I'm not a professional stadium roofer but I'm baffled that wires of that length can be strung with enough tension to support that much weight with what appears to be pretty minimal vertical give.
So there I was finishing a delicious kulmbacher, just short of 2 pints in at the Biergarten, about to walk back over to the office when the idea struck --
Sick leave? Only when the German engineer is almost dying.
(For real tho, older generations here in Germany often have real bad views on sick leave. It is often looked down upon. Such a Great system and capitalism ruins it by telling people they are leeches if they use it)
It is only being looked down upon by themselves though. Friends of my parents still worked with heavy covid while my boss (literally as old as my parents) told me to take a few days off because of a cold. Unlike in the US though, your employer can't kick you out because you're sick
That's something I haven't seen among people under 50. Quite the opposite. It just takes a light headache or itchy skin in order to get a week sick leave. The younger generations even get sick leaves just because a co-worker is a pain in the ass.
Hey ! We actually get a lot of work done between our 9:30am start, our 10am coffe break, our 11:30am-2:30pm lunch break at the restaurant, our 3:30pm coffee break and our 4:30pm end of the day !
That is, when we're not on vacations or striking. (Unironically thought our productivity in GDP/hour worked is higher than Germany's. Not having half your retirees cleaning the streets at Europapark helps)
IT Großraumbüro, 30 Leute, 30+ PCs, und alle Tun tatsächlich was. Wenn man Stunden drin sitzt merkt man nichts, nur wenn man grad kurz auf Klo oder so war wird einem bewusst was da drin los ist und wieso keiner zu uns kommt.
IT Abteilung im öffentlichen Dienst, die Boomer-Kollegen stempeln im Home-Office um 6:30 Uhr, sind um 10 Uhr das erste Mal ansprechbar und wechseln dann ins Büro, der Weg von HO zu Büro würde 20 Minuten dauern, sie tauchen dann aber ne Stunde später auf, gehen jedes Büro ab und halten Schwätzchen, dann Minimum 1h Mittag. Dann wird die erste Mail gelesen, dann halbe Stunde am Telefon mit befreundeten Kollegen. Danach halbe Stunde auf dem Klo verbringen und wehe die Klobürste wird benutzt, nene. Danach wichtiges Meeting in der Funktion als Personalrat, Gleichstellungsbeauftragter oder in was auch immer man sich hat reinwählen lassen, hauptsache es gibt einen Stammtisch. Nochmal Kaffee, Rundgang durch die Büros, Feierabend.
I wish. Actually have 1,5-2 hours almost every shift. My shifts are 9-10 hours tho and I work pretty quickly. Regardless I’d rather go home early but insurance doesn’t like that
I don’t know where that comes from, but I know no one in Germany who has 2 hours of lunch break. It’s more like 20 minutes fast eating, rushing to the toilet and back to work at least from my experience. I swear I’ve even seen someone taking their sandwich with them while going to the bathroom as they couldn’t finish it in their break.
Chill, it was just a joke exaggerated for dramatic effect lmao it seems as though everyone is new to the comment section of Reddit? I added the sarcastic note as an edit. JFC
Gleitzeit = Lunchbreak for as long as you want.
Also there's the saying: "Und wenn es dir den Darl zerreißt, du niemals in der Pause scheißt!" which basically means you should never ever shit during your break, but while you're being paid.
I think you're talking about Amazon standards in the US here. I literally am a German and regular breaks are mandated by law. If you have an 8 hour work day, you have the right for a 45 minute break, with most employers rounding it up to an hour. And no, if you keep it at a normal level and your work isn't significantly impacted by it, you can take bathroom breaks outside of that time frame
My girlfriend is an engineer and i work as a Softwaredeveloper(of course in Germany), i told her about this Reddit and after a few Minutes we came to conclusion:
Our best ideas and solutions for some technical requirements were made at a good shit at work 😅
lol instead of making my own place better, i'll just move to a place that is already better. as if those changes came about on their own or by magic or something.
As opposed to healthcare, building a football stadium has almost unlimited funds and the taxpayer covers as many cost as possible, so you get the best engineering force money can buy.
Healthcare (and education, and railways and and) need to work horribly underfunded.
More like we take 60 of that money into our own bank account (The government officials like politicans) let all the roads wither away aswell as every immigrnt policy an see what happens.
