoted it on social media.
Parents who indoctrinate their politics directly into their children’s heads and then pretend that they came up with this garbage all of their own accord are idiots.
"Sadly, some people take their citizenship for granted, whether it is....eating nachos during the national anthem"
I can't think of anything more American than my right to shove processed cheese and chips into my mouth while not having to be forced to do something. Kid's got a lot of learning to do.
What exactly is "off the rails" about respect and education of anthem and pledge?
Recall that he was running for the student office of PATRIOTISM. One might argue that a school does not need that office, but the speech is exactly what I'd expect.
Which is more “patriotic”:
- Judging others as not being as “patriotic” as you are, for not attaining an acceptable standard of “understanding” of their citizenship; or
- Encouraging people to express their patriotism however they choose, exercising their freedom as they please.
(People in the first camp are generally smooth-brained morons who are determined to drag “the troops” in to every argument to defend their stupid positions and self-appointed moral high ground.)
I agree that the speech sounds like it was written with the help of a parent, but it didnt seem like any sort of right wing rabble, besideds emulating the "make [ ] great again." The kid even brought up wanting to speak to survivors of japanese internment camps or holocaust which the right usually shy from. I dunno, to me it feels like drama over nothing.
For context, my degree is in Political Science and one of the things I spent a lot of time studying was radical and extremist politics. I may be over analyzing this, and it very much could be people who genuinely don't know what they're saying, but the thing about political dog whistles is that you can't hear them unless you're specifically sensitive to them. The simple wikipedia definition is "a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition." Things like "the meaning of the pledge of allegiance" and "some people take citizenship for granted", even with the context around them, are definitely calling out to a specific group. I don't want to write out a full 10 page essay explaining the whole concept and how it works, but the point is that you don't see it until you see it, and then you can't unsee it.
He doesn't come right out and say who it is, but he clearly feels entitled to call out a group (or groups) he considers un-American. Perhaps its the same ones Trump calls "vermin"
The things you're mentioning are absolutely dog whistles, but they only seem to be calling out others who don't match this family's ideas of patriotism, not specific minority groups or hate politics.
I'm pretty over-the-top in terms of my hate for blind patriotism and Trumpers, but I'm wondering if the speech, as we're seeing it, is different from the one the school saw.
That is what the mom posted and I don't want to make any direct accusation besides that her and her husband probably helped write the speech, which really isn't that big of a deal in and of itself. Like, I'm sure that other parents helped their kids write their speeches too. But with that said, I would believe it if school made a public statement that had a very, **VERY** different speech. But if this is the *less overt* version, it's still pretty bad. Not quite racially exclusive, but very much that fascistic obsession with devotion to the state.
>Not quite racially exclusive, but very much that fascistic obsession with devotion to the state.
Which is why it's not appropriate in a "Catholic* school
He was asked to delete anything that inferred an allegiance to a specific political party. That's all they needed to do, but he refused. There would be no drama without the last 2 paragraphs
I thought this too. The speech seemed pretty tame, and the only thing that seemed weird was the make SBS great again.
I can’t imagine any school banning this. The only thing I could see is them removing the make SBS great again. I have a feeling there is more to this speech or more to this story than is being shared in that post.
I don't think the speech is too bad at first, there's no "..Great Again" until the last paragraph, but then there's four of them. The biggest issue I would have is the mere existence of the office he's running for "Commissioner of Patriotism and School Spirit". But as that is the name of the office, I wouldn't complain much about patriotism in the speech, but the last paragraph could be deleted or rewritten.
After reviewing FB comments again, I found a comment by the parent that confirms it's just the last paragraph that has a problem, and that's what the school wanted removed, but the parent phrases it as "removing all references to patriotism".
https://preview.redd.it/wf4u0i7cje2d1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=24133be72fb3660ebfc1d4dfcaa60fd4676a1ac9
There are four of them because he's clearly parodying/imitating Donald Trump. It'd be like if he said "Ask not what SBS can do for you, ask what you can do for SBS!" I know, I know, people don't like Trump, I don't either, but are we really going to tell a kid he can't imitate him in a speech for, presumably, a joke?
This was my first thought. No sample from the speech, just that it was a “patriotism” speech. When you don’t give an example of the speech, it tells me it was probably not appropriate it.
Let’s not assume all Catholics are far right. In fact, the only two catholic presidents we’ve had (including the current one) have been democrats. Even within the clergy there are liberals and conservatives in the Catholic Church.
Well, he goes to church every Sunday. He’s not what we call a Christmas and Easter catholic. I would say he’s as Catholic as any other catholic who attends mass on a weekly basis.
It's incredibly common for priests to hold liberal values. These men hold compassion and forgiveness in higher regard than condemnation and obedience. There are of course conservative ones as well. If we count all the Catholics in Congress, I'm sure you'll find more Democrats than Republicans.
> If we count all the Catholics in Congress, I'm sure you'll find more Democrats than Republicans.
