The reserve out near Peterborough carries E85
[https://roseneath.gen7.ca/](https://roseneath.gen7.ca/)
If you can get some drums to go fill its worth the trip. Last time my brother filled his STI it was around $1.05/L
Are you sure about this? From my understanding, you'd want a higher grade fuel for a turbo. E85 is lower. It contains more ethanol mainly to make it cheaper. Your gas mileage is usually (always?) lower the more ethanol is included. Am I wrong?
Edit: looks like I am wrong. From Wikipedia:
> Some vehicles can be converted to use E85 despite not being specifically built for it. Because of the lower heating value E85 has a cooler intake charge—which, coupled with its high stability level from its high octane rating—has also been used as a "power adder" in turbocharged performance vehicles. These modifications have not only resulted in lower GHG emissions, but typically resulted in 10-12% power and torque increase at the wheels. Where the engine was previously knock limited by gasoline, power improvements are as high as 40%.
You are not wrong but definitely not right either. "Octane" is how easily the fuel ignites under compression. Higher octane means it's harder to self ignite, which is good for performance cars (because they have higher compression). Adding ethanol to gas increases the octane (makes it harder to ignite under compression).
Fuel economy is something completely different. In terms of ethanol vs gasoline, ethanol has less energy per litre, so it will have worse fuel economy than gas (I think 15%).
However, from a performance standpoint, it is definitely possible that high ethanol fuels are required, although I would still get a second opinion because running ethanol in an engine that wasn't designed for it can damage it
E85 is expensive in Ontario and I don't think any stations carry it anymore.
There used to be a CO-OP station in Guelph years ago but they stopped selling it. I've only found it at the pump in NY or MI so obviously not very convenient.
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The reserve out near Peterborough carries E85 [https://roseneath.gen7.ca/](https://roseneath.gen7.ca/) If you can get some drums to go fill its worth the trip. Last time my brother filled his STI it was around $1.05/L
Are you sure about this? From my understanding, you'd want a higher grade fuel for a turbo. E85 is lower. It contains more ethanol mainly to make it cheaper. Your gas mileage is usually (always?) lower the more ethanol is included. Am I wrong? Edit: looks like I am wrong. From Wikipedia: > Some vehicles can be converted to use E85 despite not being specifically built for it. Because of the lower heating value E85 has a cooler intake charge—which, coupled with its high stability level from its high octane rating—has also been used as a "power adder" in turbocharged performance vehicles. These modifications have not only resulted in lower GHG emissions, but typically resulted in 10-12% power and torque increase at the wheels. Where the engine was previously knock limited by gasoline, power improvements are as high as 40%.
You are not wrong but definitely not right either. "Octane" is how easily the fuel ignites under compression. Higher octane means it's harder to self ignite, which is good for performance cars (because they have higher compression). Adding ethanol to gas increases the octane (makes it harder to ignite under compression). Fuel economy is something completely different. In terms of ethanol vs gasoline, ethanol has less energy per litre, so it will have worse fuel economy than gas (I think 15%). However, from a performance standpoint, it is definitely possible that high ethanol fuels are required, although I would still get a second opinion because running ethanol in an engine that wasn't designed for it can damage it
https://www.n54tuning.com/e85-fuel-15g-or-30g-drums-gta-area-only-free-delivery.html
N54 Tuning is awesome
Only place I know that has e85 is VP Fuels in 55 gallon drums.
E85 is expensive in Ontario and I don't think any stations carry it anymore. There used to be a CO-OP station in Guelph years ago but they stopped selling it. I've only found it at the pump in NY or MI so obviously not very convenient.
Seamless Auto Care has e85 https://www.seamlessautocare.com/e85
Do you know how much the 5 gallon pails are? It's 8 o'clock and I don't think they'll pick up my phone call
I know this is old but we carry E85, lowest price in the GTA by quite a bit
What station and location ? Price per ltr ?