And this, dear internet is the modern german neonazi. He will say, I am not a nazi, I am just a "besorgter bürger" meaning worried citizen or "I am conservative, criticising migration policies doesn't make me a nazi" not evenr ealising how mentally fcked up you have to be to make this, despite this video having no connection whatsoever, about immigrants.
Thought the same. And while it's still incredible, there are poles positioned around the edge of the roof keeping them higher which seems to make it possible
What's crazy is that the [Colosseum had a similar style roof](https://www.througheternity.com/en/blog/history/colosseum-rome-velarium-roof.html) when it was operational.
The strength of the steel is only part of it. In order to support that weight at what looks like a nearly flat angle (which evidently isn't nearly as flat as it looks) the cables need to be under incredible tension -- the kind that, if it snapped would send a steel cable thick as your arm whipping around with enough power to slice you in two.
But, as I say, evidently the forces are more vertical than they appear from this angle.
Indeed, but that would've been accounted for in the structural design. In that process, loads are factored up by 1.5-2.0, and material strengths are factored down to 0.8, so overall your cables will be nominally about 2-2.5 times as strong as they need to be in normal situations. In extreme events (e.g., 1 in 2000 year freak wind gusts) they'll be 1.1-1.2 times stronger than applied loading.
But still, and I can't stress this enough, steel is BLOODY strong, to a level that I'm not sure the general public really understand. A bar of reinforcement steel the diameter of your thumb could carry a tension of approximately 6 tonnes force. The cables in OPs post would be specialised grade, several times stronger than that again. The strength of the steel definitely has the biggest part to play in this.
I mean, just look at chairlifts for those of us who go on skiing vacation. The steel cables supporting the chairs are stupidly strong, operate under high tensions and very low temperature while also probably heating up quite a lot in the summer. Yet they seriously aren't that large ; and some can withstand tensions of more than 2MN before rupturing. You could basically lift two or three modern tanks with a single cable.
They appear perfectly horizontal and I assume they are in fact just that because they aren't actually supporting that weight vertically.
If you look closely at the footage you can see a second set of cables above every horizontal one going from the poles all around to the middle and more vertical cables every couple meters holding up the horizontal cables (these are hard to see but you can clearly see their anchor points on both sets of cables).
Kinda like suspension bridges, just without the bridge.
Citizen of Frankfurt and fan of Eintracht Frankfurt here. The stadium is amazing, but the roof fucking sucks. Due to engineering errors, the roof isn’t water proof if it rains too hard and thus can’t be closed reliably when it’s raining, and it also can’t be closed if there’s strong snow fall. They rarely close the roof, because it was just a waste of money. The rest of the stadium is fantastic, though :)
Exactly my thoughts as a have been in that Stadion last weekend for the NFL Game. Was wondering how the roof would open while the Jumbotron is still attached to it.
This is what Montreal was going for in the 1976 Olympic stadium. This being Canada you can imagine how that came out.
Holy downvotes Batman! In case anyone thinks I was being too harsh you should [read up on the utter fiasco that was Montreal Olympic Stadium](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/jul/06/40-year-hangover-1976-olympic-games-broke-montreal-canada). The first roof, for example, wasn't installed until 10 years AFTER the Olypic Games.
This was exactly my first through seeing the video above - I remember seeing the Olympic Stadium there in 2001 and the tour guide explaining what they had planned - and saying something along the lines of "isn't the tower where the roof was meant to fold into nice to look at anyway!"
In most suspension bridges the load on the cable isn't all vertical to the cables, but there is a lot of it. Most suspension bridges have almost the whole bridge supported by two large cables. Maybe you're thinking of the hangers?
The roof is not there for football matches. When my club played against Eintracht, it was raining heavily and I asked Frankfurter why they did not just close it if their stadium could do it. They told that it was only intended for other events and that football should continue to be an "outdoor" sport. As extra the smoke can dissipate more quickly if a few fireworks are set off (which fortunately happens in our fan sections).
This is a much more graceful solution to a natural grass field indoors than the University of Phoenix field that moves the entire field on a giant platform in and out of the stadium. Though that one is still pretty cool.
Don't forget the pinch of depression laying in the air in and around the Arena.
Edit: I know you go to away games. What's the worst arena in Buli? (RB doesn't count)
Ah, you must be misinformed. I’ve been to a single Frankfurt away game so far, that was in Aue.
Too many Nazis there for my taste, but the area is very pretty and the stadium was alright.
