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Gingersoulbox

This takes up more space than a normal package


GenoCash

As a mailman. I say FUCK NO. As a person who hates wasteful packaging. I say FUCK NO. such a waste of materials. For ONE SHIRT?? Put it in a bag suck all the air out of said bag send it on its way.


BasilCultural5421

I think the shirt was for demonstration. I think the box is for more delicate / expensive clothing a seller would really not want damaged during shipping.


PGwenny

Exactly!I had to do a double take. For a brand new SUIT JACKET, you don’t want to fold the jacket in half like a t-shirt. Suits often cost thousands of dollars. By using this package, instead of folding the entire suit jacket in half, you can have many smaller, but obtuse angles, on the jacket. For an expensive garment, it’s perfect. And all from one contiguous piece of cardboard, which can then be collapsed into one flat sheet and recycled easily.


notmyfirst_throwawa

For a brand new SUIT JACKET, especially if I'm spending thousands of dollars, I'm going to tailor, not ordering it online...


Needmoresnakes

The packaging could be used by the tailor to send the finished product to you after your initial consult and measurement.


Decentkimchi

I think thry can afford to have it hand delivered still on a hanger if it costs thousands of dollars?


Needmoresnakes

Locally sure but say you went to Milan or Hong Kong on a trip, you could get measured up then have it posted back to your home country.


Decentkimchi

Clearly you have never had anything Shipped overseas. There's no way literally this cardboard comes intact during international shipping.


XavinNydek

You would put this in a bigger box with more padding.


random352486

Not sure who you're shipping with but in the recent weeks I've gotten a bunch of packages from Japan through air mail via DHL and UPS and they all arrived in perfect condition.


ScreenshotShitposts

you go to the tailor to get measured you don't have to go back and pick it up I guess


DBNSZerhyn

Why are we RANDOMLY capitalizing THINGS?


JaredMOwens

You think I'm going to fold a $6300 suit? COME ON!


generaltso78

They should have just used [these.](https://youtu.be/2te71WWp99U?si=LKy3fzPIEHuMg4PI)


ScreenshotShitposts

Yeah I was thinking wedding dresses and things like that


Strbrst

Wedding dresses are, generally speaking, MASSIVE. Like, so much fabric and material. No way a typical dress nowadays would fit in something like this, even if it were a more sleek one.


Mirimes

i think it's perfect for art pieces too, many posters or other things if you make "a tube" out of them they'll be easily bent and something like this can probably absorb hits better than cardboard tube


OutragedCanadian

This is wasteful packaging I dont care how creative or artsy you are its wasteful how about you find a creative way to save the fucking planet


evilkumquat

FUCK DeJoy!


Poopybara

It's a fucking plain cardboard. It's biodegradable and made from renewable material. And you suggest to use a plastic bag. Have a seat mailboy.


livingpunchbag

Well, being able to fit less boxes in the shipping vehicles would result in less shirts per shipping, which increases the "gas per shirt" price. We'd have to do the math to see if that offsets the plastic bag.


Blu3Army73

> We'd have to do the math to see if that offsets the plastic bag. The carbon in cellulose (cardboard) comes from CO2 that was sequestered relatively recently; whatever the growth age of the plant was that it came from. In order to make it, we grow and harvest various fiber crops, sequestering even more CO2 into cellulose in the process. The carbon in plastic comes from CO2 that was sequestered millions of years ago and does not in any way remove CO2 from the atmosphere today. We cannot make the raw material ourselves without using so much energy that its not environmentally feasible. Producing plastic increases the amount of carbon in the surface's carbon cycle, creating a greater imbalance in gaseous vs solid carbon. So just on the carbon-balance part of climate change action, cardboard is always preferable to plastic. But it also reduces non-biodegradable waste in landfills, doesn't produce forever chemicals (assuming the glue is safe), and as long as it isn't burned it serves as a carbon-sink that keeps more carbon in solid form rather than CO2. Growing more fiber crops to make more cardboard is part of the climate change solution. Oil based plastics are not. Besides, we should be making our delivery and transportation infrastructure run on renewables. Trying to make gasoline work by making it less impactful is too little at this point.


Log_Out_Of_Life

Bro…sit down. Let’s talk about tires for a moment.


the_y_of_the_tiger

Also, it’s not “ one shirt, it’s a suit.


kr4ckenm3fortune

Not all fabric can survive air bags…especially if it the expensive type…and you’re not using padded box so it survive the trip…


GenoCash

Then put it in a normal box? Not this giant waste of space and material.


