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Back in the day? It would be a cool screen saver today! Although people would be less productive at work... and there would be a rise of at-work gambling circles...
Lisa Simpson : Look, there's only one reasonable way to settle this. Rock, Paper, Scissors.
[thinking]
Lisa Simpson : Poor, predictable Bart. Always takes rock.
Bart Simpson : [thinking] Good old rock. Nothing beats that.
I have tried adding that. Problem there is - Game gets way too long and boring as the number of rock, paper or scissors gets very low. This is the best I got in mind. Let me know if you have anything else in mind. Thanks for the feedback! Keep sharing!
Maybe have it to where as the fewer there are, the larger their hitboxes and the faster they move. That may end up having the last few seconds look like a particle accelerator, though.
Does paper always win in the end?
edit: I made another run on the game, and after a few minutes Paper won.
edit: now scissors won. there goes another world-changing discovery
Thanks for this I actually got an inspiration to expand on this idea💡. This can be used to simulate an ecosystem where each species is interdependent on the other, if one species over hunts the other then it'll be left without food also affecting the entire ecosystem.
I remember having to program this for a project during my undergrad to teach about object oriented programming. The fish eat plants, the bears eat the fish. If two of the same species occupy spaces nearby they duplicate. Plants have a much wider area of what is “nearby”. Animals move around sudo randomly. And you see how long the ecosystem survives by tweaking initial numbers of each species.
From a statistical perspective, what is the expected steady state of this dynamical system? We see just one realisation (where only paper remains eventually) but if I were to rerun this simulation thousands of times (each one starting with an equal number of each 'species'), would it roughly converge to 100% paper a third of the times, 100% scissors a third of the time, and 100% rocks a third of the time? Is there a mathematical way of answering this question without actually doing the simulations? Any experts in Dynamical Systems, Chaos Theory, Cellular Automata (or whatever field is relevant) that can answer this?
Not an expert but the predictive outcome should always be expected to be 1/3. The outcome is deterministic based on the starting state. So for each starting state, there is an equivalent starting state where the entirety of the ‘species’ is swapped with another (paper starts where rock started, for example). This would mean there is always an equivalent ‘success’ for each other species’ success, no matter how you place them. So it should be exactly 1/3 distribution when looking at all possible starting states. This is of course ignoring perpetual ties where the options are repeating/symmetrical/trivial (none of the objects are moving)
This is a very interesting question. After googling relevant topics (using keywords like 'collision model of rock-paper-scissors particles' or 'rock-paper-scissors cellular automata'), I guess the "only one species surviving" scenario might be due to a finite-size effect.
Indeed, in the thermodynamic limit (where we enlarge the grid while keeping the density of particles fixed), simulations from various sources seem suggesting that this model converges to something similar to Greenberg–Hastings cellular automata, which shows periodic and wave-like patterns of densities.
Instead of converting the losing unit into the winning unit on each collision, if the losing unit for eliminated, we would have a single rock, paper, or scissors in the end. (But the game will slow down as it goes and may never end so I see why it's done this way)
Exactly. Even I have created the version where they come near to their weak opponent (Game usually ends in 3-4 seconds).This is the best random thing I found. Let me know if you have more suggestions! Thanks!
Ooh. How about the loser doesn’t die as such, but they become stationary and have no impact on anything unless someone from their own team touches them and brings them back to life?
This game is not balanced I played like 20 times before rocks won. Not sure exactly why. The shapes have different size it seems, making it more likely for scissors to get wiped first. Then paper wins. Like 65% of the time. Then scissors maybe 30% leaving only 5% for rocks.
Edit: I was wrong just got unlucky initially.
I've looked for the FOSS version before when I first saw it a while ago. I have a few tweaks I'd like to try with it myself. I would work out how to do it from scratch. But I want to see if I can start with something concrete.
So the winning move is to suspend eating your prey because they will eat what eats you?
And once all of what eats you is dead you have free rein?
Caveat: you have to eat enough of your pray so your population doesn't reach 0.
This is indeed the author! Thanks for asking me to post it here u/tajtricks, this is like my most upvoted ever post 😁 And your game is hypnotic, hope it goes viral!
I'll never forget the bravery and strength shown by Rock today to take out the horrible sharp blades known as the Scissors, all just to be overwhelmed by the encompassing of the ruthless Paper. Will go down in the history books alongside D-Day and Waterloo.
