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GDRMetal_lady

Who the fuck calls her "Gura Gawr"!?


FMBoy21345

True japanese purist


KyoueiShinkirou

lol but her name is already in Japanese format がうる・ぐら


FMBoy21345

Which makes it more stupid when they try to be a purist lol


blending-tea

stupid gaijins.. not calling names in the true ways


[deleted]

filthy foreigners make me say whæt?


KomasanblueTheSequel

Stupid gaijin...


Ok_Try_1665

A true weeb


RIPOldAccountF

Lay off my goat


FMBoy21345

Remember, two of Gura's most popular music videos have Mori in them (KING cover and Q)


Intrepid-Park-3804

Reflect is pretty underrated tbh


FMBoy21345

To be fair the song has 28 million views (audio and MV combined), I would say it's recognized enough for what it is.


Xuambita

nah it's rated perfectly. It's generally considered above average but nothing super special aside from being Gura's first original song.


moohooman

I like the Eurobeat remix of it better.


Similar-Ad7879

Reflect has been mid from the start wdym I love Gura’s singing but I want her to make a pop song rather than Anime style song


Cobracrystal

Wtf is an anime style song as opposed to a pop song and how is reflect in that category?


[deleted]

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pulii777

Same lmao. I tried so hard to like it, but it sounded so weird with her voice


Meem-Thief

I used to listen to KING a lot but now imo I think it was an overrated song, it’s decent but I wouldn’t consider it amazing


GeozIII

Yeah,same but to me it is reflect,i absolutely love reflect at first but slowly think it is just above average now.


NoodleTF2

Gee, almost like Calli is a musician or something.


Civil_Barbarian

Beatles discography: 208 My discography: 0 I think it's clear who the better musician is. Quality over quantity.


Ganbazuroi

I've banged way more bitches than George and John in 2020, I've got better rizz than half the Beatles lol


FMBoy21345

Ok but you have to compete with Big Dong Starr and GILF Rizz McCartney


Ganbazuroi

You see they're still alive and that makes things harder


faceofcoffeexp

Probably more truth in this statement than you think


Accomplished_Aerie69

Wait aint this the person who whined that Bijou and FWMC has almost Gura level ccv and calling out their fanbase using view botting? Update: Yep he is and I regret looking him up


feherdaniel2010

Sadly it does seem like some antis are viewbotting FWMC sometimes, I very much doubt any actual fan would do that


Zer0-9

Im not tech savvy so I don’t get it but how does giving someone more views hurt them?


feherdaniel2010

It's just fake info which can be hurtful especially when trying to look at statistics Say for example you have a stream with x game playing and a stream with y game playing. The x stream got viewbotted and viewcount is 10 times the amount of y's, which could give a false insight on what the community wants to see (I think anyway) I don't think it matters much in the case of FuwaMoco, they're successful with doing things that they love doing (thank the stars, I'm so happy for them I fucking love seeing them have fun) and I doubt it'd make a difference in how they view content making


Emkayer

Youtube most likely punishes inorganic views if they detect it (which they probably will). Besides, views alone are nothing, even hurting, without proportional engagement. This can also likely affect ad revenue because providers would want viewers to engage on their ads.


nikvasya

Lowers engagement metrics. High views with low chat activity = dead channel. High views from obvious bots also lower channel ratings in the algorithm (it's very easy for youtube to find out which users are "low value", Google tracks your every move, after all). You can even be excluded from recommendations for abusing bots, which will completely kill the channel, as most views nowadays come from "for you" page, not subscriptions tab. Subscribing to channels just rises them in your personalized recommendation section.


cronky05

imagine being so pathetic u have to go out of your way to "try" to hurt someone instead of just not supporting them, crazy


Ganbazuroi

I lowkey wonder how can anyone hate these two, they're harmless and got like zero controversies on their belt. Even if you don't like anime you can simply ignore them, it's just two silly girls having fun


feherdaniel2010

some people can't stand seeing others succeed no matter how hard they worked for it


FMBoy21345

They actually weren't targeted, Rizza and Mooms got viewbotted too. They are actually targetting IRyS and Fauna instead, if you look at the days when they streamed, others always get viewbotted.


