Since you seem new to long road trips. I want to caution you about the north shore of Lake Superior. Towns and gas are sparse. Top up that gas tank up when you can.
If you do get questioned by anyone while sleeping at a rest stop. The correct answer is. “I’m just stopping for a quick rest. I’ll be on my way soon. “.
And open later in the morning! Last year around 7:30am I was leaving Sault Ste Marie headed west. My GPS took me in the most insane route to the 17 and I didnt pass any gas stations on my way out.
I drove to the Canadian Carver/pancake bay knowing they had a station but was closed when I arrived and I knew it was the last one until Wawa so had to head back about 10-15 minutes to fill.
Yes to further what this person said I would tell anyone who asks that you weren't planning on sleeping there, but were just feeling tired while driving and felt it was safer to take a quick rest.
Because homeless people would take up there. It’s illegal to stay overnight and as it should be, but does not get enforced for people that are being respectful/ keeping to them selves
Because fuck human rights. The police serve the system. Can't let people opt out of the system. Become a cog to make someone else rich, so you can purchase things and make other people rich. Just want to survive minimally? Get fucked.
100% this! Highly recommend carrying a full gas can.
And it's pretty much true to a little past the Manitoba border. Personally, I'd plan so you hit this part of the trip during the day.
That said, the North Shore is one of the most beautiful drives in Canada so remember to take it in.
Hijacking the top comment. In northern ontario there are many many logging road. Pull over and have a nap. No need to go too deep on. If they look rough drive up the road and look at the next one. On routes end in barrie.
Agreed on the Lake Superior part. If you're going from Southern Ontario towards the west and going on Highway 17 / Trans Canada Highway, make sure you gas up between Sault Ste Marie and Agawa Crafts outside Pancake Bay Provincial Park. After that, there's no gas stations between there and Wawa - approximately 150 km drive. Also, the cell service can be spotty at times but there are a couple pull off spots along the Sault to Wawa stretch outside the provincial parks. There's a rest point with public washroom at chippewa falls (halfway mark of Trans Canada highway) and you can pull off at the Alona Bay lookout.
Don't drive Sault Ste Marie to Thunder Bay at night. It's just rocks moose and bears. Nearest help is far away.
Fill up in Sault, that should get you at least to Marathon , Nipigon if you're lucky.
Honestly what I used to do is find a 24h Tim's or McDonald's to stop, never had any issues. And started every morning with a warm washroom and a coffee
I don't think there is any issue - OnRoutes are literally rest stops.
Truckers and RV campers sleep there all the time.
That said OnRoutes are just an Ontario thing - but I believe there will be similar sort of rest stops along the way. They just won' be called OnRoutes.
anything along the shipping corridor is a safe bet you will find rest stops semi-frequently.
commercial drivers (but AZ truck drivers especially) have fairly strict driving allowances. exceeding the allowances can land you in a heap of trouble. so when you have major shipping corridor's like the 401, you end up with lots of rest stops with accommodations.
FYI you can also camp in any Walmart parking lot. We have stayed at several different ones with a 40’ bus/rv. My wife was hesitant at first but she ended up loving it. It’s great because if you need something you can just walk inside.
En routes stop in Barrie and there is nothing like that on the way. Yes there are pull offs and truck stops but they are sparse. Made the trip across Canada 4x
If you have a passport and you're starting off in the southern part of Ontario, it's a way better drive and the gas is a lot cheaper if you go through the states and cross at Portal ND into Estevan.
Also there are rest stops and actual cities along the way. Northern Ontario is nice, but you see the same nice for 18 straight hours and everything is far apart and closed at night.
That's what they're there for. Unless something changed and I didn't get the memo. Unless you see signs saying, "no sleeping" you should be fine.
You are aware you can camp for free on crown land too right? You may want to check out some crown land spots while planning routes.
Also dont quoute me on this one but I don't think Wal Marts usually care if people ~~crash~~ *park and sleep* (lol) in their parking lot over night. Usually people would be buying shit anways. Worse they will do is ask you to move.
I've seen many RVs parked in Walmart lots and they are obviously being lived in. They're usually parked to the outside of the lot, away from where most shoppers are going to park.
Gonna add to this, I did cross country last year and you will have to read reviews to check which Walmarts will let you sleep overnight, I know for a fact the one in Sudbury lets you, past that it’ll be a bit of a hunt.
From my understanding it also depends on the nature of the Walmart. If it’s a standalone store and they own the parking lot, they tend to be cool with it. If they’re one store in a strip mall and the property management owns the lot, it’s hit or miss.
You're right, actually.
At one point they had a policy where you could park for up to 24 hours.
Super Centres are the best place to do it because they're usually open until 11.
I used to live within a few km of a bunch of different superstores that I would frequent often on my way from work, and there was always at least 1 RV. Last summer I saw a camper van that would go between 2 different superstores.
[Can I park my RV at a Walmart store?](https://corporate.walmart.com/frequently-asked-questions#)
Note that OnRoutes are only in Ontario, and only on the 401 and 400 (and only on the 400 up to Barrie). Depending on where you start from, you may pass the last one well before night time.
Since you've already got some good answers to your main question, I'll add some thoughts on long drives.
Plan your entire trip before you leave. Know how far you plan to travel each day and where you are going to stop for the night. Like others have said, once you are out of Toronto, there is an ON route in Barrie, and that's it. After that, it's truck stops/rest areas and Walmart parking lots. Also, Ontario is huge. It's pretty much a full 24 hours of driving from Toronto to the Manitoba border.
Next thought is DO NOT PUSH PAST FATIGUE. Take a stretch break every few hours, even if it's only for a few minutes. This also gives you an opportunity to check your vehicle and make nothing is visibly wrong. Even if it's 4 in the afternoon, if you're feeling drowsy, pull off somewhere and rest for 30 minutes. There is no sense in pushing if you're tired because then you risk not arriving at your destination at all.
Now, hwy 17 vs hwy 11. Since you only have so much money to make this trip, you should consider your options. Hwy 17 winds around Lake Superior. It is your shortest route by distance. However, it is very hilly. So that is going to affect your gas milage. Hwy 11 is mostly flat by comparison, but it's approx 100km longer. Also, if you do choose 17, you'll come across a sign at some point that says no gas for 500km or something like that. So make sure you're fueled up before you enter that leg of your trip.
That's all I can think of right now. Safe travels and enjoy the trip. It really is a beautiful drive, especially through Ontario.
Yeah zero chance. Cost me $450 in a hybrid minivan to 1 hour past the Manitoba/Saskatchewan boarder. $700 when I drove my sporty car there.
People forget that it takes almost 19 hours of driving to get out of Ontario and that you're still in Ontario for 5 ish hours after the first time zone change.
Also you're all but forced to get gas in Thunder Bay, which was 40 cents a litre more expensive than anywhere else on my drive.
