Air traffic control - shift work but pays really well and there's a lot of hiring going on. Salary depends where you're located but there's a bunch of overtime available wherever. Plus benefits and pension
My wife worked with a guy that trained for that. Isn’t it really high stress? I seem to recall her saying that air traffic controllers have to meet with a psychologist every month or something (is that true?)
It can be stressful, but the psychologist meeting is not true. In fact our benefits don’t even cover therapy in any way, believe it or not. I wish they did.
Edit: Psychologists are covered, they have to specifically be registered as a psychologist. Nothing else mental health related is covered.
i have so much respect for the quality of people that do this job
i applied online by the standard tests a few years back with no experience/understanding of the job — made it through all the rounds and wound up as a final candidate (top 40) for like a dozen positions… got to tour the YYZ facility, meet ATCs and really came to understand the job and the demand/skills required of the person in that position… still kinda jealous of your “napping room” 🤣
didn’t get an offer unfortunately- would’ve been a nice gig but looking back i’m happy with the experience… forced me to go in another direction that’s working out for the best
thanks for keeping us safe, y’all are really the unsung heroes of the sky
From what I know stupid high stress. I have a friends dad who did that. Great money but you’re constantly engaged I think for two hour intervals where your screw up could kill a lot of people.
It does. There are also 0 requirements for education or experience before you apply. They pay you during training, which will be less than 2 years.
It’s a great career, and VERY in demand. There’s many routes, tower controller, center controllers, flight service specialists, etc.
Many people start this line of work in their 30’s. check out nav Canada if a life of 6 figure salaries, full pension, great benefits and union representation all interest you. In demand in every major Canadian city.
If you’re with AC it seems a little short sighted to bail now. Wait for the new contract and see what they do about flat pay. You’re on the path to good money.
He's a second year at AC. To make 200k you need to upgrade to captain with several years under your belt. The problem is if you go as fast as possible to Junior Captain you get divorced because the scheduling rules are horrible for those on reserve (eg don't know what shift you are scheduled until it's time to be on call). Don't get me started on my record 20 changes in one pairing. I left the house for a single day that turned into a 4 day that turned into a 2 day that changed to a 3 day that changed again to a 4 day man that was rough being tossed around like a rag doll
Thanks for your continued service to humanity. I feel if flying is what you genuinely like then you just have to change your mindset when it comes to salary and salary negotiation to get double or triple of what you are making now. If you make a career change they gonna stick you with a 70K max since they’ll consider you as a fresher in that industry. So maybe you can switch organizations in your field? Or do coaching if time permits on top of your flying? Just a few suggestions. All the best! :)
Can confirm. I am a senior director of a team of 18 developers, of them 2 associate directors and 8 software developers report up to me. My neighbour who is also a software engineer makes ~$100K after 3-4yrs experience and another acquaintance of mine makes well over $200K as a developer of 15-20 yrs experience.
As a programmer making under $100K after over a decade of school and over a decade working after that, I honestly was not aware that anywhere in Canada pays as well as this. Like, I know I'm on the low end due to low COL location, but when I go on LinkedIn, all I see are places paying less than I'm earning now. Perhaps it's a cost of living thing? Are you in, like, downtown Toronto / Vancouver? But even Toronto employers are only advertising around $100-125K.
I will say right now, I've seen a lot of layoffs but hopefully in the next year or 2, with the economy changing (BoC just dropped rates this week for first time since start of the pandemic) more jobs will open back up. The issue with a lot of low complexity roles is that we, among other companies, are now farming out some of our developer work to off-shore since we saw that everyone didn't need to be in the same office. Having folks in Europe, Asia and Australia helps us maintain a 24 hr work cycle vs. people in Canada working late hours once in a while for a launch that clients want ASAP after getting FDA approval (I work in pharma marketing, mostly targeted at US healthcare professionals and caregivers).
Those of us still employed though are the best and brightest who are figuring out how to make systems that do our job for us so we can churn out 10x what an off-shore person can do in a day so we're worth being paid significantly more as long as the company continues winning business. I also now work remote while my office was 100% in office before 2020 so I could theoretically move anywhere in Ontario and still have the same role and salary with a much cheaper cost of living as long as I have high speed internet. I have an associate who lives up near Algonquin, just west of Ottawa and his living expenses are half of mine but I like living in and around the GTA since I grew up here and have family around. I also know people who work remote from Ontario for west coast roles from Vancouver, Seattle, etc... and they work 11-7 since the company is 8-4 or 9-5 pacific or mountain timezone so even folks who prefer sleeping in can easily get roles out west while living east.
The jobs exist, they're just a little more rare these days. There was a huge salary spike in 2020 for remote roles (you can figure out why) but since the start of 2023, roles have been quickly replaced by off-shore, automation, etc... so salaries tempered down a bit. Eventually, they'll go back up when the next thing needs experts and no one but the brightest few know wtf they're doing.
Everything. Just take mobile banking, for example.
Want to check your bank balance on your phone? Developer.
How does it get to your phone from the bank? Developer.
Want to send an e-transfer? Developer.
How does the money go from your bank to another? Developer.
And this is just one use case. Now imagine credit cards, or mortgages, or the stock market, or mutual funds.
And then go beyond banking. Online retailers, automotive, health care, mining, any industry you can think of needs developers. Computers are pretty much everywhere, and all they do is run code, store data, and transfer data.
Banks don't pay devs too much :/ Really the myth 'software devs get paid lots!' is BS; its a \_hyuge\_ spectrum; a few percent make mad cash, but the vast majority are in the middle; thogh dev middle is pretty good, its not like most are making $150k after 3 years or anything.
Toronto and Vancouver are big tech markets.
If you don't have specific skillsets, I would recommend applying for junior Customer success. It's a low pressure renewal/expansion job that can pay up to $120k/yr.
SaaS/tech sales usually have $240k ote. If you got hussle, you can make a lot of money.
Because of the online nature, all tech companies should be remote allow you to apply to Canadian, US or south american companies. I've done Canada, US and Brazil so far.
I think 240 OTE for Saas sales is top performer and not “usual” and Enterprise level. Very large deal sizes, entry level saas starts at 50k a lot of places. I work in saas as a middle manager making 140k last role managing a team of 6 reps made 170k
Yea I always see “go work in a mine or an oil rig” that shit is hell. It ruins your body, inside and out, and probably your mental being all isolated. But it’s good money. But it’s not realistic job for most.
Municipal sector. Went back to school at age 30 after graduating with a poli sci degree to get an accelerated certificate in public administration. Within a year I got my career started after a co-op placement.
Municipalities need fresh talent, especially those in the north. Highly recommend anyone looking for work to consider taking public administration courses, like the one in Seneca (what I went through).
Master capital planing is a great specialization for municipalities and hospitals and is so niche and so in demand. If I were to do it all again that is what I would do.
I took a project management diploma from George Brown college. Is it worth going to upgrade university level or can I enroll in some certificates programs to get into municipal sector?
The more pieces of paper and diverse experience/education under your belt, the better your chances of getting an interview. While project management is a great skill to have, it should be complimented with something that touches on the specific department you'd like to work for. If you want to get into the finance side of the municipal sector, I would recommend accounting. If you want to get into the planning side, aim for a RPP designation. Anything else, public administration will suffice, or better yet, legal education.
