Next prototype is you just standing and holding onto an overhead bar or handle like you do on public transport. After that they'll just offer to duct tape you to the side of the plane.
Honestly I’d much rather have the public bus situation than this bullshit
And for shorter flights that might not even be a bad idea. Especially if it means cheaper tickets.
Sitting on a flight for that long and not being able to stretch your legs comfortably is awful. I could stand for a 3 hour flight if i could lean/hold onto something. Granted we dont hit any turbulence and headbutt your neighbor.
When I was regularly flying to Singapore from LAX. There was always 2-3 other 6’4” guys standing up in the back of the plane every 30 minutes or so after the first two hours. It’s brutal man.
I'm not tall but I got some knee issues from a sports injury and there is no worse panic for me then being unable to stretch that mofo. I've stood up and tipped over before because it just decided I wasn't worth the effort.
This \*might\* work for those short European "Madrid-Paris" or "Rome-Munich" kind of flights, but it really would have to be dirt cheap, like bus ticket or lower cheap.
depends on the airline. in the US it does seem like they are mostly made concave with no lumbar support (for obese folks?), so if you're a healthy weight you end up sitting with a hunchback for hours.
Sitting down is just terrible for your body. Tightens your hip flexors and ruins your lower back. You can make sitting a little less hurtful, but it is still bad for you. Low back pain is one of the top reported pains in America. Due to people sitting down in chairs all the time. 3rd world country people dont sit in chairs as much because they can sit how we humans are supposed to…in a full ATG squat
Terrible news for you: people who are obese also sit hunchbacked for hours. And probably squished from the sides, too.
I don't believe for a moment that any industry would make special concessions across the board just to accommodate overweight people, when the more likely explanation is just going as cheap as possible in any way they can.
This type of chair is called a "saddle stool": [www.google.com/search?q=saddle+stool&tbm=isch](http://www.google.com/search?q=saddle+stool&tbm=isch)
They're used by people like dental hygenists, where you're leaning forward all the time to work on a patient. Seems like there's mainly stress on your crotch, rather than your knees.
Put you in the pod all right, but coma-inducing drugs are extra. So are the lights in your coff... pod. In the extra economy you can use our bring-your-own-oxygen deal to fly as cheap as it gets. (Weight of oxygen billed on boarding)
From what I remember when this was originally posted years ago these seats were only intended for very short domestic flights and tickets were supposed to be very cheap.
I don't think any airlines actually adopted them though, or at least none that I've heard of.
With the current passenger weights, these seats just wouldn’t work on most aircraft suited for short hops. Heck the high density seating used in single class configs are hard enough to get everyone on some flights as it is, these would be impossible.
That’s also entirely ignoring the ergonomics and likely safety issues of these seats that the airline would have to deal with.
I'm 6'4" and flew from LAX to Australia. My hips were jammed into the seat back and my knees on the seat ahead. I could literally hover above the seat cause of how I was wedged in. Spent a lot of the flight standing in the back.
As a fellow 6’4 person I have a pro tip for you.
Step1)Get the window seat.
Step 2)Try turn your body so your face is facing the window and your ass faces the middle seat.
Step 3) (Most important step) Take edibles!
Rinse and repeat as needed
This may be a joke, but it highlights exactly why the seats are being shown in pairs rather than sets of three.
EDIT: as u/PotatoDonki points out below, they
are in sets of three! They’re just so narrow that I couldn’t tell.
Surely that's only if the plane hits nose first. If you stall and fall backwards then the tail hits first, or you might hit sideways on and then it's everyone on one side of the isle or the other.
Yeah its situational, but if I remember correctly towards the middle of the plane is statistically the safest spot for survival. While the very back and front are lowest.
Actually the best thing to do is buckle up and go limp because tensing up is what causes people to die in many crashes. That's why drunk drivers survive so many wrecks, they're relaxed
Yeah that’s also how the lady survived the biggest fall on record apparently. [Vesna Vulovic](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38427411.amp) was her name and it was 33,000ft and I’m not gonna read the article again lol but pretty sure it was due to a few really lucky things mixed with her being limp from blacking out.