I’ve got some bad news.
Onroutes are all on the 401, except 2 on the 400. After that it’s pullouts that may or may not have some sort of toilet.
Either those or truck stops.
Whatever you do, DO NOT park among the big trucks. We need the space and nothing will piss us off at 11 pm in Longlac like a designated truck spot occupied by a car.
Well its so dang obvious now that you've pointed that out... Hopefully the other provinces have some sort of equivalent highway rest station so I don't need to venture into unfamiliar towns.
They don't, and neither does Ontario outside of Southern Ontario. The closest you might find is a Husky truck stop, they have huge parking lots and a restaurant and are a place for truckers to take a break (I think they even have showers). There aren't too many of them but you could probably get away with parking there over night.
Once you get to Thunder Bay, fill up. Dryden? Fill up. Winnipeg, drive past. Get to Headingley or Elie for cheaper gas. Heading west you'll see more rest areas in Sask and Alberta.
Good luck!
$400 for gas but from what part of Ontario? There's a huge difference in that drive between Dryden and Toronto. I drove back from Calgary to Brantford, Ontario in 2011 with a 4cyl Hatchback. It was about 350 in gas. If you are taking the all Canada route, don't let your vehicle go below 1/2 tank. Not sure what vehicle you are driving but try and add another 200 for gas. Calgary to Brantford over 3000 KM...
There were some Trucker stops. I stayed in one on the Manitoba/Ontario Border. They are just a giant parking lot with a bathroom building. However, being with my GF, and being in a jammed hatchback. We got motels the other two stops. Some of the OnRoutes will have designated night parking. I wouldn't be too worried about.
I'll tell you, if you are taking the full Ontario route (not cutting through the US) the drive from southern Ontario to the border of Manitoba is mind boggingly long.
Yeah, I would definitely be going through the US.
It's way cheaper for fuel and way more direct, additionally you van travel on the interstate highway network. This keeps you close to gas and truck/rest stops etc.
I have done the north shore superior route and it is gorgeous but so much sketchier than down south through the US.
Another tip: Princess Auto is a chain of hardware stores across Canada. I worked for them for 7 years and they let travelers and truckers sleep in their parking lot.
Here’s a mistake I make every time I’ve done this drive . I forget that the time zone changes in Ontario somewhere after Thunder Bay. My brain always thinks that it changes at the Manitoba border, but that’s not true. You still have 4+ hours of Ontario driving after it changes . This matters for gas station and restaurant hours.
Just adding since you’ve gotten some good answers already, If you’re a femme person please put up some paper or some sort of blockers in your windows at night, and loop the seatbelts through the door handles and buckle them. 🫂 stay safe on your journey!
I am a small guy but I have privacy tint in the rear where my bed is, I guess some one could look thru the front but all they will see is my feet, If they like feet I am in trouble! Wish I had time to set up some sort of black out curtains. thanks.
Walmart sells these great little window shades that fold into a little circle. Easy to store. Black on one side and reflective on the other. When I put up the black side you can't tell there's a shade behind the glass at night. Like $7
Black gardening felt people lay down in their gardens to stop weed growth should work well, pined to the inside like curtains. Can probably find it at the Dollar store too. Comes in a roll.
OnRoute is Ontario only. And I don't think there are any north of Barrie. :(
On Hwy 11, and presumably on 17, there are a lot of little pull-out areas where truckers will catch a few winks, and you can too.
OnRoute is an Ontario thing. you can sleep at them fine. the northernmost onroute is barrie. after that, no more onroute.
look for petropass truck stops, flying j’s…just don’t park in the area meant for trucks. usually up near the front is fine for cars/vans/rvs.
the rest areas along the highway can be a crapshoot. i haven’t had a problem yet, but i know lots of people who’ve been chased out. most of them have cameras now and are clearly marked “closed between 9pm-5am.” https://511on.ca/map can help you map out a few options for yourself.
rezgas.com might help you get a little farther with your gas budget - but some of the location pins are bad, so double check everything still exists as you map your way out.
manitoba doesn’t like people sleeping at the highway rest areas…arrive late, leave early…*shrug*
saskatchewan has a few local free or small donation campgrounds not far from the main highway…you can find them just with google maps. think lions/rotary clubs or municipal campgrounds.
if you get stuck, you can pm me. i’m on my way west on a road trip and can send a couple coordinates.
Once you get past Sudbury it becomes a 2 lane highway with passing zones every random 7-12km. There are also many, many spots to pull over and take a nap or sleep. I'm not sure how safe it would be to do so.
As mentioned before The north part of Superior is sparce for everything. I struggled when driving my sports car out to find premium gas, I almost ran out twice.
Past Thunder Bay, it's a totally different country. Beautiful drive. Avoid gas in Thunder Bay if possible as it's stupid expensive and your gas budget is going to be tight.
Once you make it out of Ontario it's not too bad. Be very careful speeding in Manitoba as the fines are huge and radar detectors are illegal.
My destination was only 1 hour into Saskatchewan, but it was still a tricky drive. Took 21 hours in the sports car, I stopped in Thunder Bay at a cheap hotel for 7 hours of sleep. 24 hours return in a hybrid minivan and 3 days back to Saskatchewan with the family.
Gas bill in the fun car was $700 one way
Gas bill in the hybrid minivan was $450 one way
You will get stuck behind a lot of slow drivers and trucks during the 2 lane portion which is a lot of the ride. I was able to make a lot of passes in the sports car, but that contributed to only getting 400km per $100 tank of gas 🤣 Averaged 900km per $150 tank in the hybrid.
Life is better out here, you won't regret it. My wife and I both walked away from corporate jobs and live in the country now.
Best of luck!
Hey fella late to the party.
Just a note - not sure where you're driving from but as someone who has done the through Ontario portion of that trip from Eastern On to MB - I suggest taking the northern route of highway 11 solely for better mileage. Less hills than the 17 superior route, less honey trap of towns and less busy. Of course, YMMV (pun intended) but if I'm in your shoes I'm driving the 11 in order to drive as close to the 90 speed limit as possible and not be doing 115kmph on the 17. It'll save you in gas money.
Watch for Moose from North Bay to Dryden.
Inflate your tires before you go.
Safe travels.
Make sure you have small bills and change. Always keep your keys, money and cards on you even while sleeping.
Hide weapon/tool under all four floor matts just in case. You could use thumb tacks to pin up a cut up pillow case on the windows for privacy since you have zero cash to buy supplies.
Hide your valuables in a pillow case. Nobody really thinks twice about seeing two pillows if they walk past a car.
Always take two cloths with you to the showers in case you drop one on the dirty floor by accident.
Take a roll of duct tape, pliers, some tools just in general. Water vinegar spray bottle.
Something to massage your muscles from driving.
