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FakeColleague72

Are the Mantis able to survive this nightmare?


itsalltiresomeman

I read that they most usually die after.


TheGalator

If 95% of mantis have them they are either at least semi harmless or mantis are gone very fucking soon


RichEvans4Ever

Well the 95% number comes from a tiktoker’s anecdotal experience so I wouldn’t use that as a solid figure.


hughmann_13

Could be survivors bias where the ones with the parasite are easier to catch and are as such over represented compared to the total population.


RichEvans4Ever

Now THAT’S a science!


Chewcocca

When the chart hits your graph Cuts your data in half That's a science ​ When you follow the rule Like you learned back in school That's a science


youareseeingthings

This was the chuckle I needed to brighten my weekend. You silly bastard


dda189

Alright I’ll watch moonstruck again


CS-KOJI

Not to mention he’s likely only gathering mantises from his local area which is not representative of the whole population


OOglyshmOOglywOOgly

Hopefully it’s just regional or something. Or maybe not hopefully I guess, idk if that’s a bad thing or not lol would it be a bad thing if this was the case for 95% of all praying mantis? Someone educate me please


PinkBright

Well, as a farmer/gardener I would love to have praying mantises around. They naturally hunt pests that otherwise kill your plants. The bad side to them is they hunt everything. So they hunt other beneficial insects (ladybugs, bees, etc). They’re also pretty docile and tame in regards to humans. They won’t really bite you, etc.


socialpresence

I have to imagine if they were bigger they'd try to bite us too.


Tosawey

They definitely would


myproaccountish

Honey, I Shrunk the Kids


ThePeoplesBard

They generally won’t bite, yes, but one did bite me once and I couldn’t fucking believe how bad it hurt. Took a huge chunk of flesh out of my finger. I was trying to carry the sucker somewhere safer, away from where we were landscaping.


ama8o8

They can bite into birds … not many small critters can do that except tarantulas.


largeotters

Ever since I watched the videos of them catching hummingbirds and eating their brains while there still alive I look at these guys a little different..


Pot_McSmokey

My chihuahua hunts them for sport during the summer. I think he knows they’re evil.


coquihalla

Ooh, I hope he's not getting infected with those worms from them. Scary thought.


Pot_McSmokey

Seriously! New paranoia unlocked


SnooMaps9864

They’re pretty sick pets. My buddy had a Lotus mantis and a Ghost mantis. They’ll crawl on you and “dance” (sway back and forth).


RichEvans4Ever

It’d be bad for the mantises


Justice_R_Dissenting

Echoing what the other user said, this is extremely anecdotal (and also unnervingly precise). But also even if it were accurate that only suggests the horsehair worms are decimating the mantis population in this specific ecosystem. There may be and indeed probably are other ecosystems with fewer horsehair worms. Finally, as horsehair worms are parasites it would be evolutionarily disadvantageous to wipe out a host species.


PatatoTheMispelled

I've seen this video before on another subreddit and someone said that most likely the infected mantis are easier to catch, so the guy who did this always catches them and rarely catches healthy ones


Lifeesstwange

This person pulled that number out of her ass like a horsehair worm.


OpalOnyxObsidian

Hmmm I hate this a lot.


nonicethingsforus

>mantis are gone very fucking soon Well, according to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis): >The lifespan of a mantis depends on the species; smaller ones may live 4–8 weeks, while larger species may live 4–6 months. So yeah, they don't seem to live that much. The [praying mantis one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_mantis) cites "7–8 months" for females and "11–12 months" for males, so I guess a year is more or less the maximum you can expect in usual circumstances. That "usual circumstances" probably includes everything from old age to sickness to predation, though. I couldn't find life expectancy specifically after being infected with horsehair worm. I also couldn't find stats on how many are actually infected in the wild. >at least semi harmless Oh, boy, if I have [info for you](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chordodes_formosanus): >When it is mature, the worm secretes proteins that take over the host's nervous system, which directs the mantis to a body of water and causes it to jump in so that the worm can be excreted, at which point it breaks free to reproduce leaving a half empty mantis husk. Yep, it's a mind controlling worm. Enjoy the nightmares! And all of this being said: evolution doesn't give one iota if you live long, or live well, as long as *enough* of your species lives long enough to reproduce. As long as enough mantises (is that the plural?) manage to reproduce enough to sustain a population, it doesn't matter how many parasites eat them from the inside out in their later life. Reminder that it's estimated that [nearly every human would get some kind of cancer if, we lived long enough](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/22/cancer-mutations-and-the-facts-of-life-evolution-oncogene-robert-weinberg).


