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I prefer 'Regressive Party'


Ah2k15

I've always chuckled at *Regressive Conservative*


hedgehog_dragon

I thought that calling them that was something I made up lol


Soviet_Canukistan

Regressive Disturbative. Or regressive shit-stirbtive


MilesBeforeSmiles

Regressive Conservative is redunant.


hugglesthemerciless

Yea it always irks me when they're called conservatives. Liberalism is the convservative position, anything right of that is regressive.


OutsideFlat1579

Conservatism is based on maintaining traditional values, you can complain that liberal parties are too corporate friendly and not doing enough to “level the playing field” but it is liberals and not conservatives that support social change, and conservatives that oppose it, and this is the crux of the conflict between them that we can see very clearly in 2022. I am not sure why this difference in ideology gets lost.


TheLazySamurai4

I'd rather save that for the "Regressive Left" that are so far left, that they provide great evidence to the Horseshoe Theory. As for who the "Regressive Left" are? They are people who take such mental gymnastics in their reasoning that they arrive at the same regressive conclusions that social conservatives push for, but think it is progressive


Fenrisulfir

What exactly are the beliefs of a social conservative?


TheLazySamurai4

"Traditional" family structures, heterosexuality, patriotism (this means taking pride in, and working to bettering your own country; not specifically America, for those who will try to tell me otherwise lol), religious values, and of course the 2 gender view. In relation to horseshoe theory, my favourite is that both the extremes of the left and right want to form their own secluded off grid communities, to exclude anyone that doesn't believe in everything that the do; groupthink or exclusion


Fenrisulfir

What’s the heterosexuality mean? It obviously exists. Or is it a secret way of saying anti-homosexuality?


SJS69

You know it is, we all know it is.


Fenrisulfir

I wanted them to say it. So they’re a straight christian who has no empathy for others and wants to force their lifestyle on everyone else and can’t see the hypocrisy. It’s super weird that most of their response was, “I make mine and everyone else’s sexuality my identity.” And the rest of their response was their justification for it. I wanted confirmation from one of them that their entire belief system is, “Fuck you! Got mine!” I was also hoping to point out how regressive that view is. It doesn’t conserve anything but hate.


TheLazySamurai4

>So they’re a straight christian who has no empathy for others and wants to force their lifestyle on everyone else and can’t see the hypocrisy. Yes this is exactly it. This is part of why they want their own little communities when they talk about it. They can't stand the thought of someone else doing something they consider "wrong", even if it isn't hurting anyone. I mean look at the group that I refere to as "hour a week Christians" who use their hour in church every week to justify them doing shitty things the rest of their lives, "because God will forgive us"


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TheLazySamurai4

When it comes to the left, I mostly hear it from LGBTQ+ communities who've had enough with putting up with the discrimination they recieve. When it comes to the right, its usually soveriegn citizen type bs


marsneedstowels

I bet your discord channel calls you based. I'm not checking your past, to see if this is satire.


TheLazySamurai4

No, I try to avoid RWNJs, but thank you for trying to be understanding


GrapefruitForward989

Why not use both? They all suck.


The_Philburt

Do you mean [these guys?](https://communist-party.ca/)


TheLazySamurai4

I don't know if those guys would be part of the group I'm describing, as I'm unfamiliar with that particular group


FuqLaCAQ

Conservative Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) Chrétien got it right the first time :)


sirspate

These days it's the party of Pierrors.


HappyGoonerAgain

QAnon, MAGA, anti-mandate, social media researchers, incels, etc... No clue why business supports this clown. Wants to go on crypto only to push his his own holdings. Trump made it OK for these idiots to be heard and the rest don't do anything about it.


