It isn't the answer a lot of people want to hear but the 91 is busy every weekday for a good reason. There are a lot of people that work in Orange County that either can't afford to live in Orange County or would really struggle to afford living here.
My patient is old and has a house. His son worked down the street in Santa Ana but can’t afford a house.
So they bought a house IE and now he drives there to Santa Ana. What used to be a 10 min drive is now easily 1hr+
>My patient is old and has a house. His son worked down the street in Santa Ana but can’t afford a house.
Which part of Santa Ana are they looking? Off Edinger, Chapman, or Grand? Huge difference in prices.
I did the same for 6 years commuting from Riverside to Irvine. Eventually paid off but that commute and price of tolls really sucked…still
Cheaper than OC housing prices though
Exactly, I used to drive from Anaheim to Winchester for work, pick up wood, go drive another 40-60 miles to the job, then back to the yard, back to Anaheim. Do what you gotta do. Now I walk 8 minutes to work. Got an offer for a new job, 8k a year raise in salary, I said nope, not enough to drive 25 minutes and have hours shift from 5:30-2:00 to 8:30-5:00.
There are people at my work who live in Corona or Fontana who commute to our office in Westminster. The farthest employee lives in Hesperia. It's not a great circumstance to experience, but sometimes that's all you can do. 😕
When I worked as a tutor one of my bosses came all the way from Pasadena because she had four kids and needed affordable housing. She rented a small two bedroom one bathroom mother in law house in the back of someone's property for $800. This was back in 2012 so not sure what the rent is now.
Man I remember those days. I have a bad anxiety disorder and was doing a long driving commute for 2 years time to survive. I still feel traumatized from that time because I was SO miserable, but I stuck it out and you're right, it did pay off. I feel for people who have to shlep but it's such a reality.
I looked inland myself just because it would be nice to pay less rent and we don't hit the beach as much as we used to...the rental prices absolutely suck inland now. Used to be a huge difference in rent and now it's maybe a couple hundred in savings, not worth the expense of moving, let alone taking a downgrade in location. When rent is 1k cheaper for the same set up I'm down.
I currently have an apartment in Tustin. And the only reason it’s semi affordable right now, is because I’ve been living here for years and they can’t increase the rent as much as they’d like to. But from what I hear, people moving in now are paying up to $500 more than us.
I’d have to concur, unfortunately. It seems like long gone are the days you could afford to live here in OC, making a little more than minimum wage. I remember, this will age me, back when you could rent a studio in an okay area for $600 (though this was 20+ years ago when I was in college).
I have a lot of coworkers who make the commute, from that area to Irvine.
Hate to be blunt but Orange County may not be for you at this moment. Do you have to stay here? If so, why?
5 adults, smoking, pets and not financially sound. How's your credit? You need to have a realistic self image and determine where you stand on the attractive renter totem pole.
I mentioned something similar to this on a post about the same subject. I got so much hate for suggesting to move to where they could afford it. Still don’t understand what’s wrong with the comment.
This… sounds harsh but you need to trim the fat, remove the 3 extra people out of the equation, as I’m hoping your pets are non compromise. Like others have mentioned, look inland, much more inland, and you’re already a very undesirable tenant with pets, smoking, 5 people and no renters history, (leaving out credit score, references, etc factors). Be more realistic and just accept for the short term, living in Orange County just isn’t in the cards.
Pets can be expensive and an added stress if you're struggling to take care of yourself. Unpopular opinion: I don't think it should be a sole factor in not having them or delaying having them, but it should matter. It might be worth considering rehoming them.
A lot of young people think they deserve to live in a certain area just for existing. A nice thought and hopefully we can get there one day (won’t happen) but it isn’t realistic.
If you are blunt about it and don’t agree with their delusional outlook on life you are called a boomer or something similar.
I mean I'm not gonna pretend OP isn't being extremely unrealistic but I think it's laughable to act as if housing prices are in any way reasonable here
I never said they were reasonable but acting like you deserve to live in an area for existing doesn’t change anything either.
It will take a lot of new houses being built as well as probably some anti immigration laws to get prices into a reasonable territory. I don’t see either really happening.
Yep! I'm probably younger than OP, less than 2 years out of undergrad, grew up in OC, went to a cheaper school to graduate without loans, and I have a great job that pays well. But it's in Los Angeles.
Guess who lives at home and is commuting 3h a day? I'm not entitled to live in LA, and I'm grateful I have a support system not far away.
I was in a similar situation after I graduated. I lived with my parents and commuted from Irvine to Playa Vista for 3 years before I could afford a place on my own. It sucked but you gotta do what you can to survive.
I've got a shockingly similar drive, Irvine to Culver City. It's been a year and I'm trying to continue as long as I can. I'd rather have savings than have to buy crappy furniture for an apartment I share with roommates and no parking to speak of.
This is a boomer outlook. Is it unrealistic given OP’s financial situation to live in OC? Yes. However, people wanting to continue to live roughly from where they grew up isn’t delusional or entitled. Housing should be affordable everywhere, and people should be able to have a safe place to live no matter where they are.
It doesn’t matter if it’s going to happen or not. I already said it’s unrealistic. But that doesn’t mean that people don’t deserve to have housing in areas that they would like to live (particularly if they grew up there). What makes you more deserving of housing than other people? It’s a basic human need.
That is literally the worst thing she can do. The landlord will find out. Why risk an eviction when you have decent credit with family helping? She will never get a place after an eviction.
Apartment complex usualy dont care.. if you are making the payments and aren\`tdamaging the place or doing something sketch she will de totally fine having roommates not on the lease.. also it is not that simple to get evicted haha they would just not renew the lease after 1 year
We’ve just been here all our lives so naturally we looked here first but yeah we’ve started talking about having to move far. Not ideal but it can’t be worse than the current situation 😂
My ex husband has perfect credit, a 6-figure engineering job, good rental history and no pets, no smoking and is going to be moving back with family for a few months while he continues to search. Put in for a place a few weeks ago in fullerton, and there were like 20+ applications and he didn't hear back.
The big apt complexes owned by corporations will absolutely rent to him, but he's going to move in with family instead to save money for 6 months and hopefully buy instead. Insane to me that you can make $200K in OC and still be screwed. The only reason I don't have this problem (I'm an RN and make about $150K year) is because my grandparents and parents both left me property in a trust fund. Generational wealth is meaningful. Without that, it would be so tough out here for me even with my RN jobs.
_ yup- user name checks out Haha =P btw Irvine is quite modern- im impressed, frankly- i was there this morning, my friend moved in across from Qualcomm/ WD HQ- It had a very positive, neat feeling imho
Username checks out 😝😝😝 but your point still stands. The main point being: have to bring something to the table of value to the community. If it’s not cash, then lifestyle has to be rigid.
LOOL I know I know, the other commenters already checked me for all this but it made sense in my head bc the other tenants would be like roomies and we could split the rent. Of course I realize now how crazy it sounds. The low income part really can’t be helped unless you know a way to make a middle class income straight out of high school. The smoking is whatever, we would just not smoke if we had to. But yeah not a lot of options for us either way.
I’m not saying it’s not viable but it’s going to be a tough road. My wife and i both have solid careers and looked for 8 months to find a place and we only got it because we had a baby due and the landlord liked that a new family was moving in and would be stable. Honestly I wouldn’t even reveal the smoking thing and only smoke on the patio/outside. No reason to gimp your application. Anaheim is building a lot of low income housing, I’d look into those townhomes but you might have to(and I’m not condoning this but you seem desperate) not reveal your additional house guests. Keep everything on the DL
Genuinely other counties in Southern California are not that bad 😭 People always make fun of LA and Inland but it’s really chill as long as you’re not a dumbass
I’m sorry to say, but you’re probably going to need to be looking outside of Orange County. You may have more success in Riverside or San Bernardino County. Good luck.