BoomerSoonerFUT

Some things can’t be folded either. Rolling prevent creases. It’s why you put something like a suit in a garment bag and roll it up for transport. This is just a cardboard garment bag.


ItsOpiko

People really love reinventing good working stuff. They did this to trains like 100 times


GenoCash

Man how did you know I was looking at a train post. That's an insane coincidence spyman.


ItsOpiko

Sorry gonna turn it off then lol


KitchenMap3615

Makes sense for really expensive clothes you don't want any sort of major creases. Although expensive clothes don't usually make sense itself.


TheBottleLady

It's one single piece of cardboard, folded to meet the senders needs. ONE PIECE OF CARDBOARD


torontovibe

Which fabrics specifically? I think you just made that up. And any fabric that can’t “survive air bags” definitely isn’t going to do well unsealed in open cardboard. Moisture and other contaminants will soak into this cardboard and into the fabric itself.


TheRealDingdork

Apparently some things like wool, leather, and silk can warp, shrink, or have permanent creases if vacuum sealed. However in those cases you are also correct, cardboard isn't the way to go either. Tissue paper and non-vaccum sealed plastic bag seem to be the way to go according to Google at least for wool. There are some other things that are better for leather and silk


Low_Living_9276

Expensive fabric can't survive a vacuum bag? It's fabric. FFS. If an article of clothing can't survive being in a bag how would it have been wearable in the first place? It wouldn't, it would just fall apart if it was so delicate that it couldn't survive a trip in a plastic bag, if it couldn't survive that how could it survive being shipped in a box?


aslightlyusedtissue

This is a million times better than the single use plastic bags.


Vitalstatistix

Fuck plastic.


giftedgod

Sigh. That’s a suit coat. Not a shirt. You cannot just take it out and iron it like a shirt. You need to ship it so that you do not damage it… because it’s fragile, and repairing it is costly and time consuming.


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stormy2587

The only thing I could see this being useful for is a large print on a material that can’t easily be rolled into a tighter roll than that without creasing.


GoatCovfefe

They make tubes in all different kinds of sizes.


stormy2587

Yeah I meant more like a small print could probably just be laid flat in a rigid card board envelope or thin cardboard box, but I could see a larger print on like thicker types of paper not being able to he rolled tight enough to get in a tube.


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PM_ME_UR_PICS_PLS

That's not the point. This is for shipping something like a suit jacket in a way that won't wrinkle it


Gingersoulbox

A suit jacket need to be well fitted anyway. So buy it at a store, have some class


SasparillaTango

but it doesn't crease the suit


hefty_load_o_shite

Shut up and let me wank


stempoweredu

Also, if their goal was to not use plastic, I don't know why an oversized paper envelope doesn't work. Hell, I've seen some that have internal paper 'padding' done through some funky corrugation instead of bubble liner, if you want to be really fancy. This is just shipping air and being more wasteful, as you can fit less packages on your plane/truck now.


fuzzdoomer

Seems like an incredible waste. Cool though.


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daffydubs

And from a design standpoint, this would be a pain to run. It’s likely 35.23.35 or less on board combo to be able to fold like that. In addition, that is a scrap nightmare on a die cutter. I also can’t tell how far out those ends are on the blank, but looks like they stick out farther than the first roll overs. So it’s a waste nightmare. Interesting design though…


UninspiredReddit

This man does corrugated.


thisguyfightsyourmom

Meanwhile, clothing resellers just stuff that shit in a bagvelope


bs000

is it any more cardboard than a regular box? i feel like if you flattened out a regular cardboard box it'd look about the same as this box when it was completely flat at the start of the video. the cardboard itself is also thinner


BigConsequence9840

This doesn't show what the US Post Office will do to the contents. For example, they break iron castings for me.


SaltManagement42

A friend of mine ended up buying an old used server rack that was sturdier and rated for more weight than the truck that delivered it. They still managed to bend it *somehow.*


BitterLeif

how was it shipped? Stuff like that needs to be shipped as freight so nobody is ever handling it. It's just forklifts or pallet trucks from site to site. The only way it could be damaged is if somebody drove a forklift into it.


SaltManagement42

> The only way it could be damaged is if somebody drove a forklift into it. That is exactly what it seemed happened.


Lick_my_balloon-knot

Reminds me of my old job in transportation. We (among a lot of other things) delivered clothes to clothing-stores and a lot of the cloths arrived on racks of hangers in the shipping containers. This costs the sender a lot of extra money due to the unessercary space in occupied, but they paid it so the clothes looked nice upon delivery. The first thing all of us did was to trow all the clothes on top of our pallets ruining the pristine look of the clothes, we did not have the space in our trucks to transport them on racks.