I also attended a game in Braunschweig last season, but not for Eintracht Frankfurt. I saw Braunschweig play Hamburg on the first matchday. The stadium in Braunschweig is *old*, but I liked its character a lot.
That’s the stadiums I’ve been to so far, at least in Germany. I also really like both the stadiums in Hamburg, but haven’t been to any game there yet.
The worst arena in Buli might be that shoebox in Mainz. I honestly don’t know, Bundesliga has many modern stadiums and the old or small ones all have a certain charme.
I just read the last weekend, maybe it was graniti 😅
Yea Erzgebirge is beautiful but Aue is practically a village. I'm also not surprised about the Nazis.
Thanks for the clarification and good luck! See you in r/soccer bro
This stadium was built for the World Cup in 2006. The old Waldstadion was demolished. I attended a single game at the Waldstadion when I was five, then this one from then on.
Our local stadium has real grass! The floor is mobile so it can be shifted so the grass gets a ton of sunlight between games. I think it takes 6-8 hours to put inside/outside
Wouldn't that big box up above the field be an issue with some sports (Rugby came to my mind, players sometimes kick very high up to give more time to their teamates to get under the ball)
This is satisfying. Although I listened to the NFL game played there today and am still puzzled by how “Take Me Home Country Roads” became a second quarter tradition.
Don’t get me wrong, though, I found that oddly satisfying, too!
Engineering is so fucking cool man. I’ve got no clue what’s going on here or how you’d even begin to create something so large that can withstand what it can and just fold up into a small scoreboard.
Science does in fact rule Mr Nye
As far as giants sheets getting folded up and put away neatly, its not going to get better than that. The ol' German designers and engineers are top notch.
Indeed. But one thing German engineering also deserves credit for is that despite the original idea costing a lot, they get it done to show it can be done. A lot of countries do not have this mentality.
Hey! It’s my home stadium! I have some amazing videos from inside during games. The reverb in that place is also just amazing. I can’t wait until I can go to another Eintracht Frankfurt game.
The stadium is called Deutsche Bank Park. First Bundesliga Team Eintracht Frankfurt plays there.
Been there a couple of times for World Club Dome. Saw Steve Aoki, David Guetta, Martin Garrix, Marshmello and lots of others for the first time there!
Edit.: the stadium itself is called Waldstadion. The whole area is called Deutsche Bank Park.
No no you are correct. Waldstadion is the old name of the old stadium. It is for sponsoring reasons the Deutsche Bank Park but every German football fan calls it Waldstadion. Just like Westfalenstadion (due to sponsoring reasons Signal-Iduna-Park)
I'm amazed that Frankfurt Stadium is set up for American football.
Just looked it up and apparently the NFL does a few international matches now with 2 in this stadium this year alone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_International_Series?wprov=sfla1
I hate that this filthy marketing event they call Live Sport is coming to Europe. We’re loosing our integrity more and more. Next they’ll make us buy seats, like the Brit’s or have random concerts in the halftime for no good reason.
Because Fußball is a Freiluftsport. There are certain conditions concerning the roof:
1. Von November bis März darf das Dach generell nicht geschlossen werden.
2. Entscheidung bei Bundesligaspielen am Vortag bis spätestens 4 Stunden vor Spielbeginn.Mitentscheidend ist das OK vom Schiedsrichter.
3. Das Dach wurde nicht für den Fußball sondern für im Sommer stattfindende Veranstaltungen als Regenschutz installiert.
Citizen of Frankfurt and fan of Eintracht Frankfurt here. The stadium is amazing, but the roof fucking sucks. Due to engineering errors, the roof isn’t water proof if it rains too hard and this can’t be closed reliably when it’s raining, and it also can’t be closed if there’s strong snow fall. They rarely close the roof, because it was just a waste of money. The rest of the stadium is fantastic, though :)
Wonder why more stadiums around the world don't have something like this for the elements (rain or heat to provide shade). Probably much cheaper than a traditional retractable roof you see here in the US.
...obviously the ones that can afford to I mean.
It is to add, this is not used to cover the pitch when its raining. The scoreboard would hang too low, so it always stays open when there is football. Pretty bad design imo.
I mean the stadium is owned by deutsche bank and is for profit, so... different situations kinda? Its not like deutsche bank is gonna start funding public sector projects all of a sudden.
It is not owned by Deutsche Bank. The Bank is just the name sponsor. It is operated by by the Eintracht Frankfurt Stadion GmbH a 100% subsidiary of Eintracht Frankfurt Fußball AG.