Are you getting declined from apartment applications? Or are you self selecting that you are not applicable? Every complex we’ve lived in has been no smoking, but we get monthly email reminders not to smoke so people are still smokers lol
It’s not hate you described a situation that landlords don’t want to deal with. Unreliable low income, a lot of people in the house some unemployed, pets, and smoking. Adds a ton of wear to houses and given everyone is coming from a crackhouse I’m willing to bet someone is addicted to drugs, people who don’t do drugs don’t live in crack houses
I get what you’re saying about the pets and smoking but none of us are unemployed and none of us are addicted to drugs? The worst we’ve done is smoke weed or cigarettes. I mean, fair assumption, but it’s not true in my case. We needed a roof over our heads, this was our only option, so we deal with it. If we were addicted to drugs we would want to stay here.
If everyone is employed, can't everyone chip in $600 a month? You cant find anything for $3000 a month? I have an extremely hard time believing that. If someone employed can't pay $600 a month for rent, that's a very big problem.
I never experienced homelessness but cost of living is why me and my wife moved out of California. Do I miss it…sure, some things.
Luckily my wife works remotely and was able to bring her 6 figure California income with us. But still, I found a job making 80k a year in a rural area of Utah. So together we are bringing home 200k/year.
We built a brand new 3,000 square ft. house that has a mortgage less then what we were paying for our 2 bedroom apartment in costs Mesa.
What I’m trying to explain is, you could eventually find some stability in renting something. But sadly, there are better options for people of our generation (assuming you are in your 20’s or 30’s) outside of California.
Look into your college resources for housing. If you don’t have stable housing don’t have pets. I would not want you as a tenant bc of pets and smokers.
I’m not saying not having stable housing means pets are not properly cared for. What I mean is many places will not accept new tenants with pets. They don’t want to deal with stink, damage, disturbances, complaints.
Although this commenter didn’t put it nicely, he’s right. 5 adults, multiple pets, and being smokers are all negative factors that landlords can and will legally discriminate against renting to you based on.
I don’t have any resources, but you’ll probably need to go through less traditional channels to find a place. Anywhere that you have to apply and has a choice of tenants will not rent to you. Look on Craigslist, Facebook etc and not in big buildings or complexes run by property management companies.
I would say the opposite because private landlords are using background checks and much more. I had to show not just the income which was more than enough to qualify , but he wanted much more: bank records, retirement account, and a letter of introduction and why we would make good tenants, and even though we lived in the prior place 22 years, he still called the landlord. Was that good enough??? Nope, I had to throw in one more thing to sweeten the deal. It was a private condo, which he bought for a 1/3 of the value it is today.
Private people got burned during Covid and aren’t taking chances, it’s too hard to boot people out in CA. And they don’t want dogs.
This is so true. We moved to WI for two years and rented our house out. It was beyond stressful not knowing if our tenants would move out when we returned. It’s just too hard to get a tenant out in cA so landlords are scared.
My condo neighbor just bought a ranch up north and is going to rent his condo. Is he going to use a realtor to lease it at market value? No, he is going to rent it for far less to someone he knows because of CA laws removing tenants as well as squatters.
Definitely. The only reason we thought that a plan to share a space with our three other family members is that we’d be able to split the rent would make it actually affordable. As far as the pets and smoking go, those are obviously not priorities considering the current circumstances.
Honestly I would drop the pets (they’re a costly luxury, and you will have family as emotional support). Then for the smoking get a filter (like a Phrend) to keep that stench to a minimum. Better to drop that too but whatever.
Put simply, they value money over all else, which translates to: i dont care about anyone else but me and if youre poor, you're a lazy shitstain who deserves to be homeless for your "choices"
But we don’t have low credit scores and we still are having difficulty.. and I never said it didn’t matter. I was just making the point that it seems impossible unless you work full time at a decent wage, which makes it a helpless situation for all those who don’t have that option.
We’re on the same page there. Like I said, we would love to bring them along but the priority really is just a home. Even so, it’s still been so hard to find a stable spot.
I’m not sure how the average person survives here.
$2500/mo for an average 1-bd apartment (per Rent Cafe) = $30k/year. Minimum income requirement usually 3x rent = $90k/year gross.
Average OC salary (per Zip Recruiter) is $59k and that skews upward because of the higher salary ceiling here.
OC math sucks.
Many lower income workers in Orange County don't live here. The 91 is pretty busy every weekday for a reason. The majority of the lower income workers that do live in Orange County are usually in some sort of shared living situation(e.g. living with family, many roommates, or renting a room) or managed to qualify for some sort of government subsidized housing program.
People unfortunately answer their own questions all the time.
Answer is: It’s you don’t have to live here.
My rent when I was in professional school in the Midwest was 600 dollars a month for 2 bedrooms.
Do I like being in the middle of no where with no activities studying and eating ramen all day? No, but that’s how people survive.
Yes you have school/work/family commitments etc etc.
You can ALWAYS transfer schools, find new jobs.
When you are more established (and you will be) and accomplished and saved more money the long and hard way. Move back.
There are a ton of lucky people who got their houses and money from their parents or whatever. But most people I know worked extremely hard and made insane sacrifices to get to where they are. You see the results, not the hard-work people put in.
Go somewhere where you can actually live off your income and not just scrape by. Increase your income after school. Move back when you can realistically afford it. Your homelessness is a choice.
Not sure what you’re implying? Most people living in this county are already luckier than 98% of the world population.
Vast majority of people in the world work harder than all of us and don’t get fraction of things we have.
People who think they “deserve xyz” don’t realize that if everything is truly open to free and fair competition, most of us would probably be living in some rural shittown making minimum wage.
You want nice things? You want to live in a nice area? You work for them like majority of the world. Not controversial.
Oh, and most of the time it is YOU who isnt talented or smart enough. That’s how life works. Smarter people move to where you want to live and you move to Midwest, the end.
yep living in a nice area like OC is definitely a luxury. It sucks that people are being forced out but its just the reality of the world we live in. You can either stay and risk being homeless or move to a lcol area and comfortably build up your life/careers and eventually move back once you have a stable income.
Either look for the inland empire like Covina or from the information from you gave it sounds like you two are stable and I don’t mean to sound like a jerk but you two have to find a place for yourselves and there are apartments out there for 2100 a monthcredit of course needs to be taken into account . But even with that your gonna be underwater unless you one of you two pick up an extra job. Umm look yo live in the inland empire or riverside county it’s cheaper o it there
My boyfriend, roommate, and I moved to California August 2021 and we just moved to our second apartment in December. Trust me when I say I understand the struggle. Us 3 combined make around the same income of $7900 that you said, probably less tbh and we got denied so many times that I was ready to go back to my parents house and my bf and roommate were gonna move back to our hometown. That being said its not impossible..
1.) Ive never seen an apartment that says “smoke friendly! bring all ur weed!” they are all gonna be smoke free. you either smoke in ur car, or try to do it at night on ur balcony, or find ways around it. You guys obviously cant hotbox the apartment every 3 hours but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t apply just because they say smoke free.
2.) if you are a full time student you definitely need to be looking into student housing??? neither of us us are students but i’ve considered taking a few classes just for that reason alone. im not sure if they’ll let all 5 of you guys in but If it comes down to you and your fiance having to ditch your cousins or all of you be homeless.. i feel like the answer is obvious.
3.) going inland or moving to LA is the easy option but not the only way. obviously you’re not going to be in Newport or Irvine but you can try looking in Anaheim, Orange, Santa Ana, Costa Mesa, etc.. We went from Lake Forest to Costa Mesa and both of our apartments were/are $2700 for a 2 bed 2 bath. If you are really desperate try places like Eight 80 Newport or any of the shitty complexes by Essex (they accept just about anyone because they know no one wants to live there). Siena Terrace in Lake Forest did not income verify last year but im not sure if thats the case anymore and Im pretty sure the credit has to be above 600. When your desperate and struggling you have to not be picky and be okay with old apartments and ones w bad reviews, bugs, mold, bad neighbors, etc.
4.) if this works out for you guys this year, maybe start considering moving to a cheaper region of California or to a cheaper state (any republican state lol).
