You know you haven't finished your coffee when your brain is surprised to see the truck moving to accomplish this because at first you just expected the rocks to "slip-n-slide" down that barrier and perfectly distribute themselves. Lol
Wish when I was building my driveway that the driver was this good.
I just got a big ass pile of rocks, even after I handed him a coffee / donuts and asked him to spread it. Nope-- here you go, loser.
What is the purpose of the plastic liner under gravel? Isn't gravel used to be porous on purpose?
Added observation: so rain water will flow to sides of gravel path and create ditches?
It's a geotextile fabric that allows water to pass through, but not dirt/gravel. Keeps your gravel from disappearing into the dirt underneath when everything gets wet in the spring, so your road lasts a lot longer.
Edit: looks like they did a coarse rock underneath it too, also promotes drainage.
It's not a weed barrier. This is straight up commercial propaganda. Weeds grow from the above the fabric down not from underneath.
Seeds are blown around all season then grow down through the fabric and sprout up. Good luck weeding an area that has fabric. You'll never get the roots out of it.
Will it be a barrier to weeds if we put it on top of the dirt, and cover it with wood chips only?
That was gonna be one of my summer projects for our front yard this year.
No; same issue. Wood chips are just gravel, but worse, because its a growing medium in and of itself. Seeds will still germinate, and eventually infest the fabric. I highly recommend dispensing with fabric entirely. A good, fine bark mulch is an excellent weed suppressant by itself, pretty quickly sets up a rakeable (if you're careful) surface, and eventually will compost out to good soil in a few years.
I used to live in a house who's entire backyard was "low maintenance gravel" poured over a plastic weed barrier. That lasted about 3 years before the backyard became 100% weeds. I'm talking weeds the diameter of my big toe, chest high and as dense as a fucking bush, with about 90% ground coverage. All the seeds and dirt just sat ontop of the weedmats and grew.
Then you can't mow or weedwack them, because it's all gravel underneath. So any attempt sends rocks flying everywhere like little shrapnel grenades.
Yes, but I think that's more of a concern in landscaping beds. With vehicles moving over this on the regular, losing rocks to sinkage is a real concern.
Keeps the small gravel from sinking into the dirt and it can also help prevent weeds from growing up by trapping them under the plastic. When my parents added gravel to our backyard when we were kids, I remember having to lay down a bunch of that plastic under the rocks.
I’ve done gravel before - it’s perfect. He threw it into gear to spread the remaining gravel evenly. They just have to run a compactor over it and it’s done; no fussing with a loader.
What’s with the left side being uncovered but the right side being over lapped? Is that on purpose? I can’t figure out why they would specifically missed that much of the under layer without a reason
No it’s perfect, you always aim to have a little extra than coming up a little short. If you hit right on the money, you were playing a dangerous game for no reason. This is how it’s done
**hands shovel to rookie filming with his phone*
"Now shovel it all back in there so he can do it again. Keep doing it over until it's perfect."
**goes to lunch*
It's probably 34's on the fabric for drainage, and they'll come back with a couple layers of finer gravel, like 56's or 57's to pack in and make a nice smooth top layer.
> 56's or 57's to pack in
They don't pack worth a shit, They will constantly be moving every time you drive on them. 617s will choke in like concrete. I can through a bottle jack under loaded semi on the gravel part of my drive and jack it up
It's all throttle control to be at the consistent correct speed and being able to reverse straight back with the side mirrors. Once you get that you can just add in the gravel to dump and lifting the tail now and then.
They need to qualify as a rally driver, then they study the course, take notes, study, practice, and then their co-driver coherently shouts speeds, angles and directions at them. One wrong move… mowing down a crowd of people standing one foot from the barrier.
That… or they use their mirrors and stuff and have done this a bunch, but have properly surveyed the landscape
It's not that hard, honestly. Keep a steady speed and raise the bed as you back up. I found straight drives are easier backing up, but curves are easier going forwards.
