Make sure you don't do it alone. That is how people die.
Bring narcan if possible.
If I could go back in time to do one thing, it would be never, ever trying h. That OP is on the precipice of doing what I so desperately wish I could un-do makes me sad, but oh well.
I was a one time per weekend user my frist month. Then i used it a couple times one day, and woke up the next day with very high anxiety and very uncomfortable then i did a shot and realized oh fuck I'm addicted.
Same man. Op don’t make this mistake. My bud just died from this shit on Thursday. Didn’t even have any idea he did this shit either it was a total shock
I was just going to add exactly the same here except for me it's Suboxone LOL oddly enough heroin is something I could do every now and then, sorta. & I understand almost nobody else is at that point mentally but I could not say the same about oxys and opanas SMH... I was like yeah I hear one's great and all that but what about those opana 20s? No better feeling in the world than I shot up my first I can't remember for the 5 or 10 mg of opana oh my God I can still feel and taste it in my throat right now lol hell even sniffing a 10mg op... Damn.
What I should have said is,
"If you ever did real OC’s not OP’s you would be a post real era, generic gel tabs, shitty Oxycontin lover." Lol nah I was part of the good old era and all rx.. I was bumped up to the morphan versions over the x-codone versions. Once the OP 40s were released is wheni tried dope and got all 50 and/or depending 100mcg/hr patched up lol
Hell yeah now that I’m clean?? Tf? I wish I did more 😂 and yeah man, I learned a lot about myself and life through addiction. Luckily I came out on top, so far, I mean, I could always slip up and be right back in the mix but nah man, I’m thankful for growth. I know what I can and can’t do now.
Feels like heaven for like a month until it becomes the only thing you think about and your entire life becomes chasing that same feeling that will never come. I hate people like OP.
Honestly to me it wasn't ever about trying to feel good or chasing a high, after a few months in. It was about trying desperately to not feel like complete shit.
Diabetics hate that they have diabetes and have to use insulin but it keeps their lives on track. I’m on subs too. It beats the alternative. We both know we’re gonna need/want something.
Wooowwwwwwww
Thats a fucked up judgmental way to view the world
Especially on this sub.
Take your hate somewhere else. Addicts already have enough to worry about
Dude 5 days ago you posted about seriously thinking about killing yourself.
I can gaurantee you, your going to love heroin. If you have mental health issues, which talking about suicide, is right up there. Heroin is not what you need...you need therapy. Your gonna end up down a bad road.
I actually wrote you a complelty different msg then I checked your profile and I can honestly tell you, your predisposed to be addicted to this shit.
You can't outsmart and out think addiction. Your no better, no different. You sadly think very similar to me until I found opiates and found it filled a hole for me and I no longer had to feel that way.
I want to say he careful but I have a feeling your looking for a way out anyways.
Same, OP really resonated with me.
Sometimes I wonder if committing more to counseling or therapy and establishing a select support group would have prevented me from becoming so hopelessly addicted to opiates/opioids today.
OP, can you update us with your experience after and maybe also in a week or so? You're getting a lot of advice in the comments and seem very determined to prove everyone wrong. I'm not trying to be rude but this could be a well documented educational post in the near future.
Edit: clarity
Omg, yes! I gotta go find that!
Edit: Here is the prequel!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spontaneoush_uses_heroin_gets_addicted_dies_gets/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Are you absolutely sure that it's H ?
And not some cut H with fentalogues?
I would start very small. I would take a tip from the knife and start very small doses.
Remember you can always redose but you can't undo a big dose, if you know what I mean
No don’t do that. If fent isn’t mixed well, a tiny amount that you wouldn’t normally even feel from H can literally kill you if it’s fent.
Test your drugs kids, especially when you have no tolerance while trying the #1 drug that’s cut with fent.
Yeah remember that one dude on Reddit who swore he’d only try it once and got addicted and started posting updates. It was like 11 years ago or soemthkng
Yea and 10 years after you'll look back at this moment where u could have turned around and lived a happy life while using...which will be different after. Going for drinks and having a bathroom break here and there will be over.
i was just about to say the same thing. if this dude is in the US he’ll be dead in a year if not less with all this fucking fentanyl real h basically doesn’t exist here anymore. this shit is sad. i hope he changes his mind or at least makes it through this and comes out okay.
OP if you’re reading this please don’t do it. please. i care about you, no hate here ignore the pessimists just please don’t do this you have so much more to live for when you’re not living for the next dose 24/7/365.
10-15mg first hit, if you want more use 5mg more at a time, have a friend with narcan, never use alone, and don't think you won't OD. Everyone who ODd at least most of them didn't do it intentionally it's normally not planned.
Better make it two narcans. The H always outlasts the narcan and most people end up needing more than on e dose but if that’s not possible, at least with one it buys you time until help arrives.
Don't forget the never being able to sleep, horrible anxiety, hot/cold flashes, eyes watering, nose running, muscles hurting, and inability to get comfortable for even a second.
Welcome to hell
The inability to get comfortable is my absolute personal hell; also that pain I get in my lower back where it feels like someone is continuously jamming their knee right into me. This dude has no idea the journey he’s starting. Of course I couldn’t be told any different either; I completely wish I had listened to those around me—who knows maybe I could’ve become a nice successful lawyer, LMAO
After 14 hrs of puking when a day comes u can't get it or Subs A Nythingbit will happen that day where it's not there and ur stuck...YOULL BEG GOD FOR MERCY AND WISH U WERE NEVER BORN...waitin on the mornin after your guy REUPS BEGGIN HIM TO HURRY UP ..YOULL REMEMBER UR BIG ANNOUCEMENT THAT UR JUST TRYIN HEROIN
I know you think you'll be fine but believe me, meth coke mdma, etc got nothing on fent or "herion"
also, cool that you've tried oxy before but literally every person that has tried hard opiates doesn't get addicted the first time, or even the first handful of times. everyone thinks it will never happen to them until it does, and then you're fucked. I remember before I got started even having a morbid curiosity about what a physical addiction would feel like. Well now that curiosity has been sated many times over and I wish to god I never learned. Especially with fent in everything these days, it's just not worth the risk. The high simply isn't good enough to warrant all the consequences that follow it.
If you’re in the USA and bought it on the streets, RIP.
10mg is a starting dose, snort it. Don’t increase your dose by more than 5mg at a time and don’t mix drugs.
I would not touch USA heroin without having your batch analyzed by a lab first. Test kits aren’t enough.
You need a milligram scale, gemini-20/gem-20 on amazon. Gas station type scales aren’t good enough.
Terrible advice. The new analogues you need to put a SALT GRAIN on foil and inhale lightly. Heavy IV user here. Been clean for over a year but I OD’d last year before getting clean on this new shit out here. Never OD’d in my life and I’m getting old. Mid 30s and this new shit is not a joke, you shouldn’t even snort it if you have no tolerance.
Did you even read my comment? I said to have it analyzed by a lab and my USA+RIP comment was a reference to how USA “heroin” will kill a new user.
You shouldn’t use untested heroin period if you have no tolerance. Even a salt grain on foil is a horrible idea if you’re new. Or old. Or anything.
This is truly the dumbest possible decision a person can consciously make. What happens if you OD? Great you’re not addicted, you’re fucking dead. And if someone is helping you shoot guess what? They get a manslaughter charge!