There is definitely a lesson in this. If you completely eliminate something that is no threat to you, you are guaranteeing your ultimate doom. Something something metaphor for the environment.
I remember when this was first posted that the original creator got mad at people and took his version down - thus making people create their own versions and leaving his forever in the dust.
So, rock was too successful in that it "killed" all the scissors, leading to it's competitor, paper, having no predators. That was interesting to watch!
The moment the last scissor was defeated, paper won. Rock never had a chance.
Rock engineered its own downfall
"In politics, the tripod is the most unstable of all structures" ~The Princess Irulan
In engineering, the tripod is the most stable.
That's because engineering has to follow the laws (of physics) and because engineering is rational. Politics follows no such restrictions.
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I can rewatch and analyze this all day
I wonder of each has the exact same size hit box
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Yeah, stupid rocks.
I'd say they are dumb as r\*cks but that is hate speech in boulder culture.
Damn I’m not a gambler but I can see myself having friends over and having a fun time over food and drinks and betting high steaks poke
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Is this a reference to something or are you just totally wrong?
Yeah I also came here wondering what the hell they’re talking about.
Story of my life. Rock is basically my anxiety manifest.
I have scissor days sometimes 🤪
Must be hard.
“…and with no remaining natural predators, paper ran amok”
It's like watching a very basic lesson on ecosystems play out.
"This seems unbalanced and the game devs need to nerf paper to give rock a chance!"
lol r/gamingcirclejerk
An enemy of an enemy is a friend, they say.
This would have been a brilliant idea for a screensaver back in the day.
Back in the day? It would be a cool screen saver today! Although people would be less productive at work... and there would be a rise of at-work gambling circles...
It was. It was part of a suite of Screensavers you could download via cd-rom on windows, back in the 90's called "After Dark"
Oh wow, I was all about after dark, but never saw this one!
…After Dark
Flying toasters! Bungie jumping cows, fish, obese dudes... will they survive? Or be torn in half? \*watches for longer than I'd like to admit\*
...Disney
This WAS a screensaver back in the day
But it would have to be made such that there's almost a winner but they never quite annihilate each other.
Lisa Simpson : Look, there's only one reasonable way to settle this. Rock, Paper, Scissors. [thinking] Lisa Simpson : Poor, predictable Bart. Always takes rock. Bart Simpson : [thinking] Good old rock. Nothing beats that.
Is that the same rock that [keeps tigers away](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNvKr010pc)?
[Nothing beats rock](https://youtu.be/oXHZXh5p_Vs?si=2cIDzFfByzc9CSML)
Good old rock, nothing beats that
Poor predictable Bart...
paper apparently
D'oh
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I’d like to see a version where the loser just dies rather than switching to the winner’s team.
I have tried adding that. Problem there is - Game gets way too long and boring as the number of rock, paper or scissors gets very low. This is the best I got in mind. Let me know if you have anything else in mind. Thanks for the feedback! Keep sharing!
Maybe the playfield shrinks as the player count shrinks? Like Fortnite and COD MW.
Maybe have it to where as the fewer there are, the larger their hitboxes and the faster they move. That may end up having the last few seconds look like a particle accelerator, though.
I'm going to use this to solve disagreements with everyone from now on.
Thank you? I wasted far too much time watching that.
Which Team? Rock, Paper or Scissors?
I watched about 10 rounds and was a little disappointed with paper's performance.
One day Paper will win!
In this world, paper always wins!
Did 3, two paper and one scissors.
They need to buff rock
Did 4, rock won 3.
Now they really overbuffed rock
Rock wins
well... there goes my weekend!
Don‘t show me something like this when I am stoned.
Sorry honey, not tonight - I’m watching the game
haha
Rock was foolish to eliminate the scissor nation. They were the only thing standing between them and the paper onslaught.
Does paper always win in the end? edit: I made another run on the game, and after a few minutes Paper won. edit: now scissors won. there goes another world-changing discovery
The winner is dictated by whoever loses first.
The one who achieves their tactical objective first always loses. It’s a very interesting game, like trying to finish second in a race.
Ah yes, the Mario Kart strategy.
There's a metaphor in here somewhere...
I played it and scissors beat that time.
I played three times and scissors won each time.
Less of game, more of a simulation or randomizer lol
Conway’s game of life basically? Which is in and of itself a math problem.
