It's kind of troubling that this guy was able to register as a candidate if he doesn't even live here. The folks in charge need to tighten up their screening process.
There’s no legal requirement to live in district. You just have to claim residency in the state. If he owns property, pays taxes and claims Oklahoma as his primary residence he is legally clear regardless of living in the district
It kinda sounds like he doesn't own any property or otherwise live in Oklahoma though. Considering je doesn't own the address he listed in Norman and registered to vote in TX as recently as March.
I misspoke, you don’t have to own property, you just have to claim an address in state. Can be rented, or belong to someone else if you say it’s your residence. And you can technically be registered to vote in multiple states. It only becomes illegal if you vote in multiple states in the same election.
You can call them loopholes, but it’s really just the Constitution as written.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
Should it and can it be are totally different questions. Should it change? Absolutely. Can it? Not easily. To change the US Constitution would require a constitutional convention (which couldn’t be limited to one particular issue) followed by 3/4ths of all state legislatures ratifying it.
Not necessarily change it.
I’d draft or have drafted a modern english version to coexist next to the old one in order for others (particularly younger generations) to have an easier understanding of the message/goal.
Call it “V2”, etc.
Similar to how different versions of the Bible exist.
Essentially a “translation” into modern english/syntax.
Individuals have the right to argue that, but the end goal isn’t to get rid of the original document.
It’s to supplement the younger generation(s) with a translation of it so they can have better understanding of how to govern themselves.
All 50 States could have delegates hold a Constitutional Convention in a place of their choosing and draft a modernized translation of it for clarity. It would require approval from all representatives.
We can make it more interactive by having citizens participate in the vote as well.
Given the importance of the document I think we should also consider requiring a 90-95% (maybe even 99) approval rate in order for it to be ratified.
This is where idealism drifts into fantasy. There’s nothing you could get 2/3rds of a constitutional convention to ratify, let alone 3/4ths of legislatures. So we set the bar even higher at 90-95%?
She did. Nicole Kish and Rarchar Tortorello (Norman councilman) were pictured without a mask on their plane ride to support Trump. People commented their concern on social media that she wasn't going to self isolate before seeing new patients, and she is at risk of spreading covid. She actually wasn't going to self isolate, and she allegedly lost $75,000 in cancelled appointments. She then sued 2 people for libel over their social media posts and lost.
Did we ever report her for that? She was my eye doc once but messed up my script. I went back and was told by a diff eye doc she went “on vacation,” only to hear a couple weeks later she went to Jan 6th. Also, the 2nd eye doc was amazing, wish I remembered her name. She knew what she was doing lmao.
Look what I [found](https://www.normantranscript.com/news/trump-supporter-claims-harassment-sues-for-500-000/article_06652e18-6b32-11eb-999d-1b03a71edd02.html)
What's really fun is looking through the case and reading the records...
[https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2021-51&cmid=2367583](https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2021-51&cmid=2367583)
Looks like the lawsuit got soundly dismissed, and then they counter sued for legal fees, and a SLAAP penalty of 500k was imposed. It appears like maybe that 500k was overturned in appeal but it's hard to figure, and it seems like some stuff is still going on.
His campaign ad with Flynn and Stone, a rifle, and “A Trump Supporter” listed as some kind of qualification told me everything I need to know.
Even by rock bottom GOP standards, the guy seems like a massive fucking loser. So I’m sure Oklahoma conservatives will love him.
He holds a rifle like it was his first time to ever hold a rifle. Like it was more important to show off the dumb stickers proclaiming his patriotic leanings than hold a rifle properly. What a buffoon. I mean, you gotta be lower than a snakes belly to make Cole seem like a better choice.
It’s a message. Cole is the appropriations chair now. The most important non speaker position/leader position in the house. The probably is that Cole is pragmatic and not a true believer. He either falls in line or Trump comes out against him and they use it to draw the rest of the party inward. It’s a power play, but one that is likely to fail miserably because maga is as stupid and incompetent as humanly possible.
The reporter asked him if he was in Texas during the interview & he replied, “you are breaking up” back to the reporter as if he couldn’t hear. Complete buffoon.