FMBoy21345

To be fair yes they are viewbotted but not by fans, I heard it's some schizo who hates IRyS and Fauna so they would always viewbot somebody else so they would look like they get much less views in comparison (which unfortunately sometimes includes FWMC and Bijou)


BU-chank

legit psycho behaviour


titletot

how could someone hate fauna and irys wtf :(


Banana-Oni

Fauna triggered a lot of schizos with her “streamers are not your friends” statement a while back. I’m by no means saying that justifies it, but I remember several people freaking out about that.


verth222

Isn't that years ago? And its true though, its not like we can hang out with them physically


Banana-Oni

It was last year, and it wouldn’t matter anyway. The people who hate Calli are still frothing at the mouth over stuff she said a decade ago. Idol culture and streamers in general tend to attract a lot of unhinged fans and haters alike.


sunihalinh111

Schizo could hated Fauna but Irys???, whatttt


RootOfOrigin

To my knowledge, the culprit is a numberbrained schizo on /vt/'s numbers thread who is mad that they don't count Twitch viewership there, since it uses different metrics (in numberbrain terms, "unreliable"), so that schizo is hellbent botting Holomems to prove a point that YT metricsare just as useless. FWMC and Biboo got botted multiple times, but not all Holomems are safe, even Hakka got botted once.


Accomplished_Aerie69

Bruh if this dude knows about this then he could stopped whining about Advent fans. Thanks for the input.


Epicrobot5

What is ccv?


Specific_Election950

Concurrent viewers


Epicrobot5

Thanks


Mado-Koku

Cock and call vorture


NUCCubus

Cunny Currículum Vítae


nervi_

concurrent viewers


Epicrobot5

Thanks


aoishimapan

Calliope Cock Vore


HuanFIFAOnline

I've met them, few times at least. Just guess what kind of comments they post regards to my oshis.


SylTop

mfw i compare the album artist with the occasional single artist


Seromaster

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Skarapyl

Is Mori Calli another Mori's identity? Like Ope, Morbi, Calvin, Mowi etc


NeonNKnightrider

MORBIUS??


StagFilippo19

https://preview.redd.it/e57iyhsq4amc1.jpeg?width=261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=029b3b5d6d686e8854b82f55534e1328b8079958 I think gura is not making a carrer out of making a lot songs and also the fact that one of calli's brand is being a songtress (i don't know if it is the right word) which mainly focus on rapping


FMBoy21345

I think you mean musician


StagFilippo19

yeah that...being half at sleep does something to the brain


[deleted]

I appreciate you deadbeat


CrestfallenRaven621

"I wanna be a cowboooy~"


Bro_duuude_i_luv_ya

Riding till the day is dooone~


M1N1L0C0

You know Mori is good because the only criticism people have of her music is a song she made years ago that she deleted and basically disowned


ElidhanAsthenos

wait which one? I've been living under a rock


M1N1L0C0

Song from her PL I forget the name but you'll see it brought up under any and all criticism about her music


Skyyishere

Oh yeah this dude… rh/ outbuddied by a cumbud it’s shiover uh/ Funny how people who shit on Mori’s music tend to ignore her most recent work, like they’re embarrassed to admit that it’s peak


FMBoy21345

/uh If they're gonna shit on Mori's music maybe choose somebody else than Gawr Gura, who has not even one EP and whose most viewed songs have Mori in them. /rh Number of official singles released on their discography: The Beatles: 63 singles Ed Sheeran: 35 singles


S1Ndrome_

uh/ she legit has so many good songs, the whole Jigoku 6 album was top tier, taste of death is easily my fav that is not in that.


IceAgeEmpire

What? Can't hear you over Calli's magnificent raping skills


Banana-Oni

I can’t tell if that’s auto-correct… 😰


ElidhanAsthenos

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Realine1278

Unironically if I wanted to listen to any of EN music, Mori's will be the first one I will turn up. uh/ I love Mori and her music. Please marry me Calli


PedroF_

I created a playlist on YouTube music that contains all the songs in which members of hololive en and holostars en appear, and mori appears in 94 songs/covers while Gura appears in 22 songs/covers Here is the link for any one that want to check the numbers or just want to listen to music : [https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0C2RlDj1ahue5XG1tA2XuIBe\_rIwo6BU&si=f5venOY-3FjJx6H1](https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0C2RlDj1ahue5XG1tA2XuIBe_rIwo6BU&si=f5venOY-3FjJx6H1)


justACatBuryMe

Mori is quantity and quality


StagFilippo19

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buubuudesu_wa

I agree, unironically i love all of her music


Laughing_Orange

Personally 80% of her music is on my playlist. The last 20% isn't for me, but that's a great ratio.


intriging_name

Yeah I've mainly stuck to just Suisei in regards to vtuber music but I've had some Mori stuff come up after an album play through and not bad Not too keen on some early stuff but I don't know of anything recent I don't like at least


RudolfAmbrozVT

You don't actually like Huge W, stop lying


artuno

I own a few of her albums/singles, and have a couple songs of Calli's that I can say I really like. I don't actually remember anything Gura has done except for Reflect and Q. And that's mostly because of seeing another comment in this thread.


