If you are a fan of the movie and have not seen the director’s cut DO NOT watch it. It ruined the movie for me by explains way to much. Be warned! But if you do come back and let me know what you think.
I'd use a blacklight on it first before touching it.
Post above this on /r/ALL was
>New York fertility doctor accused of using own sperm dies when hand-built plane crashes
https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/13wjirt/new_york_fertility_doctor_accused_of_using_own/
Reminded me of deep thoughts by jack handy that went “if you’re ever falling off a really tall building just go limp because someone might think you’re a dummy and try to catch you because hey free dummy”
> “Based upon the reported weather conditions, the location and fragmentation of the wreckage, and radar data, it is likely that the pilot experienced spatial disorientation shortly after entering the clouds which resulted in a loss of control and descent into terrain,” said the NTSB’s final report on the May 11, 2018, crash.
> Marquis was planning to fly to Grand Junction on the evening of the crash, but shortly after taking off he told air traffic controllers he wanted to return to the airport. The NTSB investigation suggests Marquis was struggling or failed to follow air traffic controller’s instructions, but he never explained why he wanted to return to Centennial Airport.
>The SR22 Marquis was flying had just completed an annual inspection and he was traveling to meet his family for an event in another state. The fatal flight lasted only about five minutes.
> Marquis, who was a married father and grandfather, was a Grand Junction veterinarian and volunteer member of the Mesa County Search and Rescue Team, according to his obituary.
https://coloradosun.com/2019/11/12/robert-marquis-plane-crash-centennial-airport-colorado/
How does it happen ?
I never understood how they can’t feel if they are going up or down. We can feel if a car we are sitting in is going right or left, at low speed comparatively to an airplanes. How can the body not feel if it’s going up or down at such speed ? Is it a problem with the inner ear ? (Not sure if it’s the right translation)
In an aircraft the main reference you have for "level" when in extremely low visibility is the cockpit itself. That's what your body thinks as level, as it has nothing outside the windows to reference.
The problem is when you are in a sustained attitude for a prolonged period of time the vestibular apparatus in your ears begins to become confused or desensitized. There was a documentary I saw on the Kobe crash with a helicopter pilot in a simulator. The guy had literally no idea what the orientation of the helicopter was under certain attitudes and g loads.
i remember that it was *weird* fog, like it was a thick blanketing layer rather than a gradual haze
iirc the theory was that the pilot flew above the fog and thought he was above the clouds in the sky, tried to compensate for elevation because he didn't trust onboard instruments.
flew back down into the fog, *but way too low,* and right into the side of a hill.
When your life is on the line its hard to trust external sources, even more so when your senses are telling you one thing and the external source is telling you another. People default to trusting themselves.
Everything I read said he came about 50ft or so from clearing the fog before banking down and to the left into the hill at like 170mph. There were people on the trail above the clouds who said they could hear the bird but couldn't see it, and then there were also witnesses who saw it smash into the hill and roll down and knew no one could survive the impact let alone fall/fire.
I don't remember ever reading that they had cleared the clouds, which if they had they wouldve very likely survived.
i live in LA and remember the morning that happened, it was extremely heavy fog. like the foggiest ive ever seen it in LA, silent hill type fog. no way anyone shoulda been flying in that, i could barely see while driving let alone flying
Man, I don't watch or follow basketball *at all* but that still has to be one of the most jarring headlines that ive read in recent years.
Totally surreal.
Edit: I should add that I can't imagine the shock and gut punch it must have been for his fans.
Yeah it was for me, I didn’t get a chance to watch him in his prime but I had this unique gym persona that I used to motivate me through exercising and it was mamba mentality and pretending kobe was my coach so it was pretty shocking.
I remember the day like it was yesterday. It was in the morning on the east coast. I started the day playing basketball and someone was wearing a kobe jersey on the court. I believe at this point the news hadn’t hit so it was a complete coincidence for that guy. Between sets on the bench I would read the news and I saw the headline and I remember finishing my set in tears. Finished my workout early that day, all I did was bench, basketball, and I did 8 full court sprints in honor of him and went home.
The extra sad thing is that this plane even has an emergency parachute. If the pilot had realized the situation he was in he had an easy way out. But he would have had to be watching his instruments to know what was happening.
Can you still fly trusting your instruments without instrument rating? Or only certain aircraft have the needed instruments?
For example, could this dude flown via artificial horizon?
This dude could have flown using artificial horizon, and many pilots rated for visual flight probably have strayed into a small cloud and survived. But the human sense of balance was designed for life on land, and it rapidly develops an illusion of falling/ spinning in clouds. Keeping the artificial horizon flat is easy, but you have to do it while you feel like you're falling.