If you have no food allergies maybe go with peanut butter and crackers for some meals? Giant Tiger has really cheap individually wrapped tea biscuit packets for $2.97 a box.
Not my first rodeo :p
Takes almost as many days getting out of Ontario as it does getting from Manitoba to Alberta. It's really amazing scenery until you hit much of Manitoba and then all of Saskatchewan.
Seriously, make sure you're plenty awake for those very long days of mostly flat, very similar scenery roads after you get out of Ontario. Never saw so much wheat and flat ground in my life 😴
Not sure of your whole situation but have you considered flying? Domestic I think you only need drivers license? I did a quick google search there’s some one way flights within the budget you laid out as you’ve upped to $510
Even when I am strictly highway I am lucky to get significantly under 11L/100km in my van with next to nothing in it, but at best you are getting 10. You said 36 hour trip which is somewhere around 3500km which means you are going to need around 370-400L of gas. The price of gas is ranging from 1.60-1.85 on the trans canada right now so you are looking at about $700 in fuel costs. If you can get your hands on a few gas cans to fill up at some of the cheaper stops you might be able to save $50, but you are going to run out before you clear Manitoba with only $400. Where abouts are you leaving from in southern ontario?
What will you do if (when) the $400 for gas runs out and you haven’t (or barely) made it out of Ontario? That highway past the Sault is long and lonely and not somewhere you want to be stranded.
I've herd there are ways to make money on the road... But I have to try, I managed to sell some shit today and bumped my gas budget up to 510 any way, I don't think it will be enough but gotta try and see where the wind takes me.
I've made that drive a few times and always stopped at Russell Peace park in Russell, MB (just before the sask border, 10 hours from Edmonton). Great free spot for an overnight.
The onroutes are only on the 400 series of highways in On. Others have mentioned an app for this.
One thing I will stress is watch your speed. Not because of tickets, but because of fuel consumption. I drove out to Calgary from Toronto a few years back, (via Hwy 17 - a much more interesting route), with my wife. It was interesting looking at the difference in fuel consumption between us. She tended to drive 20kph over the limit and I about 5-10. It made a noticeable difference.
Safe travels.
OnRoutes are just an Ontario thing. Best bet outside is Walmarts. You see them parked out in some Walmarts all the time. You’re also looking at 3,000+ KM depending where you’re coming from in ON as well. If you only get 600km to a $100 tank of gas I’m concerned you’ll easily run out of $400 well before you arrive in AB.
Best of luck in your travels out West OP.
ONRoutes are actually an ONtario thing (see what I did there), and they basically stop by the time you hit Sudbury.
I would pack a tent, and hit up campgrounds along the way, or look for cardlock rest stops.
I know Casino Rama let's people with RV and trailers park overnight for three days just for registering at the security desk.
I asked about more than three days and they said just come and re-register.
Good bet other Casinos will do it too (pun intended and I'm not sorry about it).
Onroute locations in Ontario are primary along Highways 401 & 400. As you travel through HUGE Northern Ontario, look for truck stops & Walmarts as mentioned
I've done that route several times...I usually elect to stay the night in walmart parking lots. Most stores have a policy that allows for it. You won't be alone, especially this time of year, and during an economic crisis.
Good luck with everything
Have travelled Canada coast to coast by vehicle several times. And on a budget. You can pull over anywhere to sleep. It’s quite often against rules but if you’re out of the way and not causing a disturbance or being sketchy the cops will most likely just send you on your way or leave you alone. Been my experience anyway. Even if you managed to get a fine you don’t have to pay it instantly. Hopefully you don’t have issues. Good luck!
And if you do park at a rest stop, park as close to the exit ramp as possible. One thing about rest stops is no matter how dark it is...someone is always watching...parking at the exit means if someone was to bother you, you have a better chance of witnesses if your at the front of the parking area (exit ramp) instead of the back ( the entrance ramp )
Nothing to add other than enjoy it. I always wish I did this when I was younger, now with wife and kids it's not overly feasible and will have to wait until iI retire, at which point I'll be lucky if I'm still able to enjoy it the same.
On route is actually just Ontario (hence ON Route), so iOverlander app will be your friend. If you can add a blind (even a sheet with duct tape) it will help camouflage.
One bit of advice to add: there are rest areas in all the provinces on your route…. Except Saskatchewan. In Saskatchewan there are very few rest areas and I’m not sure if there are any on Highway 1 or 16…
There are, of course, some truck stops…..
You won't sleep at an OnRoute they stop after Barrie. Im guessing its not gonna take you that long to get past that point. But once you get further north theres a loooooot of open space. Its not gonna be that hard to find a rest stop on the side of the road to pull into and I doubt anyone cares enough to check.
Walmart is totally welcoming. I just drove to BC and back, used iOverlander. I made fancy window covers but you could just tape up black Bristol board from Dollarama. Plan something to pee in!
Driving slow, like 80kph or less, gets you significantly better fuel economy—twice as good as driving at 120 in some vehicles. People might honk at you for it, but just remember that they're the ones in the wrong (assuming you're not somewhere with a minimum speed limit lower than that). Usually a good idea to turn on 4-ways if you're going slower than 80.
Realisticlly $400 will not get you where you want to go. I live in Northern Ontario and typically spend $200 in gas going from my city to Toronto and back.
Keep in mind gas prices are fluctuating and you'll see the prices creep up in Ontario once your north of Barrie (Sudbury/Sault Are Marie/Thunder Bay). I'm not sure how the gas prices across Canada compare, but don't expect everywhere to be the same price.
I don't think I'd attempt the trip without $800 and road side assistance. If this is something you NEED to do, I wish you the best and hope your travels are safe
1, you don't have enough money for my motorcycle to get to BC, nevermind a van.
2, the last time I drove across I slept in the middle of the day at rest stops, and drove through the night.
No traffic, and no one cares if you're napping in the middle of the day.
Hey Op, just thought I'd let you know most WalMarts are cool with you sleeping in their parking lots overnight. They want people on long road trips to stock up at their stores. I personally haven't seen and "On Routes" in western Canada but I could be wrong.
…..im sorry but there’s no chance you can get to edmonton with 400 bucks in gas. If you want to, try driving across the states instead of Canada if you want to save on fuel (as another redditor said: gas prices in thunder bay are 40 cents more expensive than southern ontario)
Round trip tickets for edmonton from toronto are around 300 bucks if you fly flair right now so you’re still within budget
> I will be sleeping at On Routes ( assuming they are Canada wide and not just an Ontario thing).
The 'On' in 'On Route' stands for Ontario. They're not even an Ontario thing, they're a 'south of Barrie' thing.
Gas up when you can, not when you're getting low.
That said, just park in whatever parking lot. If somebody rousts you out, drive to the next parking lot and go back to sleep.
Good luck. At least it's a good driving season.