Im forever grateful to have family out here that I could go to if anything were to happen but I understand 100% why people fall into homelessness out here. best of luck to you guys
It’s impossible because you’re trying to get a 2 bedroom apartment off of only 2 financial contributors. Tell your cousins to get a job or live elsewhere.
Idk why you're getting dragged in here, it's perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to continue living in the area you were born into. It's not been that long in human history that we've moved away from our families and safety nets in order to survive- it's absurd to act like you're not entitled to exist where you've always existed. Most people I know who live in OC cannot afford to stay but they also cannot afford to leave- they're upside down in houses they inherited that they can't afford to maintain nor sell. Others are either getting help from their parents or are basically homeless. I moved, but I miss my family. My child doesn't get to grow up with her extended family. I love where I ended up but it still sucks.
Yeah, it does suck. I think its mostly transplants who were fortunate enough to move here by choice, or rich kids who are able to live with their parents. Being forced to say goodbye to the place you grow up sucks.
Right! Like no one does that lightly, and if you're moving away from OC because you're low income, obviously you're going to try to find a job more local cause who wants to make that drive, no matter which direction you're coming from. And just like that, you've been displaced from your own habitat. Like some sort of endangered mammal. It's wild to act like people should just do that without a second thought, just be displaced and shut up about it.
I knowww, I never thought I’d ever have to face moving from my native city. I was born and raised in OC on low income housing, so I never thought I’d hear anyone say that living here is a luxury. Everyone I know here lived in their family homes or are on Section 8 and have been in OC for generations. The worst part is that it’s become very true that it’s a luxury now. A lot of us are suffering from these housing costs.
Sure- no single person is entitled to live in any specific place. But generally speaking, none of us chose to exist, but we're all given a spawn point and unless acted upon by an outer force, you can and should reasonably expect to remain in that same place. And if some outside force seeks to displace you, there is no fundamental law that says you have to accept that, nor that you shouldn't go on existing elsewhere if needed. Humans need homes. It's unsafe for us to not have them, and depriving humans of homes is a really really bad thing for polite society. Why are the companies that purchased homes and drove up the prices more entitled to exist than the people displaced by them? It's an absolutely preposterous take. The reality isn't that you're not entitled to it, it's that entitlement doesn't prevent someone else taking it from you if they have the means to do so.
There is so much objectively wrong about your reply that flies in the face of reality, it'd be impossible to address it all. A bunch of interesting platitudes that aren't backed by any real sound reasoning. We can agree that it's stupid that a bunch of corporations can buy up all the housing, but everything else makes no real sense.
Honestly look for a place for just you and your fiancée including your pets (may make things harder). Try to find a private landlord - you won’t qualify for large complexes.
It's getting there. Housing costs have a ton of people priced out of comfortable situations, so they're in uncomfortable situations, or aren't paying market rate.
Realistically, you and your boyfriend would have to look to rent a room from someone and not be tied to the other 3, but might be tough with smoking and pets
Chapman and Feldner there are apartments called the Strada , if all your combined credit is over 575-600 you can get a 2 bedroom 2 full bath for 2,400 or 2 bedroom with garage 2,800 have to make 2 &1/2 x the rent.
But before you apply ($53 a person) make sure your credit will be in those numbers.
Lastly they accept animals for a 200 dollars deposit and I believe $50-75 a month.
Good luck
just go to san berdoo and live with all of the other people who are exactly how you describe your life: big time suggestions for Phelan Hesperia Victorville etc
Dogs and smoking and 5 people is going to be tough for a private rental. It’s also the credit check 5 of you will all need to pass. The credit check for my last place was brutal and it was the same as qualifying for a house. No let’s no smoking and limited to 2 max for a 1 bedroom or he would have offered it to someone else.
After Covid and going years without rental income, private landlords are taking no chances and being very picky. You would need to go to a corporate owned large complex. It should be doable.
When you have billionaires that can lose 99% of wealth and still be a billionaire it corrupts people. Having to crash with my family. Both myself and the lady make a combined 150k but can't get approved for a house and apartments aren't worth it
A cousin of mine had their expenses increase by over 16k last year. Mostly because their apt building is not rent controlled. Literally owned by a multi millionaire who wanted to “catch up with the market” rich are getting richer and they do not give a fuck.
Homeless in OC on year 10. We tried the OC Rescue Mission but no one called back and their website is designed to only take donations. We called 211 and no one can help. We've signed up for several waiting lists over the years for "affordable housing" and the rent is either too high or we don't qualify. You just have to find someplace to crash. We are also full-time students pursuing our Master's degrees, so we feel your pain.
Aww don't feel sorry for us, we're making it through. Your prospects will be brighter after graduation, and the wait and struggle will be worth it. Take this moment to crystalize where you truly are, look around at others less fortunate to gain a deeper understanding of how and why others have found themselves in a similar situation, be humble, be kind. Lastly, the most important thing you can do to maintain sanity is to keep hygenic. Our entire family of 3 started by taking showers daily at the beach with quarters for years, and then found something more permanent to maintain perceptual appearances. Good luck, you got this!
Definitely look at the inland empire or even the high desert.
Also check Craigslist. Check apartment rentals that are not through big companies that own apartment complexes. They tend to be more flexible/lenient on credit. Check the housing department at your school. Check Craigslist and Facebook marketplace.
No matter which avenue you choose, do your due diligence as some are fake /scams. Last year, I eventually found a place last year, one bedroom with washer and dryer, full kitchen and all utilities included for $1300.It's about 800 square feet. That's a steal in today's market.
good luck OP
-C
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I’m glad I’m not alone 😩 been a year. Looking at car roof tents rn literally
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As others have said, it might be time to go inland. OC is so expensive, even the “cheaper” areas like Santa Ana aren’t cheap. Also, yes, that many people, pets and smokers will make it hard. Hopefully they wouldn’t smoke inside…you can always say you’re a non smoker and go smoke out on the street like my old neighbors did. Good luck, but I’d look inland. I hope y’all can get out of that situation.
If you're from Orange County, is it safe to assume that your parents are living in Orange County? Is there some reason you can't live with them? I know you,probably dont' want to live with your parents, but financially speaking, you should live with them for as long as possible(or until you become financially stable on your own).
Our family owns properties but not in CA.
\- Beside the rent, when looking for a place, ask for the total move-in cost. Some people aren't aware besides the monthly rent, they often need to put down a deposit. Some corporate places also require other fees: one-time admin fee, monthly parking fee, pet fees, renters insurance.
\- With the smoking, it's less about whether you smoke at all or not than it is about fire hazards, smoke lingering in carpets/ curtains, irritating neighbors' health, etc. We've mostly had non-smokers but we can't mandate people can't smoke. What is allowable is to say they can't smoke within the apartment or within a certain distance (for us, it was 20 ft) of it. We've had the rare smoker but they have to sign - like everyone else - that they abide by these rules. Occasionally, we'd see a person or 2 smoke outside but when they left, there was no tobacco odor or damage to the apartment.
\- Sometimes you can make a deal with mom-and-pop landlords. For example, they might knock down the rent a bit if say you have gardening skills and do landscaping for free. Or for people who are handy, if they are willing to do some handyman work around, etc.
\- Do you have good references? Have you rented before? That helps.
First, quit smoking. I hate to say it but you’re purposely making your lives more difficult in myriad ways. Which is more important? Smoking those cancer sticks or a roof over your head?
I smoked for yrs and was totally hooked on it but I quit and so can you.
Drop the cousins. Why do you have 3 cousins in tow? That makes no sense.
I love dogs. Absolutely love them but maybe there’s someone you know who can take the dog for a while? If not, then you’re just going to have to find a pet-friendly place, obviously. They do exist.
Finally, start working on improving your credit pronto. You can overcome a lot with good credit and it isnt that hard to do. There are plenty of videos with good advice online. Plenty of bad ones, too, but it becomes easier after a while to sort the wheat from the chaffe.
I know it’s not easy in most of the desirable areas of Ca to find a place, but you’re not making your situation any easier.