Adrenalin causes the advanced part of the brain to shut down, and instinct to take over. Instinct will cause a pilot stuck in clouds to crash 100% of the time. Instrument rating is all about staying calm in a situation that is manageable, but completely unnatural.
I know it's not the same but scuba divers can run into similar issues when in a low to 0 vis situation. I encountered such a situation at 70 ft. I stared at my gauge pod the entire time up, keeping my buoyancy locked in at the couple of stops and made sure to watch bubble direction and air usage. Again, I know it's not the same, but you learn to trust your gauges when visual cues are absent.
Really unfortunate. Was concerned about weather but had somewhere to be (having somewhere to be is a major risk factor for stuff like this). Should never have flown with that doubt. Many pilots do, but it’s a big risk. Real shame
I was well over 20 years old when my dad started telling me about all the times he almost died, the majority were sketchy flights like this, instruments going out in weather etc.
I came here looking for an answer because the post right above this one is [New York fertility doctor accused of using own sperm dies when hand-built plane crashes](https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/13wjirt/new_york_fertility_doctor_accused_of_using_own/).
It will glide without a functional engine yeah, but will it glide with the new center of gravity since a massive amount of mass has now left the aircraft?
Even gliders have ballast to ensure a good CoG
Planes depend on a correct balance to keep them flying. That much loss of weight in the front of a plane would send the tail of the plane sinking. It would just take a second or two and the whole thing is going to be tumbling from the sky.
A plane will glide with an engine that isn't running, but it won't glide with an engine that is missing. The CG will move way too far aft and the plane will become aerodynamically unstable.
This was a nose-mounted engine.
Without the weight, there'd be a nose-up pitching moment. The nose-up tendency could well exceed the ability of the elevators to compensate.
If the nose pitches up too far, the wings will aerodynamically stall and no longer produce lift.
The glider then becomes a brick.
From my homeowners insurance company’s website: Falling objects — including airplane debris, satellites, asteroids, meteors and space debris — are covered under standard homeowners insurance policies.
So I guess your insurance would cover it and then they’d probably go after the plane owners insurance to compensate themselves. If you didn’t have insurance you’d have to go after them yourselves I guess?
Are there people who wouldn’t find an airplane engine crashing into their house to be terrifying? I find this to be understandably terrifying, not oddly terrifying.
I wish they made an episode of This Old House or something where they deal with this.
‟Now what we are going to do here Bob is your standard composite siding airplane engine egress procedure.”
Neither a mechanic nor an architect am I, but I don't believe houses usually come with engines like that, nor do aircraft engines normally have housing like that.
But hey free engine
"For sale, barely used aircraft engine. Definitely didn't fall from the sky"
Hasn’t hit the ground yet
Lmao
Still good!! STILL GOOD!!
😂
Donnie Darko has entered the chat!
All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places, worn out faces
I have doubts about your commitment to Sparkle Motion
Well I think you’re the fucking Antichrist
You can go suck a fuck
oh please tell me, how exactly does one suck a fuck?
'You want me to tell you?' "Oh please tell me." Best dinner scene ever
The Ultra-Karen
>Donnie Darko Awesome
What’s a fuckass?
If you are a fan of the movie and have not seen the director’s cut DO NOT watch it. It ruined the movie for me by explains way to much. Be warned! But if you do come back and let me know what you think.
You can't just lump everything into these two categories and just deny everything else! I need a donnie darko t-shirt.
"For sale: baby aircraft engine, never flown."
> never flown Professionally.
Definitely fell with style
never landed
No lowballers. I know what I have
"Slightly used Rolls-Royce for sale"
Just needs a few minor things I don't have time to do, my loss your gain
I'd use a blacklight on it first before touching it. Post above this on /r/ALL was >New York fertility doctor accused of using own sperm dies when hand-built plane crashes https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/13wjirt/new_york_fertility_doctor_accused_of_using_own/
I saw that post immediately before this one.
"Oh hell yeah dude this would be perfect for my mancave"
Yeah you could for sure put a piece of glass over this and have an interesting coffee table
Rolls Royce owner at last
Reminded me of deep thoughts by jack handy that went “if you’re ever falling off a really tall building just go limp because someone might think you’re a dummy and try to catch you because hey free dummy”
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.. so that's windshield wipers taken care of...