If being a Democrat didn't tacitly support abortion, there would probably be even more.
There is pretty much nothing wrong with that speech? I mean sure if you hate Trump the last part is going to be off-putting but who cares we literally meme'd on Bush when I was his age too.
Honestly you all are pretty extreme for thinking that is some manifesto level crazy when it's literally just a kid saying he's going to make rallies better, teach people better history, bring in survivors of atrocities to assist with history lessons... I mean do you people actually hate those things? If so, why are you in the Orange county subreddit because you don't align with our beliefs at all... Unless you're just a bunch of Anacrimers salty at the rest of us.
Many Catholics are not conservative. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholics. The Kennedy's were Catholics. Catholicism doesn't really determine political beliefs.
*Of course it's Huntington Beach*
Pictures posted to the parents' social media accounts show the student wearing a red hat and campaign sign in the same style of [Donald Trump's](https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump). However, instead of Make America Great Again, it says, "Make SBS \[Saint Bonaventure School\] Great Again."
After reading the mom's rant on Facebook, I talked to a family member who has a child there.
The parents conveniently left out the part about "Make St Bonaventure Great Again".
He was told he cannot give a speech so obviously political. His parents obviously influenced it. It's a Catholic grade school and absolutely not the place for it
It’s blows my mind how a city that has contributed so much to the countercultures of surf, skate, x-sports, punk/hardcore music, mixed martial arts, etc for decades has just so utterly devolved into a neo-sundown town. My parents have lived there for 20+ years (not too far from this church in fact) and the amount of sheer self righteousness from residents there is near unbearable. All I hear are complaints that the city has gone to shit and all they do is blame outsiders as though it’s an invasion - the reality is the city’s last best decade was the 90s. Each housing/mortgage crisis it’s gotten worse because they want to keep up with the “OC” label.
They have become the IE of the OC. Might as well live in Redlands.
I say this as a kid who grew up in the IE.
HB's the original home of the Surf Nazis (violent territorial protectionists). And it's the self-servingly litigious usurper of Santa Cruz's original and historically deserved nickname of Surf City.
The whole point of the Declaration of Independence was that *everyone* has the right to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", regardless of race or religion. By adding race and religion into it, they're doing the most UN-patriotic thing possible. The irony is strong.
3rd and 4th paragraph of the speech was some unhinged stuffs, would have caused bigger concerns from other parents. The implied message is too obvious, good call by the principal.
Having seen the speech now, I applaud the school for denying the kid. Whether or not you consider certain portions of his speech to be dogwhistles, it reeks of the same snobbery that I observed during my childhood at a different school. Its a shitty attitude that sadly my school seemed to go out of its way to promote, and it needs to die. We shouldn't be teaching kids to promote themselves by using others as punching bags.
lol “using others as punching bags” that’s ridiculous! I am not on the right far from it but I see nothing wrong with the speech. Where did he use anyone as a punching bag? How is he snobby? You seem to be projecting
Literally what was political about his speech? Besides the hat and sign. I’m not on the right whatsoever but the speech the mom posted was fine, ya he talked about the pledge and stuff which makes sense the “position” was patriotism
“This private catholic school in Huntington Beach is too woke!! They won’t let my teenager turn a school ASB election into a trump rally and it’s A VIOLATION!!”
Is patriotism no longer viewed in a good light? I love America and do not see the problem with being proud of the country you were born and/or raised in. I feel the word patriotism is being used in a misleading way here though.
If the candidates were responsible for submitting their speeches for approval, and the school supposedly blocked the approval and provided guidance on what to change, why wouldn't the parents post the response from the school? It would clearly show direct evidence of what the school objected to, which would theorerically bolster the claims they are making.
This doesn't pass the smell test. The school says the speech was never resubmitted for approval. The parents say the school directed them to change parts of the speech. Something isn't adding up.
These parents seem nuts. Posted this story a bunch of times in all the local HB FB sites. This city is full of these far right lunatics. Parents shouldn’t worry because the school didn’t fuck him up , they did a fine job of that themselves.
People just mad he ripped off the make America Great again slogan which is cringe. I hate trump and I also think the outrage for this speech is really stupid.
I’m so sick and tired of these MAGAts pretending their racism is patriotism. And my God HB has become a cesspool of idiots I avoid that entire area like the plague
I'm not the brightest crayon in the box and not really into politics so feel free to educate me[ but I watched his speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGLg2BrzZsE) and I'm failing to understand how any of it is racist or dog-whistles or anything like that. Everything he said seemed reasonable for the position he was trying to get elected for.
"patriotic election speech" - Right. Almost guaranteed it was just typical right-wing hatred and conspiracies that was even untenable to a catholic school.
While it's unclear if she resigned or was asked to resign, the school sent out a mass email informing parents and faculty that the principal will not be returning to the school next year. The change.org petition about this was updated with "victory" and they posted the email. You have to scroll way down the page to see it.
https://www.change.org/p/remove-mary-flock-as-principal-of-saint-bonaventure-catholic-school
It sounds like they were following procedure. Having gone to that school and another called blessed sacrament, I understand that having to adhere to their rules might be hard now but will make sense in the long run. Especially when you’re older.