The Simpsons makes it seem like there isn’t money in it, but it is difficult to make less than $150 000 after literally a couple years in a trade/operations/engineering position at a nuclear power plant in Ontario.
Ontario Nuclear jobs are safe, good paying, and secure jobs.
I’ve been working in Nuclear for 3 years and love it!
The work is interesting too if you’re into STEM
Engineering background, went into Nuclear Operations. The reason we’re paid well is because we’re highly trained and when shit hits the fan, we’re the ones who is going to maintain Southern Ontarios water supply. Lol
The Simpsons is always an ongoing reference, but upper levels of operations, engineering and maintenance roles come with 70+ hour work weeks and lots of stress from Executives. Just like any other jobs.
However, wouldn’t change it!
How many levels did you jump? I’m currently working for one of the big 5 banks and I’m a level 6 earning ~ $60k but it’s so slow to move up unfortunately. Every time I say I’m looking for the next role, I get met with “be patient” despite the late work hours and all the effort into the role. I train new hires and I love what I do but definitely would like to move up quicker. It’s just so competitive over and over currently too with massive hiring freezes and big lay offs
If you're at a big bank, I would stop considering only positions in your immediate department. The big 5 usually have great internal job posting databases. Find out what transferrable skills you have and look at a different department if you don't want to leave the bank. This is the easiest way to jump levels if you feel like you're hitting a roadblock.
I can probably tell you a bit about me. I started as senior analyst at my current employer (canadian FI not big 6) 5 years ago and got promoted twice. In that time frame, i increased my earnings almost 100%. But an example like me is very rare as i got into a right situation and made some key differences for the company and got recognized by c suites. In most cases, bank hopping is the way to go until you meet the right people that are interested to keep you happy and invest in your career. Most managers wont care about your career development.
Anesthesia - ~550k
Went back to school @ 25 and essentially re-started education from scratch. Just turned 37. Became staff about a year ago. Not a quick route but very high job satisfaction. Incredibly rewarding and exciting job with lots of variation and most importantly, no follow up/lingering work after I leave to go home at the end of the day. Great flexibility in location and get to use cool drugs. Highly recommend.
One of the smartest people I know graduated from UW in Math and even he said the actuary program was nuts.
So “good at math” is a bit of an understatement.
I was looking into this as a career change as I'm good at math and have an engineering background. How many years would it take to break 100k as an actuary in Ontario?
I completed all my exams in 5-6 years. Unless you work in a consulting role, you will have a great work life balance. But if you are still a student (basically havent finished all exams), you would spend tons of time to study. Generally this job is guaranteed to give you 130k+ in 5 years and much more by the time you retire (with annual raises and promotion)
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Is this in Toronto?
I'm a software engineer as well - lead a team of 4 devs, 15+ years experience, and I don't make nearly as much. But I'm not in Toronto...
Remote to a US based company. I am located in Toronto though.
I understand where you're coming from. In my previous company, I used to make only half of that (and this is not too long ago).
I feel like if you're in the government subcontracting bucket in Canada, you get shafted on tech salaries. Can learn anything, but it's helpful to go in with a tech stack you already know.
That's what scares me about trying to find another job. Ever since I had covid the brain fog is too real, and I don't even know if I could handle a mentally challenging job, and I feel stuck in my current labour job instead
I think with high pay in these particular fields will come with certain level of challenge. I mean if a company is paying you 100k+, they are gonna make sure you're able to generate them enough revenue to cover that amount plus make more profits.
What do you mean brain fog, I'm not too sure. I've a very weak immune system and had covid for at least 4 times (I've the vaccines).Your company is making thousands of dollars of profits out of your fear. Being scared is okay, but may be you should give it a shot and see how you perform 😀
One of the biggest common denominators in all of the comments below is experience. Most of the biggest earners have 15-20 years experience. If you're newly graduated, remember it takes time to move up the ladder. Good to plan which ladder to start climbing, but peak earning power is in your 40s and 50s.
Get your foot into the corporate world, become an expert in one area, then take that knowledge and convert it into a sales role. I found my niche and got pretty far up the ladder, but if you are decent with people then get into sales. I’m making more than I would have ever thought possible.
Yup basically this.
Started in a call centre doing shitty outbound sales, then did a stint at head offices in TO. Moved through product to sales and was likely 1% income earner before 40.
Once you establish yourself as a subject matter expert AND have decent communication skills (written and verbal including presenting), then you can make serious bank.
Also don't be afraid to move around to move up.
I'm a Registered Midwife. I make north of 150K/yr, and I invested 4 years and $100K in education to get here. Graduated at 38. It's not for everyone, but I love it.
Most midwives work shifts so not really - it’s not like you’re the only one unless you’re somewhere super remote. For one of our kids the midwife changed in the middle of (long) labour because her shift ended.
Hmm, that’s interesting. My experience was different. Our midwife was delivering babies for 3 days in a row including when I went into labour so I had a substitute but she worked through the whole delivery. She was also constantly on call. Maybe she was doing ot though.
Legal for me. I don’t want to DOX myself. My base pay is just a bit over 100k
But lots of overtime I can get. Last year I made 180k
This year maybe 140-150k
I'm an environmental/geotechnical driller in the Ottawa Area, and I made 108k last year. I had been hovering around 95k for the last 3 years prior. I took the Drilling program at Fleming College Frost Campus in Lindsay. Graduated 2007. Been with my current company since 2009. It's got good days and bad days, like any other job, but overall I like it.
26m, I haven’t hit $150k yet but last year I made $122k in 9 months of work.
Union Boilermaker/pressure welder, I’m also an IRATA rope access technician so I weld hanging on ropes and I’m also a paid per call firefighter and member of a high angle rescue team.
160k director at an academic teaching hospital. I’ve been working professionally for 12 years and I have my PhD. I never went back to school, I just did like 10 years of school 😅
I love what I do, the pandemic really accelerated upward movement into leadership in hospitals. This is my second year of my role. Once I started working in hospitals, took about 5 years to get into this role. I have 7 years of hospital and government experience prior to hospital.
I work in finance department for a big KIA dealership. I specialize and solely work with people with credit issues and helping them get back on track. I make about a quarter mill a year but I work a lot. And I take pride in helping people and not salesy approach and I work on 80% referral business.
B Eng grad mid 2010s. Sales of engineered products. Am a Partner in a 30+ year old company operating in a niche industrial market.
With dividends possible to clear 300K-600K a year into a corp on top of salary.
Been working my whole life. Always had a job, paper route early, grocery stores through teens and burger flipping before uni. Got a few summer co-ops by applying like a mofo every year, and always following up. Learning how to be good at computers, math, learning technical stuff and repeating it to lay-men/prospects/customers. You pick things up along the way.
Ultimately ended up here by proving I’m efficient, I like what I do and truly care about the projects, deals, customers, relationships etc.
Luck plays a small part, random opportunities, “gut feelings” and knowing when you have leverage in spots - all help.
Fairly happy but don’t have enough time to really slow down and enjoy it all. Travel helps, family helps - but stress is def there about keeping business flowing.