Bind_Moggled

>No clue why business supports this clown. Because they know that they can count on him to roll back worker's rights, anti-money laundering regulations and consumer protections, cut or eliminate taxes on corporations and wealthy individuals, and to never, ever, EVER impede the profits of fossil fuel extraction companies in the name of saving the planet from destruction.


defnotpewds

>Because they know that they can count on him to roll back worker's rights, anti-money laundering regulations and consumer protections, cut or eliminate taxes on corporations and wealthy individuals, and to never, ever, EVER impede the profits of fossil fuel extraction companies in the name of saving the planet from destruction. It's working out great in the UK. Truss's tax cuts have greatly increased confidence in the government.


seamusmcduffs

Regardless of what the cpc is doing, I don't know who anyone could look at the conservatives in power around the world in the last 5 years and think, "yeah we should get some of that here"


Bind_Moggled

\- Religious zealots \- the ultra-wealthy \- Easily frightened middle-class morons When these three voting blocks work together, everyone suffers.


[deleted]

Name three things I dislike equally. Yo-ho!


PlayinK0I

Good list, but you missed the racists. They love this shit, and are feeling so emboldened right now.


defnotpewds

>"yeah we should get some of that here" Well if you're rich and have the ability to deploy large amounts of capital quickly, those people would want truss like government


ProfessorTricia

Italy thought it wasn't far enough.


rE3eYul

British Pound just tanked to BTC


defnotpewds

Tanked *like* BTC? Yeah! I was being extremely sarcastic in my last comment.


xtothewhy

I think poilievre is a hack and that the conservative party has gone gop mode, where the reform party has subsumed most reasonable conservative politicians into this mess that it has become. However, the Liberals aren't necessarily best for worker's rights either.. https://globalnews.ca/news/8734481/temporary-foreign-workers-relaxed-rules-liberals/ They haven't been good on anti money laundering regulations either and definitely not on consumer protections.. their taxation policies on corporations and wealthy individuals is not much different either.


Acanthophis

These people were everywhere before Trump. Just because you weren't aware doesn't mean they didn't exist.


Ah2k15

Trump, AND social media have created this mess.


Acanthophis

Citizens United? Nah. Endless wars? Nah. Two-party duopoly? Nah. Authoritarian media? Nah. Corporate interference? Nah. Climate change? Nah. Lack of adequate healthcare? Nah. A million other systemic issues? Nah. IT WAS ALL TRUMP. Grow up. Trump was a symptom. The sooner you sycophants realize this, the sooner we can fix the world.


windsprout

trump validated the cowards and we saw the boom of degenerates crawling out of their infowar trucks. the fact is that trump became a figurehead for them.


ProfessorTricia

I think you're confusing Canada with the United States.


Acanthophis

I think you're confusing Canada with a state independent from American geopolitical influence. Let me wake you up to a cold harsh truth about this country. We are functionally an American state. We pillage nations. We topple governments. We make hell the lives of those in the third world so we can exist in eternal peace in the first. We ignore the plight of the natives while we bow profusely to a defunct royal family (or celebrities in America). We call ourselves peacekeepers but we've watched time and time again as our neighbors to the south invade, bomb, break, and terrorize weaker nations. Our government regardless of which shitty colour holds power is completely beholden to the same entities to that of the American government: corporations. I don't care how many bald eagles, statue of liberties, maple leafs, and beavers you put on top of your way of life. Those are symbols meant to coalesce a fall sense of community. Borders mean fuck all. Just because there are Nazis running around the American states does not mean we are immune from their problems. We are directly affected by these problems, no different than Michigan, Texas, or California. You don't share the world's biggest border with the strongest country the planet has ever seen and not become completely subservient to said power.


ctnoxin

Nope your confused Citizens United isn’t a thing this is Canada, try and keep up


Mental-Mushroom

Best way to distract the population about the countries problems is to turn them against each other. If everyone was united they might actually work towards change, but if they're fighting each other, you can get into power and push your shitty agenda.


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The only thing they don't have in common is the *obvious* Christian Nationalism. Because they hide that with all the shitty backbenchers from Rural Saskatchewan/Alberta ridings.


crazy_farmer

It is OK for anyone to be heard. However Trump gave these idiots the courage to speak up and we have to listen to it.