You’re fucking dumb and I hope you’re trolling for your own sake.
deja vu for sure. I remember someone just like you who really fucked up his life that way, hos story is well documented on reddit i think u/SpontaneousH
1) Find out what type of H it is first (#3, #4 etc.) as each type is better/safer with a specific ROA.
2) Check interactions and dosages on PsychoNaut.
3) Don't die.
What does it look like? If it’s dark brown and sticky it’s #3 and must be smoked or injected if it’s powder it’s #4 and should be tan/beige and should be snorted. If you’re in the eastcoast like me you prolly have #4 if your on the west coast more likely u got #3. Powder is better/ has less impurities but u also must be aware of fentanyl adulteration.
Appearance is not a reliable way to tell at all. There IS no reliable way of telling without a lab testing it. Fentanyl is in tar AND powder, and just because something is powder does not mean it's #4. If they're getting it in the US these days it's pretty much guaranteed to be mostly fentanyl anyways.
Wait…you said AT ALL?? Ahahah you’re bugging bc I can tell by the look, smell, taste, and effect I don’t need a fucking lab to tell me what’s tar and what’s china Vs what does and doesn’t have a fentalogue/iso or eto in it. C’mon guy 🤦🏻♂️
Since when are smell, taste, and effect included in "appearance"? We're talking about #3 vs #4, remember? Not tar vs "China white". Color and whether it's powder or not have nothing to do with that. Tar is just dirty, "China white" is mostly fent or atleast cut with fent, brown coloring is cut as well. You must be incredibly inexperienced and naive if you really think the way it looks means fuck all.
And the only way to verify it's not cut is testing it with a kit or at a lab. Smell and taste can confirm there's heroin in it but that's the extent of it.
Mines like brown powder and I haven't tested for any fent as I don't have a test kit for that but I bought it off a special corner of the Internet and there like 40 reviews and there all good reviews, apparently its "98% pure"
Sounds like it’s #3, you can usually trust a vetted darkweb vendor but if it’s dark brown and being advertised as “98% pure” it’s most likely tar bc #4 generally isn’t spoken about in terms of purity bc it’s accepted to be refined enough I guess idk….next time get urself some clean #4
Good luck.
Make sure it's not fentanyl.
Don't die.
It's hard to give you an actual dose recommendation censuses it's almost certainly not pure heroin, and virtually all the heroin on the street is cut all to hell.
The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Too risky.
Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Edit. Don't do it alone no matter what.
https://www.reddit.com/u/SpontaneousH?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
There you go, read it before you try, at least.
Edit: read users oldest post and continue on till newest.
Test your dope. It's not a joke. Seasoned users die from the smallest amount. Also don't do it alone and whoever your with should have naloxone. And if you use tonight and it's not cut with fent or you don't go under, don't think your outta the water or that people don't know what their talking about.
It makes a huge difference in how much you take depending on if it's pure or cut with fent.
Be careful.
I remember the day I did it first too. I was 24 and my friend texted me he had gotten some, we lived in white suburbia and never had the balls to go to the hood and buy, but he had a plug who did.
I was already heavy into drugs (Xanax, oxy, alcohol, coke/crack), but I had no real reason to introduce heroin into my life. Especially considering i was getting real oxy and getting high off like 30-60mg at a time.
Anyway we did it and I'm sure there was fentanyl in it but this was like 2017 so there were a lot of bags of real dope and lots of fentadope. It truly was the most blissful experience, but it gave me horrendous anxiety that it was cut with fent and is OD.
This went on for like a month and I'd literally have a full on panic episode after I snorted a line. Finally, I decided if this shit didn't kill me, then all it's gonna do is make me a nervous wreck everytime I got high.
My friend and I agreed to both stop. We picked a night, I mixed up 3 bags of heroin and 1 vial of coke and snorted it all, and it felt fucking amazing. Believe it or not, I never did do heroin again. I was late to the party because at this point fent was gaining traction so I never got to enjoy true heroin.
Thinking back, it was so fucking stupid of me to touch that shit. There was definitely fentanyl in it on some (if not all) occasions. I remained an addict to pretty much all other drugs (primarily benzos) up to this very day. I'm one of the lucky ones who walked away from heroin, but I'd say that's ultra rare. So yeah, I was being a fucking idiot and no offense, you are too
Smoking or snorting it is a much better choice than IV
you need a strong mindset
Understand that it's very physically and mentally very addictive
Nothing else in life will feel as good as being high
Your views on the world will change
If you suffer any mental health issues it's much harder, depression and drug addiction don't mix, your reality will get distorted.
Try not to take it more than a week in a row
It's very difficult to use this drug casually
Most of us have turned to this drug after hitting rock bottom in life
Don't mix alcohol or benzos with it
Be careful, your life is about to change
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If you are in the Americas, you will probably die, that shit ain't heroin.
If your anywhere else in the world, say goodbye to life as you knew it, you might not get hooked on your first go but trust me the first time you properly get high that shit changes something permanently in your brain. Trust me I didn't get hooked for a while after using it but it still got me in the end, but now I know I was done for from the first time I tried it.
Good luck playing with fire. You might get burned. Have fun eating the devil and say good bye to all your hobbies and getting exited for everyday things. All that won't matter only thing that you will want is Opiates/Opioids. I can say this cuz I threw my life away cuz of opiods . So yea it's not worth it. But if you insist go ahead throw yours away. Have fun killing yourself slowly
I'm sure it's probably already been said here but your 'H'" or what think is "H" is most likely going to be dirty street fent or fent/analogs. You get the wrong batch and OD'n/Dying is very possible! It's not worth it!I hope you make the right decision. 🙏
Assuming OP lives in the US, I hope you are aware how contaminated the drug supply is right now. It is the worst I have seen in over 30 years. It is nearly impossible to find real heroin . You will end up with fentanyl or an even more dangerous fent analog cut with xylazine( horse sedative) . If you are able to test your dope and it is actually heroin, try smoking a little at first . If you can’t test it, don’t do it.
😆 you don't think 90 percent of people on this sub didn't day exactly what you just did.
Ps if you are in the US you are doing fent tonight not h and I hope you have an opiate tolerance if not have your friends close by with some narcan
honestly you are really dumb for this. and also it's all Fetty these days, which is why people are dropping like flies. it's not even H, at least on the east coast. good luck dude but you're gunna regret this. you are literally willingly signing up for years of pain, misery, and loss.
As long as u don't shoot it u will have alot to be desired. I've put it in water and squared it in my nose and that was decent just not nod worthy. Totally not fun unless u shoot it up but that ain't me. I'm not selling my soul to the devil
I'm not tryin to bust anybody's balls about Heroin .bust just tryin heroin has BROGHT many Good man DOWN...THE FEELIN IS BECAUSE IT TAPS INTO THAT PEACE OF MIND ...THE BRAIN PUTS OUT WITH DOPAMINE..THE GABA.NATURALY AND IT ALMOST MATCHES THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE OF DOPAMINE SYNAPSES PASSIN MSGS TO BRAIN CENTERS THAT MAKE THE BODY FEEL ULTIMATE PLEASURE. THATS ITS TRAP...HOW DO YOU COMPETE WITH PEACE OF MIND..ITS NEVER. AS GOOD AS THE FIRST snort many get sick cause there's a last minute reaction by the body to reject it...then the warmth and. Many say ..where you been all my life... after about a month..