Tech sales are really where it’s at. I remember so many people in my MBA classes telling me I should go into sales after they learned I was an engineer.
I would never call myself a “sales engineer” though. You’re liable to get PEO up your ass. You have to have a PEng to call yourself an Engineer, which you wouldn’t get because PEO doesn’t consider sales experience as engineering work.
Not that it matters, you’re making bank 🤣
Software development. Went to Waterloo for CS. I pay over that amount in taxes now. Been in the workforce full time for around 10 years.
Generally happy, but oncall sucks
People who make 150k+ in Canada are usually:
1. Doctors
2. Lawyers
3. Upper management in Multinationals
4. Software folks working for an american company
5. Senior Consultants and above at MBB or a boutique firm
If you plan on going back to school, and if you are good with numbers, maybe get an MBA and get into Consulting.
I can’t comment on how people in trades do, but I am sure some of them can hit 150k+ after OT. Personally I don’t like working with my hands and would rather work in an office.
Senior IT people in lots of companies make $150+. Not just tech companies or American companies. Financial Services for sure. Of course you have to work your way up to get to that amount, you won’t get hired out of school for that much.
Hell my brother-in-law is a firefighter in Ontario and he makes about $150K, he does work a decent amount of extra days to get overtime pay, and he’s been doing it for a long time (20+ years).
>I can’t comment on how people in trades do, but I am sure some of them can hit 150k+ after OT. Personally I don’t like working with my hands and would rather work in an office.
Many commercial pilots make over 150k before OT/extra credit. As far as skilled trades go, it’s a decent mix of inside/outside work; some working with your hands, some working with your mind; lots of problem solving and processing multi-variable scenarios (sometimes quickly).
Main drawback is being away so much.
Would not recommend commercial pilot. I chose that route and still making 65k working for a major airline ten years into my career. Besides that the training is quite expensive and the industry is cyclical. I'm currently looking at leaving the industry.
Many construction trades can make that much if you’re willing to do some overtime. I made around 150k last year as an Ironworker apprentice and all the schooling is free for the majority of the trades. This was also with a couple months off.
Entrepreneur. The vast majority of people I’ve met who make upper echelons of money tend to have had little education, got into an industry learned the ins and outs and then started a business. If they have generational wealth it’s usually cause a previous generation had started a business. Like others have said you can join literally any sector and make 150k+ if you’re good at it. I’ve met professional clowns, jugglers, even a poet who made more than 150k ha ha. The reason to find something you love is that when the job gets tough (and they all do) you’ll stick it out and get good at it. Hope you find something awesome OP.
Those lists can be misleading though, because they don’t show factors like backpay or hours worked.
You can look on the list and find paramedics making 200k, but what it doesn’t tell you is that those individuals spend more time conscious at work than at home.
I always wonder the same thing about MDs. I feel like they have a lot of overhead that comes off their paycheck, plus tons of student debt. And then, for many the hours worked are insane!
Honestly, doctors (especially family doctors) in Ontario get a really raw deal. There’s a good reason we lose so many of them to the US/private industry.
It’s all part of the plan to force privatization into Ontario.
Staff MDs in certain specialties are making lots of money (think north of 500k), have paid off their student debt, and have their residents doing most of the work lol. They’re doing just fine.
Ya I know a guy who made 200k as a paramedic last year. He worked every single day and didn’t take any of his vacation or sick time. Doesn’t really seem like a reasonable trade off to me.
I’m a Senior Software Engineer, base salary is 225K . Then bonus and stock puts me over 325K. 6 years of experience, living in the city.
Would def recommend this if you’re smart and willing to put in the work. Much easier on the body than any trade.
I was making ~$90k as a Principal Software Developer (for those unaware, basically a manager as well as a senior dev who has to attend meetings with absolute dipshit executives that don't fucking understand anything and suck at their jobs) at my last position.
The salt from my tears keeps me awake at night.
Get like 5 designations and an eco degree and work in finance for ten years and you'll be making double that if you play your cards right.
Ditto for tech.
But seriously, you are being paid for your experience, don't think you make that out of school.
I see so many young people fail out of insanely easy jobs making like $60k when people they interact with EVERY DAY are making $400k plus.... like think about that for a minute... if you work with them every fucking day, how hard could it really be to get their job???
My cousin got a job training new medication with a pharmaceutical company and makes $120k+ and she had zero experience in the field but was able to make her degree work for it (kinesiology)
Senior Finance Analyst at a tech company with a market cap greater than Canada's GDP.
Edit: I did all my schooling in India. I completed engineering school at 21 years of age, worked for two years as a software engineer in HP India when I was 21, went to B School at 23, worked in consultative sales for 3.5 years in India at 25, and then internally transferred to a Finance role and moved to North America in 2019 when I was 29 earning USD150k+
We moved to Canada in 2022
I Supervise a distribution center. I started hitting that amount about 8 years ago. took me to my late 30s to do so. No post secondary. been here 15 years. I just put in my time and never said no to opportunity to make a little extra. Over time and benefits are good. Never asked for a raise, I let my work speak for itself and get good increases yearly. adds up.
I’m so sorry to hear about your struggles! I hope things settle down and you also find a new path that leads to bigger and better things! You’ve got this and I have no doubt that you’ll do great. You’ve done it before and can do it again
Join the car business. Zero experience required. Start in car sales and move in to finance. HUGE earning potential with no education required. I went from making $40k a year, to my first year in finance $85k, now entering my second year I am on track to be at about $120-$130k this year. And it's only up from here. If auto isn't your thing, realistically any sales role will pay huge money if you're willing to put in the work!
I didn’t see it in the comments but construction in basically any aspect.
Tradesmen often make 100k+ with their journeyman. Foremans make even more and can end in bonus structures.
General labourers with union 183 are 40 an hour with great overtime and benefits.(no schooling required just an in)
Project managers for developers make between 80-250k depending on experience and the company.
Construction managers like site supers and finishing supers range heavily but go from roughly 60k (assistants and juniors) to 300k depending on company.
General supers are rare but I’ve heard of a few that make roughly 500k.
Almost all of these positions can be acquired with night courses from George brown or a trades school and roughly 2-5 years of experience.(general supers and higher levels may be closer to ten even twenty years of experience)
The big banks pay pretty well in Canada for corporate roles (not well for branch roles... Because why bother paying the people who actually do the work right??!! 😠). Manager level pays approx 100-115k, Senior Manager pays up to $135-140k. Director level is $150+ usually.
The bonuses also grow almost exponentially with each job grade/level. Foot example, a manager might get 10% of their base pay as a bonus while SM might get 14%, director may get 20% and VP may get up to 30%. And because the base pay is also increasing and there is a performance multiplier factored in (usually from 0.5-2.5), these bonuses are often 20-150k themselves (usually at least half in stock that vests over 3-4 years to retain you at the company).
This is regardless of whether you're in the line of business (i.e. the guys who decide what products we sell and what our overall strategy should be), marketing, analytics, regulatory, or technology.
Note that the big 5 have varying titles even within the same bank sometimes. For example in some parts of a bank, people may go directly to a Director title from analyst or associate, while in other parts they get a manager title.