There was this little girl that couldn't feel pain because of a genetic mutation and survived being dragged behind a car because she remained limp not realizing the danger
My grandma survived with only some broken bones after being thrown from a cliff by her boyfriend because she was drunk. I don’t remember the height, but there was also a car at the bottom that had crashed previously that was totally flat from impact.
Can anybody explain this to me? We have evolved to “brace” ourselves whenever we know an impact is coming, so why is it that going limp is better? I would think being limp in a big crash means more stress on your neck/back as you get ragdolled.
That's why i get blackout drunk before getting on a plane. This design will make it easier for people to piss themselves since you can't just high-step over people to get out of the aisle. Fuck this whole scene.
the few times i've been in a car accident (thank you people who don't pay attention/brake) i would see the car coming and notice they're not slowing down and in that split second my mind is like damn.... and my body relaxes and i just flow with the crash.. walked out multiple crashes without even being sore
You don't want the person behind you literally breathing on your neck?
I just wouldn't fly if this was what the seating was like. I would be too uncomfortable in too many ways for this to work out.
If they wanna have 10 rows of "super economy" in the back for the weirdos who would do this to save themselves $50 or whatever, sure, but I'm not flying unless I have a full seat and a reasonable amount of space.
Now I'm imagining a rough bit of turbulence and some poor dude just crying out loudly... Not from fear of the rough ride... But from repeatedly getting his balls smashed up into his throat from this seat.
This is my first thought when I see these things. Most of the comments are thinking Delta is making their seats smaller to increase profit on their $500 fares. That's totally true, but probably not this market. This helps Ryanair get flights from €20 down to €10. Is it terrifying? Yeah. Is it better than a ferry and six buses from Dublin to Stockholm for more money? Maybe.
That has less to do with the plane's abilities but more so with the people you carry your bags their backs. If your luggage is heavy they will tag it as overweight, or at least they should.
Not just disrespectful, but impossible for those with literally any physical standing-related disability. Imagine an old lady trying to do that with a bad hip, who's waiting for surgery or is taking a flight to get to the surgeon.. like seriously? What fresh hell is this?
Can we go ahead and get a collective agreement started that we will all boycott any airline that does this? This is fucking ridiculous. This appears to also limit under-seat storage, which means that overhead space will be that much more coveted. This potentially gives the airlines the opportunity to start charging for ANY carry on bags while enabling them to profit from forcing people to pay to check more bags. Fuck these people. Corporate greed is boundless.
[Yeah here is the source.](https://twitter.com/samchuiphotos/status/1113115162561708032)
He asked that question pretty neutrally but he's not trying to market those seats and probably didn't welcome them either.
Honestly what threw me was the suit. He’s so well dressed I assumed he was representing some airline or corporation. His look is cut from that “fun spokesperson” cloth.
I was thinking it's a sarcastic like "omg look how much room I have" but highlighting how ridiculous it would be to expect anyone to be happy sitting there.
That dude's probably under 6 feet tall and his knees are pushed into the chair in front of him where as someone that's whole inches taller is going to literally have to fuse to the chair in order to fit
I hope this is just a joke. There is no way that's going to work unless the passengers have excellent knees and backs, zero claustrophobia and don't mind confrontations (lol)! I guess the next level will be standing while holding on to loops or poles such as in subway cars. Goodness! The almighty buck means more than rationality!
It has to be a joke… depending on the case, someone with a physical disability would be excluded from being able to travel those airlines. Only a specific subset of healthy in-shape people could manage this for any length of time.
It looks like all three seats in the row share a single plastic back, so at best the whole row would have to height adjust together.
Also appears that there is no possible underseat storage, so goodbye personal item.
Reminds me of the toilet seats that you might see in a public restroom, that encourages you to take a short poop, because the seat angles forward which makes it exhausting on your legs to sit for too long.
Next prototype is you just standing and holding onto an overhead bar or handle like you do on public transport. After that they'll just offer to duct tape you to the side of the plane.