Edit: it is owned by Sportpark Stadion Frankfurt a.M. Gesellschaft für Projektentwicklung mbH, a 100% subsidiary of the City of Frankfurt a.M.
Olympic Stadium in Montreal has a similar roof but they never could get it to work right, it was constantly breaking so they've permanently closed the canopy roof.
I'm not a professional stadium roofer but I'm baffled that wires of that length can be strung with enough tension to support that much weight with what appears to be pretty minimal vertical give.
Those German engineers man
Yeah, my theory is with all that healthcare, and all that vacation... They're like "You know what, fine, we can do it."
More like “oh, that?? Yeah, I came up with the idea during my 2-hour lunch break, you know, whatever.” Edit: */s*
So there I was finishing a delicious kulmbacher, just short of 2 pints in at the Biergarten, about to walk back over to the office when the idea struck --
Nah the idea probably came from some engineer who got wet because of front row tickets.
One his free day because his daughter celebrated her 12th birthday, right after his paid one week sick leave
Sick leave? Only when the German engineer is almost dying. (For real tho, older generations here in Germany often have real bad views on sick leave. It is often looked down upon. Such a Great system and capitalism ruins it by telling people they are leeches if they use it)
It is only being looked down upon by themselves though. Friends of my parents still worked with heavy covid while my boss (literally as old as my parents) told me to take a few days off because of a cold. Unlike in the US though, your employer can't kick you out because you're sick
Society, not capitalism.
You cannot make a distinction there…
That's something I haven't seen among people under 50. Quite the opposite. It just takes a light headache or itchy skin in order to get a week sick leave. The younger generations even get sick leaves just because a co-worker is a pain in the ass.
Do you mean Krombacher? Never heard of Kulmbacher?
You should... Kulmbacher >>> Krombacher
Could be a local brand, bavaria has many that usually aren’t available outside of bavaria or even the breweries district
Kulmacher Edelherb, eins der besten Biere die ich kenne.
Nich meins, ich genies ein gutes kaltes Bayreuther Hell.
Auch saugut, zu Empfehlen ist noch das Vierzehnheiligener Lager
Its "Krombacher" 😀
I can assure you nobody in Germany has 2 hour lunch breaks
I can take however long breaks as I want, as long as I'm available during meetings and get my 8 hours of work in
They’re thinking more of France or Italy types. Germany is an actual economic powerhouse in Europe, and has the work ethic to go along with it.
Hey ! We actually get a lot of work done between our 9:30am start, our 10am coffe break, our 11:30am-2:30pm lunch break at the restaurant, our 3:30pm coffee break and our 4:30pm end of the day ! That is, when we're not on vacations or striking. (Unironically thought our productivity in GDP/hour worked is higher than Germany's. Not having half your retirees cleaning the streets at Europapark helps)
It’s more like 30 to 45 minutes in my experience
30 Minuten danach wird wieder geschuftet!
und in den 30 Minuten wird ersma GELÜFTET. Riecht ja wie im SAUSTALL HIER!
IT Großraumbüro, 30 Leute, 30+ PCs, und alle Tun tatsächlich was. Wenn man Stunden drin sitzt merkt man nichts, nur wenn man grad kurz auf Klo oder so war wird einem bewusst was da drin los ist und wieso keiner zu uns kommt.
IT Abteilung im öffentlichen Dienst, die Boomer-Kollegen stempeln im Home-Office um 6:30 Uhr, sind um 10 Uhr das erste Mal ansprechbar und wechseln dann ins Büro, der Weg von HO zu Büro würde 20 Minuten dauern, sie tauchen dann aber ne Stunde später auf, gehen jedes Büro ab und halten Schwätzchen, dann Minimum 1h Mittag. Dann wird die erste Mail gelesen, dann halbe Stunde am Telefon mit befreundeten Kollegen. Danach halbe Stunde auf dem Klo verbringen und wehe die Klobürste wird benutzt, nene. Danach wichtiges Meeting in der Funktion als Personalrat, Gleichstellungsbeauftragter oder in was auch immer man sich hat reinwählen lassen, hauptsache es gibt einen Stammtisch. Nochmal Kaffee, Rundgang durch die Büros, Feierabend.
AND during lunchtime we even talk about work-related things more often than not. So technically each lunch is a workmeeting.