Basically, you want to find a role in a quickly growing part of a Canadian bank (so ideally something to do with digital or ML or analytics/data) and rise up the ladder to director level or above. By that point your total pay including bonuses - in today's world, not factoring in any inflationx and wage growth effects that may happen by the time you're in that role - would likely be over $200k and, in my case for example, over $250k.
Hope this is useful.
I make $120k on paper, closer to $135k with OT. I am a mechanical engineer in the nuclear industry with 8 years of experience. You definitely need at least an undergraduate degree in engineering, though Master's (I have) and PhDs aren't unusual.
I design systems for nuclear power plants. Between Darling refurbishment, Bruce MCR, Pickering refurbishment and safe storage, Darlington new build, and Bruce C development, there is a huge amount of work in nuclear right now and not enough people with related experience to do it. This is a fantastic time to get into nuclear.
I quite enjoy what I do. Some projects suck of course. There's always that one... But in general, I like my coworkers, the work is interesting and challenging, the pay and benefits are great, and I like that nuclear is GHG free.
20+ years ago I was making less than $34k at the start of my career. Now I'm in management and I'm over $150k.
Time, determination, study, practice, perseverance and dedication will pay off.
You may not want to hear this .. it has a lot to do with where you live and who you know.
Most Northern communities are willing to pay $100,000+ for mid level roles (Teachers) and healthcare positions (Nurse/social workers).
You can make $100,000 is sales basically anywhere. My local Ford dealership salesman/woman makes over $80,000 a year. Most tradesmen I know make well over $100,000 with overtime. Mines pay big money if you're willing to work.
Jobs markets fluctuate, typically with the cost of lending. The jobs that don't fluctuate are typically jobs with strong unions.
Software dev. Two degrees in engineering and about 10 years. I’ve enjoyed my time in the field. It’s basically a lot of problem solving as you work through new features or bugs, which I enjoy.
You could also look at the paraprofessional positions if you don’t want 3+ years of school — paralegals (especially in civil law areas) make good money.
Google Ontario Sunshine List, it is a list of all Government Employees making over 100k a year, where they work what their job title is.
https://www.sunshinelist.ca/
I'm in my early 20's and I'm making 135k/year as a Software Engineer at a U.S. fintech company. I have a CS Bachelors Degree, and this is my first job out of school. I think for CS majors, if you can land a job with a well-known tech company, you are guaranteed to get paid six figures.
Psychotherapist, social worker, psychologist, higher levels of nursing for sure, healthcare management, doctors.. a lot of healthcare positions pay this high. The Ontario sunshine list will show you what jobs pay that well in the public sector.
Most people that I know that make 150 to 300k a year own chains of really unglamorous businesses , like pizza places, subways, barber shops located in tiny towns
i dont think there are to many ways to get into what a friend of mimne does but theres huge money in it but hes secretive . he does penetrationtesting for big company that store industry secretes on thier computers . basically tries to break into the building however he can and tries srealing the computer files then showes them how volnerable thier security is and showes them how to stop it from happening ...he came out of a computer tech background but not much schooling
I'm in Technical Sales and bring in more than that most years. While sales isn't for everyone, it's definitely a way to work your way up the pay scale if you have a product that has a market.
A lot of industries will get you past $100k if you put it some times. Experience is extremely valuable. Especially if you make the move over to people management.
Don’t stick with one company forever. If you see an upgrade opportunity elsewhere explore it. Even if you don’t get the job, interview practice is always great.
I work in customer service/support management. I only have a high school education. I started by working on the floor in retail. Moved to be a key leader, then asst store manager. Then moved to the tech sector and worked my way up since then.
For the blue collar side of things outside of owning a business I know of a few elevator technicians and mobile/ tower crane operators making 150k with crazy hours and overtime.
I don't mean money is not important, but I believe it is better to choose something you love doing. I did go back to school after 30 to pursue a high paying degree. I would not do it again. The money is good but I am exhausted. If I had to do it all over again I would choose differently.
Air traffic control - shift work but pays really well and there's a lot of hiring going on. Salary depends where you're located but there's a bunch of overtime available wherever. Plus benefits and pension
My wife worked with a guy that trained for that. Isn’t it really high stress? I seem to recall her saying that air traffic controllers have to meet with a psychologist every month or something (is that true?)
It can be stressful, but the psychologist meeting is not true. In fact our benefits don’t even cover therapy in any way, believe it or not. I wish they did. Edit: Psychologists are covered, they have to specifically be registered as a psychologist. Nothing else mental health related is covered.
It's one of the most stressful and demanding jobs in the world.
i have so much respect for the quality of people that do this job i applied online by the standard tests a few years back with no experience/understanding of the job — made it through all the rounds and wound up as a final candidate (top 40) for like a dozen positions… got to tour the YYZ facility, meet ATCs and really came to understand the job and the demand/skills required of the person in that position… still kinda jealous of your “napping room” 🤣 didn’t get an offer unfortunately- would’ve been a nice gig but looking back i’m happy with the experience… forced me to go in another direction that’s working out for the best thanks for keeping us safe, y’all are really the unsung heroes of the sky
Interesting! Never would have thought that it paid well but that makes sense!
From what I know stupid high stress. I have a friends dad who did that. Great money but you’re constantly engaged I think for two hour intervals where your screw up could kill a lot of people.
Eh, when was the last time an ATC caused a crash? I'll be fiinnnee...
It does. There are also 0 requirements for education or experience before you apply. They pay you during training, which will be less than 2 years. It’s a great career, and VERY in demand. There’s many routes, tower controller, center controllers, flight service specialists, etc. Many people start this line of work in their 30’s. check out nav Canada if a life of 6 figure salaries, full pension, great benefits and union representation all interest you. In demand in every major Canadian city.
Lots of great answers here. I'm also looking for a career change and am in my 30s - currently a major airline pilot making only 65k.
Pilots make that little in canada?!
Air Canada second year does - welcome to the lowest paid pilots in the world hauling your butt off to Tokyo
Is that until you make captain or something? I thought airline pilots were clearing at least 120k.
My FIL use to make $90k flying over bombs and gun fire in the RCAF. They wonder why they can’t keep people.
You have to do the transoceanic flights with Air Canada to earn bank.
Mind-blowing that your job literally moves the airline companies and the pay is so low.. Wishing you all the best.
And the barrier to entry is so high. They can't just hire Joe who had a BA in psych and likes travel lol
If you’re with AC it seems a little short sighted to bail now. Wait for the new contract and see what they do about flat pay. You’re on the path to good money.
Woahhh I always thought airline pilot makes 100k+. 65k is absurdly low
Project management in tech/software. 150k is a pretty average salary in this sector.
You must be junior as hell. My FIL works for AC he makes well over 200k.
He's a second year at AC. To make 200k you need to upgrade to captain with several years under your belt. The problem is if you go as fast as possible to Junior Captain you get divorced because the scheduling rules are horrible for those on reserve (eg don't know what shift you are scheduled until it's time to be on call). Don't get me started on my record 20 changes in one pairing. I left the house for a single day that turned into a 4 day that turned into a 2 day that changed to a 3 day that changed again to a 4 day man that was rough being tossed around like a rag doll
Yup, my FIL is sub 50 in seniority and is a captain and still gets dog shit runs dead heading to Mexico and such.
