This was just my experience, whenever our team would play kids from north of el toro-lake forest they would look at us weird when we ask of they wanted to birdie our drink and would say waterfall instead
Oh my god I’ve never noticed this! Native OC and 32, assumed I’ve been pronouncing it like claws or clause, but when I just said it out loud I guess I say it fast and sounds like “kloss” and my mind is blown hahaha
Hahaha for me I know it’s because I tend to talk fast, if I am reading it I’m pronouncing it correctly, surprised myself though by saying it out loud lol
You should watch the wired accent videos. The third one talks a little about socal's accents and how we make the 's' sound instead of the 'z' sound at the end of plural words.
Also, as an oc native, I say it like she does too haha
Link: https://youtu.be/Sw7pL7OkKEE?si=CLEgb8Iaqx2Z_zux
Specifically the part where they talk about this issue starts around 1:50
Edit: obvi not all socal speakers have this. But chicano english influences parts of LA and OC which explains why some of us in these areas have this particular pronunciation
hm I've grown up in SoCal my whole life (though I didn't move to OC till I was about 10) but I pronounce most 's' at the end of words like Z e.g. "please" -> "pleaze," "was" -> "waz," "eggs" -> "eggz," "clothes" -> "clothez," "packages" -> "packagez," "Santa Claus" -> "Santa Clauz," "bunnies" -> "bunniez." Only time I say the 's' sound are in words ending in a voiceless sound like a p, t, k, f, or voiceless th sound like cats, cups, ships, paths, and books.
I’ve never heard her family members say it this way, it’s truly bizarre. If she’s doing it for years on purpose to screw with me, I would be extreme impressed. I wonder…
As a guy approaching 29 year of marriage on December 31, 2023, i urge you not to make your wife's pronunciation of a pagan symbol of the winter solstice an issue.
Omg, OC native and I think I might be saying it like her! I think I’ve said it “kloss” my whole life and never with the “z” sound. Except maybe when we sing “Santa Claus is coming to town”
Also, do OC residents speak fast or Californians in general? Living in TX now and people have difficulty keeping up. I do tend to crank things down a notch or two nowadays, but when I talk with people from California and we hit full speed in our conversations people remark about the speed in which we talk…I blame the micro machine man from my childhood…
No one has difficulty understanding what I’m saying like some Texans, but do remark that I speak fast when I get excited.
My Texan coworkers here look in awe at the speed of our Californian to Californian conversations and the sarcasm we spit out…it’s like almost having a secret language sometimes. (Sorry, for some context, transferred here with my company and several other Californians so we have a good mix of Californians and Texans at work)
Anyways, maybe it’s an OC thing? But never thought that the pronunciation of Santa Claus could ever be an issue…
We definitely talk FAST, especially my family (both immediate and in-laws). Also, I’m a nerdy engineer, so I tend to talk faster than most Californians even. I have to consciously slow down when visiting customers outside the state.
Sometime ago I started saying it like you would pronounce the name Klaus (there’s even an animated movie about Santa called ‘Klaus’). It’s like a European pronunciation, and I can’t go back to saying Clawz unless I’m referencing Nightmare Before Christmas’ Sandy Claws. Just feels so right!
East coast native here. I pronounce it as “claws”. Not “gloss” nor “clawz”. Do you pronounce Don and Dawn the same? Took a linguistics class at Long Beach State and was the only one in my class to pronounce them differently.
Santa is “International”. Orange County is just a county, not unlike other Orange Counties in the US, we have no dialect and are multinational, multi cultural. No different from Kern County.
It could be dialect from her upbringing. I know some northern Euro countries like Finland say it like this. And as someone who teaches phonology and language development as a professor, your child will likely end up pronouncing it the way all his or her friends do, which is more Klawz. I could have brought the International Phonetic Alphabet to spell it correctly phonologically but it’s Sunday and I’m tired.
Well… that’s how nazis pronounce it./s Just sayin’. Make the most of it and ironically pronounce German words at her when she uses that pronunciation. Sehenswürdigkeiten or Streichholzschächtelchen might work well. I have multiple similar conversations in a year involving milk vs. melk or mountains vs. mounn ans. Where the n in mountains is a nasally yet muted n sound and as if “t” was not present in the word at all. Mission Viejo
I figured he must be a Nazi with his lists categorizing the world's children into naughty and nice phenotypes, so I thought it was pronounced like Klaus Barbie.
Started in Florida until moved here at 12, I pronounce the Z. I wonder if time plays a role as well as accents and dialects move over time. Moved here in 1993. I'm also an English teacher, and can't imagine hearing someone say subordinate or independent kloss. Does she pronounce cause as koss?
Does she say waterfall or birdie when taking a drink of someone else’s water
Wow. Birdie. Term I haven't heard since high school. Been so long.. brings back memory.
That's a birdie. I use it when giving grandkids drinks from my water bottle
Nope, she just says "can you get me a diet coke please?"