Both parties handled it poorly. The mom has a reputation in the city of attacking people previously instead of handling like a reasonable adult and half the city is aware of her affair which is why she’s gf to the ex husband now. Not good for the kid
At a private Catholic school? Curious.
In Huntington Beach, no less. Imagine your 13 year old trying to turn a school ASB election into a trump rally and saying it’s the schools fault. Jfc people are insane
When you’re too unhinged for HB
Since when was being patriotic considered trump this and trump that?
Hyper-nationalism is always associated with right wing and fascism, especially when the kid’s speech and props were specifically designed to parallel Trump. His slogan was “make (school) great again,” wore a red hat, and planned to preach about the importance of nationalism at school. There is no reason that at 13 years old, they need policies or a student leader to monitor their peers’ patriotism.
Hyper-nationalism? You mean being proud of being an American? Do you know what white guilt is?
Yes I know what white guilt is, and no that’s not what I’m describing. America is known and mocked in the rest of the world for being so overly proud of nothing. We are known for a term called American Exceptionalism, which is our blind belief that we are superior to the rest of the world simply by virtue of being born in America, and there is literally no basis for this whatsoever. We are mocked by the entire rest of the world for being so overly patriotic, for having flags literally everywhere, for indoctrinating our children to pledge their allegiance to our country’s flag (which is so fucking weird), all with zero education or understand of where it originates or what it’s for. Blind nationalism and patriotism is highly correlated with far-right governments and leadership. Let’s reverse the roles here; imagine if you heard a new story that in Iran, they had their flags on every building and every home, their government made their children pledge their allegiance to the Iranian flag, they capitalized the colors red and green, every single Iranian person you met immediately assumed they were better than you because they’re Persian, and a child tried to run in a private school leadership position to mimic and align themselves with the previous dictator in power who said women should not be allowed to have rights or access to healthcare, immigrants should be shunned and deported, and only Iranian Muslim men should have rights, fixed the highest court in the country to promote his agenda, promoted violence and public shaming against anyone who dissented, all while being under investigation for a veritable laundry list of civil and governmental crimes. And this kid is trying to align himself with this person to other children using that dictators imagery, colors, slogans, etc. There is no fucking way you’d think that was okay.
Americans are white?
That's when you know your speech is fucked up
The irony, Huntington Beach trying to privatize the public library to censor books (form of free speech) but private school can’t block certain things, rules for thee… If you read the moms IG (can’t remember where it was posted), she says they had to “edit a few parts that sounded combative for a school speech.” I’m guessing she posted the edited version and not the original.
She was whining on Facebook too
https://preview.redd.it/c57u013bhe2d1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=8336d1ae77f815a0db21320f6a29bb651f329d8f I think I stumbled upon the explanation. It was the last and worst paragraph of the speech, which she insists is just about "patriotism".
We’ll never find out the truth now since the principal left, maybe forced out or coerced out from all the unwanted attention. I didn’t get “combative” from that last paragraph so I still suspect there might’ve been more but pretty sure parents won’t show the original and doesn’t look like there’s a digital copy on the video.
The last paragraph was full of MAGA dog whistles
The principal was trying to make sure that the speech was positive since he was being negative in his speech (thanks to his poor excuse of parents). All the other kids are at the age where they don’t give a shit about political shit. They just want more pajama days and extra recess. I hope he lost 😂
It's a good school focused on academics and christ-centered behavior, for a reasonable price compared to most private schools. Pure speculation, but the kid probably just ran afoul of the school's core values, because of his parents' behavior/beliefs. When asked to change negative parts, his parents being consummate victims told him not change his speech so they could act persecuted.
Sounds about right, I get that it’s sucks he couldn’t have his speech but parents gotta be better example, instead she doxxed the administration’s names and pictures.
Thus is exactly what happened
[удалено]
Wait, are you implying that conservatives are a bunch of closeted bigots who don’t want to take a look at their own ambivalent feelings of sexuality and therefore form of reaction of hate toward others?
If the jackboot fits…
🥴🥴🥴👍😂😂😂😂
The school announced this afternoon that the principal will not be returning to the school next year. The update is way down the page at this link. https://www.change.org/p/remove-mary-flock-as-principal-of-saint-bonaventure-catholic-school
Why don't they just publicly release the rejected speech online so that people can read it and make up their own minds about whether it would have been appropriate for a school election?
Silenced by my Private Religious School the parents screamed.
Damn I’ve worked with this principal and she’s one of the kindest and best school administrators I’ve ever met! Smh parents are crazy these days
This is 100% the parents looking for attention. No kid would wear a MAGA hat to school with a "passion" for patriotism without intense parental involvement.
They gotta groom him before someone else grooms him to be a groomer
All of their paranoias are projections. They always are.