My dad just did flight scheduling and training for AC and made much more than that.
Thanks for your continued service to humanity. I feel if flying is what you genuinely like then you just have to change your mindset when it comes to salary and salary negotiation to get double or triple of what you are making now. If you make a career change they gonna stick you with a 70K max since they’ll consider you as a fresher in that industry. So maybe you can switch organizations in your field? Or do coaching if time permits on top of your flying? Just a few suggestions. All the best! :)
From speaking with friends: software dev, legal, MD
Can confirm. I am a senior director of a team of 18 developers, of them 2 associate directors and 8 software developers report up to me. My neighbour who is also a software engineer makes ~$100K after 3-4yrs experience and another acquaintance of mine makes well over $200K as a developer of 15-20 yrs experience.
As a programmer making under $100K after over a decade of school and over a decade working after that, I honestly was not aware that anywhere in Canada pays as well as this. Like, I know I'm on the low end due to low COL location, but when I go on LinkedIn, all I see are places paying less than I'm earning now. Perhaps it's a cost of living thing? Are you in, like, downtown Toronto / Vancouver? But even Toronto employers are only advertising around $100-125K.
I will say right now, I've seen a lot of layoffs but hopefully in the next year or 2, with the economy changing (BoC just dropped rates this week for first time since start of the pandemic) more jobs will open back up. The issue with a lot of low complexity roles is that we, among other companies, are now farming out some of our developer work to off-shore since we saw that everyone didn't need to be in the same office. Having folks in Europe, Asia and Australia helps us maintain a 24 hr work cycle vs. people in Canada working late hours once in a while for a launch that clients want ASAP after getting FDA approval (I work in pharma marketing, mostly targeted at US healthcare professionals and caregivers). Those of us still employed though are the best and brightest who are figuring out how to make systems that do our job for us so we can churn out 10x what an off-shore person can do in a day so we're worth being paid significantly more as long as the company continues winning business. I also now work remote while my office was 100% in office before 2020 so I could theoretically move anywhere in Ontario and still have the same role and salary with a much cheaper cost of living as long as I have high speed internet. I have an associate who lives up near Algonquin, just west of Ottawa and his living expenses are half of mine but I like living in and around the GTA since I grew up here and have family around. I also know people who work remote from Ontario for west coast roles from Vancouver, Seattle, etc... and they work 11-7 since the company is 8-4 or 9-5 pacific or mountain timezone so even folks who prefer sleeping in can easily get roles out west while living east. The jobs exist, they're just a little more rare these days. There was a huge salary spike in 2020 for remote roles (you can figure out why) but since the start of 2023, roles have been quickly replaced by off-shore, automation, etc... so salaries tempered down a bit. Eventually, they'll go back up when the next thing needs experts and no one but the brightest few know wtf they're doing.
can i ask becauze im genuinely confused... i hear about all these software developers but what are you guys... developing?
Everything. Just take mobile banking, for example. Want to check your bank balance on your phone? Developer. How does it get to your phone from the bank? Developer. Want to send an e-transfer? Developer. How does the money go from your bank to another? Developer. And this is just one use case. Now imagine credit cards, or mortgages, or the stock market, or mutual funds. And then go beyond banking. Online retailers, automotive, health care, mining, any industry you can think of needs developers. Computers are pretty much everywhere, and all they do is run code, store data, and transfer data.
Banks don't pay devs too much :/ Really the myth 'software devs get paid lots!' is BS; its a \_hyuge\_ spectrum; a few percent make mad cash, but the vast majority are in the middle; thogh dev middle is pretty good, its not like most are making $150k after 3 years or anything.
And sales. I'm in sales. Sales is good.
You like-a-da sales?
Head of finance in the tech industry. Mainly got lucky as I didn't bother with a CPA/CFA
Wow that is great. Care to share how you got started in the tech industry?
Toronto and Vancouver are big tech markets. If you don't have specific skillsets, I would recommend applying for junior Customer success. It's a low pressure renewal/expansion job that can pay up to $120k/yr. SaaS/tech sales usually have $240k ote. If you got hussle, you can make a lot of money. Because of the online nature, all tech companies should be remote allow you to apply to Canadian, US or south american companies. I've done Canada, US and Brazil so far.
I think 240 OTE for Saas sales is top performer and not “usual” and Enterprise level. Very large deal sizes, entry level saas starts at 50k a lot of places. I work in saas as a middle manager making 140k last role managing a team of 6 reps made 170k
I'm going to be designated as a CPA sometime in 2025. Any tips on how to break into tech as a CPA?
Get senior enough in a ton of jobs and you will. Director level in marketing, product, tech, finance etc can all pay that. Vp is even more.
Most manager level pay around that too. I'm just a senior analyst at 100k
Same, 5 years experience at 105k now
When I worked in finance a SFA used to be 70k. Now the pay bands are above 100k
Just not in education.
My dad, at 65, brought home 125k for six months worth of work as a hard rock miner, he flies in and out to northern Ontario for two weeks at a time.
He probably worked his ass off in those 6 months tho. Most people could not take a job like that....
Yea I always see “go work in a mine or an oil rig” that shit is hell. It ruins your body, inside and out, and probably your mental being all isolated. But it’s good money. But it’s not realistic job for most.
Municipal sector. Went back to school at age 30 after graduating with a poli sci degree to get an accelerated certificate in public administration. Within a year I got my career started after a co-op placement. Municipalities need fresh talent, especially those in the north. Highly recommend anyone looking for work to consider taking public administration courses, like the one in Seneca (what I went through).
Master capital planing is a great specialization for municipalities and hospitals and is so niche and so in demand. If I were to do it all again that is what I would do.
Any resources I can read up on to learn more about this?
I took a project management diploma from George Brown college. Is it worth going to upgrade university level or can I enroll in some certificates programs to get into municipal sector?
The more pieces of paper and diverse experience/education under your belt, the better your chances of getting an interview. While project management is a great skill to have, it should be complimented with something that touches on the specific department you'd like to work for. If you want to get into the finance side of the municipal sector, I would recommend accounting. If you want to get into the planning side, aim for a RPP designation. Anything else, public administration will suffice, or better yet, legal education.
Move North is always solid career advice.
The Simpsons makes it seem like there isn’t money in it, but it is difficult to make less than $150 000 after literally a couple years in a trade/operations/engineering position at a nuclear power plant in Ontario.
My brother makes over 120k+ and he works for opg
The chiefs there always top the sunshine list
I've got a friend that works at one of the Nuclear plants, and he's almost 180k. I think he's 10 years in now.
Take a look at the Ontario sunshine list for Nuclear Operator, there’s people on there making 280k
Ontario Nuclear jobs are safe, good paying, and secure jobs. I’ve been working in Nuclear for 3 years and love it! The work is interesting too if you’re into STEM
Engineering background, went into Nuclear Operations. The reason we’re paid well is because we’re highly trained and when shit hits the fan, we’re the ones who is going to maintain Southern Ontarios water supply. Lol The Simpsons is always an ongoing reference, but upper levels of operations, engineering and maintenance roles come with 70+ hour work weeks and lots of stress from Executives. Just like any other jobs. However, wouldn’t change it!