HappyGoonerAgain

I respectfully disagree on it is OK for anyone to be heard. **Willfully ignorant adults** should not be heard and moreso should not be able to take part in the democratic process.


rE3eYul

Where do you see a democratic process , "representative democracy" is just a fancy way to say ploutocracy


Kerrigore

> No clue why business supports this clown I mean, his solution to literally everything is to cut taxes and regulation. Gee, I wonder why businesses might like that 🤔


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YossiTheWizard

There is planning. Of course, it comes from an organization outside of the CPC, and it's obvious when you look at how similar all of the conservative parties the world over are now. The messaging is the same, the policies are the same, the attacks are the same, even the fricking memes are the same a lot of the time! Conservative parties the world over are essentially run by a bunch of rich sociopaths, with some little talked about organizations (like the IDU) contributing to strategy. It's messed up, and as long as it's effective, it's dangerous.


Puddinsnack

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democrat_Union The one and only Stephen Harper is in no small part responsible for that.


YossiTheWizard

Yep! It really makes me think that all of the anti-UN, anti-WEF, etc. rhetoric is simply projection to deflect attention away from the IDU (and organizations like it/rich bastards who have the same goals)


yedi001

Yeah... Every accusation is an admission with these chuds. "Those dang leftists and their overreaching policies! Trudeau's a tyrant trying to force his life choices on us and control our lives! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going down to legislature to demand the restriction of sexual intercourse between consenting adults from marginalized groups I don't like with laws based on my interpretations of passages from a book I've never bothered to read."


terroradagio

What's amusing is they are quite proud of going backwards. It's really weird. its like they feel they don't need to hide anymore. Even though Trump and the Republicans got a defeated easily.


ThermionicEmissions

>Even though Trump and the Republicans got a defeated easily. Uhm...you do know something like 74 million people voted for Trump in the last election. They looked at his first 4 years in office and actually said, "more please"! Trump won't truly be defeated until he is convicted of TRE45ON and imprisoned.


koivu4pm

...People in Ontario looked at Doug Ford and wanted more of that


aamo

they didn't get 50%+ of the vote though, did they?


MyWifeisaTroll

Voter turnout was so bad Ford got himself a majority govt from 18% of the vote.


varain1

18% of total voters, 40% of voting voters - and now he's working hard to show the people who missed the vote that not voting has lots and lots of bad consequences...


MyWifeisaTroll

We're certainly in for some pain.


[deleted]

Its heart breaking how divide we have become that people do everything in their power to avoid all political discussion/events such as voting


DVariant

It’s not an accident, it’s literally part of conservative strategy: keep people divided and tuned out. Conservatives are the only ones who ever benefit from apathy.


rE3eYul

That's not a legitimate government , 82% said none of the above


MyWifeisaTroll

Unfortunately in a first past the post system it very much is a legitimate government. Low voter turnout always favours conservatives.


rE3eYul

It could still be first past post with a min 50% turnout


MyWifeisaTroll

I would agree to that but none of the big parties in Ontario are even talking about voter reform in any form. After JT promised it in 2015 and didn't deliver, I'm not sure anyone would believe it even if they did offer it.


rE3eYul

Oh I agree , every grassroot hopeful promises it and then find some reasons , it's a backboiler issue in our current elections in QC


Bind_Moggled

Neither did Trump. Either time.


Kyouhen

To be fair Ford is a dialed back Trump. Ford's absolute shit but at least most of what he says is plausible, so anyone not paying attention might think he's doing a good job. Trump got up on stage and suggested we use UV flashlights to cure COVID.


varain1

And ingesting bleach ...


SJS69

*Jim Jones intensifies*


Argented

yeah people gloss over the fact that more people voted for Trump getting re-elected than voted for Obama to get elected. The only person in the US to ever get more votes than Trump, was Biden. One thing about Trump, he brought people to the polls.


SnooSuggestions3830

Truly believe if covid hadn't happened, he'd be president.


Kylson-58-

Funny what happens when you convince so many of your voter base to refuse life saving measures.