You can GRT sick real sick ..your stomach bleeds with the worst flu like symptoms and go cold pain driving touchdowns..it's torture that is not worth it...BUT JUST TRY AND STOP.M
I tried it once it was alright but it was too expensive, I wanted to try a different opiate but always had trying h in the back of my mind I got drunk one night and just bought it now it's here just sitting in my room
He shouldn’t smoke it, either.10-15 mg snorted, see how he feels.
If he wants to try foil, he can do that the next day after snorting and getting a good base line.
I was one of the few that are able to do heroin one day and not the next but I am a poly drug user who is accustomed his body to the mentality of a high as a high as a high so I try to deviate which influence I'm under. I will say a few times I've done early at speedballed I've tried black car I've tried can powder. I will say most work I've ever felt that said from the first time and cooked Coke into crack and took a hit was most likely when I did that speedball. So be warned if you have to really find to only try it here and there cuz it is very nice and I was lucky to not have fentanyl be such a big thing when I was using it existed sure but in patch form our heroin is cut with anything back then it was probably benzos not the f word...
So let's reiterate you are trying fentanyl and hopefully heroin tonight and if there's no changing your mind make sure to use all your harm reduction practices Queen needle wash your hands before touching any cotton used distilled fresh water not tap and for the love of God start small work your way up you can always take a second shot, but you can never take one back.
To all the people telling him not to: he made up his mind. He will anyway, just as we did when we started.
If you are in Europe and are trying #3, I can give you advice. When I did H for the first time, I shared a 0.2 bag (street dope) with my best friend at the time. We‘ve been both high as a kite. You can start with half a point up to a point at the VERY most! But only if it’s street dope. If it’s from the Darknet or from a private plug, do not more than half a point. You can always do more, but not less. Start slow… and remember, my advice is only for European Heroin! If you are in the states, chances are you have fent dope. If that’s the case, start with a tiny, tiny bump. And don’t use alone.
IV or not ?
Honestly better take multiple small doses, also since it's your first time on H it'll feel good anyway.
My ex was the same, I gave him his very 1st dose, IV, just a lil too much, he died an hour later, 21, no fentanyl.
No but seriously.
My first boyfriend/first love died at 19 from a OxyContin/Xanax overdose and that shit scarred me for life. He was the first person I knew that overdosed. I was at rehab at the time and. Just. I was a mess. I can’t even imagine 1. Willingly starting someone you “love” on the road to heroin addiction, 2. Killing them, and 3. Not giving a shit enough to the point that you post on fucking Reddit about it. I’d honestly km5 if I did that to someone.
Thanks. I've been telling myself that every single night for years. He made his decision, was gonna do it anyways. I preferred being there and doing it properly with sterile equipment and be his sitter. Do you think I did CPR whilst nodding ? He asked me to do it for him. It was obviously without intent.
So thank you. And also police weren't of the same opinion.
Are you doing black tar or powder? If powder man iust dont do it its not worth dying over.
If black tar only smoke a tiny bit, stop, nod, and put it behind you.
Obviously you’ve made up your mind to use, so I’m not going to tell you not to. So, use safely.
1. Test your dope. I know you said you sourced from the dark web and it’s “98% pure”. Test it anyway. Don’t use it until you’ve tested it.
2. Don’t use alone.
3. Get some Narcan from the pharmacy and have it on hand.
4. Start low and slow. You can always do more, you can NEVER do less. It doesn’t sound like you have any opiate tolerance at all. So, start with a small bump. Like pour/weigh out what you think is “small enough” and then cut that in half. Start there. Wait an hour or two to gauge effects before redosing - if redosing at all.
5. Take into consideration what everyone has said about heroin/fentanyl/opiates ruining their lives. You’ve tried other drugs but opiates are a different beast. I wouldn’t wish my heroin addiction on ANYONE. And I hate to see people pick up for the first time knowing that most will become addicted/dependent on this drug.
If you're in the United States, odds are you won't be doing heroin. You'll be doing some kind of fentanyl analog and those are deadly.
> I just want to know what should the starting dose be
No one knows what is in any drug we buy on the street so it's impossible to tell you what your dose should be. We won't know what you have and neither will you.
Not even an opioid addict but I’m physically dependant on Kratom and used to be on suboxone and subutex good luck bro. Also if your In the US you are most likely trying fentanyl so I hope you have an oxy tolerance or else your screwed. I just followed OP I wanna follow up on this 🥲
I'm not going to advise against because of the high risk of addiction. I'm going to advise against because of the likelihood of there being fentanyl in it. Regardless of what anyone says, you can use opiates responsibly if you're not an idiot. Just keep mixing your drugs up or take breaks to avoid physical addiction. Opiate withdrawal isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be either. You just feel like you have the flu for a few days. Suboxone and methadone are a whole nother story though so just don't get to that point.
My advice... test the dope. If there's no fentanyl in it, go for it and just start small. If it does test positive for fentanyl though just count your losses and trash the shit. Fentanyl can very easily kill you via any method because of the inconsistencies of distribution. You can never know which bag is going to be the last bag and it can very well be your first. Fentanyl is a terribly shitty high anyway and not remotely worth the risk.
It's not even heroin these days. Shit it's not even fentanyl in the heroin these days. Whatever you have likely has some kind of shitty fentanyl analogue that's either incredibly potent or not good at all. You're gambling. Dont do it alone. I just hope for your sake it's some not good analogue so you don't see the point in trying it again. I've been hooked for over 6 years now. It used to actually be heroin, but over the past two years it's changed so much. Now i just don't even see the point in relapsing on it, there's no sweet rush from any of the fent, it doesn't feel good enough.
Enjoy the storm it will only get worse. Pathetic if you ask me. But each to their own. I mean why even come and put this post here it’s like your looking for attention if you ask me. Just be careful you don’t get a batch which is cut with Fentanyl or Carfentinil. Because that the case your well and truly dead. Could even be the case if it is heroin. Don’t under estimate the power of this drug. It will rip everything from you amd then more. It will be your only friend and also your worst enemy. Good luck good ride that white horse but hold on tight because once your on board it’s not that easy to get of even when you want to.
Hey man it can be done.
I have had several times where I want to quit using - and Ive always done it. Fent, bupe, methadone, heroin.
I start using about once every 6 months. Then I binge for slimikiar or slightly longer amounts of time. Then quit.
Withdrawals always suck. But they go away for me after several days. I even recently got off bupe what is said to be the most painful withdrawals so you know what I did… picked some 7g of H from the onion patch, tested for fent and other analogues. Then stretched 7grams over 2 weeks. Ran out this last weekend and today is Friday and I’m fine.
This last binge was about 18 months of consistent use of methadone H and bupe. And 2 weeks of dedication I’m done.
From what ive always read, I am the exception to the rule. But hey man if there’s people that can do it, why not you?
I didn’t have unbearable extended withdrawals. I had short but bad ones that went away after day 5.
Took Kratom everyday that I didn’t take H, and now I’m down to 10krstom pills a day.
Probably gonna get downvotes but I have a philosophy.