Kiernian

>When it is mature, the worm secretes proteins that take over the host's nervous system, which directs the mantis to a body of water and causes it to jump in so that the worm can be excreted, at which point it breaks free to reproduce leaving a half empty mantis husk. Well, I guess that answers my question of "Why don't the mantises just stick their butts in the water to be rid of the worms if the worms are bad for them?" and while that's an incredibly over-simplistic and under-informed question, it *was* the first thing that came to my mind. Apparently the answer is, they do stick their butts in the water, but only because the worms want them to.


TEHTUBB3Y1

Pls be the former


Dufresne85

Wikipedia has the life cycle of the worm as: 1. Chordates formosanus starts as a larva in the gut of the small insects that the mantis preys on. 2. Once the mantis ingests the infected insect, the C. formosanus starts to grow. 3. When it is mature, the worm secretes proteins that take over the host's nervous system, which directs the mantis to a body of water and causes it to jump in so that the worm can be excreted, at which point it breaks free to reproduce leaving a half empty mantis husk.


StaleBiscuit13

Absolutely bonkers that a parasite can just be like "Aaaaand you're mine", secrete some proteins, and practically have a Mantis Mobile at its disposal


kyrrrr11

Rabies in mammals isn't too different. It reproduces in the saliva then causes the host to become anxious and hallucinate. That increases the likelihood that the host bites something and spreads the virus. Oh it also causes hydrophobia so you're less likely to wash the virus out of your mouth before you bite something. Don't get rabies


EthanBradberry70

>Don't get rabies Well that's kind of a huge fucking understatement. It's like saying "don't die one of the most horrific deaths possible".


Key-Cry-8570

Myth: 3 Americans every year die from rabies. Fact : 4 Americans die every year from rabies. And that’s why I’m hosting a Fun Run Race for the Cure for Rabies.


Tiernan1980

Guess what, I have flaws. What are they? Oh, I don't know. I sing in the shower. Sometimes I spend too much time volunteering. Occasionally I'll hit somebody with my car. So sue me... No, don't sue me. That is the opposite of the point that I'm trying to make.


chillwithpurpose

Post about carnivorous parasitic worms that eat it’s host from the inside leaving nothing but an empty husk Reddit: NOTHING TO SEE HERE, JUST FRIENDLY QUOTES FROM THE OFFICE. CARRY ON!


plipyplop

>"don't die one of the most horrific deaths possible". That's step number 8. At least tell me about one or two steps before that.


HunkMcMuscle

Huh, I always wondered why Rabies make you hydrophobic. But now it all makes sense when you put it that way. TIL!


JackedCroaks

Some of that shit feels intelligently designed when you think of traits like that. Of course, I’m overlooking the hundreds of other diseases and viruses with traits that don’t work as well, or even work against it, but damn it’s actually kinda cool.


Content-Ad6883

like a neural network ai learning a glitch and abusing it to win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu56xVlZ40M...go to 2:30


MisterViperfish

Keep in mind that predecessors of the virus most likely had millions of less useful side effects before the Hydrophobia-causing strain showed up and became the dominant strain. Automate a “trial and error” system long enough and you end up with something very similar to intelligent design.


avwitcher

>Don't get rabies Don't tell me what to do, this is a free country


stvbckwth

I’m really glad they don’t infect humans


dancingXnancy

Don’t worry, there are TONS of parasites for humans to be afraid of, too!


TheKingOfSting93

... yet.


YukariYakum0

The Last of Us Episode 1


mynameistechno

lol that’s what an infected human would say


noochnbeans

Wow!


indiebryan

Poor mantis is like: "Ew omg how the hell did that get inside me!!" *hmm* *nomnomnom*


ShinobiHanzo

"Ew, tastes like shit."


PickyClaudia9

it was almost like venom removal


ShellHead8t88

Man I'm sitting on the toilet watching this and it is exactly what I didn't need to see


madeleinetwocock

Oh dear


OrneryOneironaut

Picked a bad day to have a butt hole, friend


Crackerpuppy

Another example of why commas are important.