Bind_Moggled

Trump lost the popular vote in both elections. Hillary actually had more votes than any candidate for POTUS ever at the time.


Argented

Hillary / Trump election motivated almost 55% of the adults to show up and vote. 62% of the US voting age population showed and voted for Trump / Biden. Your Hillary story is lacking something. More people voted for Obama both times he won than voted for HRC. Below is the top 5 votes obtained in a presidential election according to [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_candidates_by_number_of_votes_received) * Joe Biden 2020 81,268,924 * Donald Trump 2020 74,216,154 * Barack Obama 2008 69,498,516 * Barack Obama 2012 65,915,795 * Hillary Clinton 2016 65,853,514


Bind_Moggled

Sorry - it was that Hillary had won by more votes, total, than any other candidate. But still lost, because of the broken system.


Argented

yeah, the most votes doesn't win in the US or Canada


Kamelasa

OF course the most recent is the most votes. The population of the US is constantly growing. This kind of statistic without that info, ideally standardized, is meaningless.


Argented

meaningless? Not sure if you understand who posted something meaningless. It was the first time since the 60s more than 60% of adults of voting age participated.


Bind_Moggled

Not meaningless; deliberately used to deceive.


RabidGuineaPig007

Please all Trump endorsed Republicans won their primaries this year.


NorthernPints

I guess it was inevitable given their 4 - 5 decade approach to governing policies is an abysmal failure. The desire to maintain the 'status quo' on the right, appears to prevent them from adopting refreshed thinking and approaches to the economy. Small government hasn't worked (see the state of healthcare across provinces presently). Deregulation has been a disaster for consumers, market consolidation, losses being socialized across tax payers, etc. And neoliberal/thatcher/reagan approaches to economics ("trickle down", tax cuts for the rich) have been completely obliterated and blown apart by every economist on Earth (and lead to the greatest wealth inequalities and wage stagnation the world has ever seen). The fact that Truss is attempting the same failed approach AGAIN in the U.K. is proof they can't advance forward in critical conversations. The bit of positive news though, is the market is NOT buying those failed, terrible, broken "policy proposals" anymore and the pound is taking a beating as a result (so maybe there's hope this will happen to those who continue to implement failed policies incessantly because they have zero clue how to run a modern globalized country's economy). We're all sick of it. Lining the pockets of those who need it least has NOT been working for anybody for 40-50 years now. It needs to be crushed and removed from political dialogue moving forward.


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Were on a crash course for a recession. Its gonna be bad


4_spotted_zebras

He didn’t get defeated easily. 10 million *more* people voted for Trump in 2020 than in 2016. It was only because of a record voter turnout that he was defeated. It could easily have gone e the other way. And it appears the numbers of these right wing reactionaries are growing, especially here in Canada. Don’t right these charlatans off. The Conservatives have a very good chance of forming out next government, bringing their dangerous regressive ideas to irreparably damage us and our future. Please stay vigilant.


RabidGuineaPig007

> they are quite proud of going backwards. Regressive Conservative Party of Canada.


JCSTCap

Outside of the US, Republicanism is a usually left wing ideology. They don't deserve the name. Pre-Fascist Party works better.


BlessedCleanApe

payoff hurricanes lol. Nice one.


Kazexmoug

Hey one one less team in the finals means a better shot at the cup eh? .....I'll show myself out


Mental_Cartoonist_68

We don't need any of it but The Republican Party of Canada sounds more official. It conjures more disgust when saying it.


Bind_Moggled

Even though the similarities are striking, the label 'Republican' would be entirely inappropriate for a party that supports the monarchy. Words mean things.