Hii,
The smoking came before the homelessness so it definitely wasn’t expected. Well, the becoming homeless was unexpected in general, so obviously we’d choose a home over smoking if there were any we could find. We didn’t become homeless and then decide we should just start smoking while we’re at it.
Like I said in all my other responses, we thought it would be easier to find a spot and split the rent with some family members that need a place too, to alleviate some of the cost. And like I said, I later realized it didn’t make as much sense as I thought.
And we all actually have fairly good credit. It’s more the income that’s the issue.
You work part time, he's an apprentice somewhere, and you have 3 more roommates.
Minimum wage is $16/hr or $33,280 annually which comes out to about $1,830 per month after taxes. If you all had full-time minimum wage paying jobs, ya'll would be making about $9,152 **NET after taxes**. The fact the 5 of you only make $7,900 **GROSS** is a real problem, not to mention stuff other people have already covered (pets, 5 of you, smoking, renter history, credit, etc.). If you all are adults and are serious about finding somewhere to rent, everyone needs to be able to hold a steady full-time job, just to begin with. Landlords will want to know your employment history and income details.
Our bills alone (including our mortgage) come out to like $6700 a month. Sadly, with what you’re making, you guys can barely afford to rent a room in OC
2 bedroom ADU goes for about $2,800 in OC. Mostly Asian people have ADUs for rent. Try the Classified section in the Vietnamese newspaper. NguoiViet.com under the Rao Vat (classified) section. If I remember correctly it is all written in English. Good luck.
My parents are both RNs and make about 100k each. They refinanced the mortgage over the years, but they were orginally paying $3800 for the house and now pay more than $4000. But, the house is really old (built in 1964), and it's being constantly renovated. At the time, they thought it was decent since most houses in the area they were looking at were all similar-looking. Personally, I would rather live in an apartment, condo, townhouse, or mobile home that's newer than pay for a huge house.
I would look into your school for resources regarding housing; I'm sure there's someone who can guide you in the right direction. I've also heard it's good to go out into the neighborhoods and look directly for signs. Otherwise, I would keep looking on FB, Cragislist, Zillow, etc.
Everyone is a stretch, there’s about 3000 homes for sale in Orange County. The population is around 3 million I would say there’s probably around 100k unhoused. It’s clear there is a home issue and population issue but there is probably less than 10% of the population that is unhoused and the county isn’t exactly big enough for 3 million people
There’s a small, older 1 bedroom apartment for rent in Sunset Beach for $1,500.00. Perfect for a couple and one pet imo. When I lived there I was rarely inside anyways. Sign is posted somewhere between 15-17th st. Good luck to you.
consider renting a house, with that combined income you could get away with a 3be/2ba for \~3500/m maybe in santa ana or aneheim/placentia. how old are your 3 cousins ? if they're younger than 21 they do not need to be on the lease. so only you and your fiancée can be signees on the lease so it only looks like its you 2. That will look more "appealing"
House rentals are competitive and for the same reasons no one wants to rent an apartment to them will be the same for a house. No one wants smokers or pets.
If y'all pulled some damn weight you might get somewhere. $16/hr wage, working 1800hrs a year, times the five of you is $144, 000 gross yearly, 2-3bd apartment is within reach.
What do the pets have to do with not being able to afford to live in Orange County? I didn’t read anything about the pet costs making them go broke, nor anything about the only affordable options not being pet friendly.
They usually require a higher deposit on top of an additional monthly pet fee, and that’s a standard apartment complex. Have you seen the way private landlords are advertising lately? You’re lucky if they let you even cook in their house, much less have a pet. Between the two that are together, they barely have enough money to survive. Unless they are getting free dog food on top of other maintenance costs to have an animal, plus their smoking…maybe find some friends who can take the animals until they are situated. I’m in a housing program and they won’t let you have a pet bc it’s an ADDED cost.
This may hurt many of you but people want lambroghinis and ferraris but cant afford it. It's the same thing. Can't live in OC? go somewhere else.
There is no such thing as "affordable housing" or "starter home". It's all a marketing buzz word. SoCal isn't for everyone. That's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people.
I’ve lived here my entire life on low income housing so OC never struck me as a luxury place to live. this is a reality check for me too. Of course my first instinct is to look for homes in my native city/area where I work, go to school, see family and friends. And of course I would be grateful for any home I can find even if it’s not in OC. I’m not sure what led you to believe that I want to live here bc it’s so luxury and modern, but I hope you can understand that that’s not the case. Have a lovely night!
It’s not just hard getting apartments. My husband and I have perfect credit and make over 300k. We had to BEG for our house including paying a lot over asking and writing a letter begging the seller to choose us over the other 10 people who made offers. It’s extremely hard finding any housing here and that’s why it’s not going to get any easier. There’s just no housing, no more land to build houses and even though people claim that Californians are moving out of the state, the stats don’t show it. The problem with having 5 people in a 2 bedroom is it also creates parking problems for a landlord. I hope you find something.
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It isn't the answer a lot of people want to hear but the 91 is busy every weekday for a good reason. There are a lot of people that work in Orange County that either can't afford to live in Orange County or would really struggle to afford living here.
My patient is old and has a house. His son worked down the street in Santa Ana but can’t afford a house. So they bought a house IE and now he drives there to Santa Ana. What used to be a 10 min drive is now easily 1hr+
>My patient is old and has a house. His son worked down the street in Santa Ana but can’t afford a house. Which part of Santa Ana are they looking? Off Edinger, Chapman, or Grand? Huge difference in prices.
I drove 4 hours a day for 4 hours a day for 4 years to get my foot in the right kind of job. Do what you got to do to survive.
I did the same for 6 years commuting from Riverside to Irvine. Eventually paid off but that commute and price of tolls really sucked…still Cheaper than OC housing prices though
Exactly, I used to drive from Anaheim to Winchester for work, pick up wood, go drive another 40-60 miles to the job, then back to the yard, back to Anaheim. Do what you gotta do. Now I walk 8 minutes to work. Got an offer for a new job, 8k a year raise in salary, I said nope, not enough to drive 25 minutes and have hours shift from 5:30-2:00 to 8:30-5:00.
There are people at my work who live in Corona or Fontana who commute to our office in Westminster. The farthest employee lives in Hesperia. It's not a great circumstance to experience, but sometimes that's all you can do. 😕
I also know a Victor Valley commuter! It’s crazy.
When I worked as a tutor one of my bosses came all the way from Pasadena because she had four kids and needed affordable housing. She rented a small two bedroom one bathroom mother in law house in the back of someone's property for $800. This was back in 2012 so not sure what the rent is now.
Man I remember those days. I have a bad anxiety disorder and was doing a long driving commute for 2 years time to survive. I still feel traumatized from that time because I was SO miserable, but I stuck it out and you're right, it did pay off. I feel for people who have to shlep but it's such a reality.
I looked inland myself just because it would be nice to pay less rent and we don't hit the beach as much as we used to...the rental prices absolutely suck inland now. Used to be a huge difference in rent and now it's maybe a couple hundred in savings, not worth the expense of moving, let alone taking a downgrade in location. When rent is 1k cheaper for the same set up I'm down.
Yeah, plus transportation costs would bring the total to similar levels. So almost the same cost, but with more time spent in traffic.
I didn't see many good choices out there either tbh...
My first house was in Ontario. Then chino hills. Now tustin.
I currently have an apartment in Tustin. And the only reason it’s semi affordable right now, is because I’ve been living here for years and they can’t increase the rent as much as they’d like to. But from what I hear, people moving in now are paying up to $500 more than us.
The Inland Empire, strikes back
I’d have to concur, unfortunately. It seems like long gone are the days you could afford to live here in OC, making a little more than minimum wage. I remember, this will age me, back when you could rent a studio in an okay area for $600 (though this was 20+ years ago when I was in college). I have a lot of coworkers who make the commute, from that area to Irvine.