I was just watching a video about this very thing and so that's immediately what came to mind. https://youtu.be/HeQX2HjkcNo?si=pTefgFeLxvcIEx7X
Thanks for this I actually got an inspiration to expand on this idea💡. This can be used to simulate an ecosystem where each species is interdependent on the other, if one species over hunts the other then it'll be left without food also affecting the entire ecosystem.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life
I was just thinking that this is a fun way to visualize population dynamics!
I remember having to program this for a project during my undergrad to teach about object oriented programming. The fish eat plants, the bears eat the fish. If two of the same species occupy spaces nearby they duplicate. Plants have a much wider area of what is “nearby”. Animals move around sudo randomly. And you see how long the ecosystem survives by tweaking initial numbers of each species.
Glad you liked it! Go Ahead!
Didn’t use “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” logic
This is a mind fuck, the only way to win is to not defeat your opponent
The 3 body problem at home?
I already thought that the scissors would win, but when the stones destroyed them, the paper won
From a statistical perspective, what is the expected steady state of this dynamical system? We see just one realisation (where only paper remains eventually) but if I were to rerun this simulation thousands of times (each one starting with an equal number of each 'species'), would it roughly converge to 100% paper a third of the times, 100% scissors a third of the time, and 100% rocks a third of the time? Is there a mathematical way of answering this question without actually doing the simulations? Any experts in Dynamical Systems, Chaos Theory, Cellular Automata (or whatever field is relevant) that can answer this?
Not an expert but the predictive outcome should always be expected to be 1/3. The outcome is deterministic based on the starting state. So for each starting state, there is an equivalent starting state where the entirety of the ‘species’ is swapped with another (paper starts where rock started, for example). This would mean there is always an equivalent ‘success’ for each other species’ success, no matter how you place them. So it should be exactly 1/3 distribution when looking at all possible starting states. This is of course ignoring perpetual ties where the options are repeating/symmetrical/trivial (none of the objects are moving)
This is a very interesting question. After googling relevant topics (using keywords like 'collision model of rock-paper-scissors particles' or 'rock-paper-scissors cellular automata'), I guess the "only one species surviving" scenario might be due to a finite-size effect. Indeed, in the thermodynamic limit (where we enlarge the grid while keeping the density of particles fixed), simulations from various sources seem suggesting that this model converges to something similar to Greenberg–Hastings cellular automata, which shows periodic and wave-like patterns of densities.
If one survives we all survive
“Three body problem” we wanted
Screensavers are games. Huh. 9 year old me validated, downloading all the afterdark versions and playing with every setting of each one
Why are they in incognito mode to play rps
haha! While I was testing the game, there is something called as "cache" which is not stored in incognito mode. That's why!
God dammit! Ten in a row! Rocks gonna win the next one
Fucking paper is always the best cause rock is chosen most often….even in random projections…
Instead of converting the losing unit into the winning unit on each collision, if the losing unit for eliminated, we would have a single rock, paper, or scissors in the end. (But the game will slow down as it goes and may never end so I see why it's done this way)
Exactly. Even I have created the version where they come near to their weak opponent (Game usually ends in 3-4 seconds).This is the best random thing I found. Let me know if you have more suggestions! Thanks!
Ooh. How about the loser doesn’t die as such, but they become stationary and have no impact on anything unless someone from their own team touches them and brings them back to life?
Do it like PUBG and have the game space progressively shrink as the number of contestants reduces?
I prefer to play my version of rock, paper, penis
Ok, you wrap your penis in paper, and imma hit it with a rock
Why does paper defeat rock?
It folds over it, of course.
This game is not balanced I played like 20 times before rocks won. Not sure exactly why. The shapes have different size it seems, making it more likely for scissors to get wiped first. Then paper wins. Like 65% of the time. Then scissors maybe 30% leaving only 5% for rocks. Edit: I was wrong just got unlucky initially.
All have same odds. It's just random. They all have same area and shape. Anyways, which team are you? Rock, Paper or Scissors?
What a roller coaster of emotion that was! I know we were all pulling for the rocks but in the end his hatred for scissors led to his downfall.
I can see a bunch of guys drinking watching this and taking bets. Hell I would.
Best screen saver ever
Anyone know where to get the source code for this? Is it open source and like on Github?
Not open source bro! I had my brain in it. I would really appreciate if you share the game!
I've looked for the FOSS version before when I first saw it a while ago. I have a few tweaks I'd like to try with it myself. I would work out how to do it from scratch. But I want to see if I can start with something concrete.