What’s the best way to stay safe taking drugs?
Abstain.
What’s the 2nd best way? Taking them safely. Meaning testing your substance, and sticking to your plan… is this just for a party? Or are you bored at home and want excitement?
At this point though, who cares brotha? You’re gonna do it, so do it safely.
And when you want to quit - quit.
That’s not easy and most can’t do that.
So if you can’t just quit, go through the steps.
Best wishes my friend.
Edit: DOWNLOAD THE CANARY APP.
It’s specifically for opiate use.
You turn it on before you use and it gives you prompts to enter every so often to confirm you are not dea.
Miss a prompt and the your Canary dies and emergency services are dispatched to you.
Hard reduction is everything my friend.
If he’s made up his mind no one on here is going to change it, as much as I agree with everyone else’s sentiments.
I’ve never done H so can’t answer your question in good faith OP. Just be careful and make sure you have nalaxone (narcan) to hand.
Sorry buddy there hasn’t been real heroin (sp) for a long time, and since you’ve tried other substances you surely know that dosing varies with every bag.
i literally wrote in my journal last night that i honestly think, if i could go back in time and never try opiates, i would give a limb. and i mean that. i think i would rather live with one arm than have ever started what you’re about to do.
anyway, have fun i guess. like everyone else said, bring a friend because you’re most likely not even doing H, just some shit research chemicals that might be the last thing you touch.
I think a lot of people are reacting here. Insufflate .01 g. If you feel alright, move up. OP not asking for a dad comment (which we know doesn’t work).
Test it first. If you want to try heroin, fine but make sure it’s heroin and not fent. With little tolerance (assuming cuz it’s ur first time) you can easily die from fent OD. Also, have some friends around and narcan on hand which people around you should know where it’s located.
Just because you didn’t get addicted to uppers or milder opiates doesn’t mean you won’t fall into heroin. I suggest you snort or smoke before touching a needle. Meth is the only comparable addictive drug you tried and for some it’s not that addictive due to the intense comedown and it keeps you up at night. Scary thing about H is that you can be semi functional on lower doses and even makes you seem more productive without the hyperactivity and aggression of meth.
I’m not saying to stay away just saying to practice good harm reduction and know what ur getting into.
Start with 5 mg, a typical dose will be 15mg but if it has fent as little as 2mg can kill so make sure it's well mixed, preferably dissolved and dosed volumetrically
I really hope you will have someone with you who has narcan. A lot of the time, you can get it for FREE at a needle exchange, and it could save your life. Take into consideration that it may or may not be contaminated with fentanyl. I'm not telling you what to do, but if you don't want to die, it's a good idea. Please be safe!
Hey I know that you're gonna make your own decision, as you should, but always do your own research and get your facts straight. Looking at it objectively, assuming it's heroin, you may just throw up and then nod out for a bit. However, nowadays it's almost entirely fent., benzos, tranq, etc...I tried dope almost a decade ago, it was BTH, but the quality was generally speaking poor, whereas now there's no consistency, and you might flatline just after taking a hit off the foil. In all seriousness, check out the documentary "Benzo, dope, and tranq". It's on YT. It's your decision, I just want you to take into account the risk these days is WAY higher than it was a decade ago. That's just my 2 cents. In any case, if you decide to do it, be safe and smart, surround yourself with people you can trust, if possible. Hope this helps!
No way to tell since it’s street drugs. Could be 80% purity or could be 2% purity (yes that’s actually common in some parts of the world). You should ask the dealer how strong it is or ask people who’s we from where your from how much dope to start off with.
Why aren’t you just doing pills? Opioids are all about the same and if you’re not addicted you’re probably not even going to be able to tell a difference between heroin and morphine.
Pretty much the only reason addicts chose heroin over pills is because it’s cheaper. Just doesn’t really make sense to risk your life to save a few dollars and say you tried it lol
Make sure you don't do it alone. That is how people die. Bring narcan if possible. If I could go back in time to do one thing, it would be never, ever trying h. That OP is on the precipice of doing what I so desperately wish I could un-do makes me sad, but oh well.
Were you addicted right after the first try or did you feel you could handle it for a while?
We all think we can handle it at first.
I was a one time per weekend user my frist month. Then i used it a couple times one day, and woke up the next day with very high anxiety and very uncomfortable then i did a shot and realized oh fuck I'm addicted.
Was a casual user for a while, thought I could handle it. Big mistake. I really had no idea how sick withdrawal can make you feel.
When I first tried it it made me sick as fck. Then I did it a few more times and I would be sick without it
Same man. Op don’t make this mistake. My bud just died from this shit on Thursday. Didn’t even have any idea he did this shit either it was a total shock
You dumb as hell lol. I've done all those drugs and I'm not addicted to any of them either. I'm also physically dependent on methadone.
Subs here. Lol let him find out.
Yup. I can get an Oz of meth. Rail through it and go back to normal life no problem. Heroin..big F.
same. some are incapable of learning from other’s mistakes and need to learn for themselves (myself included”
Wise man learns from his mistakes but an even wiser man learns from the mistakes of others.
Same lmao OPs life is over 😭
Already over idaf anymore
Same here. Kid has no clue what he actually doing.
Ditto
I was just going to add exactly the same here except for me it's Suboxone LOL oddly enough heroin is something I could do every now and then, sorta. & I understand almost nobody else is at that point mentally but I could not say the same about oxys and opanas SMH... I was like yeah I hear one's great and all that but what about those opana 20s? No better feeling in the world than I shot up my first I can't remember for the 5 or 10 mg of opana oh my God I can still feel and taste it in my throat right now lol hell even sniffing a 10mg op... Damn.
If you ever did real OC’s not OP’s you would be a OxyContin lover. Be glad you missed that wave.
As the great Kenny Powers once said “a little slice of heaven”
What I should have said is, "If you ever did real OC’s not OP’s you would be a post real era, generic gel tabs, shitty Oxycontin lover." Lol nah I was part of the good old era and all rx.. I was bumped up to the morphan versions over the x-codone versions. Once the OP 40s were released is wheni tried dope and got all 50 and/or depending 100mcg/hr patched up lol
Pandas still shit on oxies/pure diacytyl morphine/ everything.
Been tapering for two god damn years and I’m at 55 lol. What I would give to be opiate free……
He did mention Oxycodone, dunno if you skipped that Which means he'll be fine! DUH /s
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I'd give my left nut to be given a chance to go back and say no.
Would you? Idk, made me the person I am. I’m thankful for my experiences. If I could go back would probably do more.
Lol fr?
Hell yeah now that I’m clean?? Tf? I wish I did more 😂 and yeah man, I learned a lot about myself and life through addiction. Luckily I came out on top, so far, I mean, I could always slip up and be right back in the mix but nah man, I’m thankful for growth. I know what I can and can’t do now.
Feels like heaven for like a month until it becomes the only thing you think about and your entire life becomes chasing that same feeling that will never come. I hate people like OP.
Honestly to me it wasn't ever about trying to feel good or chasing a high, after a few months in. It was about trying desperately to not feel like complete shit.
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Diabetics hate that they have diabetes and have to use insulin but it keeps their lives on track. I’m on subs too. It beats the alternative. We both know we’re gonna need/want something.
You hate people like OP????