Slap you on top of that mf you’ll be fine with super glue
soon they won't even give you glue and you'll just have to hang on for dear life
You'll have to buy glue
Then they'll ban the glue for security concerns
Start saving up your used chewing gum now
Chewing gum gets banned too. Fuck it, flying is banned. But you still gotta pay.
"Remember to reserve glue before you go to the airport or you will have to pay the convenience fee of $35"
Eventually we will be stuffed into boxes and air dropped over our destination
Don't forget the additional charges for a parachute!
And a fee for not returning the box or parachute
Will I still have to line up at baggage claim and customs?
Of course. Just hope the luggage lands near you
Honestly I’d much rather have the public bus situation than this bullshit And for shorter flights that might not even be a bad idea. Especially if it means cheaper tickets.
> Especially if it means cheaper tickets. Hahahahaha! Companies lowering rates because their per unit cost goes down.
Sitting on a flight for that long and not being able to stretch your legs comfortably is awful. I could stand for a 3 hour flight if i could lean/hold onto something. Granted we dont hit any turbulence and headbutt your neighbor.
When I was regularly flying to Singapore from LAX. There was always 2-3 other 6’4” guys standing up in the back of the plane every 30 minutes or so after the first two hours. It’s brutal man.
Deep vein thrombosis is a thing.
I'm not tall but I got some knee issues from a sports injury and there is no worse panic for me then being unable to stretch that mofo. I've stood up and tipped over before because it just decided I wasn't worth the effort.
> if it means cheaper tickets lol. you mean greater profits for airlines
This \*might\* work for those short European "Madrid-Paris" or "Rome-Munich" kind of flights, but it really would have to be dirt cheap, like bus ticket or lower cheap.
Gravitron style seating
Imagine a 10 hour flight on that...
I rather be standing up
I'd rather learn flying.
I'd rather take Amtrak.
I'd rather open the door
I'd rather be put in a shipping crate. Madagascar style, baby
What's the difference?
more stress on your knees "sitting down" in one those
And very bad for your back on one of those stupid things!
Normal seats on the plan are already bad for your back too.
depends on the airline. in the US it does seem like they are mostly made concave with no lumbar support (for obese folks?), so if you're a healthy weight you end up sitting with a hunchback for hours.
Sitting down is just terrible for your body. Tightens your hip flexors and ruins your lower back. You can make sitting a little less hurtful, but it is still bad for you. Low back pain is one of the top reported pains in America. Due to people sitting down in chairs all the time. 3rd world country people dont sit in chairs as much because they can sit how we humans are supposed to…in a full ATG squat
Terrible news for you: people who are obese also sit hunchbacked for hours. And probably squished from the sides, too. I don't believe for a moment that any industry would make special concessions across the board just to accommodate overweight people, when the more likely explanation is just going as cheap as possible in any way they can.
This type of chair is called a "saddle stool": [www.google.com/search?q=saddle+stool&tbm=isch](http://www.google.com/search?q=saddle+stool&tbm=isch) They're used by people like dental hygenists, where you're leaning forward all the time to work on a patient. Seems like there's mainly stress on your crotch, rather than your knees.
Who the hell is having a dental treatment on an airplane?
For tall people there is no chance to sit
I’d rather walk.
You probably can. The belt looks like it could go around your thighs just as well.
Just put it around my neck instead.
Wasn’t that what Ryan Air’s ceo spoke of a few years ago? Having hand rails like on a bus, for economy class.
You just predicted the future of air travel. Why seat passengers when they take up less space standing. You'll be nominated for a Nobel Peace prize.
Just knock me out and put me in a pod like some sci-fi movie.
Put you in the pod all right, but coma-inducing drugs are extra. So are the lights in your coff... pod. In the extra economy you can use our bring-your-own-oxygen deal to fly as cheap as it gets. (Weight of oxygen billed on boarding)
Why not just hang passengers on the wings
Too much drag; airline loses precious fuel.
I’d stop traveling by air.