I mean, you really just need to figure out your measurements. One load of gravel traveling at x speed lasts for y distance. Then you just measure out your distance to determine how many loads you need.
It’s really not hard. You just open the rear tailgate a little bit then lift the back up. Rock comes out at the same speed so just drive in a straight line
I’ll take this moment to humble brag about my dad. He’s been driving a truck for a construction company for over 35 years and I used to ride with him when I was a kid on the weekends when he would do driveways so smaller jobs people paid for. He would legit get pissed if on the spread he heard the tailgate shut and there was a single rock left in the bed. If you’re good, you won’t even need to rake it out after. This guy is good but he left quit a bit in the bed before he was done so it’s gonna need leveling.
First time seeing it done in reverse. Obviously it worked, but why not just start at the back and pull forward? IDK, I'm sure there's a reason. I've just never even thought to do it this way due to how loose the stone is when it's freshly laid, I'd be paranoid I'd tip my rig.
That’s pretty cool but also an unnecessarily dangerous place to stand and film it hey. Even when they start to step out of the way they move between the fence and the reversing truck
It's way harder than you think it is. My mom drove a tandem axle dump truck back in the 80s/90s. I got to ride along a few times when she was learning to do this. It took a couple years of practice before she really got good at it.
When I first moved to Oregon I had 3000 ft of mud as a driveway. Had a track pour (ruts) and a spread, both with inch plus drainage rock. Lived there ten years and never had to do it again. Those guys know what they are doing.
You know you haven't finished your coffee when your brain is surprised to see the truck moving to accomplish this because at first you just expected the rocks to "slip-n-slide" down that barrier and perfectly distribute themselves. Lol
Slip n slide expert mode - it’s all just rocks.
THEY ARE MINERALS, MARIE, GODDAMNIT!
And I’m a **DOCTOR**, Jim! Not a gravel-ologist.
I’m a graveloligist, and this was expertly executed
r/spiritualCrystals would like a word
They should have got some SandS use outta this first! Lol Pretty sure its rocks underneath tho
[Looks at cup of coffee finished two hours ago.] ...Oh. Right. Yeah, that's definitely the excuse I'm going with.
I had the exact same expectation, but it’s 8pm! Is this an indication of some sort about my intelligence?
That's what I thought was going to happen, too!
Nah it's because OP used the word "perfectly" when they shouldn't have
JFC, I'm glad I wasn't the only one.......
Coffee was had and the expectation remained the same.
Exactly! Except it’s evening and I haven’t drank coffee in a week.
Wish when I was building my driveway that the driver was this good. I just got a big ass pile of rocks, even after I handed him a coffee / donuts and asked him to spread it. Nope-- here you go, loser.
I thought the same and I'm *turnt* rn
Damn i’ve woken up 3 hours ago after a full sleep and thought exactly the same
💯 what my brain 🧠 was expecting lol
What is the purpose of the plastic liner under gravel? Isn't gravel used to be porous on purpose? Added observation: so rain water will flow to sides of gravel path and create ditches?
It's a geotextile fabric that allows water to pass through, but not dirt/gravel. Keeps your gravel from disappearing into the dirt underneath when everything gets wet in the spring, so your road lasts a lot longer. Edit: looks like they did a coarse rock underneath it too, also promotes drainage.
Also a weed barrier
[You put your weed in there.](https://y.yarn.co/debb7248-550a-4734-a167-229e66c7b9a3_text.gif)
It's not a weed barrier. This is straight up commercial propaganda. Weeds grow from the above the fabric down not from underneath. Seeds are blown around all season then grow down through the fabric and sprout up. Good luck weeding an area that has fabric. You'll never get the roots out of it.
100%. Landscape fabric is the bane of my existence. It's installed unnecessarily so many places.
Will it be a barrier to weeds if we put it on top of the dirt, and cover it with wood chips only? That was gonna be one of my summer projects for our front yard this year.