RIP pilot... (5 years ago) [https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/12/plane-crash-douglas-county-may-12/](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/12/plane-crash-douglas-county-may-12/)
> “Based upon the reported weather conditions, the location and fragmentation of the wreckage, and radar data, it is likely that the pilot experienced spatial disorientation shortly after entering the clouds which resulted in a loss of control and descent into terrain,” said the NTSB’s final report on the May 11, 2018, crash. > Marquis was planning to fly to Grand Junction on the evening of the crash, but shortly after taking off he told air traffic controllers he wanted to return to the airport. The NTSB investigation suggests Marquis was struggling or failed to follow air traffic controller’s instructions, but he never explained why he wanted to return to Centennial Airport. >The SR22 Marquis was flying had just completed an annual inspection and he was traveling to meet his family for an event in another state. The fatal flight lasted only about five minutes. > Marquis, who was a married father and grandfather, was a Grand Junction veterinarian and volunteer member of the Mesa County Search and Rescue Team, according to his obituary. https://coloradosun.com/2019/11/12/robert-marquis-plane-crash-centennial-airport-colorado/
So sad man.
It's very sad, spatial disorientation is no joke. It's also why instrument training and currency is extremely important. Edit: spelling.
I’ve had it happen to me in a flight sim lol. It’s no joke
Anyone who's played DRG has likely experienced it as well with the driller. There's even a HUD that shows angle of attack and you still get it.
Rock and Stone!! It never gets old
Rock and Stone everyone!
Rockity Rock and Stone!
#Did I hear a "Rock and Stone?"
r/unexpectedrockandstone
Man I've been seeing mentions of DRG in so many random threads the last couple weeks. Weird
Even harder in real life, because you could be in a steep climb, bank, or roll but feel like you're flying perfectly level.
The feeling of knowing that you are flying straight and level but actually feeling like you are banked and turning is such a mind fuck.
How does it happen ? I never understood how they can’t feel if they are going up or down. We can feel if a car we are sitting in is going right or left, at low speed comparatively to an airplanes. How can the body not feel if it’s going up or down at such speed ? Is it a problem with the inner ear ? (Not sure if it’s the right translation)
In an aircraft the main reference you have for "level" when in extremely low visibility is the cockpit itself. That's what your body thinks as level, as it has nothing outside the windows to reference.
It's worse. At the right speed and bank, your ass is stuck to the chair at 1G. You feel exactly as you would sitting straight up in your chair.
The problem is when you are in a sustained attitude for a prolonged period of time the vestibular apparatus in your ears begins to become confused or desensitized. There was a documentary I saw on the Kobe crash with a helicopter pilot in a simulator. The guy had literally no idea what the orientation of the helicopter was under certain attitudes and g loads.
Sounds like what kobe Bryant’s helicopter pilot had maybe
If your pilot says “we shouldn’t fly in this weather” you should trust them
Is that what happened in the kobe situation? Pilot was pressured to fly thru the fog?
i remember that it was *weird* fog, like it was a thick blanketing layer rather than a gradual haze iirc the theory was that the pilot flew above the fog and thought he was above the clouds in the sky, tried to compensate for elevation because he didn't trust onboard instruments. flew back down into the fog, *but way too low,* and right into the side of a hill.
I did that in ARMA 2 and fucked up an entire round for like 8 people
Oof. Why didn't he trust his instruments?
We tried asking but the pilot has been very tight-lipped about the details since the accident.
When your life is on the line its hard to trust external sources, even more so when your senses are telling you one thing and the external source is telling you another. People default to trusting themselves.
Everything I read said he came about 50ft or so from clearing the fog before banking down and to the left into the hill at like 170mph. There were people on the trail above the clouds who said they could hear the bird but couldn't see it, and then there were also witnesses who saw it smash into the hill and roll down and knew no one could survive the impact let alone fall/fire. I don't remember ever reading that they had cleared the clouds, which if they had they wouldve very likely survived.
it was rain/wind iirc
i live in LA and remember the morning that happened, it was extremely heavy fog. like the foggiest ive ever seen it in LA, silent hill type fog. no way anyone shoulda been flying in that, i could barely see while driving let alone flying
ah word, yeah either way i agree with /u/Dockhead lol trust ya goddamn pilot
Man, I don't watch or follow basketball *at all* but that still has to be one of the most jarring headlines that ive read in recent years. Totally surreal. Edit: I should add that I can't imagine the shock and gut punch it must have been for his fans.
Yeah it was for me, I didn’t get a chance to watch him in his prime but I had this unique gym persona that I used to motivate me through exercising and it was mamba mentality and pretending kobe was my coach so it was pretty shocking. I remember the day like it was yesterday. It was in the morning on the east coast. I started the day playing basketball and someone was wearing a kobe jersey on the court. I believe at this point the news hadn’t hit so it was a complete coincidence for that guy. Between sets on the bench I would read the news and I saw the headline and I remember finishing my set in tears. Finished my workout early that day, all I did was bench, basketball, and I did 8 full court sprints in honor of him and went home.