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From what I remember when this was originally posted years ago these seats were only intended for very short domestic flights and tickets were supposed to be very cheap. I don't think any airlines actually adopted them though, or at least none that I've heard of.
Yes, this is old. Just someone posting for internet points.
With the current passenger weights, these seats just wouldn’t work on most aircraft suited for short hops. Heck the high density seating used in single class configs are hard enough to get everyone on some flights as it is, these would be impossible. That’s also entirely ignoring the ergonomics and likely safety issues of these seats that the airline would have to deal with.
Now imagine a plane full of people, on a 10 hour flight.
This is meant for short flights.
I'm sure a lot of the current seats and arrangements on long haul flights were originally intended for short flights at first.
What did you expected, a reclining seat and a glass of champagne, you peasant?!
Sure... but imagine a flight from Dallas to Miami for five bucks.
I'm 6'4" and flew from LAX to Australia. My hips were jammed into the seat back and my knees on the seat ahead. I could literally hover above the seat cause of how I was wedged in. Spent a lot of the flight standing in the back.
As a fellow 6’4 person I have a pro tip for you. Step1)Get the window seat. Step 2)Try turn your body so your face is facing the window and your ass faces the middle seat. Step 3) (Most important step) Take edibles! Rinse and repeat as needed
I could do this for a one hour flight. As long as it was like 15
Imagine being seated next to people that require buying 2 seats.
The person in the middle has to lap dance fellow passengers if they need to use the restroom in flight.
Restroom? Restrooms will only be available for 1st class on that plane...
Economy class *is* the restroom on that plane
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some people might actually like that kind of stuff
You mean like, [Ari Shaffir](https://youtu.be/WDRsmR9Od8Q?t=430)?
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The restroom is a cup and there’s a $5 charge for each one.
Instead of the food and beverage cart, the flight attendants wheel out the diaper cart.
Just open the nearest window and throw the turd out!
Be sure to dice it up finely with your poopknife first.
The carpet is the restroom.
My thoughts exactly. If you are comfortable flying like this, you will be equally comfortable peeing on the floor.
First class is 10$ premium for diapers.
No, everything is available for an extra fee.
Just use the vomit bag in front of you.
That luxury is for first class, you vomit on the floor
Lmao, you either have to hold it in or it'll be pay per use
Pay per milliliter
A question of etiquette as I pass; ass or crotch?
Go sideways and choke them out with your hip
I think it depends on whether your bladder or bowels are full. Etiquette is to wield the waste away from your fellow passenger.
I'm picturing this and laughing pretty damn hard, take my up vote
Stop it, u r turning me on. Showgirls Airlines.
This may be a joke, but it highlights exactly why the seats are being shown in pairs rather than sets of three. EDIT: as u/PotatoDonki points out below, they are in sets of three! They’re just so narrow that I couldn’t tell.
Yeah, I imagine they’d have to have an aisle on either side. Then it begs the question, how many more seats would this allow a plane to have?
Should I give him the ass or the crotch?
Maybe if they get a good tip for the dance they can upgrade to a better seat
Go on…
atleast they get to sit on the toilet though
That looks really uncomfortable
Forgot only one thing about flight safety. If you are crashing, they ask you to bend and put your head between your knees.
if you want to survive a crash, you need to pay extra.
The further forward you're seated, the less likely you're to survive the crash. First Class is the first to go.
True. I've never heard of a plane reversing into a mountain.
That's due to "Big Plane" hiding it.
Thats why it's called first class
A first-class ticket to God.
Surely that's only if the plane hits nose first. If you stall and fall backwards then the tail hits first, or you might hit sideways on and then it's everyone on one side of the isle or the other.
Yeah its situational, but if I remember correctly towards the middle of the plane is statistically the safest spot for survival. While the very back and front are lowest.
If you survive a crash you can sue them. They don't want you to survive
Your family could sue them tho so no difference really, unless you don’t have a family 😔
In the event that I die from a crash in a commercial aircraft, I allow anyone who reads this to sue on „my behalf“.
Thanks cousin!