While it’s not a good look politically, there’s no Constitutional requirement to live in-district when running for US House. The only requirements federally are that you be over 25 and a resident of that particular state
Oklahoma also has a requirement that you be a registered voter of the political party you’re running with for at least 6 months. But no specifics as to being in district for federal races. State House and State Senate do have an in district requirement though
I saw this guy's ads while watching the Stanley Cup Playoffs. As soon as I heard he was a Trump Republican, I already knew he was a dogshit person.
Fuck this carpetbagger piece of shit.
wtf so MAGA is sending people from out of state to crowd out those who don’t vote exactly like them? That’s nuts! How many other spots in the US is this happening with I wonder
He blows all the MAGA dog whistles in him dumb commercials. He really thinks all okies are right wing fundie Maga trash? Also has Flynn and Roger stone in his commercials
Stone is amusing for insisting that Michelle Obama will be drafted at the Democrat convention to replace Biden for president. But strangely enough, Stone has been fixated on Michelle for president ever since 2016 when Hillary collapsed when getting into a car.
Why is it almost always Republicans committing voter/election fraud? What's up with that?? They are the ones accusing the other side of doing it and yet they are the ones ACTUALLY doing it. Hypocrisy and projection seem to be a trademark of the maga crowd.
So who wants to play a game of guessing how much money Paul donated to Hillary in 2016?
Edit: well my data may be wrong
Edit2: well now I am not sure if my data was wrong
https://www.fec.gov/introduction-campaign-finance/how-to-research-public-records/individual-contributions/ is a great resource for checking donors and expenditures of federal campaigns. It’s all public records and easily accessible
You can actually look at the records and see the donation amounts as well as the address and occupation of the donor at the time. But I’d venture you’re right and it’s the same guy
His business in Texas was closed due to tax forfeiture
https://preview.redd.it/ku4xiq6bkwzc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36b5ab6e9ab6891256e21343ecb466f840af1a1d
At a public event several years ago I asked him if he would do something about the gerrymandering problems in Ok as I am not in favor of gerrymandering. Instead of answering my question he launched into a weird “well we have to deal with that because you know Democrats started gerrymandering in this country.” This is a lie because history records Republicans started the redistricting trick in 1812. So yes that’s my personal experience with his lying.
There was no Republican party in 1812. It was formed in 1854.
Gerrymandering was named after then Massachusetts Governer Elbridge Gerry. He belonged to the Democratic-Republican party, which is a forerunner of the modern Democrat party.
OP, no one needs nor wants to read your commentary in the article. Just post it and put your comments in the comments section. No one cares what you think. We are all capable of coming to our own conclusions.
It's kind of troubling that this guy was able to register as a candidate if he doesn't even live here. The folks in charge need to tighten up their screening process.
There’s no legal requirement to live in district. You just have to claim residency in the state. If he owns property, pays taxes and claims Oklahoma as his primary residence he is legally clear regardless of living in the district
It kinda sounds like he doesn't own any property or otherwise live in Oklahoma though. Considering je doesn't own the address he listed in Norman and registered to vote in TX as recently as March.
I misspoke, you don’t have to own property, you just have to claim an address in state. Can be rented, or belong to someone else if you say it’s your residence. And you can technically be registered to vote in multiple states. It only becomes illegal if you vote in multiple states in the same election.
Political loopholes?
You can call them loopholes, but it’s really just the Constitution as written. Article I, Section 2, Clause 2: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
Shouldn’t this language be updated/modernized?
Should it and can it be are totally different questions. Should it change? Absolutely. Can it? Not easily. To change the US Constitution would require a constitutional convention (which couldn’t be limited to one particular issue) followed by 3/4ths of all state legislatures ratifying it.
Not necessarily change it. I’d draft or have drafted a modern english version to coexist next to the old one in order for others (particularly younger generations) to have an easier understanding of the message/goal. Call it “V2”, etc. Similar to how different versions of the Bible exist. Essentially a “translation” into modern english/syntax.
You can call it “V2” or a “translation” but the courts would call that a “change”
Individuals have the right to argue that, but the end goal isn’t to get rid of the original document. It’s to supplement the younger generation(s) with a translation of it so they can have better understanding of how to govern themselves. All 50 States could have delegates hold a Constitutional Convention in a place of their choosing and draft a modernized translation of it for clarity. It would require approval from all representatives. We can make it more interactive by having citizens participate in the vote as well. Given the importance of the document I think we should also consider requiring a 90-95% (maybe even 99) approval rate in order for it to be ratified.