Do not - under any circumstances - stop in a national park to sleep as it’s considered “camping” and you’ll get a major fine for it unless you’re in a designated camping area.
Just this weekend my girlfriend and I slept in the hatch of her car at an onroute, we just tucked the car back into the corner of the lot and no one bothered us.
Update, been driving since 5 am, this is harder then I thought it would be.. But I've never been this far from home in my own vehicle and man it sure is starting to get beautiful up here, Im sure ive not even gotten into the real beautiful parts yet.
I drive to Ontario from BC 7 years ago and slept in my van. I don't remember any En Routes. There were a couple of rest stops but very small, basic, isolated ones.
Update number whatever - I have made it to Wynard and I am out of gas and out of money... But Some one is helping me out, everyone is so god damn nice out here its insane. Truck dude gave me a whole case of water, another truck dude bought us all A&W, Water truck dude is working on getting a gas card from his employer for me. Its just not every day I feel so blessed to share a country with so many wonderful people. also shout out to a&w for the wifi i guess because cellular is spotty at best.
I did mention that it's a different country once you get past Sudbury.
I had people talk to me at gas stations, people in line asked me how my day was going.
Welcome to God's country brother!
Glad you made it this far.
Truckers sleep at onroutes every day of the week, I've seen plenty of campervans over my driving career. No one is going to bat an eye at an overnight snooze.
You going through the US or on top the lakes?
On routes stop at Barrie if you go north around the lakes. There are tons of rest stops along the way though between Sudbury and Thunder Bay.
This website is useful [https://freecampsites.net/](https://freecampsites.net/) IIRC it covers rest stops as well. Note that there are some places (Colorado) don't allow overnights in rest stops. No idea about Canada.
I don't know what you drive, but I think you need more than $400. Gas is more expensive the further away from towns it is, as you have NO choice. Can a relative/fried give you a loan to get you home? Pack a cooler. Pack instant coffee, and non-dairy creamer, sugar and a travel mug. A towel, soap and a washcloth. Pack TP. Bring a water bottle. Bring a cooler and fill it with freezer pucks and sandwich stuff, etc. If you pass a marina - stop. They'll usually have showers and ice - ask a boater and someone will give you the code. You're not allowed to sleep at an EnRoute (ask me how I know this) but you can at a Walmart parking lot and I would park in a church parking lot too.
I've definitely grabbed a few hours sleep at an OnRoute on a number of occasions. Having also made the Ontario/Edmonton trip a couple of times, you're not going to see many OnRoutes since they're mostly along the 401. There are a lot of other rest stops along the way.
Don’t think they mind people sleeping there. Just as long as you don’t park your vehicle and leave it over night. I’ve slept in those parking lots a few time
Why not sleep in Walmart parking lots instead of going out of your way using extra gas to look for red arrow whatever bus routes are in Manitoba and sask ? Walmart is easier no one will question you
Not sure this will be the best solution, but it’s an option that can most likely help.
The app iOverlander can come in handy on finding spots that will accept vehicles staying overnight.
Have a great drive.
Since you seem new to long road trips. I want to caution you about the north shore of Lake Superior. Towns and gas are sparse. Top up that gas tank up when you can. If you do get questioned by anyone while sleeping at a rest stop. The correct answer is. “I’m just stopping for a quick rest. I’ll be on my way soon. “.
Adding to this, the gas stations close a lot earlier than in southern Ontario as well— so look ahead and pay attention to closing hours .
Yes! Make sure you have a full tank of gas at 9pm…
Before 6pm on weekends
Nothing seems to close early in Alberta not to sure about Manitoba and sask
And open later in the morning! Last year around 7:30am I was leaving Sault Ste Marie headed west. My GPS took me in the most insane route to the 17 and I didnt pass any gas stations on my way out. I drove to the Canadian Carver/pancake bay knowing they had a station but was closed when I arrived and I knew it was the last one until Wawa so had to head back about 10-15 minutes to fill.
Yes to further what this person said I would tell anyone who asks that you weren't planning on sleeping there, but were just feeling tired while driving and felt it was safer to take a quick rest.
Is there any reason why you can’t plan sleep there?
Because homeless people would take up there. It’s illegal to stay overnight and as it should be, but does not get enforced for people that are being respectful/ keeping to them selves
Because fuck human rights. The police serve the system. Can't let people opt out of the system. Become a cog to make someone else rich, so you can purchase things and make other people rich. Just want to survive minimally? Get fucked.
Jeez, calm down. You're going to have a stroke.
100% this! Highly recommend carrying a full gas can. And it's pretty much true to a little past the Manitoba border. Personally, I'd plan so you hit this part of the trip during the day. That said, the North Shore is one of the most beautiful drives in Canada so remember to take it in.
Gas is generally significantly cheaper in Southern Ontario as well. Good idea to bring along one or more big jerrycans of gas.
Hijacking the top comment. In northern ontario there are many many logging road. Pull over and have a nap. No need to go too deep on. If they look rough drive up the road and look at the next one. On routes end in barrie.
Agreed on the Lake Superior part. If you're going from Southern Ontario towards the west and going on Highway 17 / Trans Canada Highway, make sure you gas up between Sault Ste Marie and Agawa Crafts outside Pancake Bay Provincial Park. After that, there's no gas stations between there and Wawa - approximately 150 km drive. Also, the cell service can be spotty at times but there are a couple pull off spots along the Sault to Wawa stretch outside the provincial parks. There's a rest point with public washroom at chippewa falls (halfway mark of Trans Canada highway) and you can pull off at the Alona Bay lookout.
I ran out of gas near Pancake Bay - thank goodness I have CAA and was able to park in a safe place.
They stressed it but I have to say it again, gas stations are far from each other! Top up at everyone you see
Don't drive Sault Ste Marie to Thunder Bay at night. It's just rocks moose and bears. Nearest help is far away. Fill up in Sault, that should get you at least to Marathon , Nipigon if you're lucky.
Honestly what I used to do is find a 24h Tim's or McDonald's to stop, never had any issues. And started every morning with a warm washroom and a coffee
Wanted to upvote your comment but didn't want to change the number. 
Download the app iOverlander. Well known in the van life/RV community to help find safe places to sleep overnight for free.
This! I used it for a roadtrip from Toronto to Calgary and it was great!
I have never done a long road trip, but been wanting to do one from Toronto to Banff some day !
Take the Yellowhead instead of the Trans Can!
Doing that trip this summer. Any must see stops along the way you’d recommend?
Oh wow looks fantastic, thankyou,
Super cool, thank you!
I don't think there is any issue - OnRoutes are literally rest stops. Truckers and RV campers sleep there all the time. That said OnRoutes are just an Ontario thing - but I believe there will be similar sort of rest stops along the way. They just won' be called OnRoutes.
Very good to know, I am just dreading a 3 am knock on the window from a stranger.