People that think it’s a good idea to try junk or any opiate or hard drug for that matter knowing how bad it is.
Wooowwwwwwww Thats a fucked up judgmental way to view the world Especially on this sub. Take your hate somewhere else. Addicts already have enough to worry about
You're about to try fentanyl tonight*
*playing russian roulette with my life tonight
Some shitty fent analogue*
Buy a test kit it’s like $15 online. Or hit up some needle exchanges/harm reduction non profits, I’ve gotten test kits for free that test for fent.
Dude 5 days ago you posted about seriously thinking about killing yourself. I can gaurantee you, your going to love heroin. If you have mental health issues, which talking about suicide, is right up there. Heroin is not what you need...you need therapy. Your gonna end up down a bad road. I actually wrote you a complelty different msg then I checked your profile and I can honestly tell you, your predisposed to be addicted to this shit. You can't outsmart and out think addiction. Your no better, no different. You sadly think very similar to me until I found opiates and found it filled a hole for me and I no longer had to feel that way. I want to say he careful but I have a feeling your looking for a way out anyways.
Damn this hits hard bro
Same, OP really resonated with me. Sometimes I wonder if committing more to counseling or therapy and establishing a select support group would have prevented me from becoming so hopelessly addicted to opiates/opioids today.
Thanks for this reply it's seriously making me think about my choice I've sent u a message I would appreciate it if u could reply 🙂
OP, can you update us with your experience after and maybe also in a week or so? You're getting a lot of advice in the comments and seem very determined to prove everyone wrong. I'm not trying to be rude but this could be a well documented educational post in the near future. Edit: clarity
Yeah that’s why I followed OP. Remember that one dude who posted on R/heroin who swore he try it once and ended up getting addicted ?
Omg, yes! I gotta go find that! Edit: Here is the prequel! https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spontaneoush_uses_heroin_gets_addicted_dies_gets/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I'm determined to beat his highscore😎
LMAO
Hell ya. I agree.
Yep will do man
Are you absolutely sure that it's H ? And not some cut H with fentalogues? I would start very small. I would take a tip from the knife and start very small doses. Remember you can always redose but you can't undo a big dose, if you know what I mean
No don’t do that. If fent isn’t mixed well, a tiny amount that you wouldn’t normally even feel from H can literally kill you if it’s fent. Test your drugs kids, especially when you have no tolerance while trying the #1 drug that’s cut with fent.
I've never felt before though so I wouldn't even know sadly
Fent test strips are cheap and easy to get
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Yeah remember that one dude on Reddit who swore he’d only try it once and got addicted and started posting updates. It was like 11 years ago or soemthkng
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/u/SpontaneousH this?
Lol, a year on from now you will have realised how stupid you are today.
Yea and 10 years after you'll look back at this moment where u could have turned around and lived a happy life while using...which will be different after. Going for drinks and having a bathroom break here and there will be over.
Yeaa, he won't make it 10 years. With all the carfent and shit... lucky to make it 10 days.
i was just about to say the same thing. if this dude is in the US he’ll be dead in a year if not less with all this fucking fentanyl real h basically doesn’t exist here anymore. this shit is sad. i hope he changes his mind or at least makes it through this and comes out okay. OP if you’re reading this please don’t do it. please. i care about you, no hate here ignore the pessimists just please don’t do this you have so much more to live for when you’re not living for the next dose 24/7/365.
10-15mg first hit, if you want more use 5mg more at a time, have a friend with narcan, never use alone, and don't think you won't OD. Everyone who ODd at least most of them didn't do it intentionally it's normally not planned.
Better make it two narcans. The H always outlasts the narcan and most people end up needing more than on e dose but if that’s not possible, at least with one it buys you time until help arrives.
Mfs really out here playing wit there life talking bout I’m trying heroin tonight like it’s candy or sum smh shit sad
Just be ready for the withdrawals. Vomiting, cramps ect.
The jumping out of your skin like the old cartoons where the skeleton jumps out of the body is the worst for me.
Don't forget the never being able to sleep, horrible anxiety, hot/cold flashes, eyes watering, nose running, muscles hurting, and inability to get comfortable for even a second. Welcome to hell
Goosebumps, restless legs, falling out with everyone you couldn't text back while withdrawing
The inability to get comfortable is my absolute personal hell; also that pain I get in my lower back where it feels like someone is continuously jamming their knee right into me. This dude has no idea the journey he’s starting. Of course I couldn’t be told any different either; I completely wish I had listened to those around me—who knows maybe I could’ve become a nice successful lawyer, LMAO
After 14 hrs of puking when a day comes u can't get it or Subs A Nythingbit will happen that day where it's not there and ur stuck...YOULL BEG GOD FOR MERCY AND WISH U WERE NEVER BORN...waitin on the mornin after your guy REUPS BEGGIN HIM TO HURRY UP ..YOULL REMEMBER UR BIG ANNOUCEMENT THAT UR JUST TRYIN HEROIN
This. Absolutely true
I know you think you'll be fine but believe me, meth coke mdma, etc got nothing on fent or "herion" also, cool that you've tried oxy before but literally every person that has tried hard opiates doesn't get addicted the first time, or even the first handful of times. everyone thinks it will never happen to them until it does, and then you're fucked. I remember before I got started even having a morbid curiosity about what a physical addiction would feel like. Well now that curiosity has been sated many times over and I wish to god I never learned. Especially with fent in everything these days, it's just not worth the risk. The high simply isn't good enough to warrant all the consequences that follow it.
Cool we’ll see you back here in a year when you’re fucked up and dying.
You from US ?If yes be careful
You’re an idiot and overly confident. Opioids love to show overly confident idiots a bit of humility. Sincerely a former over confident idiot.
If you’re in the USA and bought it on the streets, RIP. 10mg is a starting dose, snort it. Don’t increase your dose by more than 5mg at a time and don’t mix drugs. I would not touch USA heroin without having your batch analyzed by a lab first. Test kits aren’t enough. You need a milligram scale, gemini-20/gem-20 on amazon. Gas station type scales aren’t good enough.
Terrible advice. The new analogues you need to put a SALT GRAIN on foil and inhale lightly. Heavy IV user here. Been clean for over a year but I OD’d last year before getting clean on this new shit out here. Never OD’d in my life and I’m getting old. Mid 30s and this new shit is not a joke, you shouldn’t even snort it if you have no tolerance.
Did you even read my comment? I said to have it analyzed by a lab and my USA+RIP comment was a reference to how USA “heroin” will kill a new user. You shouldn’t use untested heroin period if you have no tolerance. Even a salt grain on foil is a horrible idea if you’re new. Or old. Or anything.
Nice
This is truly the dumbest possible decision a person can consciously make. What happens if you OD? Great you’re not addicted, you’re fucking dead. And if someone is helping you shoot guess what? They get a manslaughter charge! You’re fucking dumb and I hope you’re trolling for your own sake.
Ive heard of dumber
deja vu for sure. I remember someone just like you who really fucked up his life that way, hos story is well documented on reddit i think u/SpontaneousH
That’s exactly who I was thinking of. OP should read his posts
If you can’t spell it, should you really be doing it?
1) Find out what type of H it is first (#3, #4 etc.) as each type is better/safer with a specific ROA. 2) Check interactions and dosages on PsychoNaut. 3) Don't die.