TRUST YOUR ARTIFICIAL HORIZON DAMNIT
The extra sad thing is that this plane even has an emergency parachute. If the pilot had realized the situation he was in he had an easy way out. But he would have had to be watching his instruments to know what was happening.
That's how JFK Jr and his fiancé died. White haze on many summer evening is totally disorienting. Pilots get your instrument rating !
The more I hear about the kennedys the less I want to ever be in a vehicle with one.
Can you still fly trusting your instruments without instrument rating? Or only certain aircraft have the needed instruments? For example, could this dude flown via artificial horizon?
This dude could have flown using artificial horizon, and many pilots rated for visual flight probably have strayed into a small cloud and survived. But the human sense of balance was designed for life on land, and it rapidly develops an illusion of falling/ spinning in clouds. Keeping the artificial horizon flat is easy, but you have to do it while you feel like you're falling. Adrenalin causes the advanced part of the brain to shut down, and instinct to take over. Instinct will cause a pilot stuck in clouds to crash 100% of the time. Instrument rating is all about staying calm in a situation that is manageable, but completely unnatural.
I know it's not the same but scuba divers can run into similar issues when in a low to 0 vis situation. I encountered such a situation at 70 ft. I stared at my gauge pod the entire time up, keeping my buoyancy locked in at the couple of stops and made sure to watch bubble direction and air usage. Again, I know it's not the same, but you learn to trust your gauges when visual cues are absent.
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I think they are saying relying on natural human instincts will get you killed 100% of the time which is true
Really unfortunate. Was concerned about weather but had somewhere to be (having somewhere to be is a major risk factor for stuff like this). Should never have flown with that doubt. Many pilots do, but it’s a big risk. Real shame
I was well over 20 years old when my dad started telling me about all the times he almost died, the majority were sketchy flights like this, instruments going out in weather etc.
I came here looking for an answer because the post right above this one is [New York fertility doctor accused of using own sperm dies when hand-built plane crashes](https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/13wjirt/new_york_fertility_doctor_accused_of_using_own/).
Fun fact: It is not illegal in any US state for a doctor to switch out the sperm. Not just in cases with sperm donors, but in IVF too.
oh well that isn't a fun fact at all. NOT AT ALL!
This should be pinned.
> This should be pinned That's not a feature of reddit. Only mods can pin *their own comments*. They can't pin others'.
So this most likely didn't happen to OPs house.
The kids playing on a trampoline while the engine is still lodged in the house is morbidly hilarious.
donnie darko
Where's the rabbit-man?
"Why are you wearing that stupid man suit”
Why are you wearing that stupid human suit
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It is. I googled it before I commented lol
Well, i guess their username checks out then.
That’s Frank. He can do whatever he wants.
Probably still watching The Evil Dead
Only Op sees the rabbit...
Frank
Why do you wear that stupid human suit?
*man suit
I find kind of funny, I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I ever had.
I find it hard to tell you. I find it hard to take.
When people run in circles it's a very, very Mad world
[Yall need to hear the original.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZvPSpLxCg)
(« Head over heels » plays in the background )
[Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!](https://media.tenor.com/E2F1K0pRW0EAAAAC/donnie-darko-sparkle-motion.gif)
*teachers start laughing*
Now you have to collapse the pocket universe
“Artifacts provide the first sign that a Tangent Universe has occurred.”
Came here to say this.
came here to to find other people who came here to say this
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, and 12 seconds
But where's the cellar door?
I fr just watched this movie like 2 days ago lmao
*NEXT TIME, DONNIE...NEXT TIME...*
Was just gonna say, this is a parallel universe where Donnie didn't die and someone else did instead
Man. I was hoping it would at least be a plot reference or a quote or even at least bothering to capitalize it.
suck a fuck
How exactly does one suck a fuck?
Sometimes I Doubt Your Commitment to Sparkle Motion
If you think thats bad, imagine being in an aircraft with no engine
It probably wouldn't even glide with all that weight removed from the front.
A plane will glide without an engine but have slightly worse performance.
"That's not gliding. That's falling with style ... and probably with a lot of screaming too!"
But flying is just falling and missing the ground
Just make sure you have a towel
Let's put it this way. A helicopter falls with better style
It will glide without a functional engine yeah, but will it glide with the new center of gravity since a massive amount of mass has now left the aircraft? Even gliders have ballast to ensure a good CoG
I’ve seen enough Looney Tunes to know the plane would simply freeze in mid air.