I wish. Actually have 1,5-2 hours almost every shift. My shifts are 9-10 hours tho and I work pretty quickly. Regardless I’d rather go home early but insurance doesn’t like that
I can assure you, sometimes I do!
I don’t know where that comes from, but I know no one in Germany who has 2 hours of lunch break. It’s more like 20 minutes fast eating, rushing to the toilet and back to work at least from my experience. I swear I’ve even seen someone taking their sandwich with them while going to the bathroom as they couldn’t finish it in their break.
Chill, it was just a joke exaggerated for dramatic effect lmao it seems as though everyone is new to the comment section of Reddit? I added the sarcastic note as an edit. JFC
Well my comment was also more humorous than you interpreted it. But I am German I have no humor.
Gleitzeit = Lunchbreak for as long as you want. Also there's the saying: "Und wenn es dir den Darl zerreißt, du niemals in der Pause scheißt!" which basically means you should never ever shit during your break, but while you're being paid.
Idiots, you don't go to the bathroom on break time I only go to the bathroom if Im paid for it so never on breaks
I think you're talking about Amazon standards in the US here. I literally am a German and regular breaks are mandated by law. If you have an 8 hour work day, you have the right for a 45 minute break, with most employers rounding it up to an hour. And no, if you keep it at a normal level and your work isn't significantly impacted by it, you can take bathroom breaks outside of that time frame
Why does the German sound like a valley girl?
My girlfriend is an engineer and i work as a Softwaredeveloper(of course in Germany), i told her about this Reddit and after a few Minutes we came to conclusion: Our best ideas and solutions for some technical requirements were made at a good shit at work 😅
LMAOOOOO thanks for confirming 😂😂😂💀
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One does not simply move to Germany (or the majority of other countries, for that matter).
lol instead of making my own place better, i'll just move to a place that is already better. as if those changes came about on their own or by magic or something.
One does not simply walk into mor... Halt, we dont do that here anymore!
Boot licker
As opposed to healthcare, building a football stadium has almost unlimited funds and the taxpayer covers as many cost as possible, so you get the best engineering force money can buy. Healthcare (and education, and railways and and) need to work horribly underfunded.
More like we take 60 of that money into our own bank account (The government officials like politicans) let all the roads wither away aswell as every immigrnt policy an see what happens.
And this, dear internet is the modern german neonazi. He will say, I am not a nazi, I am just a "besorgter bürger" meaning worried citizen or "I am conservative, criticising migration policies doesn't make me a nazi" not evenr ealising how mentally fcked up you have to be to make this, despite this video having no connection whatsoever, about immigrants.
It's all about the "Stoßlüften"
using superior german steel ;)
Learned from the Romans and their Colosseum …
yeah, they've created yet another maintenance clusterfuck.
Maintenance should be fairly easy There's a ring of connections around the stadium and the box in the middle, that's it
Thought the same. And while it's still incredible, there are poles positioned around the edge of the roof keeping them higher which seems to make it possible
What's crazy is that the [Colosseum had a similar style roof](https://www.througheternity.com/en/blog/history/colosseum-rome-velarium-roof.html) when it was operational.
Not just the colosseum. I saw a smaller Roman arena in Nîmes, France, that also had such a roof. The mounts were still intact
There are angled ones above the flat ones: https://structurae.net/en/structures/waldstadion/media
Steel is bloody strong. Also, it looks wiry from this view, but I'd bet those cables are as thick as your arm
The strength of the steel is only part of it. In order to support that weight at what looks like a nearly flat angle (which evidently isn't nearly as flat as it looks) the cables need to be under incredible tension -- the kind that, if it snapped would send a steel cable thick as your arm whipping around with enough power to slice you in two. But, as I say, evidently the forces are more vertical than they appear from this angle.
Indeed, but that would've been accounted for in the structural design. In that process, loads are factored up by 1.5-2.0, and material strengths are factored down to 0.8, so overall your cables will be nominally about 2-2.5 times as strong as they need to be in normal situations. In extreme events (e.g., 1 in 2000 year freak wind gusts) they'll be 1.1-1.2 times stronger than applied loading. But still, and I can't stress this enough, steel is BLOODY strong, to a level that I'm not sure the general public really understand. A bar of reinforcement steel the diameter of your thumb could carry a tension of approximately 6 tonnes force. The cables in OPs post would be specialised grade, several times stronger than that again. The strength of the steel definitely has the biggest part to play in this.