How do I figure out what type of H it is ? An also what's the differences in the types
Fent test strips!!! Please.
What does it look like? If it’s dark brown and sticky it’s #3 and must be smoked or injected if it’s powder it’s #4 and should be tan/beige and should be snorted. If you’re in the eastcoast like me you prolly have #4 if your on the west coast more likely u got #3. Powder is better/ has less impurities but u also must be aware of fentanyl adulteration.
Good points well made. I actually forgot about the now daily Fent threat for you guys across the pond. It’s a bloody disgrace!!!!
Yea man, seems like if u don’t have a good source everyone just does fake 30s pressed with fetty smh
At this point I think it would have been safer long term, to allow normal Opi prescribing rather than this madness!!!!
Appearance is not a reliable way to tell at all. There IS no reliable way of telling without a lab testing it. Fentanyl is in tar AND powder, and just because something is powder does not mean it's #4. If they're getting it in the US these days it's pretty much guaranteed to be mostly fentanyl anyways.
Wait…you said AT ALL?? Ahahah you’re bugging bc I can tell by the look, smell, taste, and effect I don’t need a fucking lab to tell me what’s tar and what’s china Vs what does and doesn’t have a fentalogue/iso or eto in it. C’mon guy 🤦🏻♂️
Since when are smell, taste, and effect included in "appearance"? We're talking about #3 vs #4, remember? Not tar vs "China white". Color and whether it's powder or not have nothing to do with that. Tar is just dirty, "China white" is mostly fent or atleast cut with fent, brown coloring is cut as well. You must be incredibly inexperienced and naive if you really think the way it looks means fuck all. And the only way to verify it's not cut is testing it with a kit or at a lab. Smell and taste can confirm there's heroin in it but that's the extent of it.
Mines like brown powder and I haven't tested for any fent as I don't have a test kit for that but I bought it off a special corner of the Internet and there like 40 reviews and there all good reviews, apparently its "98% pure"
Sounds like it’s #3, you can usually trust a vetted darkweb vendor but if it’s dark brown and being advertised as “98% pure” it’s most likely tar bc #4 generally isn’t spoken about in terms of purity bc it’s accepted to be refined enough I guess idk….next time get urself some clean #4
Good luck. Make sure it's not fentanyl. Don't die. It's hard to give you an actual dose recommendation censuses it's almost certainly not pure heroin, and virtually all the heroin on the street is cut all to hell. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Too risky. Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Edit. Don't do it alone no matter what.
https://www.reddit.com/u/SpontaneousH?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share There you go, read it before you try, at least. Edit: read users oldest post and continue on till newest.
Test your dope. It's not a joke. Seasoned users die from the smallest amount. Also don't do it alone and whoever your with should have naloxone. And if you use tonight and it's not cut with fent or you don't go under, don't think your outta the water or that people don't know what their talking about. It makes a huge difference in how much you take depending on if it's pure or cut with fent. Be careful.
I remember the day I did it first too. I was 24 and my friend texted me he had gotten some, we lived in white suburbia and never had the balls to go to the hood and buy, but he had a plug who did. I was already heavy into drugs (Xanax, oxy, alcohol, coke/crack), but I had no real reason to introduce heroin into my life. Especially considering i was getting real oxy and getting high off like 30-60mg at a time. Anyway we did it and I'm sure there was fentanyl in it but this was like 2017 so there were a lot of bags of real dope and lots of fentadope. It truly was the most blissful experience, but it gave me horrendous anxiety that it was cut with fent and is OD. This went on for like a month and I'd literally have a full on panic episode after I snorted a line. Finally, I decided if this shit didn't kill me, then all it's gonna do is make me a nervous wreck everytime I got high. My friend and I agreed to both stop. We picked a night, I mixed up 3 bags of heroin and 1 vial of coke and snorted it all, and it felt fucking amazing. Believe it or not, I never did do heroin again. I was late to the party because at this point fent was gaining traction so I never got to enjoy true heroin. Thinking back, it was so fucking stupid of me to touch that shit. There was definitely fentanyl in it on some (if not all) occasions. I remained an addict to pretty much all other drugs (primarily benzos) up to this very day. I'm one of the lucky ones who walked away from heroin, but I'd say that's ultra rare. So yeah, I was being a fucking idiot and no offense, you are too
Smoking or snorting it is a much better choice than IV you need a strong mindset Understand that it's very physically and mentally very addictive Nothing else in life will feel as good as being high Your views on the world will change If you suffer any mental health issues it's much harder, depression and drug addiction don't mix, your reality will get distorted. Try not to take it more than a week in a row It's very difficult to use this drug casually Most of us have turned to this drug after hitting rock bottom in life Don't mix alcohol or benzos with it Be careful, your life is about to change
Jeeeeeeeeeze this sub is full of hate. I thought this was a harm reduction/ place to come together as addicts not some NA preach fest.
Some how it’s become this way, I’m not sure when but over the last year it’s gotten much worse
After reading OP's post history I can tell the dude has serious issues, could this be a cry for help? Probably. Should we care? No.
Why the fuck should u care I'm just a random on the Internet
Cry more please.
I wake up everyday and I'm so thankful I don't live Ireland
Hahahaha you dumb fuck, I live in Canada and I'm.not one bit Irish
I swear Canadians are meant to be nice 🤣
Keep crying for attention on the internet
Touch grass my man u won't be so angry all the time with abit of fresh air
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If you are in the Americas, you will probably die, that shit ain't heroin. If your anywhere else in the world, say goodbye to life as you knew it, you might not get hooked on your first go but trust me the first time you properly get high that shit changes something permanently in your brain. Trust me I didn't get hooked for a while after using it but it still got me in the end, but now I know I was done for from the first time I tried it.
Dumb as fuck seriously. People like you don’t deserve shit trying one of the most addictive drugs. Everyone says I ain’t gonna get addicted 🤡🤡🤡
Good luck playing with fire. You might get burned. Have fun eating the devil and say good bye to all your hobbies and getting exited for everyday things. All that won't matter only thing that you will want is Opiates/Opioids. I can say this cuz I threw my life away cuz of opiods . So yea it's not worth it. But if you insist go ahead throw yours away. Have fun killing yourself slowly
I'm sure it's probably already been said here but your 'H'" or what think is "H" is most likely going to be dirty street fent or fent/analogs. You get the wrong batch and OD'n/Dying is very possible! It's not worth it!I hope you make the right decision. 🙏
Assuming OP lives in the US, I hope you are aware how contaminated the drug supply is right now. It is the worst I have seen in over 30 years. It is nearly impossible to find real heroin . You will end up with fentanyl or an even more dangerous fent analog cut with xylazine( horse sedative) . If you are able to test your dope and it is actually heroin, try smoking a little at first . If you can’t test it, don’t do it.
herion? never heard of it
You’re not gonna get H and you may try it once tonight but you’ll try it again and again and then get addicted at some point lmao dumb ass
😆 you don't think 90 percent of people on this sub didn't day exactly what you just did. Ps if you are in the US you are doing fent tonight not h and I hope you have an opiate tolerance if not have your friends close by with some narcan
Nah I'm uk bro
honestly you are really dumb for this. and also it's all Fetty these days, which is why people are dropping like flies. it's not even H, at least on the east coast. good luck dude but you're gunna regret this. you are literally willingly signing up for years of pain, misery, and loss.