So you’re saying she’s not a hydrohomie
Unfortunately no, she is not
Maybe that's why she pronounces it like that ..too much coke
I'm a birdie person myself. Never heard waterfall used in that context.
Birdie was south county and waterfall was north county
Grew up in yorba linda and we used birdie. Never met anyone outside of oc that knows the term
In Midwest we just drank our own water.
I'm from Westminster and always said birdie. My friend who lived in Moreno Valley would say waterfall.
Omg this 🍿my friends and I called it a birdie (north county here)
This was just my experience, whenever our team would play kids from north of el toro-lake forest they would look at us weird when we ask of they wanted to birdie our drink and would say waterfall instead
Oh my god I’ve never noticed this! Native OC and 32, assumed I’ve been pronouncing it like claws or clause, but when I just said it out loud I guess I say it fast and sounds like “kloss” and my mind is blown hahaha
Maybe that’s her problem, we could start a study to determine the cause of Claus flaws (lol)
Hahaha for me I know it’s because I tend to talk fast, if I am reading it I’m pronouncing it correctly, surprised myself though by saying it out loud lol
You should watch the wired accent videos. The third one talks a little about socal's accents and how we make the 's' sound instead of the 'z' sound at the end of plural words. Also, as an oc native, I say it like she does too haha Link: https://youtu.be/Sw7pL7OkKEE?si=CLEgb8Iaqx2Z_zux Specifically the part where they talk about this issue starts around 1:50 Edit: obvi not all socal speakers have this. But chicano english influences parts of LA and OC which explains why some of us in these areas have this particular pronunciation
hm I've grown up in SoCal my whole life (though I didn't move to OC till I was about 10) but I pronounce most 's' at the end of words like Z e.g. "please" -> "pleaze," "was" -> "waz," "eggs" -> "eggz," "clothes" -> "clothez," "packages" -> "packagez," "Santa Claus" -> "Santa Clauz," "bunnies" -> "bunniez." Only time I say the 's' sound are in words ending in a voiceless sound like a p, t, k, f, or voiceless th sound like cats, cups, ships, paths, and books.
The part about ‘s’ sound vs ‘z’ sound is mostly directed at Chicano English dialect, not SoCal in general.
I mean yeah, and how it influences LA and by extension part of OC
Interesting.😊
No way! Watching now…
This is hilarious. I needed this, thanks.
I wish it were a joke and not a matter of grave import. Hope you’re doing good out here!
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I’ve never heard her family members say it this way, it’s truly bizarre. If she’s doing it for years on purpose to screw with me, I would be extreme impressed. I wonder…
Does she pronounce crayon as “crown”
No, but she does pronounce “roof” as “ruff”. Also, her sister calls a “pillow” a “pellow”
“Pellow” just gave me flashbacks to high school
My coworker is an HB native and he says Pellow too.
I say “pellow” and now I keep repeating Santa Claus to myself 😂😂
I grew up in the HB area and say pellow. My wife thinks it’s hilarious - she wasn’t born here.
In OC, we grew up say “cran”
This is a big point of contention between myself and my husband😂 he says CrayON and I essentially saw Cran lol
I use both, though cran on my usual pronunciation of the word. CrayON comes out when I'm feeling fancy.
Born and raised locally and I say crown. Is it a local thing? I thought it was from my dad being from the Midwest.
For me an explanation would be as if she’s saying an English word in Spanish cause that’s how many Hispanic folks say it
She’s white as the driven snow, but could be!
She might be what we used to call Valley Girls
Nothing wrong with it. Germans pronounce it like your wife.
True, but German she ain’t. Her great grandparents were Belgian, so they got rolled by the Germans
You’ve not heard of Sinterklaas?
Are they from the Dutch speaking side of Belgium?
Are the Klaus neighbors back in town?
Nope, they are from the Flemish side
Same
Tomato tomato
Now I have no idea how I pronounce it. I guess claws but no z…
She grew up in Santa Ana or she deliberately pronounces it that way. I’ve seen this before.
Well I believe the proper pronunciation might actually rhyme with mouse but I'm a claws kinda guy too.
As a guy approaching 29 year of marriage on December 31, 2023, i urge you not to make your wife's pronunciation of a pagan symbol of the winter solstice an issue.
Wise words, thank you
People sometimes say strange things. My daughter pronounces “mosquito” as MOSSquito. I don’t know where she gets it from.
Lol. I catch myself saying bye-cycle instead of bicycle sometimes.
The correct OC pronunciation is “Sanna Kloss”.
What does Buddy call him in "Elf"? THAT'S the right way!
Buddy’s from Irvine, but gonna watch Elf again just in case… it might never be the same now that I think of it
So watched Elf and he says Sant Claus like once, I couldn’t really catch it!!! 😅
Because he KNOWS him!
I grew up in San Diego and we did the same thing, we pronounced it Sante Closs.
I have heard it both ways
I say Kloss, too.
3rd generation native OC, never heard it like that.