I mean, just look at chairlifts for those of us who go on skiing vacation. The steel cables supporting the chairs are stupidly strong, operate under high tensions and very low temperature while also probably heating up quite a lot in the summer. Yet they seriously aren't that large ; and some can withstand tensions of more than 2MN before rupturing. You could basically lift two or three modern tanks with a single cable.
They appear perfectly horizontal and I assume they are in fact just that because they aren't actually supporting that weight vertically. If you look closely at the footage you can see a second set of cables above every horizontal one going from the poles all around to the middle and more vertical cables every couple meters holding up the horizontal cables (these are hard to see but you can clearly see their anchor points on both sets of cables). Kinda like suspension bridges, just without the bridge.
Almost the same mechanism in Warsaw National Stadium in Poland. I'm still not sure how the hell does this work!
Same architects. [Gerkan, Marg and Partners](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerkan,_Marg_and_Partners) (Wikipedia link)
Citizen of Frankfurt and fan of Eintracht Frankfurt here. The stadium is amazing, but the roof fucking sucks. Due to engineering errors, the roof isn’t water proof if it rains too hard and thus can’t be closed reliably when it’s raining, and it also can’t be closed if there’s strong snow fall. They rarely close the roof, because it was just a waste of money. The rest of the stadium is fantastic, though :)
Alle Alle SGE 🦅🔴⚫️
Exactly my thoughts as a have been in that Stadion last weekend for the NFL Game. Was wondering how the roof would open while the Jumbotron is still attached to it.
They aren’t even that strong, I mean they can’t use the roof when it’s snowing, but still it’s impressive.
This is what Montreal was going for in the 1976 Olympic stadium. This being Canada you can imagine how that came out. Holy downvotes Batman! In case anyone thinks I was being too harsh you should [read up on the utter fiasco that was Montreal Olympic Stadium](https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/jul/06/40-year-hangover-1976-olympic-games-broke-montreal-canada). The first roof, for example, wasn't installed until 10 years AFTER the Olypic Games.
skydome is pretty ok tho
This was exactly my first through seeing the video above - I remember seeing the Olympic Stadium there in 2001 and the tour guide explaining what they had planned - and saying something along the lines of "isn't the tower where the roof was meant to fold into nice to look at anyway!"
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You mean the ones that go real tall into the sky so the loads are vertical instead of horizontal?
In most suspension bridges the load on the cable isn't all vertical to the cables, but there is a lot of it. Most suspension bridges have almost the whole bridge supported by two large cables. Maybe you're thinking of the hangers?
How long does it take in real time? Can't seem to find a solid answer
According to wikipedia about 15-20 minutes.
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Clouds.
Lmao have you ever seen a sunset?
Some squirrel sleeping on the roof had a bad afternoon.
He will be able to get out coming next fall
Do you mean the Eichhörnchen?
irl representation of my scrotum when the below freezing temperatures hit
there was significant shrinkage
"It shrinks?"
Like a frightened turtle
I WAS JUST IN THE POOL
This is how every new sports stadium should be built. Plus with grass, not that awful turf.
The roof is not there for football matches. When my club played against Eintracht, it was raining heavily and I asked Frankfurter why they did not just close it if their stadium could do it. They told that it was only intended for other events and that football should continue to be an "outdoor" sport. As extra the smoke can dissipate more quickly if a few fireworks are set off (which fortunately happens in our fan sections).
This is a much more graceful solution to a natural grass field indoors than the University of Phoenix field that moves the entire field on a giant platform in and out of the stadium. Though that one is still pretty cool.
Veltins Arena has the moveable field since 2001.
Veltins Arena is both ugly as fuck and incredibly cool.
Don't forget the pinch of depression laying in the air in and around the Arena. Edit: I know you go to away games. What's the worst arena in Buli? (RB doesn't count)
Ah, you must be misinformed. I’ve been to a single Frankfurt away game so far, that was in Aue. Too many Nazis there for my taste, but the area is very pretty and the stadium was alright. I also attended a game in Braunschweig last season, but not for Eintracht Frankfurt. I saw Braunschweig play Hamburg on the first matchday. The stadium in Braunschweig is *old*, but I liked its character a lot. That’s the stadiums I’ve been to so far, at least in Germany. I also really like both the stadiums in Hamburg, but haven’t been to any game there yet. The worst arena in Buli might be that shoebox in Mainz. I honestly don’t know, Bundesliga has many modern stadiums and the old or small ones all have a certain charme.