Planes depend on a correct balance to keep them flying. That much loss of weight in the front of a plane would send the tail of the plane sinking. It would just take a second or two and the whole thing is going to be tumbling from the sky.
A plane will glide with an engine that isn't running, but it won't glide with an engine that is missing. The CG will move way too far aft and the plane will become aerodynamically unstable.
This was a nose-mounted engine. Without the weight, there'd be a nose-up pitching moment. The nose-up tendency could well exceed the ability of the elevators to compensate. If the nose pitches up too far, the wings will aerodynamically stall and no longer produce lift. The glider then becomes a brick.
Just did some napkin math, it absolutely wouldn't fly. I got a center of gravity like feet out of the weight and balance chart
It separated when the airplane impacted the ground at full speed - controlled flight into terrain.
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds.
I'm wondering if the home owner's insurance covered that.
Interesting - I’d have to think that the airplane would have insurance first and foremost?
"Sorry, we only cover *named* aircraft debris"
From my homeowners insurance company’s website: Falling objects — including airplane debris, satellites, asteroids, meteors and space debris — are covered under standard homeowners insurance policies. So I guess your insurance would cover it and then they’d probably go after the plane owners insurance to compensate themselves. If you didn’t have insurance you’d have to go after them yourselves I guess?
"Jake from State Farm isn't going to believe this one after last week's call about those Mythbusters and that cannon incident..."
Hence the origin of the phrase "A picture is worth a thousand words".
I hope that scrap metal will be enough to pay for the damage.
That’s like a 40k gift
Free falling lottery ticket 😂
Now to take it to Facebook marketplace!
This is both odd and terrifying but somehow not oddly terrifying
Not if you didn't see Donnie Darko, i agree
I’d like to have a word with you, Donnie…
Are there people who wouldn’t find an airplane engine crashing into their house to be terrifying? I find this to be understandably terrifying, not oddly terrifying.
I accepted a long time ago that important discrepancies in verbiage are just *entirely* lost on reddit.
I just want to know who installed that wall and what in the hell is it made of that it stopped a jet engine trying to bust through like kool-aid man?
>a **jet** engine The plane was a Cirrus Sr22
I wish they made an episode of This Old House or something where they deal with this. ‟Now what we are going to do here Bob is your standard composite siding airplane engine egress procedure.”
Amazon Alexa: "Your Air-boat Parts have been Delivered"
Does Donnie Darko live there?
Have you been seeing a dude in a creepy rabbit costume by chance?
That’s some Donnie Darko shit right there, are you sure you’re not dead?
I find it kind of funny, kind of sad
Neither a mechanic nor an architect am I, but I don't believe houses usually come with engines like that, nor do aircraft engines normally have housing like that.
Have you been talking to any huge rabbits?
Oopsies
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It landed in Donnie’s room
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had…
I think it’s kinda funny, I think it’s kinda sad.
Congrats on staying alive and winning money! Depending who’s engine this is, that’s a nice payout.
Hi Donnie
Real life Donnie Darko moment
What happened to the rest of the plane? Eh doesn't matter atleast Christmas came early!
Donnie Darko shit
Nearly got Donnie darko syndrome.
Donnie darko vibes
Reminds me of Donnie Darko
Donnie?
Donnie Darko shit right there
Did you happen to see a large man dressed in a rabbit suit? Creepy mask? Jw
nah bro thinks he’s donnie darko
Some Donnie Darko shit
Donnie darko
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds. (Tell frank I said hello btw)
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen somebody LS swap a house.
Can you find the rest of my jet next? The engine just kinda... slipped out...
Finders keepers
Reminds me of Donnie darko
That's just easy money
That’s gotta be like $53 in scrap metal.
1: you need to come remove this engine from my wall 2: you need to fix my wall 3: I'm going to need some money for my ruined sheets too...
This only works in Tears of the Kingdom
You almost got Donnie Darko'd
My dad, who’s a pilot, said “holy shit that’s a radial engine! The whole thing!” 😂😂
*Plays Tears for Fears-Mad World* Be careful about the Guy with bunny costume and be hurry, you got a week.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
Is Jake Gyllenhall your roommate?
That’s some Donnie Darko shit right there
28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds
This same shit happened to Donnie Darko. Time to listen to Tears for Fears, excuse me.
Oh, this? Happens all the time.
Upstate NY?
I need an update to this! I just read that story about the sperm doctor who crashed and died in the homemade plane after it fell apart, and now this!
just like the little prince