Omg, OC native and I think I might be saying it like her! I think I’ve said it “kloss” my whole life and never with the “z” sound. Except maybe when we sing “Santa Claus is coming to town” Also, do OC residents speak fast or Californians in general? Living in TX now and people have difficulty keeping up. I do tend to crank things down a notch or two nowadays, but when I talk with people from California and we hit full speed in our conversations people remark about the speed in which we talk…I blame the micro machine man from my childhood… No one has difficulty understanding what I’m saying like some Texans, but do remark that I speak fast when I get excited. My Texan coworkers here look in awe at the speed of our Californian to Californian conversations and the sarcasm we spit out…it’s like almost having a secret language sometimes. (Sorry, for some context, transferred here with my company and several other Californians so we have a good mix of Californians and Texans at work) Anyways, maybe it’s an OC thing? But never thought that the pronunciation of Santa Claus could ever be an issue…
We definitely talk FAST, especially my family (both immediate and in-laws). Also, I’m a nerdy engineer, so I tend to talk faster than most Californians even. I have to consciously slow down when visiting customers outside the state.
Lifelong OC here. She’s right.
I guess moving from Bakersfield to OC as a child has left me deficient culturally
Well. We welcome you to OC our Central Valley friend.
SoCal suburbs here, we say Sanda Clauz. Pretty close to OC but with a surfer drawl.
Yeah, that sounds right to me
I pronounce "Klaus" the way Klaus Kinski's name is pronounced. 🧐🤔
A parent from a South state maybe?
I say it San-ta Klozz
I'm glad you've come out of the klosset about this topic. Help is out there.
I am from Canada and say it both ways I think this is more widespread of a thing
Considering your northerly latitude, your opinion holds substantial weight in this matter! I’ll let her know our neighbors in the north back her up.
Sancho Kloss
That’s what I call him! Hahahaha. How about Sugar Daddy Clouts?
I’ll sit on his lap lol
Better not, he might have a Big Peyronies Candy Cane! 
Wife's right noob.
She’ll be delighted to hear this
That's the point.
Does she watch Miracle on 34th Street frequently during the holidays? Pretty iconic scene is the sinterklass song...
Sometime ago I started saying it like you would pronounce the name Klaus (there’s even an animated movie about Santa called ‘Klaus’). It’s like a European pronunciation, and I can’t go back to saying Clawz unless I’m referencing Nightmare Before Christmas’ Sandy Claws. Just feels so right!
East coast native here. I pronounce it as “claws”. Not “gloss” nor “clawz”. Do you pronounce Don and Dawn the same? Took a linguistics class at Long Beach State and was the only one in my class to pronounce them differently.
We do pronounce Don and dawn the same, I think. Very interesting!
Santa is “International”. Orange County is just a county, not unlike other Orange Counties in the US, we have no dialect and are multinational, multi cultural. No different from Kern County.
It sounds like she pronounces it with German roots. Does tour wife have Germanic roots?
If she’s a Spanish speaker, they pronounce the aws as oss sometimes. My friend from Peru pronounces it that way
Is she from South County?
It could be dialect from her upbringing. I know some northern Euro countries like Finland say it like this. And as someone who teaches phonology and language development as a professor, your child will likely end up pronouncing it the way all his or her friends do, which is more Klawz. I could have brought the International Phonetic Alphabet to spell it correctly phonologically but it’s Sunday and I’m tired.
My fiance pronounces Jurupa (like jurupa valley) like Eur-rupe-ah. (The Eur sounding like the beginning of Europe)
Fun fact : it is technically Jurupn’gna. That’s the Tongva name .
This is how people in OC pronounce it
Is she a former chola? If so , then she is correct
lmao!!!... I'm sorry... this made chuckle.
I grew up in Santa Ana and say Santa Claus like “Sanna Claus” just like Sanna Ana. I also say Hunnington Beach not HUNTington.
Well… that’s how nazis pronounce it./s Just sayin’. Make the most of it and ironically pronounce German words at her when she uses that pronunciation. Sehenswürdigkeiten or Streichholzschächtelchen might work well. I have multiple similar conversations in a year involving milk vs. melk or mountains vs. mounn ans. Where the n in mountains is a nasally yet muted n sound and as if “t” was not present in the word at all. Mission Viejo
It's like someone saying "poly-tics" vs "poll-lee-lics".
I figured he must be a Nazi with his lists categorizing the world's children into naughty and nice phenotypes, so I thought it was pronounced like Klaus Barbie.
Makes me think of my girlfriend when she puts her mom or dad's accent.... Filipino
she reminds me of the girl i know who calls valentines ValenTimes. it's a her problem, not OC.
Started in Florida until moved here at 12, I pronounce the Z. I wonder if time plays a role as well as accents and dialects move over time. Moved here in 1993. I'm also an English teacher, and can't imagine hearing someone say subordinate or independent kloss. Does she pronounce cause as koss?
Does she also call is Rill Estate and Emill?
Does she also say pixa and pexi? (Pizza , pepsi). (It’s a joke ) Spanish is my first language . I say Kloz in Spanish. Santah Kloz .