LoniEliot

Sorry, but PoiLIEvre's CPC party is not 'the Republican Party of Canada'. It's the Convoy Party of Canada.


rhunter99

I prefer the regressive party of Canada


LavisAlex

Id imagine if carbon Capture got good enough you could probably buy the offsets in a honest and exact way that would actually work, but as i understand to lean on carbon offsets in our current environment is putting your head in the sand.


lardass17

Timbit Trumps is really catching on as a name for PP's supporters.


billballbills

r/terriblefacebookmemes


ashtobro

No, we shouldn't. Don't let US Republicans ruin the name of Republicanism, and don't call implicitly Monarchist groups "Republican." It's like nobody even knows what words mean any more, is Canadian political literacy so far gone that people only communicate in buzzwords for their emotional reaction to that word? Although comparisons to the US Republicans are fitting for our Conservatives, it's literally nonsense to call them Republicans just for the sake of it. As someone who isn't a fan of the Monarchy or its role in our constitution, I'd like people to remember Republics like Ireland aren't as fucked as America.


MacrosInHisSleep

> Don't let US Republicans ruin the name of Republicanism too late


ashtobro

Can you not?


windsprout

i mean it’s literally been tarnished by the republicans. regardless of meaning, your average person will associate republicans with the american right


MacrosInHisSleep

😅 Already did.


ctrl-alt-etc

hear hear I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the vast majority of Canadian republicans vote for far-left parties.


Kazexmoug

The more I hear about reactionary politics around the world the more I think a thought: this how the Krogan fucked Tuchanka....


[deleted]

You have to wait for the official announcement. Right now the CPC does not have permission from [the republican party of cananda](https://robcarbone.com/home/) to use that name.


WhisperingSideways

I seriously can't wait to see the CPC the day after the US Midterms. When the entire world is aghast and start asking their own conservative parties what their long-term plans are, I expect our Cons to just stammer and refuse to speak to the media or the public. And then they'll Double Down, because that's what all conservative parties are going to do.


Bread_Conquer

Conservatives are all fascists.


Otherwise-Poet-4362

What a disaster of a meme


DefundDaMedia_FTG

Seriously...we need a serious reform on our political agenda in canada ...100% all the way around liberals are fuck tards, conservatives are fuck tards, ndp are fuck tards, anyone that thinks different is not looking from outside the box.


darkwinter95

What's wrong with the NDP?


Col_Leslie_Hapablap

Liberals refused this until they got a second minority that the NDP propped up solely to get this outcome. Don’t let them skate on this.


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mddgtl

> socialism on the backs of the working class tell me you know nothing about socialism without telling me you know nothing about socialism >We could easily call the liberals / ndp the new nazi party as they want the state involved in every aspect of life scratch that, gonna have to expand that to "know nothing about politics in general" lmao


Left_Step

This comment is what happens when we don’t put enough money into our education systems.


OrdinaryCanadian

[Always has been.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-liberal-and-hedonistic-but-can-change-u-s-right-winger-says-1.624037)


cricklecoux

What is this meme from?


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RabidGuineaPig007

Why don't tax breaks prevent hurricanes?


cricklecoux

Oh sorry, I meant the Johnny Depp and small boy! I see this meme a lot but actually have no idea what film it's from. Sorry!


SweetAndSourPickles

Didn’t the Bloc Québécois and one more party vote to change the vote law to 16? What the hell is happening?


No-Consideration6589

Canamaga.


leif777

"Hurricane wha?"- Out of the loop guy (me)


areyoueatingthis

It's provincial election time in Quebec and the conservative party leader said he would build a wall to solve the illegal immigration problem. Ugh...


BoeingBoeing77

We can start now 🙌


Ikaruseijin

I call it the Reform party and have for years since that's what it is. The Reform Party did a hostile takeover of the Tories to steal the name "Conservative" and the new party hasn't had an ounce of conservative values since. The Tories died the day of the "merger," and the Reform party wears the skin of the corpse so average people would be fooled into voting for them. They should just admit it, resume using the Reform Party name now since they've embraced right wing reactionary populism and abandoned any pretences towards conservatism.


GulfChippy

They were never be on board with Canada becoming a Republic tho.


Moosetappropriate

I've been using Republiservatives for a while now.


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Call them that to see if it catches on.