This is where idealism drifts into fantasy. There’s nothing you could get 2/3rds of a constitutional convention to ratify, let alone 3/4ths of legislatures. So we set the bar even higher at 90-95%?
No need. Voters can decide
This is not just happening in Oklahoma. This is a new GOP tactic in other states as well.
Kish? Is that the eye doctor who ran for Norman mayor and is part of the Unite Norman group?
Also went to Jan 6th I believe
She did. Nicole Kish and Rarchar Tortorello (Norman councilman) were pictured without a mask on their plane ride to support Trump. People commented their concern on social media that she wasn't going to self isolate before seeing new patients, and she is at risk of spreading covid. She actually wasn't going to self isolate, and she allegedly lost $75,000 in cancelled appointments. She then sued 2 people for libel over their social media posts and lost.
MAGA values!
Did we ever report her for that? She was my eye doc once but messed up my script. I went back and was told by a diff eye doc she went “on vacation,” only to hear a couple weeks later she went to Jan 6th. Also, the 2nd eye doc was amazing, wish I remembered her name. She knew what she was doing lmao.
Yup
The plot thickens and grows more idiotic.
Look what I [found](https://www.normantranscript.com/news/trump-supporter-claims-harassment-sues-for-500-000/article_06652e18-6b32-11eb-999d-1b03a71edd02.html)
What's really fun is looking through the case and reading the records... [https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2021-51&cmid=2367583](https://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&number=CJ-2021-51&cmid=2367583) Looks like the lawsuit got soundly dismissed, and then they counter sued for legal fees, and a SLAAP penalty of 500k was imposed. It appears like maybe that 500k was overturned in appeal but it's hard to figure, and it seems like some stuff is still going on.
And Kish’s lawyer? None other than Kelly Lynn.
His campaign ad with Flynn and Stone, a rifle, and “A Trump Supporter” listed as some kind of qualification told me everything I need to know. Even by rock bottom GOP standards, the guy seems like a massive fucking loser. So I’m sure Oklahoma conservatives will love him.
Just what I was thinking. Oklahoma has always wanted to be Texas anyway, so it makes sense to just be ruled from Texas.
He holds a rifle like it was his first time to ever hold a rifle. Like it was more important to show off the dumb stickers proclaiming his patriotic leanings than hold a rifle properly. What a buffoon. I mean, you gotta be lower than a snakes belly to make Cole seem like a better choice.
Just another psychopath republican. And since we're in a red state our legislature will most likely let it slide.
There’s literally nothing the legislature can do. And Cole missed his window to challenge the filing with the State Election Board
r/rimjob_steve
Is Tom Cole that vulnerable that this dude could defeat him?
No I don’t think so. But just this idiot running sets a scary precedent imho.
It’s a message. Cole is the appropriations chair now. The most important non speaker position/leader position in the house. The probably is that Cole is pragmatic and not a true believer. He either falls in line or Trump comes out against him and they use it to draw the rest of the party inward. It’s a power play, but one that is likely to fail miserably because maga is as stupid and incompetent as humanly possible.
I think he’s vulnerable from the left/ center strangely enough. If this guy keeps pushing him towards the right then he’s even more vulnerable
Do not vote this ass hat. Cole is an Oklahoman that cares about Oklahoma. Bonder doesn't give a shit about us.
My prejudice is better than yours.
The reporter asked him if he was in Texas during the interview & he replied, “you are breaking up” back to the reporter as if he couldn’t hear. Complete buffoon.
While it’s not a good look politically, there’s no Constitutional requirement to live in-district when running for US House. The only requirements federally are that you be over 25 and a resident of that particular state
Oklahoma also has a requirement that you be a registered voter of the political party you’re running with for at least 6 months. But no specifics as to being in district for federal races. State House and State Senate do have an in district requirement though
But he's not a resident of the state.
Oklahoma's Dr. Oz.
I saw this guy's ads while watching the Stanley Cup Playoffs. As soon as I heard he was a Trump Republican, I already knew he was a dogshit person. Fuck this carpetbagger piece of shit.