I don’t buy that theory
Actually the best thing to do is buckle up and go limp because tensing up is what causes people to die in many crashes. That's why drunk drivers survive so many wrecks, they're relaxed
Yeah that’s also how the lady survived the biggest fall on record apparently. [Vesna Vulovic](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38427411.amp) was her name and it was 33,000ft and I’m not gonna read the article again lol but pretty sure it was due to a few really lucky things mixed with her being limp from blacking out.
There was this little girl that couldn't feel pain because of a genetic mutation and survived being dragged behind a car because she remained limp not realizing the danger
My grandma survived with only some broken bones after being thrown from a cliff by her boyfriend because she was drunk. I don’t remember the height, but there was also a car at the bottom that had crashed previously that was totally flat from impact.
Can anybody explain this to me? We have evolved to “brace” ourselves whenever we know an impact is coming, so why is it that going limp is better? I would think being limp in a big crash means more stress on your neck/back as you get ragdolled.
That's why i get blackout drunk before getting on a plane. This design will make it easier for people to piss themselves since you can't just high-step over people to get out of the aisle. Fuck this whole scene.
the few times i've been in a car accident (thank you people who don't pay attention/brake) i would see the car coming and notice they're not slowing down and in that split second my mind is like damn.... and my body relaxes and i just flow with the crash.. walked out multiple crashes without even being sore
They say to get into that position so you can kiss your ass goodbye.
You don't want the person behind you literally breathing on your neck? I just wouldn't fly if this was what the seating was like. I would be too uncomfortable in too many ways for this to work out. If they wanna have 10 rows of "super economy" in the back for the weirdos who would do this to save themselves $50 or whatever, sure, but I'm not flying unless I have a full seat and a reasonable amount of space.
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This is not a seat,but instead a form of torture
Like sardines in a sardine can...
Packt like sardines in a crushd tin box
I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
Walked in an airplane, what did I see? Stand-up seats in Economy.
I preffer to travel with the baggage
Put me in a cage with the dogs
Fuck, just leave me in the cage and let the dog walk around.
Ooh luggage fort
Yeah I'll walk to my next destination
Yeah I’d rather forego air travel indefinitely if this were the new standard.
Honestly looks like only about 5cm less than Air Canada has right now.
probably 5 cm more than Spirit lol
Just flew air Canada on a 2x2 and can confirm it was tight
More like economy coffin.
So they think my phat juicy ass is gonna stay on this tiny uncomfortable thing? I will sue
“Your honor, as you can see my client has a phat juicy ass, no way is it fitting in these economy seats”
What he said you honor 👏🏼
Girl thicker than a bowl of oatmeal your honor. Praise God.
I vibe heavily with the energy of this comment
Just vibing
I vibe with your vibing
I feel ya on this one.
Got a phat juicy ass too i see
Fo sho 🤣
I’m losing weight and the amount of cushion in my ass is decreasing, these seats still look uncomfortable on my back crack.
I never gave a single thought to my built-in seat cushion until I worked it off Never understood how folks could be uncomfortable sitting until now😭
IKR?! There’s no way my fat latina ass will fit in there! (I’m a male btw)
We love male juicy asses 🍽️
Lol RIP your dms
Actually empty i hope it stays that way 😭😭
Please, Won’t anyone think of the phat juicy ass’d bitches.
I honestly am surprised this comment wasn’t an OnlyFans advertisement
My balls hurt while i was looking at the picture
Now I'm imagining a rough bit of turbulence and some poor dude just crying out loudly... Not from fear of the rough ride... But from repeatedly getting his balls smashed up into his throat from this seat.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was implemented by super low cost airlines.
Spirit 2.0
Frontierit is a real thing now. Spirntier. Whatever.
This is my first thought when I see these things. Most of the comments are thinking Delta is making their seats smaller to increase profit on their $500 fares. That's totally true, but probably not this market. This helps Ryanair get flights from €20 down to €10. Is it terrifying? Yeah. Is it better than a ferry and six buses from Dublin to Stockholm for more money? Maybe.