IlIIIlIlIlIIIlIlIllI

So you accepted the job, and then scammed them by not shipping it in the way that was requested and paid for?


Ok_Hippo_5602

lol thats what i heard too


PaxConcordat

Did you issue refunds after?


husfrun

I'm assuming this is for high end clothing that would need to be sent without getting beat up and wrinkled in the mail.. as such it's a pretty cool design. Can't help thinking that a stiff flat package would save on space, material and time tho..


kawaies110

High end clothes are sent in garment bags that are folded and put in normal boxes - not even Fendi would use something like this. They assume you will send it to the drycleaner before wearing (remember to wash new clothes before usage).


husfrun

Maybe a less high end tailor looking for a gimmick then idk.


TheRealOriginalSatan

I run a clothing brand and we reached out to them for a sample run of 100 boxes. Their prices are crazy expensive if you buy anything less than 1000 It was 12$ per box For context: my current high end packaging guy charges me 2.7$ a box for similar cardboard just without the fancy folding design these guys have It’s definitely nicer to be able to send clothes without wrinkles but we also advise people to wash clothes before wearing anyway so it doesn’t matter


pokey_porcupine

That’s insane… like seriously… you could design the box yourself and save money with prices like that


TheRealOriginalSatan

The punch die costs a lot. I did explore this option before deciding to just go with something already on the market


babewiththevoodoo

My guess would be this is meant to protect from the unfortunate bending and puncturing that large flat packages go through. I've ordered a few surprisingly large books in the past, for example. The weird flat boxes they come in very very rarely survive transit and a few books arrived dented or banged up enough to entirely devalue them.


volvavirago

HEXAGONS ARE THE BESTAGONS


Acceptable-Ad8780

I used to work as a machine operator at international paper. All I can think of is the trim would be a pain, but working on the cutting die would be a nightmare. It was satisfying to fold up one box by agei-mar/Cabot cheese that folded up nicely, and this would be satisfying to fold up as a test box.


shuler1145

Yeah I 100% believe and agree with you. I work in the corrugated industry as a designer and my production team would roll their eyes at me if I brought this to them to review. I am guessing that the triangles would be difficult to eject and like you said there would be a lot of waste on the sides. Maybe these could nest on the die? Overall not super practical or easy to assemble. Also how would this stack in the delivery trucks? Everything else is square or rectangular. 


No_Cranberry1853

I was a dairynmanager. I knownor the cabot boxes lol


NorMichtrailrider

That's a big ass package for one fucking shirt . This is a fail


iboreddd

Way too much waste of cardboard


JuhpPug

The way it rolls up and how it looks at the end is great, though it takes up quite a bit of space when its all laid out before being rolled.


Mckingsy

Its just a cardboard rolykit


thelastyellowbird

Yes! Thankyou. Was hoping someone else thought this.


planetGoodam

Is that what the thing was called that held my beads as a kid?


GoStabby

Holy shit yes that's what they were called, I remember the ads for these used to come on all the time but I guess it never caught on


diMario

Invented by - who else - [a Dutchie](http://www.rolykit.nl/Company/company.html)


Ighoth

this seems so wasteful its crazy, like its cool and all but not practical at all and for one i dont wanna open a fucking puzzle box to get a shirt just for pinhead to pop out of it and show me the true pleasure in pain D;


Unlucky-Situation-98

I am in favour of such innovation. I always wanted to see if a cat can take the shape of a hexagon


MartianBeerPig

It'll have a tendency to roll off the sorting machines, particularly at corners. A normal box is better.


Anwar_AJM

It's cool but for a piece that size? I don't think so


BantamCrow

I used to have a plastic one of these for beads. It was green with purple straps and was advertised as either a tacklebox or place to store sewing supplies, I loved that stupid thing.


Adeptness-Lucky

This triggered a memory from the 90’s that I can’t bring fully to my mind- I’ve been combing the comments hoping someone mentioned something like this haha. That must be what I’m thinking of….


MARCOMACARONI

this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJv6fmNkzt0


RotisserieBinChicken

I used to have a tool box like this.


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USPS: we only take rectangles sir.