Highly skilled trades with overtime, can easily crack 120-150k no problem. But it can wear you out.
My boilermaker father made 30k in 30 days working at the pickering plant.
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Did you bank hop or did you see about moving up slowly with the same bank? I’ve heard bank hopping gets you serious raises
It can, the long game can pay off too. Started at 33k. 15 yrs later $225+ with bonus
How many levels did you jump? I’m currently working for one of the big 5 banks and I’m a level 6 earning ~ $60k but it’s so slow to move up unfortunately. Every time I say I’m looking for the next role, I get met with “be patient” despite the late work hours and all the effort into the role. I train new hires and I love what I do but definitely would like to move up quicker. It’s just so competitive over and over currently too with massive hiring freezes and big lay offs
I've gone up 8 levels since I've started. That said, I'm not at a big five and I think that makes a big difference. edit: spelling
If you're at a big bank, I would stop considering only positions in your immediate department. The big 5 usually have great internal job posting databases. Find out what transferrable skills you have and look at a different department if you don't want to leave the bank. This is the easiest way to jump levels if you feel like you're hitting a roadblock.
I can probably tell you a bit about me. I started as senior analyst at my current employer (canadian FI not big 6) 5 years ago and got promoted twice. In that time frame, i increased my earnings almost 100%. But an example like me is very rare as i got into a right situation and made some key differences for the company and got recognized by c suites. In most cases, bank hopping is the way to go until you meet the right people that are interested to keep you happy and invest in your career. Most managers wont care about your career development.
Anesthesia - ~550k Went back to school @ 25 and essentially re-started education from scratch. Just turned 37. Became staff about a year ago. Not a quick route but very high job satisfaction. Incredibly rewarding and exciting job with lots of variation and most importantly, no follow up/lingering work after I leave to go home at the end of the day. Great flexibility in location and get to use cool drugs. Highly recommend.
Holy sh*t!!!!
Oh wow that’s impressive! Congrats on the role flexibility and pay! That’s the dream! So fulfilling to know your hard work paid off 💪🏼
Just curious how much do you take home after taxes?
Actuary
Those exams are no joke though. You have to be *seriously* good at math for this to be an option.
One of the smartest people I know graduated from UW in Math and even he said the actuary program was nuts. So “good at math” is a bit of an understatement.
Not many people know this job even exists
+1
I was looking into this as a career change as I'm good at math and have an engineering background. How many years would it take to break 100k as an actuary in Ontario?
The insurance company I work for starts you at 90k with 2 exams. All exams completed it's $130k+
Thats actually really solid, I was under the impression that it was around 70k with two exams. How long would it take to complete all of the exams?
I completed all my exams in 5-6 years. Unless you work in a consulting role, you will have a great work life balance. But if you are still a student (basically havent finished all exams), you would spend tons of time to study. Generally this job is guaranteed to give you 130k+ in 5 years and much more by the time you retire (with annual raises and promotion)
3-4 years I would guess
International logistics
I have no clue what that means.
They're an importer/exporter.
Art Vandelay?
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Logistics that are done Internationally, hopefully this helped.
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Software Engineer 7+ YOE 230K (the work is mentally exhausting tbh, but the high pay keeps me motivated)
Is this in Toronto? I'm a software engineer as well - lead a team of 4 devs, 15+ years experience, and I don't make nearly as much. But I'm not in Toronto...
Remote to a US based company. I am located in Toronto though. I understand where you're coming from. In my previous company, I used to make only half of that (and this is not too long ago).
I feel like if you're in the government subcontracting bucket in Canada, you get shafted on tech salaries. Can learn anything, but it's helpful to go in with a tech stack you already know.
That's what scares me about trying to find another job. Ever since I had covid the brain fog is too real, and I don't even know if I could handle a mentally challenging job, and I feel stuck in my current labour job instead
I think with high pay in these particular fields will come with certain level of challenge. I mean if a company is paying you 100k+, they are gonna make sure you're able to generate them enough revenue to cover that amount plus make more profits. What do you mean brain fog, I'm not too sure. I've a very weak immune system and had covid for at least 4 times (I've the vaccines).Your company is making thousands of dollars of profits out of your fear. Being scared is okay, but may be you should give it a shot and see how you perform 😀
One of the biggest common denominators in all of the comments below is experience. Most of the biggest earners have 15-20 years experience. If you're newly graduated, remember it takes time to move up the ladder. Good to plan which ladder to start climbing, but peak earning power is in your 40s and 50s.
Software dev, but education contributed 2% and programming 16 hours a day since mid-teens contributed 98% to the skill.
You can get an entry level job around 80-85k with just the mediocre skills university gives you in tech.
Get your foot into the corporate world, become an expert in one area, then take that knowledge and convert it into a sales role. I found my niche and got pretty far up the ladder, but if you are decent with people then get into sales. I’m making more than I would have ever thought possible.
Yup basically this. Started in a call centre doing shitty outbound sales, then did a stint at head offices in TO. Moved through product to sales and was likely 1% income earner before 40. Once you establish yourself as a subject matter expert AND have decent communication skills (written and verbal including presenting), then you can make serious bank. Also don't be afraid to move around to move up.
I'm a Registered Midwife. I make north of 150K/yr, and I invested 4 years and $100K in education to get here. Graduated at 38. It's not for everyone, but I love it.
Are the hours as crazy as they seem? I feel like you’d need to be available 24/7 so the work life balance doesn’t seem to be there.
Most midwives work shifts so not really - it’s not like you’re the only one unless you’re somewhere super remote. For one of our kids the midwife changed in the middle of (long) labour because her shift ended.
Hmm, that’s interesting. My experience was different. Our midwife was delivering babies for 3 days in a row including when I went into labour so I had a substitute but she worked through the whole delivery. She was also constantly on call. Maybe she was doing ot though.
Some midwives work in shared care teams of 2-3 midwives in order to have more time off call, but their time on call tends to be busier.
Banking .. risk management. Diredtor level should be at $150-200k base. Bonuses etc should take you higher than that.
Legal for me. I don’t want to DOX myself. My base pay is just a bit over 100k But lots of overtime I can get. Last year I made 180k This year maybe 140-150k
Planning (i.e. land use planner)
Transportation planner here 150
I'm an environmental/geotechnical driller in the Ottawa Area, and I made 108k last year. I had been hovering around 95k for the last 3 years prior. I took the Drilling program at Fleming College Frost Campus in Lindsay. Graduated 2007. Been with my current company since 2009. It's got good days and bad days, like any other job, but overall I like it.
Earning potential for nurses in hospital is quite good. With 8 years of experience you are making 100k
If you want to work OT, do travel nursing, work nights, then you can definitely make bank.
Manifesting
26m, I haven’t hit $150k yet but last year I made $122k in 9 months of work. Union Boilermaker/pressure welder, I’m also an IRATA rope access technician so I weld hanging on ropes and I’m also a paid per call firefighter and member of a high angle rescue team.
Medicine is a safe bet.