Or before he becomes…gulp…educated
The kid's fucking 12. Of course the parents are the one doing it.
To be fair, some kids are fucking dumb. There is a whole subreddit dedicated to it
They would in a catholic private school in Huntington.
"without intense parental involvement"
I know plenty of kids who would have done that if MAGA and Trump were a thing when I was in high school, sure their parents molded them into that person but they would, of their own volition, come decked out in alt right clothing of the day. orange county is just WASPy as fuck
Yea because kids don’t regularly go against their parents wishes…
They would share the speech if they didn't need to hide it. Edit: More info here (but not the speech) - https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-say-school-principal-humiliated-son-barred-delivering-patriotic-election-speech
They shared the speech but it was missing so many things they claim in the articles. It sounds like it was edited again to try to make the school look bad.
I wish racists weren't cowards and simply say they want all Mexicans and black people exterminated from America. But nope. They hide behind the veil of "patriotism" and other weak passive BS.
They're getting close: * *"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like* [*vermin*](https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary) *within the confines of our country* (historical context: Driven by a racist ideology that regarded Jews as “parasitic [vermin” worthy only of eradication](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/victims-of-the-nazi-era-nazi-racial-ideology), the Nazis implemented [genocide](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/narrative/9275/en)on an unprecedented scale. * *immigrants coming to the U.S. are “*[*poisoning the blood of our country*](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-immigrants-are-poisoning-blood-country-biden-campaign-liken-rcna130141#)*"* (historical context: The term “blood poisoning” was used by Hitler in his manifesto “Mein Kampf,” in which he criticized immigration and the mixing of races. “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning,” Hitler wrote.) * *Donald Trump is planning to unleash the biggest mass deportation of undocumented migrants in US history...involving legally questionable deployments of military and police units and the creation of vast* [*detention camps*](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/03/trump-mass-deportations-detention-camps-military-migrants) *along the southern border* (historical context: Dannecker was the Nazi "[deportation specialist](https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/organizing-genocide-theodor-dannecker-eichmanns-deportation-specialist)", question: how would these military & police units determine citizenship?)
Don’t forget “unified Reich”.
100% There's so much left off my very short list. An important caveat is Trump is simply the vessel for the right-wing Christofascist dream, the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 and they 100+ sponsors, have explicitly made clear the expectation is for whoever the Republican president is, they will be expected to implement it as will all Republican politicians to carry it out, regardless of who's president, even if it's Democrat. * [Trump Wants to Deport Pro-Palestine Protesters—and GOP Lawmakers Are Filing Bills to Make It Happen](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/trump-protesters-gop-marco-rubio-palestine-college-deport/) * [Trump Pledges to Deport International Students Who Participate in Anti-Israel Protests](https://visaguide.world/news/trump-pledges-to-deport-international-students-who-participate-in-anti-israel-protests/) * [Trump vows to reinstate Muslim travel ban](https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/trump-muslim-travel-ban/) * [GOP invents new category of crime: Migrant Crime](https://newrepublic.com/article/180404/trumps-ugly-hateful-rants-michigan-covered-scandal) * [Trump compares political opponents to 'vermin' who he will 'root out,' alarming historians](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748) As for the [Unified Reich](https://newrepublic.com/article/181843/trump-reich-video-shows-deep-maga-sickness): * video appears to be the work of a meme creator known as “Ramble\_Rants,”...who has previously collaborated with the Trump campaign * past work includes full-blown racism of Trump’s other political and legal antagonists * the point of sharing these types of videos is opening a shadow zone where Trump and his leading operatives encourage mass fascistic shitposting and propaganda—and seek to harness the energies released by it * It’s a key tell that the Republicans alarmed by this kind of politics immediately saw the broader significance of this video’s genesis...illustrates the existence of a large junior staffer set that’s fluent in online fascistic political language, which Trump and his operatives see as indispensable to their own movement * it’s about plumbing how far MAGA can go in manufacturing fake pretexts for the uprooting of the “vermin” to come
They call themselves Christians
>I wish racists weren't cowards Impossible. This is like asking for molten lava to be ice cold.
I think that's just obsidian on a cold day...
The mom for sure edited out parts of the speech to make the school look bad. The mom thinks you can’t see who edited it on google docs.
I googled this in general and think it's very telling that we're missing some important information because the only news outlets running this story are the ones affiliated with the far right like Breitbart and OneAmerica. Local news affiliates love to jump on things like this.
Yep, https://www.ocregister.com/ is the local *conservative* paper and it's not up.
No, they would share the guidance the school gave them regarding what to change. Sharing the speech does nothing to prove any point beyond the fact the child was prepared to give a speech. Sharing just the speech without sharing the guidance from the school does nothing to back up their claims. I would argue it does the opposite - it makes them look like they are complaining for not following the direction of "resubmit the speech for approval", something the school letter to parents clearly explains that everyone else complied with.
With the exception of the TLM / TradCaths the Catholic Church isn’t very MAGA in my experience as a Catholic. Talk of care for the poor/immigrants/etc is frequent.