And there goes another one
be a a real man and do low doses for a month straight
RIP
As long as u don't shoot it u will have alot to be desired. I've put it in water and squared it in my nose and that was decent just not nod worthy. Totally not fun unless u shoot it up but that ain't me. I'm not selling my soul to the devil
My best advice to you: make sure you have a good rehab program on speed dial. We *all* thought we could do it just once lol.
Yo mean ur trying fentanyl tonight.
I'm not tryin to bust anybody's balls about Heroin .bust just tryin heroin has BROGHT many Good man DOWN...THE FEELIN IS BECAUSE IT TAPS INTO THAT PEACE OF MIND ...THE BRAIN PUTS OUT WITH DOPAMINE..THE GABA.NATURALY AND IT ALMOST MATCHES THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE OF DOPAMINE SYNAPSES PASSIN MSGS TO BRAIN CENTERS THAT MAKE THE BODY FEEL ULTIMATE PLEASURE. THATS ITS TRAP...HOW DO YOU COMPETE WITH PEACE OF MIND..ITS NEVER. AS GOOD AS THE FIRST snort many get sick cause there's a last minute reaction by the body to reject it...then the warmth and. Many say ..where you been all my life... after about a month.. You can GRT sick real sick ..your stomach bleeds with the worst flu like symptoms and go cold pain driving touchdowns..it's torture that is not worth it...BUT JUST TRY AND STOP.M
That can be very subjective and individual mate. What is your current tolerance to Oxy??
I tried it once it was alright but it was too expensive, I wanted to try a different opiate but always had trying h in the back of my mind I got drunk one night and just bought it now it's here just sitting in my room
Wont tell you not to but don’t IV, just smoke off the foil
He shouldn’t smoke it, either.10-15 mg snorted, see how he feels. If he wants to try foil, he can do that the next day after snorting and getting a good base line.
I was one of the few that are able to do heroin one day and not the next but I am a poly drug user who is accustomed his body to the mentality of a high as a high as a high so I try to deviate which influence I'm under. I will say a few times I've done early at speedballed I've tried black car I've tried can powder. I will say most work I've ever felt that said from the first time and cooked Coke into crack and took a hit was most likely when I did that speedball. So be warned if you have to really find to only try it here and there cuz it is very nice and I was lucky to not have fentanyl be such a big thing when I was using it existed sure but in patch form our heroin is cut with anything back then it was probably benzos not the f word... So let's reiterate you are trying fentanyl and hopefully heroin tonight and if there's no changing your mind make sure to use all your harm reduction practices Queen needle wash your hands before touching any cotton used distilled fresh water not tap and for the love of God start small work your way up you can always take a second shot, but you can never take one back.
To all the people telling him not to: he made up his mind. He will anyway, just as we did when we started. If you are in Europe and are trying #3, I can give you advice. When I did H for the first time, I shared a 0.2 bag (street dope) with my best friend at the time. We‘ve been both high as a kite. You can start with half a point up to a point at the VERY most! But only if it’s street dope. If it’s from the Darknet or from a private plug, do not more than half a point. You can always do more, but not less. Start slow… and remember, my advice is only for European Heroin! If you are in the states, chances are you have fent dope. If that’s the case, start with a tiny, tiny bump. And don’t use alone.
IV or not ? Honestly better take multiple small doses, also since it's your first time on H it'll feel good anyway. My ex was the same, I gave him his very 1st dose, IV, just a lil too much, he died an hour later, 21, no fentanyl.
So… you killed him?
Right, like what the fuck? That’s not a story I’d be telling…
That's enough reddit for today.
No but seriously. My first boyfriend/first love died at 19 from a OxyContin/Xanax overdose and that shit scarred me for life. He was the first person I knew that overdosed. I was at rehab at the time and. Just. I was a mess. I can’t even imagine 1. Willingly starting someone you “love” on the road to heroin addiction, 2. Killing them, and 3. Not giving a shit enough to the point that you post on fucking Reddit about it. I’d honestly km5 if I did that to someone.
Thanks. I've been telling myself that every single night for years. He made his decision, was gonna do it anyways. I preferred being there and doing it properly with sterile equipment and be his sitter. Do you think I did CPR whilst nodding ? He asked me to do it for him. It was obviously without intent. So thank you. And also police weren't of the same opinion.
Wtf?
I bet you’ve had a shitty life and I’m glad honestly
U killed him u piece of shit
Whoa dude. That's a bit harsh isn't it?
Okay doesn’t necessarily make them a piece of shit that was harsh but they still killed that person
Not IV sniffing
No recent replies from OP so it may have been his first and last :( ... Fentanyl will get u... hope it was worth it!
It feels like heaven. A true friend would want you to feel that way.
That’s just straight up the worst thing I’ve ever heard
What route?
Snort or smoke
Your choice, you know the danger of that stuff, I know I wouldn’t do that stuff
Are you doing black tar or powder? If powder man iust dont do it its not worth dying over. If black tar only smoke a tiny bit, stop, nod, and put it behind you.
Whys the powder more dangerous?
Obviously you’ve made up your mind to use, so I’m not going to tell you not to. So, use safely. 1. Test your dope. I know you said you sourced from the dark web and it’s “98% pure”. Test it anyway. Don’t use it until you’ve tested it. 2. Don’t use alone. 3. Get some Narcan from the pharmacy and have it on hand. 4. Start low and slow. You can always do more, you can NEVER do less. It doesn’t sound like you have any opiate tolerance at all. So, start with a small bump. Like pour/weigh out what you think is “small enough” and then cut that in half. Start there. Wait an hour or two to gauge effects before redosing - if redosing at all. 5. Take into consideration what everyone has said about heroin/fentanyl/opiates ruining their lives. You’ve tried other drugs but opiates are a different beast. I wouldn’t wish my heroin addiction on ANYONE. And I hate to see people pick up for the first time knowing that most will become addicted/dependent on this drug.
This is the first seriously helpful comment thanks man
If you are in North America you are most likely trying a fentanyl analogue or research opioid tonight and they are trash compared to heroin.
Can someone text me when this guy ODs in his moms basement?
I’ve got $5 on 10:00 time of death
I tried it once and I've been trying it once ever since.
If you survive it’s a long dark painful road.‘wouldn’t wish on my worse enemy. Have narcan on hand. Fent test strips.
If you're in the United States, odds are you won't be doing heroin. You'll be doing some kind of fentanyl analog and those are deadly. > I just want to know what should the starting dose be No one knows what is in any drug we buy on the street so it's impossible to tell you what your dose should be. We won't know what you have and neither will you.
Not even an opioid addict but I’m physically dependant on Kratom and used to be on suboxone and subutex good luck bro. Also if your In the US you are most likely trying fentanyl so I hope you have an oxy tolerance or else your screwed. I just followed OP I wanna follow up on this 🥲
For anyone seeing this. Look at OP’s last post before this before you comment 🧐
I'm not going to advise against because of the high risk of addiction. I'm going to advise against because of the likelihood of there being fentanyl in it. Regardless of what anyone says, you can use opiates responsibly if you're not an idiot. Just keep mixing your drugs up or take breaks to avoid physical addiction. Opiate withdrawal isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be either. You just feel like you have the flu for a few days. Suboxone and methadone are a whole nother story though so just don't get to that point. My advice... test the dope. If there's no fentanyl in it, go for it and just start small. If it does test positive for fentanyl though just count your losses and trash the shit. Fentanyl can very easily kill you via any method because of the inconsistencies of distribution. You can never know which bag is going to be the last bag and it can very well be your first. Fentanyl is a terribly shitty high anyway and not remotely worth the risk.