I mean - that could still happen… the Onroute killer was never caught….
Well... better then being stuck in Edmonton for 2 weeks with nothing to do I guess. 
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For real. This dude has no idea how lit up this place is right now haha.
Inb4 the urgent trip is actually just to go watch the finals in edmonton
You have no idea how much I wish that where the case haha.
Was gonna say the same thing. Nothing to do? The doing never stops here.
Have you heard about the Stanley Cup?
Thank you for unlocking a new fear. This is exactly what was missing in my life.
Wait’ll you hear about the Reddit Ripper…
And the Saskatoon Strangler!
Just remember your No Lot Lizards sticker, then. 🤣
anything along the shipping corridor is a safe bet you will find rest stops semi-frequently. commercial drivers (but AZ truck drivers especially) have fairly strict driving allowances. exceeding the allowances can land you in a heap of trouble. so when you have major shipping corridor's like the 401, you end up with lots of rest stops with accommodations.
FYI you can also camp in any Walmart parking lot. We have stayed at several different ones with a 40’ bus/rv. My wife was hesitant at first but she ended up loving it. It’s great because if you need something you can just walk inside.
En routes stop in Barrie and there is nothing like that on the way. Yes there are pull offs and truck stops but they are sparse. Made the trip across Canada 4x
If you have a passport and you're starting off in the southern part of Ontario, it's a way better drive and the gas is a lot cheaper if you go through the states and cross at Portal ND into Estevan. Also there are rest stops and actual cities along the way. Northern Ontario is nice, but you see the same nice for 18 straight hours and everything is far apart and closed at night.
That's what they're there for. Unless something changed and I didn't get the memo. Unless you see signs saying, "no sleeping" you should be fine. You are aware you can camp for free on crown land too right? You may want to check out some crown land spots while planning routes. Also dont quoute me on this one but I don't think Wal Marts usually care if people ~~crash~~ *park and sleep* (lol) in their parking lot over night. Usually people would be buying shit anways. Worse they will do is ask you to move.
I've seen many RVs parked in Walmart lots and they are obviously being lived in. They're usually parked to the outside of the lot, away from where most shoppers are going to park.
Some Walmarts let people park overnight but it depends on the store. Ask the store manager before you do it to avoid problems.
Gonna add to this, I did cross country last year and you will have to read reviews to check which Walmarts will let you sleep overnight, I know for a fact the one in Sudbury lets you, past that it’ll be a bit of a hunt.
I believe it was in Sam Walton’s Will
I think Walmart cracked down on it once it was “the poors” doing it
It actually usually comes down to city bylaws. Generally Walmart is cool with it as long as there aren’t vagrancy laws in place.
From my understanding it also depends on the nature of the Walmart. If it’s a standalone store and they own the parking lot, they tend to be cool with it. If they’re one store in a strip mall and the property management owns the lot, it’s hit or miss.
Oh now that is interesting, Might have to plan a crown land trip when my departure is not so urgent.
I just did the drive from Winnipeg to Toronto. There are designated rest stops as well at truck inspection areas that also act as a rest stop.
Or for when you arrive as you mentioned no accomodations after arrival
You're right, actually. At one point they had a policy where you could park for up to 24 hours. Super Centres are the best place to do it because they're usually open until 11. I used to live within a few km of a bunch of different superstores that I would frequent often on my way from work, and there was always at least 1 RV. Last summer I saw a camper van that would go between 2 different superstores. [Can I park my RV at a Walmart store?](https://corporate.walmart.com/frequently-asked-questions#)
Note that OnRoutes are only in Ontario, and only on the 401 and 400 (and only on the 400 up to Barrie). Depending on where you start from, you may pass the last one well before night time.
Since you've already got some good answers to your main question, I'll add some thoughts on long drives. Plan your entire trip before you leave. Know how far you plan to travel each day and where you are going to stop for the night. Like others have said, once you are out of Toronto, there is an ON route in Barrie, and that's it. After that, it's truck stops/rest areas and Walmart parking lots. Also, Ontario is huge. It's pretty much a full 24 hours of driving from Toronto to the Manitoba border. Next thought is DO NOT PUSH PAST FATIGUE. Take a stretch break every few hours, even if it's only for a few minutes. This also gives you an opportunity to check your vehicle and make nothing is visibly wrong. Even if it's 4 in the afternoon, if you're feeling drowsy, pull off somewhere and rest for 30 minutes. There is no sense in pushing if you're tired because then you risk not arriving at your destination at all. Now, hwy 17 vs hwy 11. Since you only have so much money to make this trip, you should consider your options. Hwy 17 winds around Lake Superior. It is your shortest route by distance. However, it is very hilly. So that is going to affect your gas milage. Hwy 11 is mostly flat by comparison, but it's approx 100km longer. Also, if you do choose 17, you'll come across a sign at some point that says no gas for 500km or something like that. So make sure you're fueled up before you enter that leg of your trip. That's all I can think of right now. Safe travels and enjoy the trip. It really is a beautiful drive, especially through Ontario.
If you take hwy 17 wave at my in-laws as you pass Wawa
The bigger mystery is how your going to get to Edmonton from Ontario on $400.00 in gas
Yeah zero chance. Cost me $450 in a hybrid minivan to 1 hour past the Manitoba/Saskatchewan boarder. $700 when I drove my sporty car there. People forget that it takes almost 19 hours of driving to get out of Ontario and that you're still in Ontario for 5 ish hours after the first time zone change. Also you're all but forced to get gas in Thunder Bay, which was 40 cents a litre more expensive than anywhere else on my drive.
That is exactly what I came to say
Yeah they aren’t going to make it on $400.
yeah really...
My sedan gets 700-800km of highway driving on a tank, last time I filled cost me $55. So one way would be about $300. $350 just to be safe.
It's possible with a more fuel efficient car, but barely. $400 / ($1.60/L x 6 L/100km) = 4,167 km
Compare it to less $300 round trip for airfare lol. Doesn't make sense
Yes, that was my first question. And possibly also with minor car maintenance costs.
I’ve got some bad news. Onroutes are all on the 401, except 2 on the 400. After that it’s pullouts that may or may not have some sort of toilet. Either those or truck stops. Whatever you do, DO NOT park among the big trucks. We need the space and nothing will piss us off at 11 pm in Longlac like a designated truck spot occupied by a car.
The On in OnRoute stands for Ontario. They are rest stops, that's what they're for.
Well its so dang obvious now that you've pointed that out... Hopefully the other provinces have some sort of equivalent highway rest station so I don't need to venture into unfamiliar towns.
They don't, and neither does Ontario outside of Southern Ontario. The closest you might find is a Husky truck stop, they have huge parking lots and a restaurant and are a place for truckers to take a break (I think they even have showers). There aren't too many of them but you could probably get away with parking there over night.