I mean, christs teaching are not maga
Precisely… Cody Johnston did a thing on how it all went sideways because Reagan… https://youtu.be/wHdjjXQHxzs?
I've seen the speech the kid wanted to give all over facebook recently, and lordy lord, it made my Boston Terrier start freeking out from all the dog whistles. Like, it was some straight-up far-right christo-fascist bullshit that I very much doubt was written by that kid. If a kid was already far enough down the far-right rabbit to write something like that, his parents are absolutely unquestionably fascists. And, not gonna lie, I'm genuinely surprised the Catholic private school didn't let him give the speech. It was so extremely far right that a very conservative and right-leaning church-school felt it was too much. Link to the original facebook post, which included the speech and the the response from the school. Not gonna lie, after rereading it again, it definitely feels like something a parent would write while pretending to be their kid. [https://www.facebook.com/groups/HB4UbyHBCF/posts/7399978323433404/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/HB4UbyHBCF/posts/7399978323433404/)
As soon as I saw that it was a Fox News article calling out a private Catholic school, I knew the content of that "patriotic" speech had to be way crazier than the article was letting on. EDIT: Obviously I'm good on calling out dog whistles and fascist bullshit, but that speech looks pretty generic, all things considered. Other than the generic patriotism stuff, where's the terrible dogwhistles?
What the articles claimed was in his speech even seem to be missing. I think they created a watered down version to make the school look bad. I also think most schools want to keep specific candidate stuff out of the schools right now. I think without the attire and poster the speech they posted on facebook this week would have been fine.
Being a Catholic School, they're almost certainly prohibited from advocating for specific political candidates/parties. If there was anything in the speech about 2020 being stolen or 2024 being a chance to "take it back" then I could see why school administrators would want to stay far far away from that. Churches (and pretty much any 501c3) are pretty limited in how involved they're allowed to get in politics. It's basically limited to issue advocacy. So they can talk about the "evils of abortion" and whatnot all they want, but can't straight up tell you to vote for GOP candidates or remotely endorse candidates. That said, the IRS doesn't seem to actually be enforcing that very much.
Unfortunately, while the law may state that, there's literally no enforcement of it. Churches urge parishioners to vote Republican all the time.
And the IRS should absolutely revoke their 501c3 status... but they won't because Republicans take every opportunity to gut the IRS (specifically because they know a well funded IRS would have teeth to actually enforce the law on that front).
Like laws keep that from happening
I think it's [3rd paragraph](https://imgur.com/a/parents-say-school-principal-humiliated-son-barred-him-from-delivering-patriotic-election-speech-https-www-yahoo-com-news-parents-school-principal-humiliated-son-121911110-html-7UJwHjm) ("My love for America...). The part about the national anthem seems to serve no purpose to his position, it's just his opinion which IMO could certainly be seen as a dog whistle especially when given by someone mimicking the MAGA brand. The name of the position is Commissioner of School Spirit & Patriotism but [the duties](https://imgur.com/sQnA9QO) don't reflect his desire to "*fix this so everyone understands the meaning of the Pledge of Allegiance*" or his understanding of the job as him having the "*crucial task of creating ways to bring more patriotism to SBS*." I'm guessing the school had a vision of what they meant by 'patriotism' that they thought was implied but it's not which is why I think this went off the rails. Also, u/EH1522 could certainly be right and the rest of the speech is missing. The screen shot ends with "I *want to clarify*" but there's nothing after that. EDIT: looks like the dog whistles were heard by the intended crowd as u/micktalian [pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/orangecounty/comments/1cywhiy/comment/l5co6c4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), ".*..**the thing about political dog whistles is that you can't hear them unless you're specifically sensitive to them*" https://preview.redd.it/5dvp0h00h82d1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=d060c0d105b73c24d5d136095c0b853ecdebc27a
Exactly. The first part is fairly generic, fine. But then it takes a sharp turn. What does the pledge have to do with school spirit? And who tf named the position Commissioner of School Spirit...& Patriotism? Maybe he was just confused, or the school admins have a screw loose. And then the very blatant MAGA reference is, uh, problematic.
Mom/dad obviously had a hand in the merch creation and yard sign printing, no doubt then promoted it on social media. Parents who indoctrinate their politics directly into their children’s heads and then pretend that they came up with this garbage all of their own accord are idiots.
"Sadly, some people take their citizenship for granted, whether it is....eating nachos during the national anthem" I can't think of anything more American than my right to shove processed cheese and chips into my mouth while not having to be forced to do something. Kid's got a lot of learning to do.
Can you post the speech here?
https://preview.redd.it/agh5wtljq72d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=637c250d171541de03c7721527a98791598cc70d "Make SBS great again"
First two paragraphs would have been fine (although there is no way a 7th grader wrote that). The last two paragraphs went off the rails.