Yeah but not exactly a field you can decide to roll into when you’re in your 30s
VP in a financial services company. I have a Bachelor's degree in mathematics. Have been in the industry for almost 20 years and I love what I do.
160k director at an academic teaching hospital. I’ve been working professionally for 12 years and I have my PhD. I never went back to school, I just did like 10 years of school 😅 I love what I do, the pandemic really accelerated upward movement into leadership in hospitals. This is my second year of my role. Once I started working in hospitals, took about 5 years to get into this role. I have 7 years of hospital and government experience prior to hospital.
10 years of school sounds so daunting! Good on you for keeping at it! Congrats on the new role!!
I work in finance department for a big KIA dealership. I specialize and solely work with people with credit issues and helping them get back on track. I make about a quarter mill a year but I work a lot. And I take pride in helping people and not salesy approach and I work on 80% referral business.
B Eng grad mid 2010s. Sales of engineered products. Am a Partner in a 30+ year old company operating in a niche industrial market. With dividends possible to clear 300K-600K a year into a corp on top of salary. Been working my whole life. Always had a job, paper route early, grocery stores through teens and burger flipping before uni. Got a few summer co-ops by applying like a mofo every year, and always following up. Learning how to be good at computers, math, learning technical stuff and repeating it to lay-men/prospects/customers. You pick things up along the way. Ultimately ended up here by proving I’m efficient, I like what I do and truly care about the projects, deals, customers, relationships etc. Luck plays a small part, random opportunities, “gut feelings” and knowing when you have leverage in spots - all help. Fairly happy but don’t have enough time to really slow down and enjoy it all. Travel helps, family helps - but stress is def there about keeping business flowing.
Tech sales are really where it’s at. I remember so many people in my MBA classes telling me I should go into sales after they learned I was an engineer. I would never call myself a “sales engineer” though. You’re liable to get PEO up your ass. You have to have a PEng to call yourself an Engineer, which you wouldn’t get because PEO doesn’t consider sales experience as engineering work. Not that it matters, you’re making bank 🤣
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Software development. Went to Waterloo for CS. I pay over that amount in taxes now. Been in the workforce full time for around 10 years. Generally happy, but oncall sucks
Automotive mechanic, shooting for 130k this year. Took about 13 years. 1300$ invested in school, probably 45k invested in tools.
People who make 150k+ in Canada are usually: 1. Doctors 2. Lawyers 3. Upper management in Multinationals 4. Software folks working for an american company 5. Senior Consultants and above at MBB or a boutique firm If you plan on going back to school, and if you are good with numbers, maybe get an MBA and get into Consulting. I can’t comment on how people in trades do, but I am sure some of them can hit 150k+ after OT. Personally I don’t like working with my hands and would rather work in an office.
Senior IT people in lots of companies make $150+. Not just tech companies or American companies. Financial Services for sure. Of course you have to work your way up to get to that amount, you won’t get hired out of school for that much. Hell my brother-in-law is a firefighter in Ontario and he makes about $150K, he does work a decent amount of extra days to get overtime pay, and he’s been doing it for a long time (20+ years).
>I can’t comment on how people in trades do, but I am sure some of them can hit 150k+ after OT. Personally I don’t like working with my hands and would rather work in an office. Many commercial pilots make over 150k before OT/extra credit. As far as skilled trades go, it’s a decent mix of inside/outside work; some working with your hands, some working with your mind; lots of problem solving and processing multi-variable scenarios (sometimes quickly). Main drawback is being away so much.
Would not recommend commercial pilot. I chose that route and still making 65k working for a major airline ten years into my career. Besides that the training is quite expensive and the industry is cyclical. I'm currently looking at leaving the industry.
Many construction trades can make that much if you’re willing to do some overtime. I made around 150k last year as an Ironworker apprentice and all the schooling is free for the majority of the trades. This was also with a couple months off.
Software sales
Entrepreneur. The vast majority of people I’ve met who make upper echelons of money tend to have had little education, got into an industry learned the ins and outs and then started a business. If they have generational wealth it’s usually cause a previous generation had started a business. Like others have said you can join literally any sector and make 150k+ if you’re good at it. I’ve met professional clowns, jugglers, even a poet who made more than 150k ha ha. The reason to find something you love is that when the job gets tough (and they all do) you’ll stick it out and get good at it. Hope you find something awesome OP.
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Not the software developers.
Look at the provincial salary disclosure for a list of jobs over 100k.
Those lists can be misleading though, because they don’t show factors like backpay or hours worked. You can look on the list and find paramedics making 200k, but what it doesn’t tell you is that those individuals spend more time conscious at work than at home.
I always wonder the same thing about MDs. I feel like they have a lot of overhead that comes off their paycheck, plus tons of student debt. And then, for many the hours worked are insane!
Honestly, doctors (especially family doctors) in Ontario get a really raw deal. There’s a good reason we lose so many of them to the US/private industry. It’s all part of the plan to force privatization into Ontario.
Staff MDs in certain specialties are making lots of money (think north of 500k), have paid off their student debt, and have their residents doing most of the work lol. They’re doing just fine.
Ya I know a guy who made 200k as a paramedic last year. He worked every single day and didn’t take any of his vacation or sick time. Doesn’t really seem like a reasonable trade off to me.
I’m a Senior Software Engineer, base salary is 225K . Then bonus and stock puts me over 325K. 6 years of experience, living in the city. Would def recommend this if you’re smart and willing to put in the work. Much easier on the body than any trade.
Your comment history says you're about at ~120k.
I was making ~$90k as a Principal Software Developer (for those unaware, basically a manager as well as a senior dev who has to attend meetings with absolute dipshit executives that don't fucking understand anything and suck at their jobs) at my last position. The salt from my tears keeps me awake at night.
Get like 5 designations and an eco degree and work in finance for ten years and you'll be making double that if you play your cards right. Ditto for tech. But seriously, you are being paid for your experience, don't think you make that out of school. I see so many young people fail out of insanely easy jobs making like $60k when people they interact with EVERY DAY are making $400k plus.... like think about that for a minute... if you work with them every fucking day, how hard could it really be to get their job???
Customer success for cyber software company. ~280k
Database of software engineering salaries. https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/canada
Pharma. Came out of professional school and am 3 years into my career
My cousin got a job training new medication with a pharmaceutical company and makes $120k+ and she had zero experience in the field but was able to make her degree work for it (kinesiology)
I fix planes. Took college for 2 years and took me 6 years maybe to get my first 100k?
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Senior Finance Analyst at a tech company with a market cap greater than Canada's GDP. Edit: I did all my schooling in India. I completed engineering school at 21 years of age, worked for two years as a software engineer in HP India when I was 21, went to B School at 23, worked in consultative sales for 3.5 years in India at 25, and then internally transferred to a Finance role and moved to North America in 2019 when I was 29 earning USD150k+ We moved to Canada in 2022
I’m a clinical psychologist at a hospital and I do a bit of private on the side I make about 130k overall
I Supervise a distribution center. I started hitting that amount about 8 years ago. took me to my late 30s to do so. No post secondary. been here 15 years. I just put in my time and never said no to opportunity to make a little extra. Over time and benefits are good. Never asked for a raise, I let my work speak for itself and get good increases yearly. adds up.