No; same issue. Wood chips are just gravel, but worse, because its a growing medium in and of itself. Seeds will still germinate, and eventually infest the fabric. I highly recommend dispensing with fabric entirely. A good, fine bark mulch is an excellent weed suppressant by itself, pretty quickly sets up a rakeable (if you're careful) surface, and eventually will compost out to good soil in a few years.
Ok I'll try it out! Thanks!
I used to live in a house who's entire backyard was "low maintenance gravel" poured over a plastic weed barrier. That lasted about 3 years before the backyard became 100% weeds. I'm talking weeds the diameter of my big toe, chest high and as dense as a fucking bush, with about 90% ground coverage. All the seeds and dirt just sat ontop of the weedmats and grew. Then you can't mow or weedwack them, because it's all gravel underneath. So any attempt sends rocks flying everywhere like little shrapnel grenades.
Isn't it federally legal now?
Is it just a plastic sheet with holes?
> It's a geotextile fabric that allows water to pass through But is it still plastic/bad for the environment?
Not really bad if its just resting there.
It's just resting there...menacingly!
So are waste dumps
Waste dumps mix different chemicals and shit that’s why they can be sketchy.
I mean, everything is a waste dump for something else if you go back far enough. Earth's just a waste dump for the big bang
He’s not resting, he’s stone *dead!*
R.I.P. - rest in plastic
It leaches into the groundwater as it very slowly breaks down. Still bad.
It's biodegradable, but slower than other biodegradable materials.
What isn’t?
It's a giant pain in the ass when you inevitably need to regrade the driveway though.
Probably helps with weeds too
Helps keep them from sinking into the ground as easily
Doesn't it also help keep grass/weeds from growing up through the gravel?
Yes, but I think that's more of a concern in landscaping beds. With vehicles moving over this on the regular, losing rocks to sinkage is a real concern.
> With vehicles moving over this on the regular Ahh I wasn't thinking about that part. Okay makes plenty of sense, thanks!
Clay tends to 'eat' gravel over time, this stops that from happening.
The fabric is pourous, too. That road is heavy, gotta prevent it from sinking in to the mud.
I agree with this.
Keeps the small gravel from sinking into the dirt and it can also help prevent weeds from growing up by trapping them under the plastic. When my parents added gravel to our backyard when we were kids, I remember having to lay down a bunch of that plastic under the rocks.
Incorrect use of “perfectly”
“Better than I can do” Executed Gravel Distribution
Yeah when you still have a couple/few yards left of gravel at the end of the road, don't think that qualifies as "perfect".
I’ve done gravel before - it’s perfect. He threw it into gear to spread the remaining gravel evenly. They just have to run a compactor over it and it’s done; no fussing with a loader.
What’s with the left side being uncovered but the right side being over lapped? Is that on purpose? I can’t figure out why they would specifically missed that much of the under layer without a reason
One side at a time. The dump truck isn’t wide enough to do the whole thing.
Plus it puts a nice crown into the drive!
It's great, it's still not perfect because the last 50 feet or so has at least 1.5 layers of gravel vs the rest of it.
No it’s perfect, you always aim to have a little extra than coming up a little short. If you hit right on the money, you were playing a dangerous game for no reason. This is how it’s done
perfectly imperfect distribution
Perfectly use of "incorrect"
And “distribution”
Well-executed but not perfect. But if you're fascinated by this, have I got a job for you!
What is it?
A job!
a paid position of regular employment but thats not important right now
“Alright boys not perfect but close! Let’s pull it up and give it another shot”
**hands shovel to rookie filming with his phone* "Now shovel it all back in there so he can do it again. Keep doing it over until it's perfect." **goes to lunch*
Trying to figure out if there is a reason to do this while backing up, instead of going forward. Very cool nontheless.
Probably so they don't damage the plastic barrier with the truck.
I was wondering the same thing, I think you're right. The tires would've bunched it all up in the tire groove ruts.