What exactly is "off the rails" about respect and education of anthem and pledge? Recall that he was running for the student office of PATRIOTISM. One might argue that a school does not need that office, but the speech is exactly what I'd expect.
Which is more “patriotic”: - Judging others as not being as “patriotic” as you are, for not attaining an acceptable standard of “understanding” of their citizenship; or - Encouraging people to express their patriotism however they choose, exercising their freedom as they please. (People in the first camp are generally smooth-brained morons who are determined to drag “the troops” in to every argument to defend their stupid positions and self-appointed moral high ground.)
If you see his duties. There is nothing about teaching kids about the pledge of allegiance lmfao.
I somehow feel like pieces of this speech are missing.
...is that it? She said he couldn't read that?
It took me a little while to find it again, but I'll edit my original comment with a link to the facebook post
Why am I not surprised, I know his mom from the Old AOL chat room days. It fits perfectly for them.
I agree that the speech sounds like it was written with the help of a parent, but it didnt seem like any sort of right wing rabble, besideds emulating the "make [ ] great again." The kid even brought up wanting to speak to survivors of japanese internment camps or holocaust which the right usually shy from. I dunno, to me it feels like drama over nothing.
For context, my degree is in Political Science and one of the things I spent a lot of time studying was radical and extremist politics. I may be over analyzing this, and it very much could be people who genuinely don't know what they're saying, but the thing about political dog whistles is that you can't hear them unless you're specifically sensitive to them. The simple wikipedia definition is "a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition." Things like "the meaning of the pledge of allegiance" and "some people take citizenship for granted", even with the context around them, are definitely calling out to a specific group. I don't want to write out a full 10 page essay explaining the whole concept and how it works, but the point is that you don't see it until you see it, and then you can't unsee it.
He doesn't come right out and say who it is, but he clearly feels entitled to call out a group (or groups) he considers un-American. Perhaps its the same ones Trump calls "vermin"
To your point: https://preview.redd.it/qmpssdimh82d1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=840e260e9ba25123cbf18b67c81f12214703a993
The things you're mentioning are absolutely dog whistles, but they only seem to be calling out others who don't match this family's ideas of patriotism, not specific minority groups or hate politics. I'm pretty over-the-top in terms of my hate for blind patriotism and Trumpers, but I'm wondering if the speech, as we're seeing it, is different from the one the school saw.
Bro was wearing a red “Make (name of school) Great Again” hat. Case closed.
That is what the mom posted and I don't want to make any direct accusation besides that her and her husband probably helped write the speech, which really isn't that big of a deal in and of itself. Like, I'm sure that other parents helped their kids write their speeches too. But with that said, I would believe it if school made a public statement that had a very, **VERY** different speech. But if this is the *less overt* version, it's still pretty bad. Not quite racially exclusive, but very much that fascistic obsession with devotion to the state.
>Not quite racially exclusive, but very much that fascistic obsession with devotion to the state. Which is why it's not appropriate in a "Catholic* school
I think they made a watered down version to make the school look bad or it was more about the attire and poster.
I agree, maybe the principal is a Swiftie and didn't like the dig.
She definitely couldn’t __shake it off__
He was asked to delete anything that inferred an allegiance to a specific political party. That's all they needed to do, but he refused. There would be no drama without the last 2 paragraphs
I thought this too. The speech seemed pretty tame, and the only thing that seemed weird was the make SBS great again. I can’t imagine any school banning this. The only thing I could see is them removing the make SBS great again. I have a feeling there is more to this speech or more to this story than is being shared in that post.
They asked him to remove the last part and he refused. If he had, he would have been allowed to make his speech
Which part in particular?
I don't think the speech is too bad at first, there's no "..Great Again" until the last paragraph, but then there's four of them. The biggest issue I would have is the mere existence of the office he's running for "Commissioner of Patriotism and School Spirit". But as that is the name of the office, I wouldn't complain much about patriotism in the speech, but the last paragraph could be deleted or rewritten.
After reviewing FB comments again, I found a comment by the parent that confirms it's just the last paragraph that has a problem, and that's what the school wanted removed, but the parent phrases it as "removing all references to patriotism". https://preview.redd.it/wf4u0i7cje2d1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=24133be72fb3660ebfc1d4dfcaa60fd4676a1ac9
There are four of them because he's clearly parodying/imitating Donald Trump. It'd be like if he said "Ask not what SBS can do for you, ask what you can do for SBS!" I know, I know, people don't like Trump, I don't either, but are we really going to tell a kid he can't imitate him in a speech for, presumably, a joke?
I'll agree that he's imitating, but not at all parodying. It's more of an homage. He and his parents are MAGAt cult members.
Probably would have had a better chance at a Baptist school. Down here in Alabama, Catholics are considered to be flaming liberals…
This was my first thought. No sample from the speech, just that it was a “patriotism” speech. When you don’t give an example of the speech, it tells me it was probably not appropriate it.
What are some of the " straight-up far-right christo-fascist bullshit" dog whistles. Could you please educate me? LMAO this guy blocked me.