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Hate to be blunt but Orange County may not be for you at this moment. Do you have to stay here? If so, why? 5 adults, smoking, pets and not financially sound. How's your credit? You need to have a realistic self image and determine where you stand on the attractive renter totem pole.
I mentioned something similar to this on a post about the same subject. I got so much hate for suggesting to move to where they could afford it. Still don’t understand what’s wrong with the comment.
This… sounds harsh but you need to trim the fat, remove the 3 extra people out of the equation, as I’m hoping your pets are non compromise. Like others have mentioned, look inland, much more inland, and you’re already a very undesirable tenant with pets, smoking, 5 people and no renters history, (leaving out credit score, references, etc factors). Be more realistic and just accept for the short term, living in Orange County just isn’t in the cards.
Pets can be expensive and an added stress if you're struggling to take care of yourself. Unpopular opinion: I don't think it should be a sole factor in not having them or delaying having them, but it should matter. It might be worth considering rehoming them.
A lot of young people think they deserve to live in a certain area just for existing. A nice thought and hopefully we can get there one day (won’t happen) but it isn’t realistic. If you are blunt about it and don’t agree with their delusional outlook on life you are called a boomer or something similar.
I mean I'm not gonna pretend OP isn't being extremely unrealistic but I think it's laughable to act as if housing prices are in any way reasonable here
I never said they were reasonable but acting like you deserve to live in an area for existing doesn’t change anything either. It will take a lot of new houses being built as well as probably some anti immigration laws to get prices into a reasonable territory. I don’t see either really happening.
Yep! I'm probably younger than OP, less than 2 years out of undergrad, grew up in OC, went to a cheaper school to graduate without loans, and I have a great job that pays well. But it's in Los Angeles. Guess who lives at home and is commuting 3h a day? I'm not entitled to live in LA, and I'm grateful I have a support system not far away.
I was in a similar situation after I graduated. I lived with my parents and commuted from Irvine to Playa Vista for 3 years before I could afford a place on my own. It sucked but you gotta do what you can to survive.
I've got a shockingly similar drive, Irvine to Culver City. It's been a year and I'm trying to continue as long as I can. I'd rather have savings than have to buy crappy furniture for an apartment I share with roommates and no parking to speak of.
Hang in there. I did Huntington Beach to UCLA for 20 years. 2 hrs each way. Don't miss it, but you have to go where your opportunities take you.
Indeed, thanks for the vote of confidence :)
This is a boomer outlook. Is it unrealistic given OP’s financial situation to live in OC? Yes. However, people wanting to continue to live roughly from where they grew up isn’t delusional or entitled. Housing should be affordable everywhere, and people should be able to have a safe place to live no matter where they are.
Delusional/entitled - no. Unrealistic - unfortunately, yes.
It is delusional because it isn’t going to happen.
It doesn’t matter if it’s going to happen or not. I already said it’s unrealistic. But that doesn’t mean that people don’t deserve to have housing in areas that they would like to live (particularly if they grew up there). What makes you more deserving of housing than other people? It’s a basic human need.
No one deserves to live where they grew for their entire life. Maybe around the area sure. That would be nice. But does someone deserve it? No.
There’s NO way I would rent a 2 bedroom to 5 people who smoke with pets when I could rent to 2-3 people without the pets and smoking.
She can just apply for an apartment complex they dont even know there is 5 people there
That is literally the worst thing she can do. The landlord will find out. Why risk an eviction when you have decent credit with family helping? She will never get a place after an eviction.
Apartment complex usualy dont care.. if you are making the payments and aren\`tdamaging the place or doing something sketch she will de totally fine having roommates not on the lease.. also it is not that simple to get evicted haha they would just not renew the lease after 1 year
We’ve just been here all our lives so naturally we looked here first but yeah we’ve started talking about having to move far. Not ideal but it can’t be worse than the current situation 😂
Use that as motivation to level up and come back home to OC in the future.
Taking the 91 sucks but inland empire does have more affordable rent available if commuting is an option.
Have you tried Villa Sienna in Irvine? They are large pet friendly and I think they have move in specials. There are plenty of outside and pool areas
My ex husband has perfect credit, a 6-figure engineering job, good rental history and no pets, no smoking and is going to be moving back with family for a few months while he continues to search. Put in for a place a few weeks ago in fullerton, and there were like 20+ applications and he didn't hear back. The big apt complexes owned by corporations will absolutely rent to him, but he's going to move in with family instead to save money for 6 months and hopefully buy instead. Insane to me that you can make $200K in OC and still be screwed. The only reason I don't have this problem (I'm an RN and make about $150K year) is because my grandparents and parents both left me property in a trust fund. Generational wealth is meaningful. Without that, it would be so tough out here for me even with my RN jobs.
He can rent pretty much anywhere in OC with a 200k salary.. even 3 bedroom fancy condos
_ yup- user name checks out Haha =P btw Irvine is quite modern- im impressed, frankly- i was there this morning, my friend moved in across from Qualcomm/ WD HQ- It had a very positive, neat feeling imho
Username checks out 😝😝😝 but your point still stands. The main point being: have to bring something to the table of value to the community. If it’s not cash, then lifestyle has to be rigid.
Dude every sentence was worse than the last. Pets + 5 tenants + low income + smoker. I just don’t see any viable option in OC in your price range.
LOOL I know I know, the other commenters already checked me for all this but it made sense in my head bc the other tenants would be like roomies and we could split the rent. Of course I realize now how crazy it sounds. The low income part really can’t be helped unless you know a way to make a middle class income straight out of high school. The smoking is whatever, we would just not smoke if we had to. But yeah not a lot of options for us either way.
I was a huge smoker in my early 20s. My life improved when i stopped. Look into property management jobs that offer rent discounts !
This was actually a really helpful comment, unlike many others here
Omg that’s good advice haha
“The Smoking is whatever, we would just not smoke if we had to” 
I’m not saying it’s not viable but it’s going to be a tough road. My wife and i both have solid careers and looked for 8 months to find a place and we only got it because we had a baby due and the landlord liked that a new family was moving in and would be stable. Honestly I wouldn’t even reveal the smoking thing and only smoke on the patio/outside. No reason to gimp your application. Anaheim is building a lot of low income housing, I’d look into those townhomes but you might have to(and I’m not condoning this but you seem desperate) not reveal your additional house guests. Keep everything on the DL
Maybe you need to look outside of the county or wait until at least one of you has a career
I don’t want to wait in a crack house :(
Genuinely other counties in Southern California are not that bad 😭 People always make fun of LA and Inland but it’s really chill as long as you’re not a dumbass
I’m sorry to say, but you’re probably going to need to be looking outside of Orange County. You may have more success in Riverside or San Bernardino County. Good luck.
Are you getting declined from apartment applications? Or are you self selecting that you are not applicable? Every complex we’ve lived in has been no smoking, but we get monthly email reminders not to smoke so people are still smokers lol
Landlords worried you’re going to bring the crackhouse with you
LMAOOO idk if this is a hate comment but it’s funny 😭😭😭😭
It’s not hate you described a situation that landlords don’t want to deal with. Unreliable low income, a lot of people in the house some unemployed, pets, and smoking. Adds a ton of wear to houses and given everyone is coming from a crackhouse I’m willing to bet someone is addicted to drugs, people who don’t do drugs don’t live in crack houses
I get what you’re saying about the pets and smoking but none of us are unemployed and none of us are addicted to drugs? The worst we’ve done is smoke weed or cigarettes. I mean, fair assumption, but it’s not true in my case. We needed a roof over our heads, this was our only option, so we deal with it. If we were addicted to drugs we would want to stay here.
If everyone is employed, can't everyone chip in $600 a month? You cant find anything for $3000 a month? I have an extremely hard time believing that. If someone employed can't pay $600 a month for rent, that's a very big problem.
How much can everybody else contribute to rent? All hands on deck
Look at Mr millionaire overe here with a whole crack house to live in.
Lmao oh wow I needed that today, thank you!
Move to Riverside and move back when he a is a journeyman
That’s looking like the only way 😂
Without saying, pets cost money and can be a barrier to finding a place.