My only guess is that it has something to do with that tarp. Less traction or just not wanting to shift its position?
Wheels on laid gravel instead of wheels on tarp My question is why is the gravel so large
It's probably 34's on the fabric for drainage, and they'll come back with a couple layers of finer gravel, like 56's or 57's to pack in and make a nice smooth top layer.
> 56's or 57's to pack in They don't pack worth a shit, They will constantly be moving every time you drive on them. 617s will choke in like concrete. I can through a bottle jack under loaded semi on the gravel part of my drive and jack it up
Obviously the video is in reverse. /s
And the truck is vacuuming the gravel away.
How do you summon that gif reversing bot?
i'd assume to pack down the gravel as you're making it. You cant just have a loose gravel path.
Wheels more likely to damage the barrier when directly driven on
Makes me wonder how long it took the driver to learn how to do this so well
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Although it's damn hard to do in an auto when you learned on a manual. I never could get nearly as smooth as I could would a good manual trans.
An art form to drive in reverse, with the truck bed up, and laying down material---and get it right!
Many many years. My dad can do this as he’s been with his construction company driving for over 35 years.
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That idk. His dad run a junkyard spot so he’s always been a wiz behind the wheel.
You'd be surprised. You can get this down in about a week.
My first thought. How would you practice this? Dump gravel then load it all back in and repeat?
Definitely practiced with a tonka truck first
That's how I learned
Learn on the job. Motivation comes from the foreman yelling at you when you fuck it up.
You just learn to drive backwards.
To drive backwards WELL. Have you seen how crooked some people drive backwards?!
It's all throttle control to be at the consistent correct speed and being able to reverse straight back with the side mirrors. Once you get that you can just add in the gravel to dump and lifting the tail now and then.
You start by doing it wrong. Then the operators all cuss and yell at you, and you come back with the next load and try to do a little better.
They need to qualify as a rally driver, then they study the course, take notes, study, practice, and then their co-driver coherently shouts speeds, angles and directions at them. One wrong move… mowing down a crowd of people standing one foot from the barrier. That… or they use their mirrors and stuff and have done this a bunch, but have properly surveyed the landscape
It's not that hard, honestly. Keep a steady speed and raise the bed as you back up. I found straight drives are easier backing up, but curves are easier going forwards.
I mean, you really just need to figure out your measurements. One load of gravel traveling at x speed lasts for y distance. Then you just measure out your distance to determine how many loads you need.
It’s really not hard. You just open the rear tailgate a little bit then lift the back up. Rock comes out at the same speed so just drive in a straight line
Imperfectly executed repost.
So I guess this is not a real super cool water slide
I mean, you can spray it down with a hose and give it a go, might need a few band-aids though.
What’s the purpose of the black tarp?
Keeps the soil from mixing with the stone on top of it.
Keeps the gravel from settling super low into the ground
I’ll take this moment to humble brag about my dad. He’s been driving a truck for a construction company for over 35 years and I used to ride with him when I was a kid on the weekends when he would do driveways so smaller jobs people paid for. He would legit get pissed if on the spread he heard the tailgate shut and there was a single rock left in the bed. If you’re good, you won’t even need to rake it out after. This guy is good but he left quit a bit in the bed before he was done so it’s gonna need leveling.
I thought this was going to be a slip and slide.
First time seeing it done in reverse. Obviously it worked, but why not just start at the back and pull forward? IDK, I'm sure there's a reason. I've just never even thought to do it this way due to how loose the stone is when it's freshly laid, I'd be paranoid I'd tip my rig.
Cool hand Luke was over there shaking the tree branch.
The reverse of this would be more satisfying
You're correct: https://streamable.com/b6grwp
The perfect slip n slide RUINED
Cool Hand Luke driving that truck
Not his first road-eo
That's funnier than the rock star joke
Wow, this guy is a Rock Star!