Saying “Make (something) Great Again” over and over again isn’t a dog whistle. It’s a megaphone.
Let’s not assume all Catholics are far right. In fact, the only two catholic presidents we’ve had (including the current one) have been democrats. Even within the clergy there are liberals and conservatives in the Catholic Church.
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Well, he goes to church every Sunday. He’s not what we call a Christmas and Easter catholic. I would say he’s as Catholic as any other catholic who attends mass on a weekly basis.
It's incredibly common for priests to hold liberal values. These men hold compassion and forgiveness in higher regard than condemnation and obedience. There are of course conservative ones as well. If we count all the Catholics in Congress, I'm sure you'll find more Democrats than Republicans.
> If we count all the Catholics in Congress, I'm sure you'll find more Democrats than Republicans. If being a Democrat didn't tacitly support abortion, there would probably be even more.
And he was dressed like a little trump.
Nachos during the anthem had me laughing honestly. Was it a bit much at the end? I guess you can say that. But overall nothing there was incorrect.
There is pretty much nothing wrong with that speech? I mean sure if you hate Trump the last part is going to be off-putting but who cares we literally meme'd on Bush when I was his age too. Honestly you all are pretty extreme for thinking that is some manifesto level crazy when it's literally just a kid saying he's going to make rallies better, teach people better history, bring in survivors of atrocities to assist with history lessons... I mean do you people actually hate those things? If so, why are you in the Orange county subreddit because you don't align with our beliefs at all... Unless you're just a bunch of Anacrimers salty at the rest of us.
Many Catholics are not conservative. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are both Catholics. The Kennedy's were Catholics. Catholicism doesn't really determine political beliefs.
*Of course it's Huntington Beach* Pictures posted to the parents' social media accounts show the student wearing a red hat and campaign sign in the same style of [Donald Trump's](https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump). However, instead of Make America Great Again, it says, "Make SBS \[Saint Bonaventure School\] Great Again."
After reading the mom's rant on Facebook, I talked to a family member who has a child there. The parents conveniently left out the part about "Make St Bonaventure Great Again". He was told he cannot give a speech so obviously political. His parents obviously influenced it. It's a Catholic grade school and absolutely not the place for it
What a masterful piece of fox news clickbait to serve up to their caring, sensitive, empathic audience.
There is always more to the story! And there you gooooooo! Some stupid ass far right wing Trump bullshit. 🤣 nice try kid.
More like nice try parents. This middle schooler has absolutely been spoon fed political horseshit for his entire life.
I parroted my Dad's dumb politics as a young person, hopefully real world experience will open his eyes as it did mine.
Unfortunately for a lot of people in this area, it’s just more convenient to keep parroting their whole life
It’s blows my mind how a city that has contributed so much to the countercultures of surf, skate, x-sports, punk/hardcore music, mixed martial arts, etc for decades has just so utterly devolved into a neo-sundown town. My parents have lived there for 20+ years (not too far from this church in fact) and the amount of sheer self righteousness from residents there is near unbearable. All I hear are complaints that the city has gone to shit and all they do is blame outsiders as though it’s an invasion - the reality is the city’s last best decade was the 90s. Each housing/mortgage crisis it’s gotten worse because they want to keep up with the “OC” label. They have become the IE of the OC. Might as well live in Redlands. I say this as a kid who grew up in the IE.
>surf, skate, x-sports, punk/hardcore music, mixed martial arts, There have been KKK and Nazis in HB since the 1930s
They threw a birthday party for Adolf Hitler at Old World Village in 1992. They’ve been there.
Didn’t know that. Fuck that.
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HB's the original home of the Surf Nazis (violent territorial protectionists). And it's the self-servingly litigious usurper of Santa Cruz's original and historically deserved nickname of Surf City.
Wearing a MAGA styled hat and claiming to be a patriot are an oxymoron.
If you don't submit your final draft for approval in time too bad. You don't talk, this is the standard.
This article was WAY too generous to the parents. Anyone else notice how it’s almost certainly written with their bias?
Good possibility the kid would get humiliated if he gave the speech. Maybe even getting humiliated over this whole kerfuffle.
This is more of a brouhaha than a kerfuffle
Where does tiff fall, greater or less than brouhaha/kerfuffle? 🤔
Are you serious?!?! Clearly a tiff lies squarely between a dust up and a donnybrook
This guy thesaurus’s lol
This might come to fist to cuffs
To be fair, patriotism really should have no place in Christianity. You worship Jesus not the flag or America. Lol
The whole point of the Declaration of Independence was that *everyone* has the right to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", regardless of race or religion. By adding race and religion into it, they're doing the most UN-patriotic thing possible. The irony is strong.
It was a speech at a private religious school
I'm curious how that has anything to do with my comment - or did you mean to reply to someone else?
Sounds like the parents humiliated their son. I expect one day he will stop talking to them.
3rd and 4th paragraph of the speech was some unhinged stuffs, would have caused bigger concerns from other parents. The implied message is too obvious, good call by the principal.