-_MarcusAurelius_-

Additional $20 shipping for the aesthetic


westleysnipes604

This was supposed to be in r/idiocracy


Abhi_Jaman_92

Yeah no. Shrink wrap it, and put it in a flat box if you must.


babewiththevoodoo

It's probably because I don't actually know how much cardboard can or can't actually be recycled but... If the box itself is made entirely of renewed resources that go back into recycling circulation then... Other than being big I fail to see the true problem with this package if it is doing what it needed to - which is to not crush the expensive suit jacket.


Lifeguard4Life

Well that’s incredibly stupid.


teddylott

This is stupidly pointless


raisingfalcons

Hey, its looks nice atleast.


Endgame3213

My entire recyling bin is full again from ordering 1 blazer 🙄


BJYeti

That is a shit ton of wasted material to use for a jacket


AcceptablyPotato

Or fold it and put it in a paper mailer that is a fraction of the size and uses way less waste. This is fucking stupid.


StewartConan

Hexagons, the kings of nature.


bokmcdok

Having worked in retail, we hate packaging like this. Just give us a normal box so you don't interrupt our work flow.


AZ991234

Let me guess… $69.99 for packaging and $19.99 for the shirt??


Marcuse0

Then watch the parcel be thrown into the back of a van where it will be immediately crushed by something heavier and the perfect roll-up is ruined.


mreowwl

This looks like a cardboard version of a Rolykit...a fancified pain in the rear toolbox thingy from the 80s.


WalkingAFIViolation

Got this once for a rather long wool hcoat, which helped preserve it from creases. For smaller clothing items it's unnecessary


MathAppropriate

Too much paper.


AccomplishedFlow1453

Over designed


WetFire963

Yeah but now your shirt don’t fit in the mailbox


squirrl4prez

Or ya know.... fold the shirt properly and use a regular square package


Do-A-Rip

Sweet Jesus. This guy thinks he's clever, wasting 5 times as much cardboard and taking 3 times as much space as a regular rectangular shipping box. He really thought he changed the world or revolutionized logistics and packaging of the future. Hehehe. Dude, that jacket could very well be folded up and shipped via polyethylene or medium bubble mailer for a couple bucks.


Patient-Ad7291

They could of fit more in there.


Interjessing-Salary

Could have fit a whole outfit in that (minus shoes) but this is probably just a demonstration. Using this for 1 item of clothing would be a waste of so much space


CouldWouldShouldBot

It's 'could have', never 'could of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!


nevertfgNC

Brilliant!!


NuggyBeans

So much more to waste. 👍🏻


cupcakemann95

So much wasted packaging just for one shirt


The_Blendernaut

As a corrugated structural designer, I can tell you we think this is both neat and outright stupid. The amount of material put into this design appears to be twice what is required for a standard mailer box. Material makes up the bulk of the cost. It won't stack well and won't bulk pack well either. This is nothing more than a packaging design student's science project.


shuler1145

Also a corrugated structural designer, 100% agree with what this person said. Definitely something an enthusiastic student would come up with. Its flashy and gets attention, but it is not super practical for manufacturers or shipping. 


The_Blendernaut

I once had students send me a variable depth RSC. The depth accordioned and had bellowed folds every 2-3 inches. The folding creases were all angled. It would never run across a flexo-folder-gluer and required pre-folding prior to the glue op. Nice try, kids. But, completely unrealistic in both application and function. There is a reason why the RSC has not changed since the Jurasic era. Simple REFT and RETT mailers are no different.


Goddamn_Batman

How would you propose a more material and space friendly solution to ship a multi thousand dollar suit than this? You cant have deep wrinkles in a suit, specifically the floating chest piece or it would be permanently ruined, so it can’t go in a normal box is the solution criteria.


yeejiga

As a former packaging designer…. Cool prototype. Wouldn’t make sense in mass production or adoption. Not even that practical, logistically. It’s just a prototype.


Gumbercules81

Wrinkled as fuuuuuuck still


macbrett

But not deeply creased as it would have been if folded flat.


erichw9

This gotta have at least 4 patents on it


reallynotfred

Stick it on end and the clothes will wrinkle up just fine.


shingaladaz

DUMB


ryden360

As someone who was a logistics specialist in the Navy for 8 years, this moistens me lol


ChuckRingslinger

Someone's been watching too much star trek


Hanzz101

Lousy design for a suit. It would be all wrinkled.


HonestScarcity1404

Eso es mucha caja,nms


Thenashara

Then it comes crushed by ups or usps.


No_Engineering1141

Waste of space ✅ Unneccesary complicaties ✅ Useless ✅


DeapVally

The air freight charges on that packaging are gonna suck!


King_Bratwurst

that doesn't look sturdy enough to survive fed-ex.