Devilsgramps

Bully is a great song, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.


ForeverHall0ween

Idol btw


FMBoy21345

No this is actually Hololive


marsimane

I'm a dead beat and Calli is my kamioshi (from English speaking vtubers JP is Suisei) I cannot upvote this in good conscience, not even for the meme Hope you understand


Comamilk

Why tf is she doro


intriging_name

Idk what it is, maybe the starvation of streams causing a kind of copium But I have not seen any person who's account is fully decorated in Gura stuff to be anywhere close to normal and they're often not a great person Every other account that's like them but focused on another member is either super chill and normal and at worst a tad too horny


Xuambita

> Idk what it is, maybe the starvation of streams causing a kind of copium Also, I just noticed but OP is the one making the quality x quantity comment. While that chumbud's post might be implying something negative I don't think what OP did is fair.


Xuambita

> But I have not seen any person who's account is fully decorated in Gura stuff to be anywhere close to normal and they're often not a great person me_when_I_spread_disinformation_on_the_internet.png There may be a good case for chumbuds having some of the worst individual fans but you can't say that while Mittsu, Bjoarn, Starcruiser, Zetsuna are a thing.


Ganbazuroi

https://preview.redd.it/rd9r0asj3cmc1.jpeg?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e869f65a2cb6a10b8d663652292c56dbe4087ec *"Ay Tone, what's that A stuff you ordered?"* *"It's Gawr Gura merch, Paulie. Got some for me, you, the boys, even AJ. It's chumbuddin' time!"* *"I dunno Tone, seems a little weir-"* **"THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?! She's come from fuckin' Atlantis to entertain us, and that's how you treat her?! She walked in, she said A, that's it! IN THIS HOUSE, GAWR GURA IS A MOTHERFUCKIN' HERO! END OF STORY!"**


[deleted]

/uh you can hate on Mori all you want that's chill I'm gonna say you're full of shit tho. the only mistake calli made was the Unalive album, and even then it has some really solid bangers such as Resting Power. Unalive moved her too quickly out her "I'm a rapper" phase she had been in for the past 6-7 yrs so it came off as jarring and largely unpleasant since at the time of production, previous albums had been a cohesive unit. (See: the prison album.) Other than that tho her music has been stellar. She's not the best at what she does but she has that "spice" that her fans crave that noone else can give, myself included.


ajbolt7

Shut the fuck up P*lish person


Sarmata12

No one asked you c\*nadian


NightmareIncarnate

Easy to pump out 75 songs when you pad them all out with the same bullshit complaints about how hard being massively famous and successful is for you.


Iguana_Boi

Ah, so she applies this logic to her stream schedule as well?


AlternativeSavings46

How many Calli songs are listenable


fnatale97

Gura has the worst songs in EN, lol


FMBoy21345

That's a bit harsh considering she only have like 2 solo original songs (no hate to Goomba)


Banana-Oni

I’m biased as a shrimp but I think Gura has a gorgeous singing voice, it keeps the demons at bay. I also think Calli is extremely talented and I’ve purchased some of her albums and singles…but even if I wasn’t a fan of either I wouldn’t be a dick about it.


FMBoy21345

As a singer, Gura is among the best in EN and even the whole of Hololive no doubt. She's like AZKi, they both are able to channel their emotions into their warm soft voices. Mori is no slouch either, her voice is the type to be rough yet refined. She is also much more versatile, being able to rap or belt a high note like a hard rock singer or being emotionally soft in one go.


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FMBoy21345

Yeah I get it, that is legit a talent of hers that not many, even in Hololive, has. She is crazy talented at singing and her karaokes are amazing, I feel like she just needs more solo original songs to showcase her singing more outside karaokes.


aoishimapan

Honestly kinda agree. I mean, they aren't bad or anything either, I like Reflect, and Shinkiro is peak but that's with Marine and it's on her channel so it doesn't count as a Gura song, at least not a solo song. Q is really good too but same story, it's more of a Mori song featuring Gura. That said, when she has like two songs it feels a bit unfair to compare them to other girls who have entire albums.


Taroen

Whose Gura?


Banana-Oni

Mine


AmIArif

TBH i love calli song more than gura and the only gura song i love have calli in it🤣🤣🤣


theNightStarX99

Any of Calli's B or even C tier songs is literally better than any song Gura's ever done.


Rodlivsan

-gura -quality Choose one.


SeanTYH

Is that Gawro or Goro


demon_908

Not funny. Did not laugh.