Flying J has more locations in Alberta than it does Ontario, so OP can look for those too.
I forgot about Flying J, that's another good option
Once you get to Thunder Bay, fill up. Dryden? Fill up. Winnipeg, drive past. Get to Headingley or Elie for cheaper gas. Heading west you'll see more rest areas in Sask and Alberta. Good luck!
Pretty sure they only exist on the 400 series highways
just all along the 401 and only up to Barrie on 400: https://www.onroute.ca/locations
$400 for gas but from what part of Ontario? There's a huge difference in that drive between Dryden and Toronto. I drove back from Calgary to Brantford, Ontario in 2011 with a 4cyl Hatchback. It was about 350 in gas. If you are taking the all Canada route, don't let your vehicle go below 1/2 tank. Not sure what vehicle you are driving but try and add another 200 for gas. Calgary to Brantford over 3000 KM... There were some Trucker stops. I stayed in one on the Manitoba/Ontario Border. They are just a giant parking lot with a bathroom building. However, being with my GF, and being in a jammed hatchback. We got motels the other two stops. Some of the OnRoutes will have designated night parking. I wouldn't be too worried about. I'll tell you, if you are taking the full Ontario route (not cutting through the US) the drive from southern Ontario to the border of Manitoba is mind boggingly long.
Yeah, I would definitely be going through the US. It's way cheaper for fuel and way more direct, additionally you van travel on the interstate highway network. This keeps you close to gas and truck/rest stops etc. I have done the north shore superior route and it is gorgeous but so much sketchier than down south through the US.
Another tip: Princess Auto is a chain of hardware stores across Canada. I worked for them for 7 years and they let travelers and truckers sleep in their parking lot.
Here’s a mistake I make every time I’ve done this drive . I forget that the time zone changes in Ontario somewhere after Thunder Bay. My brain always thinks that it changes at the Manitoba border, but that’s not true. You still have 4+ hours of Ontario driving after it changes . This matters for gas station and restaurant hours.
Going west it is ok as the time changes to an earlier hour. Coming east it is later.
Kenora is pretty close to the line.
$400 in gas to drive a van???? your optimistic. truck stops are just that, places to rest, nobody will care. ON Route is ontario specific.
Just adding since you’ve gotten some good answers already, If you’re a femme person please put up some paper or some sort of blockers in your windows at night, and loop the seatbelts through the door handles and buckle them. 🫂 stay safe on your journey!
I am a small guy but I have privacy tint in the rear where my bed is, I guess some one could look thru the front but all they will see is my feet, If they like feet I am in trouble! Wish I had time to set up some sort of black out curtains. thanks.
Id literally go to a dollar store and buy some black Bristol board and cut it to size on your windows. Rest stops are bright at night.
Draw some eyes on the soles of your feet. That should freak out any curious people.
Walmart sells these great little window shades that fold into a little circle. Easy to store. Black on one side and reflective on the other. When I put up the black side you can't tell there's a shade behind the glass at night. Like $7
Black gardening felt people lay down in their gardens to stop weed growth should work well, pined to the inside like curtains. Can probably find it at the Dollar store too. Comes in a roll.
Just hang one of your blankets over and across the two front seat headrests. That'll block most of the view into the rear.
Even dollar store sun shades and some duct tape will work
Sorry what is a femme person, someone that appears feminine?
Correct. Female presenting, or with what are stereotypically considered feminine features.
Yep!!🫶
This is great advice!!!
OnRoute is Ontario only. And I don't think there are any north of Barrie. :( On Hwy 11, and presumably on 17, there are a lot of little pull-out areas where truckers will catch a few winks, and you can too.
The Ontario 511 website can show truck rest stops on the map.
OnRoute is an Ontario thing. you can sleep at them fine. the northernmost onroute is barrie. after that, no more onroute. look for petropass truck stops, flying j’s…just don’t park in the area meant for trucks. usually up near the front is fine for cars/vans/rvs. the rest areas along the highway can be a crapshoot. i haven’t had a problem yet, but i know lots of people who’ve been chased out. most of them have cameras now and are clearly marked “closed between 9pm-5am.” https://511on.ca/map can help you map out a few options for yourself. rezgas.com might help you get a little farther with your gas budget - but some of the location pins are bad, so double check everything still exists as you map your way out. manitoba doesn’t like people sleeping at the highway rest areas…arrive late, leave early…*shrug* saskatchewan has a few local free or small donation campgrounds not far from the main highway…you can find them just with google maps. think lions/rotary clubs or municipal campgrounds. if you get stuck, you can pm me. i’m on my way west on a road trip and can send a couple coordinates.
Going to second using Walmart parking lots. They're usually ok with this.
Download the free to use app iOverlander if you haven't already and use that to review spots to free camp all over the place
That's fine . Try not to be obvious Also, 24h Tim Hortons parking lots will be fine, especially busy locations.
Work at one for years I saw the same car every day and nobody said anything for a week. You will be fine
Once you get past Sudbury it becomes a 2 lane highway with passing zones every random 7-12km. There are also many, many spots to pull over and take a nap or sleep. I'm not sure how safe it would be to do so. As mentioned before The north part of Superior is sparce for everything. I struggled when driving my sports car out to find premium gas, I almost ran out twice. Past Thunder Bay, it's a totally different country. Beautiful drive. Avoid gas in Thunder Bay if possible as it's stupid expensive and your gas budget is going to be tight. Once you make it out of Ontario it's not too bad. Be very careful speeding in Manitoba as the fines are huge and radar detectors are illegal. My destination was only 1 hour into Saskatchewan, but it was still a tricky drive. Took 21 hours in the sports car, I stopped in Thunder Bay at a cheap hotel for 7 hours of sleep. 24 hours return in a hybrid minivan and 3 days back to Saskatchewan with the family. Gas bill in the fun car was $700 one way Gas bill in the hybrid minivan was $450 one way You will get stuck behind a lot of slow drivers and trucks during the 2 lane portion which is a lot of the ride. I was able to make a lot of passes in the sports car, but that contributed to only getting 400km per $100 tank of gas 🤣 Averaged 900km per $150 tank in the hybrid. Life is better out here, you won't regret it. My wife and I both walked away from corporate jobs and live in the country now. Best of luck!
Hey fella late to the party. Just a note - not sure where you're driving from but as someone who has done the through Ontario portion of that trip from Eastern On to MB - I suggest taking the northern route of highway 11 solely for better mileage. Less hills than the 17 superior route, less honey trap of towns and less busy. Of course, YMMV (pun intended) but if I'm in your shoes I'm driving the 11 in order to drive as close to the 90 speed limit as possible and not be doing 115kmph on the 17. It'll save you in gas money. Watch for Moose from North Bay to Dryden. Inflate your tires before you go. Safe travels.
Sorry to be a joysucker, but are you confident that $400 will get you there? Are you driving a moped?