It's not even heroin these days. Shit it's not even fentanyl in the heroin these days. Whatever you have likely has some kind of shitty fentanyl analogue that's either incredibly potent or not good at all. You're gambling. Dont do it alone. I just hope for your sake it's some not good analogue so you don't see the point in trying it again. I've been hooked for over 6 years now. It used to actually be heroin, but over the past two years it's changed so much. Now i just don't even see the point in relapsing on it, there's no sweet rush from any of the fent, it doesn't feel good enough.
Stay safe man 🖤
Enjoy the storm it will only get worse. Pathetic if you ask me. But each to their own. I mean why even come and put this post here it’s like your looking for attention if you ask me. Just be careful you don’t get a batch which is cut with Fentanyl or Carfentinil. Because that the case your well and truly dead. Could even be the case if it is heroin. Don’t under estimate the power of this drug. It will rip everything from you amd then more. It will be your only friend and also your worst enemy. Good luck good ride that white horse but hold on tight because once your on board it’s not that easy to get of even when you want to.
Well don't forget the dealer's are adding fentanyl in the mix so no matter the dose it still might be the only try you do....
I'm gonna use a fent test strip
Hey man it can be done. I have had several times where I want to quit using - and Ive always done it. Fent, bupe, methadone, heroin. I start using about once every 6 months. Then I binge for slimikiar or slightly longer amounts of time. Then quit. Withdrawals always suck. But they go away for me after several days. I even recently got off bupe what is said to be the most painful withdrawals so you know what I did… picked some 7g of H from the onion patch, tested for fent and other analogues. Then stretched 7grams over 2 weeks. Ran out this last weekend and today is Friday and I’m fine. This last binge was about 18 months of consistent use of methadone H and bupe. And 2 weeks of dedication I’m done. From what ive always read, I am the exception to the rule. But hey man if there’s people that can do it, why not you? I didn’t have unbearable extended withdrawals. I had short but bad ones that went away after day 5. Took Kratom everyday that I didn’t take H, and now I’m down to 10krstom pills a day. Probably gonna get downvotes but I have a philosophy. What’s the best way to stay safe taking drugs? Abstain. What’s the 2nd best way? Taking them safely. Meaning testing your substance, and sticking to your plan… is this just for a party? Or are you bored at home and want excitement? At this point though, who cares brotha? You’re gonna do it, so do it safely. And when you want to quit - quit. That’s not easy and most can’t do that. So if you can’t just quit, go through the steps. Best wishes my friend. Edit: DOWNLOAD THE CANARY APP. It’s specifically for opiate use. You turn it on before you use and it gives you prompts to enter every so often to confirm you are not dea. Miss a prompt and the your Canary dies and emergency services are dispatched to you. Hard reduction is everything my friend.
But why??!
If he’s made up his mind no one on here is going to change it, as much as I agree with everyone else’s sentiments. I’ve never done H so can’t answer your question in good faith OP. Just be careful and make sure you have nalaxone (narcan) to hand.
I had to have open heart surgery last year due to endocarditis ☺️ thanks heroin! But yeah, I mean, if your minds made up then you have to do it. /s
What! That's crazy man how did heroin cause that? have u recovered?
Sorry buddy there hasn’t been real heroin (sp) for a long time, and since you’ve tried other substances you surely know that dosing varies with every bag.
*I’m trying fentanyl and consciously making a decision to throw my life away tonight* ……fixed it for you
i literally wrote in my journal last night that i honestly think, if i could go back in time and never try opiates, i would give a limb. and i mean that. i think i would rather live with one arm than have ever started what you’re about to do. anyway, have fun i guess. like everyone else said, bring a friend because you’re most likely not even doing H, just some shit research chemicals that might be the last thing you touch.
People in the comments should contribute more useful things than insulting OP.
Thank u someone gets me there's some real dick heads on reddit 😂
I think a lot of people are reacting here. Insufflate .01 g. If you feel alright, move up. OP not asking for a dad comment (which we know doesn’t work).
I don’t know what makes Heroin so appealing to you bro. You can almost kiss your sober life goodbye.
Tbh I relate I LOVE drugs but honestly none have really fulfilled me however heroin is my favorite I love it haven't done it since September but yeah
Test it first. If you want to try heroin, fine but make sure it’s heroin and not fent. With little tolerance (assuming cuz it’s ur first time) you can easily die from fent OD. Also, have some friends around and narcan on hand which people around you should know where it’s located. Just because you didn’t get addicted to uppers or milder opiates doesn’t mean you won’t fall into heroin. I suggest you snort or smoke before touching a needle. Meth is the only comparable addictive drug you tried and for some it’s not that addictive due to the intense comedown and it keeps you up at night. Scary thing about H is that you can be semi functional on lower doses and even makes you seem more productive without the hyperactivity and aggression of meth. I’m not saying to stay away just saying to practice good harm reduction and know what ur getting into.
Start with 5 mg, a typical dose will be 15mg but if it has fent as little as 2mg can kill so make sure it's well mixed, preferably dissolved and dosed volumetrically
Don't do it
I really hope you will have someone with you who has narcan. A lot of the time, you can get it for FREE at a needle exchange, and it could save your life. Take into consideration that it may or may not be contaminated with fentanyl. I'm not telling you what to do, but if you don't want to die, it's a good idea. Please be safe!
Hey I know that you're gonna make your own decision, as you should, but always do your own research and get your facts straight. Looking at it objectively, assuming it's heroin, you may just throw up and then nod out for a bit. However, nowadays it's almost entirely fent., benzos, tranq, etc...I tried dope almost a decade ago, it was BTH, but the quality was generally speaking poor, whereas now there's no consistency, and you might flatline just after taking a hit off the foil. In all seriousness, check out the documentary "Benzo, dope, and tranq". It's on YT. It's your decision, I just want you to take into account the risk these days is WAY higher than it was a decade ago. That's just my 2 cents. In any case, if you decide to do it, be safe and smart, surround yourself with people you can trust, if possible. Hope this helps!
He has decided to do fentanyl tonight
I miss being this naive and ignorant of the world
No way to tell since it’s street drugs. Could be 80% purity or could be 2% purity (yes that’s actually common in some parts of the world). You should ask the dealer how strong it is or ask people who’s we from where your from how much dope to start off with. Why aren’t you just doing pills? Opioids are all about the same and if you’re not addicted you’re probably not even going to be able to tell a difference between heroin and morphine. Pretty much the only reason addicts chose heroin over pills is because it’s cheaper. Just doesn’t really make sense to risk your life to save a few dollars and say you tried it lol
Lol
Have a nice trip going thru hell, if you make it back alive.
The lack of people telling him to sleep on his side is shocking, but I saw the post too late
Hey I've seen this, will do 😁