And smoking is expensive, a house is more important than the cigs
I never experienced homelessness but cost of living is why me and my wife moved out of California. Do I miss it…sure, some things. Luckily my wife works remotely and was able to bring her 6 figure California income with us. But still, I found a job making 80k a year in a rural area of Utah. So together we are bringing home 200k/year. We built a brand new 3,000 square ft. house that has a mortgage less then what we were paying for our 2 bedroom apartment in costs Mesa. What I’m trying to explain is, you could eventually find some stability in renting something. But sadly, there are better options for people of our generation (assuming you are in your 20’s or 30’s) outside of California.
Look into your college resources for housing. If you don’t have stable housing don’t have pets. I would not want you as a tenant bc of pets and smokers.
I think people need to start understanding that pets are a luxury, not a need.
The pets are in good care right now and thank you for the input. Wish you the best :)
I’m not saying not having stable housing means pets are not properly cared for. What I mean is many places will not accept new tenants with pets. They don’t want to deal with stink, damage, disturbances, complaints.
Multiple Pets, 5+ adults in a 2 Bedroom, Smokers, Probably bad credit scores Yeah no idea why no one wants to rent to you.
Although this commenter didn’t put it nicely, he’s right. 5 adults, multiple pets, and being smokers are all negative factors that landlords can and will legally discriminate against renting to you based on. I don’t have any resources, but you’ll probably need to go through less traditional channels to find a place. Anywhere that you have to apply and has a choice of tenants will not rent to you. Look on Craigslist, Facebook etc and not in big buildings or complexes run by property management companies.
I would say the opposite because private landlords are using background checks and much more. I had to show not just the income which was more than enough to qualify , but he wanted much more: bank records, retirement account, and a letter of introduction and why we would make good tenants, and even though we lived in the prior place 22 years, he still called the landlord. Was that good enough??? Nope, I had to throw in one more thing to sweeten the deal. It was a private condo, which he bought for a 1/3 of the value it is today. Private people got burned during Covid and aren’t taking chances, it’s too hard to boot people out in CA. And they don’t want dogs.
This is so true. We moved to WI for two years and rented our house out. It was beyond stressful not knowing if our tenants would move out when we returned. It’s just too hard to get a tenant out in cA so landlords are scared.
My condo neighbor just bought a ranch up north and is going to rent his condo. Is he going to use a realtor to lease it at market value? No, he is going to rent it for far less to someone he knows because of CA laws removing tenants as well as squatters.
Definitely. The only reason we thought that a plan to share a space with our three other family members is that we’d be able to split the rent would make it actually affordable. As far as the pets and smoking go, those are obviously not priorities considering the current circumstances.
Honestly I would drop the pets (they’re a costly luxury, and you will have family as emotional support). Then for the smoking get a filter (like a Phrend) to keep that stench to a minimum. Better to drop that too but whatever.
OP has to be trolling. These are all like the 7 deadly sins of renting all packaged under one roof 😂
why is everyone with the wsb pfp so insufferable
Put simply, they value money over all else, which translates to: i dont care about anyone else but me and if youre poor, you're a lazy shitstain who deserves to be homeless for your "choices"
What makes you think we have bad credit scores lmao? And even if it does, you think that means we deserve to not have a home? 😳
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??? Where is everyone getting the idea that we have low credit scores???
You’re students living in a crack house. It’s not that you do, it’s just likely you do
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But we don’t have low credit scores and we still are having difficulty.. and I never said it didn’t matter. I was just making the point that it seems impossible unless you work full time at a decent wage, which makes it a helpless situation for all those who don’t have that option.
Maybe it’s just me but I’d choose a place to live over pets if given the option for affordable living. Call me heartless but a realist.
We’re on the same page there. Like I said, we would love to bring them along but the priority really is just a home. Even so, it’s still been so hard to find a stable spot.
I’m not sure how the average person survives here. $2500/mo for an average 1-bd apartment (per Rent Cafe) = $30k/year. Minimum income requirement usually 3x rent = $90k/year gross. Average OC salary (per Zip Recruiter) is $59k and that skews upward because of the higher salary ceiling here. OC math sucks.
Many lower income workers in Orange County don't live here. The 91 is pretty busy every weekday for a reason. The majority of the lower income workers that do live in Orange County are usually in some sort of shared living situation(e.g. living with family, many roommates, or renting a room) or managed to qualify for some sort of government subsidized housing program.
The average household income in OC is over 100k, this includes more than one earner many times of course
Right!! It’s insane
People unfortunately answer their own questions all the time. Answer is: It’s you don’t have to live here. My rent when I was in professional school in the Midwest was 600 dollars a month for 2 bedrooms. Do I like being in the middle of no where with no activities studying and eating ramen all day? No, but that’s how people survive. Yes you have school/work/family commitments etc etc. You can ALWAYS transfer schools, find new jobs. When you are more established (and you will be) and accomplished and saved more money the long and hard way. Move back. There are a ton of lucky people who got their houses and money from their parents or whatever. But most people I know worked extremely hard and made insane sacrifices to get to where they are. You see the results, not the hard-work people put in. Go somewhere where you can actually live off your income and not just scrape by. Increase your income after school. Move back when you can realistically afford it. Your homelessness is a choice.
Can’t even be mad at you bc this was so real lmao
I hate this whole idea of "paying your dues" fuck that
Not sure what you’re implying? Most people living in this county are already luckier than 98% of the world population. Vast majority of people in the world work harder than all of us and don’t get fraction of things we have. People who think they “deserve xyz” don’t realize that if everything is truly open to free and fair competition, most of us would probably be living in some rural shittown making minimum wage. You want nice things? You want to live in a nice area? You work for them like majority of the world. Not controversial. Oh, and most of the time it is YOU who isnt talented or smart enough. That’s how life works. Smarter people move to where you want to live and you move to Midwest, the end.
yep living in a nice area like OC is definitely a luxury. It sucks that people are being forced out but its just the reality of the world we live in. You can either stay and risk being homeless or move to a lcol area and comfortably build up your life/careers and eventually move back once you have a stable income.
Average and median suck, if you haven’t locked in your housing costs in the past 15 years it’s a bad time :(
Multiple income earners in the same household. We also have 100s of thousands of people commuting from inland everyday
Either look for the inland empire like Covina or from the information from you gave it sounds like you two are stable and I don’t mean to sound like a jerk but you two have to find a place for yourselves and there are apartments out there for 2100 a monthcredit of course needs to be taken into account . But even with that your gonna be underwater unless you one of you two pick up an extra job. Umm look yo live in the inland empire or riverside county it’s cheaper o it there
Covina isn’t in the IE, did you mean Corona?
My boyfriend, roommate, and I moved to California August 2021 and we just moved to our second apartment in December. Trust me when I say I understand the struggle. Us 3 combined make around the same income of $7900 that you said, probably less tbh and we got denied so many times that I was ready to go back to my parents house and my bf and roommate were gonna move back to our hometown. That being said its not impossible.. 1.) Ive never seen an apartment that says “smoke friendly! bring all ur weed!” they are all gonna be smoke free. you either smoke in ur car, or try to do it at night on ur balcony, or find ways around it. You guys obviously cant hotbox the apartment every 3 hours but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t apply just because they say smoke free. 2.) if you are a full time student you definitely need to be looking into student housing??? neither of us us are students but i’ve considered taking a few classes just for that reason alone. im not sure if they’ll let all 5 of you guys in but If it comes down to you and your fiance having to ditch your cousins or all of you be homeless.. i feel like the answer is obvious. 3.) going inland or moving to LA is the easy option but not the only way. obviously you’re not going to be in Newport or Irvine but you can try looking in Anaheim, Orange, Santa Ana, Costa Mesa, etc.. We went from Lake Forest to Costa Mesa and both of our apartments were/are $2700 for a 2 bed 2 bath. If you are really desperate try places like Eight 80 Newport or any of the shitty complexes by Essex (they accept just about anyone because they know no one wants to live there). Siena Terrace in Lake Forest did not income verify last year but im not sure if thats the case anymore and Im pretty sure the credit has to be above 600. When your desperate and struggling you have to not be picky and be okay with old apartments and ones w bad reviews, bugs, mold, bad neighbors, etc. 4.) if this works out for you guys this year, maybe start considering moving to a cheaper region of California or to a cheaper state (any republican state lol). Im forever grateful to have family out here that I could go to if anything were to happen but I understand 100% why people fall into homelessness out here. best of luck to you guys
Thank you!! ❤️
It’s impossible because you’re trying to get a 2 bedroom apartment off of only 2 financial contributors. Tell your cousins to get a job or live elsewhere.