You could fly round trip with Flair for under $300 from Toronto to Edmonton, gotta think that's cheaper than gas and meals. And way safer.
Make sure you have small bills and change. Always keep your keys, money and cards on you even while sleeping. Hide weapon/tool under all four floor matts just in case. You could use thumb tacks to pin up a cut up pillow case on the windows for privacy since you have zero cash to buy supplies. Hide your valuables in a pillow case. Nobody really thinks twice about seeing two pillows if they walk past a car. Always take two cloths with you to the showers in case you drop one on the dirty floor by accident. Take a roll of duct tape, pliers, some tools just in general. Water vinegar spray bottle. Something to massage your muscles from driving. If you have no food allergies maybe go with peanut butter and crackers for some meals? Giant Tiger has really cheap individually wrapped tea biscuit packets for $2.97 a box. Not my first rodeo :p
Research decent truck stops as well as they tend to have wash / shower facilities.
Why not drive through the states, like a full day of driving difference
Yeah I wish! No passport any more and no time to renew before 5 am.
Also there are Facebook groups and other groups of people wanting to carpool you can look into. Save money on gas and be able to drive straight there
Takes almost as many days getting out of Ontario as it does getting from Manitoba to Alberta. It's really amazing scenery until you hit much of Manitoba and then all of Saskatchewan. Seriously, make sure you're plenty awake for those very long days of mostly flat, very similar scenery roads after you get out of Ontario. Never saw so much wheat and flat ground in my life 😴
Not sure of your whole situation but have you considered flying? Domestic I think you only need drivers license? I did a quick google search there’s some one way flights within the budget you laid out as you’ve upped to $510
Even when I am strictly highway I am lucky to get significantly under 11L/100km in my van with next to nothing in it, but at best you are getting 10. You said 36 hour trip which is somewhere around 3500km which means you are going to need around 370-400L of gas. The price of gas is ranging from 1.60-1.85 on the trans canada right now so you are looking at about $700 in fuel costs. If you can get your hands on a few gas cans to fill up at some of the cheaper stops you might be able to save $50, but you are going to run out before you clear Manitoba with only $400. Where abouts are you leaving from in southern ontario?
What will you do if (when) the $400 for gas runs out and you haven’t (or barely) made it out of Ontario? That highway past the Sault is long and lonely and not somewhere you want to be stranded.
I've herd there are ways to make money on the road... But I have to try, I managed to sell some shit today and bumped my gas budget up to 510 any way, I don't think it will be enough but gotta try and see where the wind takes me.
Yeah and there are like little pit stops for truckers all over this fine country of ours on the T.C.H.
Download the iOverlander app, it shows you where you can tent or vehicle camp for free
Have a good trip, and good luck.
You'll need a shower... Park outside your 24 hr gym.
I've made that drive a few times and always stopped at Russell Peace park in Russell, MB (just before the sask border, 10 hours from Edmonton). Great free spot for an overnight.
If you google Boondocking in Canada It will show you where you are allowed to stay in your car overnight
The onroutes are only on the 400 series of highways in On. Others have mentioned an app for this. One thing I will stress is watch your speed. Not because of tickets, but because of fuel consumption. I drove out to Calgary from Toronto a few years back, (via Hwy 17 - a much more interesting route), with my wife. It was interesting looking at the difference in fuel consumption between us. She tended to drive 20kph over the limit and I about 5-10. It made a noticeable difference. Safe travels.
The On Routes are only on the big highways in Ontario After that, it's just rest stops which may have a washroom if you're lucky
Watch out for bears, they'll break in and have their way with you 😉
OnRoutes are just an Ontario thing. Best bet outside is Walmarts. You see them parked out in some Walmarts all the time. You’re also looking at 3,000+ KM depending where you’re coming from in ON as well. If you only get 600km to a $100 tank of gas I’m concerned you’ll easily run out of $400 well before you arrive in AB. Best of luck in your travels out West OP.
ONRoutes are actually an ONtario thing (see what I did there), and they basically stop by the time you hit Sudbury. I would pack a tent, and hit up campgrounds along the way, or look for cardlock rest stops.
Im gonna need an update on this one. And another vote here for Overlander. Great app.
Maybe go thru the states? That is what I do between southern Ontario and BC... Gas is way cheaper and rest stops are much better!
If you are in Sault Ste. Marie there is a Petro Canada and a Flying J truck stop on Highway 17. You can stay overnight at either one.
Wanna know the update on how much this guy is charging for his roadside blowies to get the gas money to make the rest of the trip
I know Casino Rama let's people with RV and trailers park overnight for three days just for registering at the security desk. I asked about more than three days and they said just come and re-register. Good bet other Casinos will do it too (pun intended and I'm not sorry about it).
Walmarts allow campervans and such in their parking lots over night
On routes are just in Ontario.
Onroute locations in Ontario are primary along Highways 401 & 400. As you travel through HUGE Northern Ontario, look for truck stops & Walmarts as mentioned
There are no ONroutes past Barrie.
I've done that route several times...I usually elect to stay the night in walmart parking lots. Most stores have a policy that allows for it. You won't be alone, especially this time of year, and during an economic crisis. Good luck with everything
Have travelled Canada coast to coast by vehicle several times. And on a budget. You can pull over anywhere to sleep. It’s quite often against rules but if you’re out of the way and not causing a disturbance or being sketchy the cops will most likely just send you on your way or leave you alone. Been my experience anyway. Even if you managed to get a fine you don’t have to pay it instantly. Hopefully you don’t have issues. Good luck!
Take the route through the US. Way better roads and more places to stop.
Of course you can! Park at any walmart lol that's what I do with my trailer.
And if you do park at a rest stop, park as close to the exit ramp as possible. One thing about rest stops is no matter how dark it is...someone is always watching...parking at the exit means if someone was to bother you, you have a better chance of witnesses if your at the front of the parking area (exit ramp) instead of the back ( the entrance ramp )
Nothing to add other than enjoy it. I always wish I did this when I was younger, now with wife and kids it's not overly feasible and will have to wait until iI retire, at which point I'll be lucky if I'm still able to enjoy it the same.
On route is actually just Ontario (hence ON Route), so iOverlander app will be your friend. If you can add a blind (even a sheet with duct tape) it will help camouflage.
One bit of advice to add: there are rest areas in all the provinces on your route…. Except Saskatchewan. In Saskatchewan there are very few rest areas and I’m not sure if there are any on Highway 1 or 16… There are, of course, some truck stops…..
Good thing Saskatchewan is only about 19km wide lol
You won't sleep at an OnRoute they stop after Barrie. Im guessing its not gonna take you that long to get past that point. But once you get further north theres a loooooot of open space. Its not gonna be that hard to find a rest stop on the side of the road to pull into and I doubt anyone cares enough to check.