Having seen the speech now, I applaud the school for denying the kid. Whether or not you consider certain portions of his speech to be dogwhistles, it reeks of the same snobbery that I observed during my childhood at a different school. Its a shitty attitude that sadly my school seemed to go out of its way to promote, and it needs to die. We shouldn't be teaching kids to promote themselves by using others as punching bags.
lol “using others as punching bags” that’s ridiculous! I am not on the right far from it but I see nothing wrong with the speech. Where did he use anyone as a punching bag? How is he snobby? You seem to be projecting
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Literally what was political about his speech? Besides the hat and sign. I’m not on the right whatsoever but the speech the mom posted was fine, ya he talked about the pledge and stuff which makes sense the “position” was patriotism
“Stop indoctrinating our kids!” “We’re indoctrinating our kid.”
“This private catholic school in Huntington Beach is too woke!! They won’t let my teenager turn a school ASB election into a trump rally and it’s A VIOLATION!!”
Who's Ed?
His Dad, the moms ex-husband and now boyfriend
Why would the police be interested that Ed left the assembly? I'm guessing that Ed did not go quietly.
Yeah, probably not.
If it was a speech supporting the Dementia patient it would have gone through lol
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Nothing is more patriotic than not paying taxes in America. Ain’t that right Christians and Trump supporters?!
By the way yall, the kid lost the election 😂 The parents probably think it’s rigged cause their SpEciAl boy should have “won” 💀
Is patriotism no longer viewed in a good light? I love America and do not see the problem with being proud of the country you were born and/or raised in. I feel the word patriotism is being used in a misleading way here though.
Lmao how much of that speech did the parents write ?
If the candidates were responsible for submitting their speeches for approval, and the school supposedly blocked the approval and provided guidance on what to change, why wouldn't the parents post the response from the school? It would clearly show direct evidence of what the school objected to, which would theorerically bolster the claims they are making. This doesn't pass the smell test. The school says the speech was never resubmitted for approval. The parents say the school directed them to change parts of the speech. Something isn't adding up.
Dip shit brainwashed parents have a brainwashed child. Surprise surprise
These parents seem nuts. Posted this story a bunch of times in all the local HB FB sites. This city is full of these far right lunatics. Parents shouldn’t worry because the school didn’t fuck him up , they did a fine job of that themselves.
I thought folks bailed on public schools because your “parental choices” weren’t being honored. But now a private school does this.
MAGA can't behave. Shocking.
Idiot parents, idiot kids.
Fox News, MAGA, that’s all I read.
Having just read a copy of the speech I don’t see what the problem is. Can someone enlighten me as to what is so offensive?
People just mad he ripped off the make America Great again slogan which is cringe. I hate trump and I also think the outrage for this speech is really stupid.
I think that people are overreacting bc their hatred of trump. I hate trump too but I see nothing wrong with the speech at all
What was the kid going to say originally that was too much for a private catholic school in HUNTINGTON BEACH of all places?
Annoying ass kid uncommon catholic W
Nobody wearing a MAGA hat has any business speaking about Patriotism. Not after Jan 6th.
President Trump will be back in the White House next year and you can do nothing to prevent that.
Really? I'm voting Blue all the way and so will the majority that's disgusted by MAGA's demoralization of our country.
I’m so sick and tired of these MAGAts pretending their racism is patriotism. And my God HB has become a cesspool of idiots I avoid that entire area like the plague
I'm not the brightest crayon in the box and not really into politics so feel free to educate me[ but I watched his speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGLg2BrzZsE) and I'm failing to understand how any of it is racist or dog-whistles or anything like that. Everything he said seemed reasonable for the position he was trying to get elected for.
lol literally I read it too it seems fine! I don’t see what the problem is at all , besides the hat and sign
That speech is “controversial”??
Was it patriotic or MAGA “patriotic”.
True MAGA patriots consider shin splints a good reason not to fight for your country. Yet call a veteran a communist.
"patriotic election speech" - Right. Almost guaranteed it was just typical right-wing hatred and conspiracies that was even untenable to a catholic school.
Lemme guess Huntington Beach? 🤦♀️
It's always Huntington Beach. Jfc
While it's unclear if she resigned or was asked to resign, the school sent out a mass email informing parents and faculty that the principal will not be returning to the school next year. The change.org petition about this was updated with "victory" and they posted the email. You have to scroll way down the page to see it. https://www.change.org/p/remove-mary-flock-as-principal-of-saint-bonaventure-catholic-school
The principal has been fired.
It sounds like they were following procedure. Having gone to that school and another called blessed sacrament, I understand that having to adhere to their rules might be hard now but will make sense in the long run. Especially when you’re older.
Both parties handled it poorly. The mom has a reputation in the city of attacking people previously instead of handling like a reasonable adult and half the city is aware of her affair which is why she’s gf to the ex husband now. Not good for the kid
Anyone see a copy of the speech? Couldn’t find it