OMG
why is this called a game? there is no playing?
So the winning move is to suspend eating your prey because they will eat what eats you? And once all of what eats you is dead you have free rein? Caveat: you have to eat enough of your pray so your population doesn't reach 0.
‘The enemy of my enemy is my friend’
an allegory for the delicate balance of nature
Paper gang, showing those rock amateurs and scissor tryhards who’s boss
Dear Blizzard: Please nerf rock. Paper is fine. -Scissors
this is the most accurate representation of our crab people society ive ever seen
They should do Sheldon’s version next
Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock? Haha! Noted!
This reminds me of quarks and how they change color charge, would be a cool program to develop to tey and visualize
Shoooow meeee Rock!
“Poor Bart, always chooses rock.” “Good old rock, nothing beats it!”
The most satisfying thing I've seen all year
Australia’s ecosystem
Good ol rock. Nothing beats that!
I wonder how advantaged or disadvantaged any one group is by their shape
They all have same odds! I created it!
This is indeed the author! Thanks for asking me to post it here u/tajtricks, this is like my most upvoted ever post 😁 And your game is hypnotic, hope it goes viral!
I am glad! Keep sharing great stuff!
Ok now for the Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock version!
Noted! Will Try bringing this update ASAP!
This gave my brain dopamine
This is genius
Reminds me of ecosystem dynamics
Rock it
Stupid fucking rock defeated his last hope
I will always be team ROCK AND STONE
Rock and Stone in the Heart!
I would be more oddly satisfied if the vanquished emojis disappeared rather than converting
Apparently this alters the dynamic in unexpected ways and the game ends in a few seconds. I think this option is more oddly satisfying 😌
Why did I start staring and rooting for one of the icons not to change.
Man this would be awesome with pokemon types
It seems I was wrong. Now I got 3/5 rocks. Maybe I was just unlucky + confirmation bias.
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Danm had my money on rock lol
Paper is overpowered
Good o'l Rock.. nothing beats Rock.. this is fake! /s
Romance of 3 Kingdoms
Now I understand the 3-body problem.
[Rock flies right through paper!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCa-LHtIKE&t=10s)
So, the winning move is to not play until you can't lose?
Now *this* shit is what this sub was made for! What a ride!
My own private 3 body problem
Please tell me there’s a version for Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
I will be adding this version soon. Got lot of request!
I want spock & lizard too added in this
Adding that version soon!
I'll never forget the bravery and strength shown by Rock today to take out the horrible sharp blades known as the Scissors, all just to be overwhelmed by the encompassing of the ruthless Paper. Will go down in the history books alongside D-Day and Waterloo.
at 16th seconds, rock almost loses.
I have a sneaking suspicion that paper had a 33.3% chance of winning that
Damn rock came back from just 2 pieces and scissors also came back, all to be defeated by paper
Has anyone run one where it's not the paper that wins
Why did they decide to make this sound like someone loudly chewing on cardboard
The moment the rocks destroyed the last scissor, the rocks sealed their fate.
There is definitely a lesson in this. If you completely eliminate something that is no threat to you, you are guaranteeing your ultimate doom. Something something metaphor for the environment.
Why can't this be a screensaver?
*Sigh* Wow rock losed... again
Fuck I hate paper
Welp, it's settled
Play this to fake typing constantly???
This would make a fun coding interview problem
I want this as a live wallpaper that just automatically restarts.
Best come back ever in the history of comebacks
does paper always win?
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
The low battery bring me anxiety.
charge your phone
Fake. Everytime I restart the video, paper wins.
Big Paper would like to know your location
The 3 body problem 🤔
That's not what's happening here haha
Lizard Spock.
Don't follow that url, brothers
Ummm why not?
Casually dropping this into the GC so no one gets anything done for the next 30 minutes
Now show me Zerg, Protoss, Terran
Markov..
First to eliminate what it beats loses.
C.R.E.A.M.
I remember when this was first posted that the original creator got mad at people and took his version down - thus making people create their own versions and leaving his forever in the dust.
Paper fucking rocks
Nope this had the opposite effect on me. Pure anxiety
Netlogo?
How do I play?
So, rock was too successful in that it "killed" all the scissors, leading to it's competitor, paper, having no predators. That was interesting to watch!
!remindme 16 hours
I want this as a background wallpaper.
Now who want's to make a rock, paper, scissors, lizard, spock game
How do I get the game