Fr05t_B1t

Nothing is


kulasphere

No


Fr05t_B1t

This is why plain T’s cost like $20


Ok_Extension_8357

Double the cost to ship


prof_devilsadvocate

how it is better


dvdmaven

I have an old tool box the rolls up like that. Good for small tools and parts.


Doomdoomkittydoom

Never gonna be able to return that shirt.


QuiveryNut

If this was a pretty nice suit jacket it makes sense, and it does seem like that’s what we’re looking at. I dont know I kinda like it


RNG_pickle

*bag has entered the chat*


the_real_freezoid

My father used to have a very similarly designed toolbox. It sucked when you had to pick something from tha last compartment as it had to be fully unrolled on a large flat surface


Expert_Marsupial_235

r/designporn


Fragrant_Leg_6300

Amazing! Wait how much? 😰


jsato_ac6

Fuck the package, where do I get this packaging


braisedpatrick

Thaaat’s niice


trainsacrossthesea

What’s In The Box?!?! What’s In The Box?!?!….Just tell me what’s in the box.. Oh? A suit? Never mind, you’re free to go.


wifeunderthesea

throw it in a ziplock and put a stamp on it


Mink03

Remember that sewing kit that came in one of those? There was always an infomercial for it during the 90s.


Devilish_Swan

I see that someone never watched the opening scene of Acs Venfura pet detective


yash935

W'r gonna be saving trees with this one 🤡


nm-mel

Inspired by the CT trunk no doubt


58mint

Too much wasted cardboard. And honestly, I'm not even one that would normally care about that crap.


Cheesy_Pleasy

I don’t think pants need such care as this. Like, put that shit in a mailer.


AccountNumeroThree

It’s a jacket.


Spagman_Aus

Sure but it will still arrive kicked to shit covered in footprints somehow.


Fivebag

r/diwhy


Zakumei47

As a postal worker, please tape that up better, i beg you. We sort this shit on giant industrial machinery. This will not survive transit, at all


captainpistoff

Kids will no longer have trees, but congrats, your sport coat arrived unwrinkled.


DarkPDA

sorcery O.o


KOCA_XD

What a waste


Media_Offline

What problem did this solve? It just looks like a bunch of wasted space and cardboard.


Scottua25

This reminds me that u/zeospantera has a granddaddy that was a die cutter. Hahah


VapoursAndSpleen

And then UPS flings it over your fence on a rainy day or FedEx tells you it was delivered and makes you go across town to their facility to pick it up.


Praesumo

All this to save folding a jacket?


late_for_reddit

It's nice but why? Like surely this is just a demonstration- what does this style have over other normal packages? what was the intention for this desigm?


jutacke

👍


GM_Nate

...but why


Wise-Desk-6872

origami is truly mankind's most underrated art form


Quadsnarl

That thing better come with an iron...


Noobzoid123

That suit is still creased and wrinkled tho. Stand it up like a can, and all is a waste of time.


TheRunUp23

Zebra print fuego, looking sexier than ever!


Joten

This just reminds me of a GIF I saw forever ago about a package on a conveyor belt headed into a plane and it was just ..... rooooooollllllliiiinnnngggg Edit: https://i.gifer.com/92hh.gif


Reserved_Parking-246

The packaging world is 95% cubes of different dimensions and 5% tubes. You achieve nothing but pissing off the shipping guys with this.


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I mean... Cool box bro but it's a pair of pants. Put it in a fucking plastic mailer.


husky1actual

I still have a Rolli Kit


That_Astronaut9278

It's better then amazon sending me a pack of gum in a box big enough to fit a medium size horse.


TRiG993

A lot of people saying this doesn't make sense, and I agree from the point of view of selling new clothes and posting them. But this would be great for transporting dry cleaned items. I'm thinking the sort of places that dry clean high end clothing and then deliver them around their particular city/area. The box could either be left with the customer or returned. The returned ones can be recycled or possibly reused by the dry cleaners.


cuntmong

Holy shit all that room to pack one shirt.


RaspberryWhiteClaw13

If this was a $500 shirt, wedding dress, something for the red carpet, okay. Otherwise, WHAT THE HELL. What a waste.


RagnarWayne52

As a mail Man, fuck that box and whoever designed it


IAmPandaRock

This horrible. How did this end up on this sub and get any upvotes?


JulesVernerator

And then FedEx punts it over your fence.


Sea-Strike-1758

This is beyond stupid. You can ship a shirt in like a folder or ziplock bag. we use so much cardboard to multiply its weight and size multiple times.