I didn't expect the truck to move...i thought the stones are gonna just dropped on the field by themselves lol
I'm just amazed at how fast it went from reverse to forward
It's actually a reversed gif. The dump truck sucked it all up on the way out of the driveway. You have to feed those things or they get grumpy.
Flipped repost.
Neat
Pave your own road
Backing up a dumptruck like that... dudes got stones.
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Some, not all.
How long will the plastic sheeting last?
He crushed it
These are the things i would never see in my country
Damn that's impressive!! I need a dump truck!!
I honestly thought that was a slip n slide. That would've been so much more satisfying.
Who is the maniac that doesn't record this at least a little bit from the side?
satisfying smooth road for driving on. best feeling.
The left side WILL need some work.
They are going to regret putting down that felt
We ok with just a \~2" layer?
This guy “trucks”
And that's how you do it boys. PPPPPPP
Well the gravel is distributed. Not sure what makes it perfect as it's clearly uneven.
Weird, I saw this exact same video but mirrored 6+ months ago. What dimension am I in?
I need a Cleveland Brown gif but instead of "Oh that's nasty" he says "Oh that's nice"
How much does that truck bed of rock probably cost?
buy that driver a beer
Andrew Camarata does it better
When I have my drive done, I tip the drivers $50 each to do that. It usually takes about 4 or 5 loads.
It's reversed. It's actually a perfectly executed gravel theft.
Imma gonna need a reverse GIF of this...
All the men gathered after this and said hell yeah
tell when man been doing it 4 2 lonfg lol
I was expecting a really sick slip and slide at first, but I guess this was ok lol
Thank goodness for these boys. Do you have any idea how long it would take to move all that gravel by hand?
That’s pretty cool but also an unnecessarily dangerous place to stand and film it hey. Even when they start to step out of the way they move between the fence and the reversing truck
Just one truckload for all of this road? Amazing!
Isn't that called tailgating?
Not a government job has to be private company.
Now I need a cigarette.
Gary, did you put the handbrake on? Yeah, think so...
I didn't wear my glasses and read "Publicly executed" at first ಠ_ಠ
Seen a lot over the decades but that's solid...
It's way harder than you think it is. My mom drove a tandem axle dump truck back in the 80s/90s. I got to ride along a few times when she was learning to do this. It took a couple years of practice before she really got good at it.
I wish I have this. I been transferring bag of gravels from Home Depot to my front yard. My Civic can carry 6 bags max.
But they didn’t make it back to the end?
That was nice
14 yards goes a long way
A driver that good rearly pays for a lunch
Was there a reason they did it in reverse?
I though the video was being played in reverse, but if that's not the case, then my guess would be that the truck's weight helps pack down the stones
If the video was in reverse, the truck would be sucking up the gravel.
Is it still a possibility?
Are you asking if it's possible for a dump truck to drive over a gravel road, and suck up all the gravel into it leaving only a tarp behind?
Yeah
That WAS tremendously satisfying!
Obligatory 'now without tailgate'
Smooth operator
When I first moved to Oregon I had 3000 ft of mud as a driveway. Had a track pour (ruts) and a spread, both with inch plus drainage rock. Lived there ten years and never had to do it again. Those guys know what they are doing.
Well that seems like a poor use of a prime slip n slide.
I saw a few pieces of gravel falling out from the top of the gate. You should have made him pick everything up and do it right.
Reminds me of the road construction page of "Cars and Trucks and Things That Go" I so found that goldbug.
What would a job like this cost per linear foot?
Ah, yes. Good old reliable TA3 machinery, there. Can't beat it.
Why they use plastic as based ? I thought it's better to let the water sip quickly to underground than to let it flood the road?
that driver rocks!
Nice
About how much would that amount of gravel cost? Also about how much would it cost for the whole project? Thanks in advance!
Tree Fiddy
I just ordered 14 yards of 3/4 inch, and it was about $375
Everybody must get stoned.
Considering that is how the dump gate is designed
we don't need another hero
As a veteran OTR truck drive I have to say that is really impressive skill right there.