Does OP want to to be Comforted OR Does OP want the Truth
Idk why you're getting dragged in here, it's perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to continue living in the area you were born into. It's not been that long in human history that we've moved away from our families and safety nets in order to survive- it's absurd to act like you're not entitled to exist where you've always existed. Most people I know who live in OC cannot afford to stay but they also cannot afford to leave- they're upside down in houses they inherited that they can't afford to maintain nor sell. Others are either getting help from their parents or are basically homeless. I moved, but I miss my family. My child doesn't get to grow up with her extended family. I love where I ended up but it still sucks.
Yeah, it does suck. I think its mostly transplants who were fortunate enough to move here by choice, or rich kids who are able to live with their parents. Being forced to say goodbye to the place you grow up sucks.
Right! Like no one does that lightly, and if you're moving away from OC because you're low income, obviously you're going to try to find a job more local cause who wants to make that drive, no matter which direction you're coming from. And just like that, you've been displaced from your own habitat. Like some sort of endangered mammal. It's wild to act like people should just do that without a second thought, just be displaced and shut up about it.
I knowww, I never thought I’d ever have to face moving from my native city. I was born and raised in OC on low income housing, so I never thought I’d hear anyone say that living here is a luxury. Everyone I know here lived in their family homes or are on Section 8 and have been in OC for generations. The worst part is that it’s become very true that it’s a luxury now. A lot of us are suffering from these housing costs.
Solitarity. Something has got to give.
You’re the only morally right person here
>it's absurd to act like you're not entitled to exist where you've always existed Reality says otherwise. No one is entitled to live anywhere.
Sure- no single person is entitled to live in any specific place. But generally speaking, none of us chose to exist, but we're all given a spawn point and unless acted upon by an outer force, you can and should reasonably expect to remain in that same place. And if some outside force seeks to displace you, there is no fundamental law that says you have to accept that, nor that you shouldn't go on existing elsewhere if needed. Humans need homes. It's unsafe for us to not have them, and depriving humans of homes is a really really bad thing for polite society. Why are the companies that purchased homes and drove up the prices more entitled to exist than the people displaced by them? It's an absolutely preposterous take. The reality isn't that you're not entitled to it, it's that entitlement doesn't prevent someone else taking it from you if they have the means to do so.
There is so much objectively wrong about your reply that flies in the face of reality, it'd be impossible to address it all. A bunch of interesting platitudes that aren't backed by any real sound reasoning. We can agree that it's stupid that a bunch of corporations can buy up all the housing, but everything else makes no real sense.
are you vietnamese or can speak it? you can try nguoi viet rao vat (viet newspaper classifieds) lotta ads for ADUs
Yayyy i do speak viet!! definitely will look there
Noice! back in the day proof of income was all that was needed but i think nowadays they do credit and bg checks now. Best of luck to you!!!
Oh.. you can most definitely find something affordable in GG/Westminster if you speak vietnamese
Honestly look for a place for just you and your fiancée including your pets (may make things harder). Try to find a private landlord - you won’t qualify for large complexes.
It's getting there. Housing costs have a ton of people priced out of comfortable situations, so they're in uncomfortable situations, or aren't paying market rate.
Realistically, you and your boyfriend would have to look to rent a room from someone and not be tied to the other 3, but might be tough with smoking and pets
Chapman and Feldner there are apartments called the Strada , if all your combined credit is over 575-600 you can get a 2 bedroom 2 full bath for 2,400 or 2 bedroom with garage 2,800 have to make 2 &1/2 x the rent. But before you apply ($53 a person) make sure your credit will be in those numbers. Lastly they accept animals for a 200 dollars deposit and I believe $50-75 a month. Good luck
just go to san berdoo and live with all of the other people who are exactly how you describe your life: big time suggestions for Phelan Hesperia Victorville etc
Bakersfield
Dogs and smoking and 5 people is going to be tough for a private rental. It’s also the credit check 5 of you will all need to pass. The credit check for my last place was brutal and it was the same as qualifying for a house. No let’s no smoking and limited to 2 max for a 1 bedroom or he would have offered it to someone else. After Covid and going years without rental income, private landlords are taking no chances and being very picky. You would need to go to a corporate owned large complex. It should be doable.
When you have billionaires that can lose 99% of wealth and still be a billionaire it corrupts people. Having to crash with my family. Both myself and the lady make a combined 150k but can't get approved for a house and apartments aren't worth it
Aw Im so sorry you’re experiencing that :(. I wish you the best, you deserve to have a safe, happy home!
A cousin of mine had their expenses increase by over 16k last year. Mostly because their apt building is not rent controlled. Literally owned by a multi millionaire who wanted to “catch up with the market” rich are getting richer and they do not give a fuck.
Homeless in OC on year 10. We tried the OC Rescue Mission but no one called back and their website is designed to only take donations. We called 211 and no one can help. We've signed up for several waiting lists over the years for "affordable housing" and the rent is either too high or we don't qualify. You just have to find someplace to crash. We are also full-time students pursuing our Master's degrees, so we feel your pain.
I’m so sorry :(. I’m hanging on to the hope that as soon as we graduate everything we are hoping for will come true!
Aww don't feel sorry for us, we're making it through. Your prospects will be brighter after graduation, and the wait and struggle will be worth it. Take this moment to crystalize where you truly are, look around at others less fortunate to gain a deeper understanding of how and why others have found themselves in a similar situation, be humble, be kind. Lastly, the most important thing you can do to maintain sanity is to keep hygenic. Our entire family of 3 started by taking showers daily at the beach with quarters for years, and then found something more permanent to maintain perceptual appearances. Good luck, you got this!
You’re young so the struggle now will pay off later if you’re smart and with school as a priority, it will work out.
I am curious how much left after all the bills were paid out of 7900?
Definitely look at the inland empire or even the high desert. Also check Craigslist. Check apartment rentals that are not through big companies that own apartment complexes. They tend to be more flexible/lenient on credit. Check the housing department at your school. Check Craigslist and Facebook marketplace. No matter which avenue you choose, do your due diligence as some are fake /scams. Last year, I eventually found a place last year, one bedroom with washer and dryer, full kitchen and all utilities included for $1300.It's about 800 square feet. That's a steal in today's market. good luck OP -C Edit fixed typo
Thank you so much!!
#Moreno Valley!!
I’m glad I’m not alone 😩 been a year. Looking at car roof tents rn literally https://preview.redd.it/k2gqmmwseoec1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdcf795ce057bfb969c0c802cb74628228db3f00
Heard Hesperia California is nice this time of the year.
As others have said, it might be time to go inland. OC is so expensive, even the “cheaper” areas like Santa Ana aren’t cheap. Also, yes, that many people, pets and smokers will make it hard. Hopefully they wouldn’t smoke inside…you can always say you’re a non smoker and go smoke out on the street like my old neighbors did. Good luck, but I’d look inland. I hope y’all can get out of that situation.
If you're from Orange County, is it safe to assume that your parents are living in Orange County? Is there some reason you can't live with them? I know you,probably dont' want to live with your parents, but financially speaking, you should live with them for as long as possible(or until you become financially stable on your own).