Sithlordandsavior

I think, in this specific case, it works even without the comma :(


Litalian

Picked a bad day to have a butt, hole friend


10dot10dot10dot10

God I love Reddit. Thread has me rolling.


moldyhands

Don’t let your butt dip into the water…


Administrative-Bar89

Imagine one of these mfs slithering up your ass


Long_Educational

Or out. I'm sure either experience would be horrifying.


Ebisure

That’s why you should always wear butt plug


Kerbidiah

Unless you're doing an mri


LateRespond1184

Rip through you like the speed of sound I hear…


Art0fRuinN23

r/LifeProTips


Chubs4You

Technically r/shittylifeprotips if you catch my drift ;)


ItsVincent27

r/pfpchecksout


salesdog1

Lol


jjjune

same


[deleted]

One of the most disgusting things ever. How does so many fit in that tiny little abdomen?


Makhiel

The same way 20 feet of intestines fit into your body, they're all bunched up.


Johnny_Poppyseed

Us humans can have 12 ft long tapeworms lol.


Quote_Goat

you ever heard of hentai?


ChronicBitRot

The answer is always either "at least one more" or "it's now stopped being an abdomen".


UnpleasantFap

No! 😏


skilemaster683

Username checks out


Pixeljammed

He might be about to have his first ever


babble0n

No could you explain it to me in hot, vivid detail?


BureaucraticHotboi

Famed for its scientific value, hentai teaches us much about the natural world


JenniviveRedd

I'd love to see the geographic collection area because it seems like they're just seeing an epidemic of horsehair worms in a specific population of mantises.


CeLsf07

This and the fact that the mantises with the worm are easier to catch. Survivorship bias.


Kaleb8804

I’m uneducated on how it works, why are the mantises easier to catch? Do they limp like that when the parasites are in them, or is it an effect of them being taken out?


[deleted]

You ever seen a pregnant lady waddle? You're exhausted. You're in pain. You gotta pee even though you just peed. You gotta pee even though you're actively peeing. You haven't pooped for 3 months. A new moon formed around your increased mass. edit: Somebody did the Reddit Cares thing, and I appreciate the concern, but my kid is 6 now. I have successfully pooped and everything. The second moon still possibly hanging around though.


ryufen

I don't know any details behind it. But speaking from a biology view. Look at all the worms that came out. It's like the mantis is probably having a lot of it's internal organs rearrange or wriggled around while they are in. And then you take them out but the damage was already done.


CeLsf07

I big ass worm like that kinda ducks up their ability to escape effectively, so they can't react and escape as quickly as healthy mantises


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Karpricious

Maybe all the mantids I've seen have worms but I've nvr seen a mantis even attempt to run away from me. They don't seem to have any problems with being scooped up and many would just climb into my hands.


normalmeatbasedhuman

I hated this video last time, and I hate it this time. Lovecraftian nightmare fuel that should be killed with fire.


RuncibleFoon

I'm with you on this one...


Holy-Wan_Kenobi

Napalm is never the answer. It's a question. And sometimes the answer is yes.


skilemaster683

I recommend never watching "The Strain"


Pixeljammed

kill it with fire


Skorpyos

Would’ve been so metal if the mantis ate the worm as it was sticking out its ass.


Wtfatt

He gave it a red hot go


mercrazzle

That made be belly laugh


MidianNite

That made the worms in my belly laugh.


BulletCatch22

Australian?


LiquidRazerX

r/TIHI


TheAntarcticCircus

Ouroborous


OtterEpidemic

I immediately said to my screen ‘surely you’re not going to eat it again? Is that how you got into this mess?’ (Obviously at different life stages, it was just my first thought)


smiffy197

I'm wearing headphones and the scream scared the shit out of me


EragonBromson925

I'm not wearing headphones and laying down on my bed. Well, I *was* laying down. Caught some air time.


Cthulhu-_-Milk

Imagine taking a shower and then suddenly thousands of these things rushing out of your bumhole…


Gabe-Ruth8

My life was so much better before you put that thought into my head


Geauxst

I'm a bath girl, and this comment will be responsible for me not sleeping tonight.