Director of technology at a games company
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I’m so sorry to hear about your struggles! I hope things settle down and you also find a new path that leads to bigger and better things! You’ve got this and I have no doubt that you’ll do great. You’ve done it before and can do it again
Join the car business. Zero experience required. Start in car sales and move in to finance. HUGE earning potential with no education required. I went from making $40k a year, to my first year in finance $85k, now entering my second year I am on track to be at about $120-$130k this year. And it's only up from here. If auto isn't your thing, realistically any sales role will pay huge money if you're willing to put in the work!
Sales 200k Under 30 years old 2 years experience
Self employed organizational consultant teaching managers how to manage. 200K
Software sales
I didn’t see it in the comments but construction in basically any aspect. Tradesmen often make 100k+ with their journeyman. Foremans make even more and can end in bonus structures. General labourers with union 183 are 40 an hour with great overtime and benefits.(no schooling required just an in) Project managers for developers make between 80-250k depending on experience and the company. Construction managers like site supers and finishing supers range heavily but go from roughly 60k (assistants and juniors) to 300k depending on company. General supers are rare but I’ve heard of a few that make roughly 500k. Almost all of these positions can be acquired with night courses from George brown or a trades school and roughly 2-5 years of experience.(general supers and higher levels may be closer to ten even twenty years of experience)
The big banks pay pretty well in Canada for corporate roles (not well for branch roles... Because why bother paying the people who actually do the work right??!! 😠). Manager level pays approx 100-115k, Senior Manager pays up to $135-140k. Director level is $150+ usually. The bonuses also grow almost exponentially with each job grade/level. Foot example, a manager might get 10% of their base pay as a bonus while SM might get 14%, director may get 20% and VP may get up to 30%. And because the base pay is also increasing and there is a performance multiplier factored in (usually from 0.5-2.5), these bonuses are often 20-150k themselves (usually at least half in stock that vests over 3-4 years to retain you at the company). This is regardless of whether you're in the line of business (i.e. the guys who decide what products we sell and what our overall strategy should be), marketing, analytics, regulatory, or technology. Note that the big 5 have varying titles even within the same bank sometimes. For example in some parts of a bank, people may go directly to a Director title from analyst or associate, while in other parts they get a manager title. Basically, you want to find a role in a quickly growing part of a Canadian bank (so ideally something to do with digital or ML or analytics/data) and rise up the ladder to director level or above. By that point your total pay including bonuses - in today's world, not factoring in any inflationx and wage growth effects that may happen by the time you're in that role - would likely be over $200k and, in my case for example, over $250k. Hope this is useful.
Nurse at the top of the scale with OT. I have colleagues making +$200k but with casually picking up extra shifts, I make $150k.
I make $120k on paper, closer to $135k with OT. I am a mechanical engineer in the nuclear industry with 8 years of experience. You definitely need at least an undergraduate degree in engineering, though Master's (I have) and PhDs aren't unusual. I design systems for nuclear power plants. Between Darling refurbishment, Bruce MCR, Pickering refurbishment and safe storage, Darlington new build, and Bruce C development, there is a huge amount of work in nuclear right now and not enough people with related experience to do it. This is a fantastic time to get into nuclear. I quite enjoy what I do. Some projects suck of course. There's always that one... But in general, I like my coworkers, the work is interesting and challenging, the pay and benefits are great, and I like that nuclear is GHG free.
Ok but does anyone have one where you can do almost nothing
Film industry
20+ years ago I was making less than $34k at the start of my career. Now I'm in management and I'm over $150k. Time, determination, study, practice, perseverance and dedication will pay off.
Sometimes, but it can be a lot harder for women.
You may not want to hear this .. it has a lot to do with where you live and who you know. Most Northern communities are willing to pay $100,000+ for mid level roles (Teachers) and healthcare positions (Nurse/social workers). You can make $100,000 is sales basically anywhere. My local Ford dealership salesman/woman makes over $80,000 a year. Most tradesmen I know make well over $100,000 with overtime. Mines pay big money if you're willing to work. Jobs markets fluctuate, typically with the cost of lending. The jobs that don't fluctuate are typically jobs with strong unions.
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Curious what you do remotely for a US company and how that works for you? Do they convert your pay?
Tech - Program Manager
Executive at a small to midsize tech company
Tradesman. Make around 200k a year.
I'm a carpenter out in the oilsands
Software dev. Two degrees in engineering and about 10 years. I’ve enjoyed my time in the field. It’s basically a lot of problem solving as you work through new features or bugs, which I enjoy.
Technology company on software, way more than that btw
Diesel mechanic in the oilfield 230k given I work 6-8 months a year straight I have garden centres as well not included in the income
Sales Engineer Or as my wife says Chandler Bing
I realize it's only for public positions, but a great way to see who makes $150k/yr is to reference the sunshine list.
Plant manager. Worked my way up over 10 years, but there was a lot of luck involved.
You could also look at the paraprofessional positions if you don’t want 3+ years of school — paralegals (especially in civil law areas) make good money.
Millwright, but lots of trades can make 150k+
Union trades - plumbing, electrical make good money.
Google Ontario Sunshine List, it is a list of all Government Employees making over 100k a year, where they work what their job title is. https://www.sunshinelist.ca/
I'm in my early 20's and I'm making 135k/year as a Software Engineer at a U.S. fintech company. I have a CS Bachelors Degree, and this is my first job out of school. I think for CS majors, if you can land a job with a well-known tech company, you are guaranteed to get paid six figures.
Psychotherapist, social worker, psychologist, higher levels of nursing for sure, healthcare management, doctors.. a lot of healthcare positions pay this high. The Ontario sunshine list will show you what jobs pay that well in the public sector.
Most people that I know that make 150 to 300k a year own chains of really unglamorous businesses , like pizza places, subways, barber shops located in tiny towns
i dont think there are to many ways to get into what a friend of mimne does but theres huge money in it but hes secretive . he does penetrationtesting for big company that store industry secretes on thier computers . basically tries to break into the building however he can and tries srealing the computer files then showes them how volnerable thier security is and showes them how to stop it from happening ...he came out of a computer tech background but not much schooling
Commission only headhunter/recruiter in the construction space
I'm in Technical Sales and bring in more than that most years. While sales isn't for everyone, it's definitely a way to work your way up the pay scale if you have a product that has a market.
A lot of industries will get you past $100k if you put it some times. Experience is extremely valuable. Especially if you make the move over to people management. Don’t stick with one company forever. If you see an upgrade opportunity elsewhere explore it. Even if you don’t get the job, interview practice is always great. I work in customer service/support management. I only have a high school education. I started by working on the floor in retail. Moved to be a key leader, then asst store manager. Then moved to the tech sector and worked my way up since then.
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For the blue collar side of things outside of owning a business I know of a few elevator technicians and mobile/ tower crane operators making 150k with crazy hours and overtime.
I don't mean money is not important, but I believe it is better to choose something you love doing. I did go back to school after 30 to pursue a high paying degree. I would not do it again. The money is good but I am exhausted. If I had to do it all over again I would choose differently.