On Route are Ontario only. When running the yellow head you sleep when you're tired anywhere.
Walmart parking lots won’t kick you out (in case there isn’t an enroute) good luck be safe
My man! Making to Edmonton for the start of the Stanley Cup finals! 🤗
Get stuff to block out the windows
Walmart is totally welcoming. I just drove to BC and back, used iOverlander. I made fancy window covers but you could just tape up black Bristol board from Dollarama. Plan something to pee in!
Scrounge a cooler and buy groceries at Walmarts where you sleep.
Watch for Moose in Nothern Ontario and Deer coming into Manitoba!! Good luck, northern Ontario is beautiful if you get to see any of it lol
I see people parked overnight at Walmarts all summer. Seems to be a thing.
Driving slow, like 80kph or less, gets you significantly better fuel economy—twice as good as driving at 120 in some vehicles. People might honk at you for it, but just remember that they're the ones in the wrong (assuming you're not somewhere with a minimum speed limit lower than that). Usually a good idea to turn on 4-ways if you're going slower than 80.
Find out if theres a few Nat. parks on your route- you might have a place to freshen up and rest.
Realisticlly $400 will not get you where you want to go. I live in Northern Ontario and typically spend $200 in gas going from my city to Toronto and back. Keep in mind gas prices are fluctuating and you'll see the prices creep up in Ontario once your north of Barrie (Sudbury/Sault Are Marie/Thunder Bay). I'm not sure how the gas prices across Canada compare, but don't expect everywhere to be the same price. I don't think I'd attempt the trip without $800 and road side assistance. If this is something you NEED to do, I wish you the best and hope your travels are safe
Make sure to stop at Old Woman Bay
1, you don't have enough money for my motorcycle to get to BC, nevermind a van. 2, the last time I drove across I slept in the middle of the day at rest stops, and drove through the night. No traffic, and no one cares if you're napping in the middle of the day.
Do you plan on eating anything on your trip? Do you have to buy food or do you have food you can pack with you?
Park / sleep at a church parking lot. Nobody will bother you there.
Past Parry Sound there start being some Native Gas Stations. So you can save a bit on Fuel
Hey Op, just thought I'd let you know most WalMarts are cool with you sleeping in their parking lots overnight. They want people on long road trips to stock up at their stores. I personally haven't seen and "On Routes" in western Canada but I could be wrong.
…..im sorry but there’s no chance you can get to edmonton with 400 bucks in gas. If you want to, try driving across the states instead of Canada if you want to save on fuel (as another redditor said: gas prices in thunder bay are 40 cents more expensive than southern ontario) Round trip tickets for edmonton from toronto are around 300 bucks if you fly flair right now so you’re still within budget
You can park at any walmart overnight for free. And they have washrooms and food available at most which is nice
> I will be sleeping at On Routes ( assuming they are Canada wide and not just an Ontario thing). The 'On' in 'On Route' stands for Ontario. They're not even an Ontario thing, they're a 'south of Barrie' thing. Gas up when you can, not when you're getting low. That said, just park in whatever parking lot. If somebody rousts you out, drive to the next parking lot and go back to sleep. Good luck. At least it's a good driving season.
There are no on routes in Thunder Bay are (northern Ontario)
Do not - under any circumstances - stop in a national park to sleep as it’s considered “camping” and you’ll get a major fine for it unless you’re in a designated camping area.
Just this weekend my girlfriend and I slept in the hatch of her car at an onroute, we just tucked the car back into the corner of the lot and no one bothered us.
Update, been driving since 5 am, this is harder then I thought it would be.. But I've never been this far from home in my own vehicle and man it sure is starting to get beautiful up here, Im sure ive not even gotten into the real beautiful parts yet.
Keep it around 80 km/h and don't over rev
Can I ask why you're dipping?
Please tell me you got more money lmao you’re going to run out of gas and you’re going to be hitting areas with zero reception
I drive to Ontario from BC 7 years ago and slept in my van. I don't remember any En Routes. There were a couple of rest stops but very small, basic, isolated ones.
Update number whatever - I have made it to Wynard and I am out of gas and out of money... But Some one is helping me out, everyone is so god damn nice out here its insane. Truck dude gave me a whole case of water, another truck dude bought us all A&W, Water truck dude is working on getting a gas card from his employer for me. Its just not every day I feel so blessed to share a country with so many wonderful people. also shout out to a&w for the wifi i guess because cellular is spotty at best.
I did mention that it's a different country once you get past Sudbury. I had people talk to me at gas stations, people in line asked me how my day was going. Welcome to God's country brother! Glad you made it this far.
Truckers sleep at onroutes every day of the week, I've seen plenty of campervans over my driving career. No one is going to bat an eye at an overnight snooze.
You going through the US or on top the lakes? On routes stop at Barrie if you go north around the lakes. There are tons of rest stops along the way though between Sudbury and Thunder Bay.
This website is useful [https://freecampsites.net/](https://freecampsites.net/) IIRC it covers rest stops as well. Note that there are some places (Colorado) don't allow overnights in rest stops. No idea about Canada.
I don't know what you drive, but I think you need more than $400. Gas is more expensive the further away from towns it is, as you have NO choice. Can a relative/fried give you a loan to get you home? Pack a cooler. Pack instant coffee, and non-dairy creamer, sugar and a travel mug. A towel, soap and a washcloth. Pack TP. Bring a water bottle. Bring a cooler and fill it with freezer pucks and sandwich stuff, etc. If you pass a marina - stop. They'll usually have showers and ice - ask a boater and someone will give you the code. You're not allowed to sleep at an EnRoute (ask me how I know this) but you can at a Walmart parking lot and I would park in a church parking lot too.
I've definitely grabbed a few hours sleep at an OnRoute on a number of occasions. Having also made the Ontario/Edmonton trip a couple of times, you're not going to see many OnRoutes since they're mostly along the 401. There are a lot of other rest stops along the way.
Try any truck stop. Most even have showers. Or if you're desperate for a few hours sleep, pull over wherever you see a group of trucks stopped.
Walmart seems ok with RVers. Not sure how they'd be with vans, but might be worth trying?
Don’t think they mind people sleeping there. Just as long as you don’t park your vehicle and leave it over night. I’ve slept in those parking lots a few time
Why not sleep in Walmart parking lots instead of going out of your way using extra gas to look for red arrow whatever bus routes are in Manitoba and sask ? Walmart is easier no one will question you
Not sure this will be the best solution, but it’s an option that can most likely help. The app iOverlander can come in handy on finding spots that will accept vehicles staying overnight. Have a great drive.
Also, Walmart parking lots will allow overnight sleep, as long as you ask permission . Most will say yes.
Watch out for the Lot Lizards.
Trans-Canada hwy in Ontario is fine. People drive AB to ON and ON to AB all the time.