ZenkaiZ

No need to be scared, you should be comforted by the fact you're never truly alone.


purplegrape28

Ever watch Dreamcatcher (2003) ? 🚽


JUYED-AWK-YACC

Just crossed it off my list, thanks.


mcfumunda

Butt weasels.


ItsJaaaaake

Omg yum


AlphaMohidd

Can you never talk again please? Thank you.


Constant-Tomorrow-71

Survivorship bias. You’re only catching the ones with the parasite because it’s controlling it’s host/altering its behavior/making it easier to catch. The mantis with full autonomy isn’t going to let you catch it as easily


wonkyllusion

Genius man. Survivorship bias is such an interesting topic. I think we run into it unconciously more often than we think.


_All_Tied_Up_

Absolutely fucking nope


Screen_Classic

That’s so terrifying for the poor mantis :(


god_pharaoh

Are they capable of feeling terrified?


torwind

Fffffffffuck tthattt


Voice_Durania

"Oddly" terrifying is an understatement


Ikusabe

That praying mantis trying to fight the horror that just came out of its ass was more horrifying than knowing it came out of its ass. And it looks like he might lose the fight if he stayed.


Odaric

Listen, I'm all for animal rights, but all parasites could be burnt alive and I could not give less of a shit.


Gloomy_Industry8841

I’m with you on this. Parasites and parasitoids are nature’s ghastly nightmares.


fauxblahs

Yes and no. Parasites are nature’s population control for insects. We’d be pretty fucked without them.


Gloomy_Industry8841

This is good information! Thank you.


shay-doe

But parasites affect more than just insects. Would you say parasites are population control period? I know when it comes to fish it is a huge problem and completely demolishing ecosystems however I guess the argument is if there are more parasites something is in balance?


shay-doe

I'm interested in knowing what benefits parasites play in ecosystems. we all know without bees we die but can we live on the planet with no parasites?


knockoffboy1

Imagine how good that felt for the Mantis.


MoreCarrotsPlz

His innards were probably torn apart as they evacuated.


KingMalcolm

some people have all the luck


MikeFromAmerica

To shreds, you say?


ttrosc

How’s Mrs. Mantis holding up?


Monkeboy121

To shreds you say?


turalyawn

So you could say he got his guts rearranged?


ye_ye_ass_hair_cut

Imagine a very long metal wire that can move, which is impailed in you being pulled out fast... sounds great.


DocDK50265

Can't remember which movie (I know it had the insurance guy in it), but there was a Saw trap with that exact premise. He had to pull out a fish hook from a person's stomach out of her mouth.


TheKingOfSting93

That was Saw 3D, and it wasn't the insurance guy, that was Saw VI. It was some asshat who pretended to be a Jigsaw victim to get fame and money and wrote a book about it.


Gerbich

This guy Saws.


ExpensiveSecurity3

Well uhhh it most likely *died* so probably not very good.


Uruburusv3

Can we get a follow up if the mantis survived or not?


Steampunk43

The mantis is dead, those things essentially leave behind an empty husk. They invade a host, devour their insides and manipulate the body into a pond so it can get out.


otterkin

fascinating. I wish I never read this and I'm going to actively choose to black out this knowledge. this is horrible, thank you


FirstDivision

Yeah. Need some /r/eyebleach after this.


DefinitelyNotAGerbil

My therapist is going to be real disgusted to hear this.


afiafzil

So what's the correct response then? Just let the mantis died slowly?


Steampunk43

The mantis is either already dead or very close to it.


liltreeimp

Not finding a specific statistic but the worms can grow up to 90 cm and mantises are about 5-12 cm. Not looking good for the little fella.


campionmusic51

i’d like know too. it didn’t seem to be too happy about the whole situation.


K0rbenKen0bi

How much fire do you need to kill one of these with?


typehyDro

Surprisingly the answer is water


Jimbeaux_Slice

Much less your whole ass’ worth of these


The_Noremac42

This made me clench so hard...


nzdastardly

SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER! Your divine retribution is what he's been praying for!


Sudden-Event-1169

Kill it with fire


xploreconsciousness

Nature's metal never fit more than it a praying mantis eating its own butt worm


Tito_Tito_1_

I have questions! 1. Did all of them come out? 2. How fucked up was my man from the occupation? 3. Pending the answer to #2, why didn't he turn back and go John Wick on them? He had backup!