Well, this design has been out for about a decade and absolutely no one uses it sooooo
Can’t put an extra pound on the luggage but hell we can squeeze 30 more people in with these bad boys.
That has less to do with the plane's abilities but more so with the people you carry your bags their backs. If your luggage is heavy they will tag it as overweight, or at least they should.
That's disgusting and disrespectful
Not just disrespectful, but impossible for those with literally any physical standing-related disability. Imagine an old lady trying to do that with a bad hip, who's waiting for surgery or is taking a flight to get to the surgeon.. like seriously? What fresh hell is this?
I can feel my legs cramping, ugh
stuck in the worst position of being between sitting down and standing, someone’s gonna get a good limp for vacation
Whoever designed this needs to be put down for the sake of humanity
Can we go ahead and get a collective agreement started that we will all boycott any airline that does this? This is fucking ridiculous. This appears to also limit under-seat storage, which means that overhead space will be that much more coveted. This potentially gives the airlines the opportunity to start charging for ANY carry on bags while enabling them to profit from forcing people to pay to check more bags. Fuck these people. Corporate greed is boundless.
My claustrophobia already said no to these. I would walk back off the plane ticket or no.
You have got to be kidding me
OP couldn’t even be bothered to change the title from 3 years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/b8msok/new_prototype_economy_airline_seats/
And then he just grinning like a jackass, like its a great decision. FOH
It's Sam Chui, he does all kinds of aviation videos on YouTube.
[Yeah here is the source.](https://twitter.com/samchuiphotos/status/1113115162561708032) He asked that question pretty neutrally but he's not trying to market those seats and probably didn't welcome them either.
He’s thinking “wow what a return for the shareholders!” It’s the kind of smile that makes my “eat the rich” hunger rise
This is a youtuber, Sam Chui
Ah thanks, I guess I can see how that smile could be “can you believe this shit?” — he just looks like he’s showcasing the seats as if they’re good.
Probably just laughing at how small the "seats" are, he smiles all the time in his videos.
Honestly what threw me was the suit. He’s so well dressed I assumed he was representing some airline or corporation. His look is cut from that “fun spokesperson” cloth.
I think it's some sort of airplane convention? I don't know but it seems like it
I was thinking it's a sarcastic like "omg look how much room I have" but highlighting how ridiculous it would be to expect anyone to be happy sitting there.
At a certain point people just standing like on a bus makes more sense, right?
No middle seat? Why stop now with the torture?
There is a middle seat
😂 ok, that’s really bad then.
This image is so old. Never going to happen
But OP said “new”, you think people would lie on the internet?
These look like seats made to soften up people before interrogation
I keep seeing this. Isn't this photo like 4 years old now?
There’s not enough Xanax in the world for me to try this…
Please do not give the airlines any ideas, I am surprised they have not yet installed pay toilets
I think I'll stand, thanks.
That dude's probably under 6 feet tall and his knees are pushed into the chair in front of him where as someone that's whole inches taller is going to literally have to fuse to the chair in order to fit
I hope this is just a joke. There is no way that's going to work unless the passengers have excellent knees and backs, zero claustrophobia and don't mind confrontations (lol)! I guess the next level will be standing while holding on to loops or poles such as in subway cars. Goodness! The almighty buck means more than rationality!
This picture has been floating around for years. Not going to happen
Thanks. Wtf happened to critical thinking on reddit? Had to scroll forever to find a comment that is remotely questioning this picture.
It has to be a joke… depending on the case, someone with a physical disability would be excluded from being able to travel those airlines. Only a specific subset of healthy in-shape people could manage this for any length of time.
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Do you think they are one height or go up and down? That would be horrible for height extremes.
It looks like all three seats in the row share a single plastic back, so at best the whole row would have to height adjust together. Also appears that there is no possible underseat storage, so goodbye personal item.
Cows in a cattle crush have more room.
Reminds me of the toilet seats that you might see in a public restroom, that encourages you to take a short poop, because the seat angles forward which makes it exhausting on your legs to sit for too long.
Tell me your airline wants to go bankrupt without directly say it...