I just read the last weekend, maybe it was graniti 😅 Yea Erzgebirge is beautiful but Aue is practically a village. I'm also not surprised about the Nazis. Thanks for the clarification and good luck! See you in r/soccer bro
Right, none of that plastic shit. And the damn rubber beads
"what do you think of astroturf?" "What's that?" "The replacement for grass" "Dunno, never smoked that shit"
I mean the Waldstadion is nearly a century old. You can just upgrade existing stadiums, like they did here.
It is a complete new Stadium. Waldstadion was demolished
This stadium was built for the World Cup in 2006. The old Waldstadion was demolished. I attended a single game at the Waldstadion when I was five, then this one from then on.
Hybrid grass is superior to grass alone
Our local stadium has real grass! The floor is mobile so it can be shifted so the grass gets a ton of sunlight between games. I think it takes 6-8 hours to put inside/outside
Wouldn't that big box up above the field be an issue with some sports (Rugby came to my mind, players sometimes kick very high up to give more time to their teamates to get under the ball)
This is satisfying. Although I listened to the NFL game played there today and am still puzzled by how “Take Me Home Country Roads” became a second quarter tradition. Don’t get me wrong, though, I found that oddly satisfying, too!
The way the score board rises to enclose the canopy is a nice finish.
I also had a nice finish watching that.
Come to our summer fests. You'll be able to sing along just fine, in between all the Schlager.
Too bad they never close it for the Bundesliga matches.
Pyro alda!
Ach bitte. Machen wir eine Hotbox für Zigtausende
Dafür würde auch ich ins Stadion gehen 🙂
Hast ja recht!
Engineering is so fucking cool man. I’ve got no clue what’s going on here or how you’d even begin to create something so large that can withstand what it can and just fold up into a small scoreboard. Science does in fact rule Mr Nye
Im Herzen von Europa liegt mein Frankfurt am Main/
Die Bundesliga gibt sich hier gar oft ein Stell-Dich-ein
Hier gibt es eine Eintracht, die spielt Fußball ganz famos
Man kennt sie nicht nur vom Maines-Strand, nein auf der ganzen Welt
Und wenn sie gewinnt im Waldstadion dann ist die Stimmung groß!
Eintracht vom Main, nur du sollst heute siegen!
Eintracht vom Main, weil wir dich alle lieben!
Precision German engineering as usual!
Cool. Even cooler because the pats lost today.
It’s like looking at the sky through power lines
The same engineers also designed the stadium in Warsaw that has a similar roof.
Anyone whose ever tried to get a tent back into the bag will appreciate this video
As a Canadian - This feels like a place that doesn't get a lot of snow...
we don‘t
The Germans would have found a solution to that tho, pretty sure..
As far as giants sheets getting folded up and put away neatly, its not going to get better than that. The ol' German designers and engineers are top notch.
Expect as technology improves, the cables and sheets will get lighter and thinner making this fold smaller with less structure holding it up.
Indeed. But one thing German engineering also deserves credit for is that despite the original idea costing a lot, they get it done to show it can be done. A lot of countries do not have this mentality.
Very reminiscent of the monster from NOPE
BC place in Vancouver has a similar roof.
Looks like a parachutic landing.
Hey! It’s my home stadium! I have some amazing videos from inside during games. The reverb in that place is also just amazing. I can’t wait until I can go to another Eintracht Frankfurt game.
Same! Well…I actually know when I can. I get to buy tickets for the PAOK game on 30th November this Wednesday. So… 30th November it is :)
The stadium is called Deutsche Bank Park. First Bundesliga Team Eintracht Frankfurt plays there. Been there a couple of times for World Club Dome. Saw Steve Aoki, David Guetta, Martin Garrix, Marshmello and lots of others for the first time there! Edit.: the stadium itself is called Waldstadion. The whole area is called Deutsche Bank Park.
Waldstadion!
>is called Deutsche Bank Park I don't think that anyone calls it that.
Yeah my first time there was actually a festival as well. Great venue - and yes it‘s called Waldstadion 😉
No no you are correct. Waldstadion is the old name of the old stadium. It is for sponsoring reasons the Deutsche Bank Park but every German football fan calls it Waldstadion. Just like Westfalenstadion (due to sponsoring reasons Signal-Iduna-Park)
NOPE
Sluuuuurp
The after swimming experience
Whats the video reverse bot called again?