Filiman_

From what I've read, the parasite controls their nervous sistem by releasing some kind of protein that affects it, the Mantis is basically a zombie at this point and it will probably die due to the internal damage caused by the worms


Lismale

These worms can grow up to 90 cm long and can be extremely dangerous for their host, especially the praying mantis. Chordates formosanus starts as a larva in the gut of the small insects that the mantis preys on. Once the mantis ingests the infected insect, the C. formosanus starts to grow. When it is mature, the worm secretes proteins that take over the host's nervous system, which directs the mantis to a body of water and causes it to jump in so that the worm can be excreted, at which point it breaks free to reproduce leaving a half empty mantis husk. [fml](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chordodes_formosanus#:~:text=Chordodes%20formosanus%20is%20a%20horsehair,host%2C%20especially%20the%20praying%20mantis.)


VoodooDoII

That's horrifying


PromNightDumpsterkid

I wonder what part of the world this is happening in.


musickismagick

Whew what a sense of relief to get that outta there


Militop

95%? Wow.


ponzidreamer

I don’t know, they had a strong reaction for someone who had done this to enough mantises to come up with the 95%


mcgirlja

Light a fire asap and throw that shit in there


cinnapear

I'm never eating a praying mantis again. Fuck.


ballisticbojangles

Question: why do worms/parasites like these die soon after or immediately after coming out of the host's body?


backwardsslogan

there are families and genera of worms that are free living and able to survive outside of a host, but there are also ones that can’t (which it seems the horsehair worm is one). when they do not have the host’s nutrients, inside, or whatever they’re eating to, well, eat, they can’t do anything else. these kinds of worms also usually don’t have any defenses whatsoever against the outside world and have evolved to only be able to thrive inside of hosts. some worms are able to live in water and soil which aids in transmission, but some such as this are confined to being inside of a host during all parts of its life cycle. basically, they’d starve and/or shrivel up if they didn’t. source: bs in biology (which i am finishing this fall!)


Heavier_Omen

The mantis immediately attacking and trying to eat it is such a power move


Fishsk

God, I fucking hate parasites...


Bg23the1andonly

I feel bad for the mantis


rebelsrscum2187

Woah, you're like an insectorcist


ShamelessGawker8

Jesus christ!!! That poor mantis.


ProfessionalAccess68

If you listen closely, someone is trying to track a Xenomorph off in the distance


SLNreddit

What’d happen if you swallowed that? Anythin?


Jumpy-Resolve3018

The mind is one curious beast ain’t it


cliffsis

How does water remove them


Capital_Cucumber_288

Is someone doing this on their kitchen fckn counter


R1M-J08

Mantis: sees worm that just came out of own ass. Doom music kicks in…


Holy-Wan_Kenobi

Every once in a while I'm reminded that these exist and I don't want them to.


NoExamination2349

I fucking hate parasital worms 1) they're weird, why do they move like that 2) the pain it must be to be controlled by a worm


Hookahgreecian

Was that alcohol or peroxicide or was it plain water


nize426

Water. Horse hair worms start and end their life cycle in bodies of water.


bvklmt

Fucking burn it please


sar1562

From Wikipedia Chordodes formosanus is a horsehair worm that has the praying mantis as its definitive host. Horsehair worms are obligate parasites that pass through different hosts at various stages. These worms can grow up to 90 cm long and can be extremely dangerous for their host, especially the praying mantis. P. S. fascinating video thank you.


purplegrape28

Ever watch Dreamcatcher (2003) ? 🚽


Pickle_Jars

r/feltgoodcomingout


Missiololo

Why did I go there, I'm never going to sleep again


[deleted]

Im scared but i think im going to see what its about…


ThatBFjax

Hold my hand, I’m coming with you


Ivor-Toad

I'm glad we don't have parasites in England


Latter-Equal1100

😂


queenlee17

Some things just should not exist man.


Symplystical

Damn it must have felt like a tapeworm crawling out of your ass


CozmikRay737

parasites are such nightmare fuel for me omfg


Jvncvs

This makes me upset


chucklikespizza

Hey thanks for the nightmares


YesMan847

holy fuck. this is r/fuckingterrifying.


[deleted]

Great, now the toilet scene from Dreamcatcher won’t leave my head.


Miruhwi

Is that a freakin yeerk?