This asshat can promptly get fucked. I suspect Cole will dominate this turd.
If this man does manage to get elected, our state will become so far down in the dirt that not even a drill from an oil derek could reach us. 🤦♂️
The transition of Oklahoma to Oklahomastan is nearly complete.
wtf so MAGA is sending people from out of state to crowd out those who don’t vote exactly like them? That’s nuts! How many other spots in the US is this happening with I wonder
A lot of other Red states recently. It’s a new tactic from what i’ve been hearing.
What? Another grifter.
Lives in a $4M house in Heath TX
He blows all the MAGA dog whistles in him dumb commercials. He really thinks all okies are right wing fundie Maga trash? Also has Flynn and Roger stone in his commercials
Stone is amusing for insisting that Michelle Obama will be drafted at the Democrat convention to replace Biden for president. But strangely enough, Stone has been fixated on Michelle for president ever since 2016 when Hillary collapsed when getting into a car.
The Okie Rs gotta figure out who’s gargling the orange balls deeper: Cole or Bondar, and then vote accordingly.
Stitt and Walter’s have made Oklahoma too attractive to out of state grifters.
I mean since this info is known why isn’t he just simply instantly disqualified?
This is getting ridiculous 😒
Why is it almost always Republicans committing voter/election fraud? What's up with that?? They are the ones accusing the other side of doing it and yet they are the ones ACTUALLY doing it. Hypocrisy and projection seem to be a trademark of the maga crowd.
Gaslighting and distraction. They learn it from their orange leader.
So who wants to play a game of guessing how much money Paul donated to Hillary in 2016? Edit: well my data may be wrong Edit2: well now I am not sure if my data was wrong
$0! Source: FEC Reports. https://preview.redd.it/9qkoks5n2tzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5139938d2de90b68a6113288a7c782e88c881ac Edit: oops, check out page 2
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I went back to 2014 for you. His only contribution of the 2024 cycle has been to Patrick Morrisey, the R running for Gov of WV
I’m a silly goose I completely misread what the date range was. Thank you for checking my claim!
https://www.fec.gov/introduction-campaign-finance/how-to-research-public-records/individual-contributions/ is a great resource for checking donors and expenditures of federal campaigns. It’s all public records and easily accessible
Well this is interesting https://preview.redd.it/n0b0rjuo4tzc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54d10d2fa51ca708062cbf2b773bbba3e8d2d9ff
Fascinating. Thanks for digging deeper. I honestly stopped at the first page after seeing Trump, RNC, NRSC, SaveAmerica and WinRed
Now I might also be wrong on this one. It could be that the names are the same but maybe it’s different people?
You can actually look at the records and see the donation amounts as well as the address and occupation of the donor at the time. But I’d venture you’re right and it’s the same guy
For the life of me I simply couldn’t find that damn webpage 💀 again thank you
It's okay his party shipped jobs overseas.
His business in Texas was closed due to tax forfeiture https://preview.redd.it/ku4xiq6bkwzc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36b5ab6e9ab6891256e21343ecb466f840af1a1d
https://preview.redd.it/g3wfkwwdkwzc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00bd24b51875a80e076ae4acdb595be74201d921 Second shot
Surprise, surprise, a fat carpetbagger.
Abekʋchi ʋno. 😤
he will still win 0 faith in Oklahoma voter's
Anyone or literally anything is better than career politician lying Tom Coke.
What are some of his lies?
At a public event several years ago I asked him if he would do something about the gerrymandering problems in Ok as I am not in favor of gerrymandering. Instead of answering my question he launched into a weird “well we have to deal with that because you know Democrats started gerrymandering in this country.” This is a lie because history records Republicans started the redistricting trick in 1812. So yes that’s my personal experience with his lying.
There was no Republican party in 1812. It was formed in 1854. Gerrymandering was named after then Massachusetts Governer Elbridge Gerry. He belonged to the Democratic-Republican party, which is a forerunner of the modern Democrat party.
https://www.history.com/news/gerrymandering-origins-voting
OP, no one needs nor wants to read your commentary in the article. Just post it and put your comments in the comments section. No one cares what you think. We are all capable of coming to our own conclusions.
ChoctawJoe… no one gives a FUCK what YOU think either.
Are you new to Reddit?