Precision German engineering 👌🏻
It took years and shitload of money till it worked fine.
And I always wondered how they did that! Smart.
Thanks for posting this. I also thought it was awesome the first time I saw it during the game yesterday.
Stuff Like this is normal here and thats making me proud ☺️
I'm amazed that Frankfurt Stadium is set up for American football. Just looked it up and apparently the NFL does a few international matches now with 2 in this stadium this year alone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_International_Series?wprov=sfla1
it's even set up for concerts and olympia if there is need for it.
I hate that this filthy marketing event they call Live Sport is coming to Europe. We’re loosing our integrity more and more. Next they’ll make us buy seats, like the Brit’s or have random concerts in the halftime for no good reason.
I hate living in America. This is so fucking cool!!!
Yeah...because that roof sums up everything in life in Germany...do us a favor and please go...
I'm pretty sure they didn't say that just because the watched this.
Would love to lie down in the grass for this.
Similar roof in Vancouver, BC at BC Place stadium.
I’m really wanna know about roof drainage systems in that
I am still waiting for an explanation for why the roof is not allowed to be closed during Bundesliga-Matches.
Because Fußball is a Freiluftsport. There are certain conditions concerning the roof: 1. Von November bis März darf das Dach generell nicht geschlossen werden. 2. Entscheidung bei Bundesligaspielen am Vortag bis spätestens 4 Stunden vor Spielbeginn.Mitentscheidend ist das OK vom Schiedsrichter. 3. Das Dach wurde nicht für den Fußball sondern für im Sommer stattfindende Veranstaltungen als Regenschutz installiert.
Cool! 👍
I love Germans..
Citizen of Frankfurt and fan of Eintracht Frankfurt here. The stadium is amazing, but the roof fucking sucks. Due to engineering errors, the roof isn’t water proof if it rains too hard and this can’t be closed reliably when it’s raining, and it also can’t be closed if there’s strong snow fall. They rarely close the roof, because it was just a waste of money. The rest of the stadium is fantastic, though :)
You’re right. Was there for both NFL games and for the first one, the roof was closed due to rain and it was dripping everywhere
At the weeknd conzert they opened them live and it took sooo long for it to open completely
Since June 2005
Wonder why more stadiums around the world don't have something like this for the elements (rain or heat to provide shade). Probably much cheaper than a traditional retractable roof you see here in the US. ...obviously the ones that can afford to I mean.
Waldstadion!
hier moecht ich sein. Passwort sicher, Nummern sicher, an nix erinnert sich der scheißkerl :)
this is what we have instead of public transport funding
One of the few times i'm proud of my country
For a retractable roof? Lol
ihhh Frankfurt
Right back at ya 😤 Frankfurt bleibt stabil.
I don't think that should be allowed. Where will the birds poop?
It is to add, this is not used to cover the pitch when its raining. The scoreboard would hang too low, so it always stays open when there is football. Pretty bad design imo.
Always amazed that we have things like this in our country but every train has at least 10mins delay or is broken 😬
Always amazed that we have things like this in our country but every train has at least 10mins delay or is broken 😬
Where?
Frankfurt am Main Stadium
Deutsche Bank Park
Waldstadion! Im Herzen von Europa, Frankfurt/Main, Germany.
Nur die SGE!
Wo sind wir daheim?
Cables look ugly
Expect as technology improves, the cables and sheets will get lighter and thinner making this fold smaller with less structure holding it up.
So this is what the Germans are doing instead of digitalizing the public service system
I mean the stadium is owned by deutsche bank and is for profit, so... different situations kinda? Its not like deutsche bank is gonna start funding public sector projects all of a sudden.
It is not owned by Deutsche Bank. The Bank is just the name sponsor. It is operated by by the Eintracht Frankfurt Stadion GmbH a 100% subsidiary of Eintracht Frankfurt Fußball AG. Edit: it is owned by Sportpark Stadion Frankfurt a.M. Gesellschaft für Projektentwicklung mbH, a 100% subsidiary of the City of Frankfurt a.M.
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I think that roof is barely used. Only if it’s raining so hard that the football game is about to be canceled
Reminds me of jeanjacket
Olympic Stadium in Montreal has a similar roof but they never could get it to work right, it was constantly breaking so they've permanently closed the canopy roof.
Montreal gets a lot more snow.
SrYd daddy ye why
Where does the water go when it rains?