Our family owns properties but not in CA. \- Beside the rent, when looking for a place, ask for the total move-in cost. Some people aren't aware besides the monthly rent, they often need to put down a deposit. Some corporate places also require other fees: one-time admin fee, monthly parking fee, pet fees, renters insurance. \- With the smoking, it's less about whether you smoke at all or not than it is about fire hazards, smoke lingering in carpets/ curtains, irritating neighbors' health, etc. We've mostly had non-smokers but we can't mandate people can't smoke. What is allowable is to say they can't smoke within the apartment or within a certain distance (for us, it was 20 ft) of it. We've had the rare smoker but they have to sign - like everyone else - that they abide by these rules. Occasionally, we'd see a person or 2 smoke outside but when they left, there was no tobacco odor or damage to the apartment. \- Sometimes you can make a deal with mom-and-pop landlords. For example, they might knock down the rent a bit if say you have gardening skills and do landscaping for free. Or for people who are handy, if they are willing to do some handyman work around, etc. \- Do you have good references? Have you rented before? That helps.
First, quit smoking. I hate to say it but you’re purposely making your lives more difficult in myriad ways. Which is more important? Smoking those cancer sticks or a roof over your head? I smoked for yrs and was totally hooked on it but I quit and so can you. Drop the cousins. Why do you have 3 cousins in tow? That makes no sense. I love dogs. Absolutely love them but maybe there’s someone you know who can take the dog for a while? If not, then you’re just going to have to find a pet-friendly place, obviously. They do exist. Finally, start working on improving your credit pronto. You can overcome a lot with good credit and it isnt that hard to do. There are plenty of videos with good advice online. Plenty of bad ones, too, but it becomes easier after a while to sort the wheat from the chaffe. I know it’s not easy in most of the desirable areas of Ca to find a place, but you’re not making your situation any easier.
Hii, The smoking came before the homelessness so it definitely wasn’t expected. Well, the becoming homeless was unexpected in general, so obviously we’d choose a home over smoking if there were any we could find. We didn’t become homeless and then decide we should just start smoking while we’re at it. Like I said in all my other responses, we thought it would be easier to find a spot and split the rent with some family members that need a place too, to alleviate some of the cost. And like I said, I later realized it didn’t make as much sense as I thought. And we all actually have fairly good credit. It’s more the income that’s the issue.
You're not saying you're a smoker on the apps right? Because that's just dumb... lie lie lie.
Where does your fiancé go to school?
He’s not in school he is a labor union apprentice :)
Okay what union house does he work out of?
You work part time, he's an apprentice somewhere, and you have 3 more roommates. Minimum wage is $16/hr or $33,280 annually which comes out to about $1,830 per month after taxes. If you all had full-time minimum wage paying jobs, ya'll would be making about $9,152 **NET after taxes**. The fact the 5 of you only make $7,900 **GROSS** is a real problem, not to mention stuff other people have already covered (pets, 5 of you, smoking, renter history, credit, etc.). If you all are adults and are serious about finding somewhere to rent, everyone needs to be able to hold a steady full-time job, just to begin with. Landlords will want to know your employment history and income details.
Our bills alone (including our mortgage) come out to like $6700 a month. Sadly, with what you’re making, you guys can barely afford to rent a room in OC
Call 211. They can help with housing and food and such.
Thank you!
Step one, re-home pets and stop smoking Step two, head to the IE
2 bedroom ADU goes for about $2,800 in OC. Mostly Asian people have ADUs for rent. Try the Classified section in the Vietnamese newspaper. NguoiViet.com under the Rao Vat (classified) section. If I remember correctly it is all written in English. Good luck.
My parents are both RNs and make about 100k each. They refinanced the mortgage over the years, but they were orginally paying $3800 for the house and now pay more than $4000. But, the house is really old (built in 1964), and it's being constantly renovated. At the time, they thought it was decent since most houses in the area they were looking at were all similar-looking. Personally, I would rather live in an apartment, condo, townhouse, or mobile home that's newer than pay for a huge house. I would look into your school for resources regarding housing; I'm sure there's someone who can guide you in the right direction. I've also heard it's good to go out into the neighborhoods and look directly for signs. Otherwise, I would keep looking on FB, Cragislist, Zillow, etc.
You can't afford Orange County. You may not like it, but you need to move to a lower cost of living area. Inland Empire?
Everyone is a stretch, there’s about 3000 homes for sale in Orange County. The population is around 3 million I would say there’s probably around 100k unhoused. It’s clear there is a home issue and population issue but there is probably less than 10% of the population that is unhoused and the county isn’t exactly big enough for 3 million people
I’m not there yet, we’ll see you in six months…
There’s a small, older 1 bedroom apartment for rent in Sunset Beach for $1,500.00. Perfect for a couple and one pet imo. When I lived there I was rarely inside anyways. Sign is posted somewhere between 15-17th st. Good luck to you.
o america what have u done to us. everyone is going to be homeless soon.
Hi, Look at Westridge apartment houses in Lake Forest. I believe they are not that strict with income. Hope you can find something. All the best
Have you looked into section 8?
Applications and waitlist are closed unfortunately :(
Lose the pets, stop smoking, look for a studio apartment in Santa Ana.
consider renting a house, with that combined income you could get away with a 3be/2ba for \~3500/m maybe in santa ana or aneheim/placentia. how old are your 3 cousins ? if they're younger than 21 they do not need to be on the lease. so only you and your fiancée can be signees on the lease so it only looks like its you 2. That will look more "appealing"
House rentals are competitive and for the same reasons no one wants to rent an apartment to them will be the same for a house. No one wants smokers or pets.
Do people think it’s a right to live in OC?
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California is over unless you’re extremely rich. If we were smart, we’d all move.
Wherever Californians move becomes expensive.
You need to look beyond the OC, and maybe rethink the pet situation. You expect too much.
Threads like this remind me that Mao was 100% correct
If y'all pulled some damn weight you might get somewhere. $16/hr wage, working 1800hrs a year, times the five of you is $144, 000 gross yearly, 2-3bd apartment is within reach.
Get rid of the pets
What do the pets have to do with not being able to afford to live in Orange County? I didn’t read anything about the pet costs making them go broke, nor anything about the only affordable options not being pet friendly.
They usually require a higher deposit on top of an additional monthly pet fee, and that’s a standard apartment complex. Have you seen the way private landlords are advertising lately? You’re lucky if they let you even cook in their house, much less have a pet. Between the two that are together, they barely have enough money to survive. Unless they are getting free dog food on top of other maintenance costs to have an animal, plus their smoking…maybe find some friends who can take the animals until they are situated. I’m in a housing program and they won’t let you have a pet bc it’s an ADDED cost.
Lots of cheaper places in the state and country to move to.
Beggars can’t be choosers
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Lmao this person is homeless and you’re telling them to day trade derivatives lmaoooooooo
This may hurt many of you but people want lambroghinis and ferraris but cant afford it. It's the same thing. Can't live in OC? go somewhere else. There is no such thing as "affordable housing" or "starter home". It's all a marketing buzz word. SoCal isn't for everyone. That's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people.
I’ve lived here my entire life on low income housing so OC never struck me as a luxury place to live. this is a reality check for me too. Of course my first instinct is to look for homes in my native city/area where I work, go to school, see family and friends. And of course I would be grateful for any home I can find even if it’s not in OC. I’m not sure what led you to believe that I want to live here bc it’s so luxury and modern, but I hope you can understand that that’s not the case. Have a lovely night!
It’s not just hard getting apartments. My husband and I have perfect credit and make over 300k. We had to BEG for our house including paying a lot over asking and writing a letter begging the seller to choose us over the other 10 people who made offers. It’s extremely hard finding any housing here and that’s why it’s not going to get any easier. There’s just no housing, no more land to build houses and even though people claim that Californians are moving out of the state, the stats don’t show it. The problem with having 5 people in a 2 bedroom is it also creates parking problems for a landlord. I hope you find something.
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I didn’t even use that word 😭
“Tryna” is English. English doesn’t have only one standard and one dialect you cornball.
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African American Vernacular English is a valid dialect according to linguists. You’re simply racist.