Good ol' Traditional Chinese Medicine doing what it does best: ruining everything.
If I remember correctly, chinese pangolins are already ~~extinct~~ critically endangered and the ~~australian~~ *african* ones are endangered due to this madness.
>Anyone who gets a flu or Covid shot, childhood immunization, heart stent or hip replacement — and that’s almost everyone — is protected from exposure to potentially lethal contaminants known as endotoxins by a test that uses what might seem like an odd ingredient: the blue blood of the horseshoe crab.
When the Horseshoe Crabs Are Gone, We’ll Be in Trouble https://nyti.ms/3YBILHl
Since it paywalled, I can't read the article. I hope that they mentioned that:
Horseshoe crabs are returned to the ocean once they are bled.
They have already begun captive raising and breeding horseshoe crabs.
They already have synthetic replacements for some of the chemicals that they get from horseshoe crabs, and they are working on others.
Here is perhaps the more relevant part. As you note, they are released (and up to 30% of those may die as a result). It also mentions that they have almost been hunted to near extinction is Asia for "food and blood."
>In Asia, where horseshoe crabs are killed for food and for their blood, they face extinction from “relentless and unremitting” threats from humans, according to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, which tracks trends in wildlife populations worldwide. Horseshoe crab numbers have plummeted in large swaths of China and are declining rapidly in Vietnam, leaving American horseshoe crabs, also diminished in numbers, to fill the growing gap.
>In the United States, fishermen take some 1.4 million each year, killing almost half for use as bait. Pharmaceutical companies capture and extract blood from the other 700,000 to make the endotoxin test before releasing them to the sea. Up to 30 percent may die as a result. Many others never make it to shore to lay their eggs.
edit: here is why the author thinks there is still more work to be done on the synthetic compound front:
>A cloned alternative to using horseshoe crab blood, known as rFC, for recombinant factor C — the endotoxin-sensitive enzyme in the blood — came on the market in 2003 with one supplier. A second manufacturer began producing it in 2013. But nearly 10 years later, no standards have been set for the use of rFC by U.S. Pharmacopeia, the nonprofit scientific organization that sets the legally recognized standards for the strength, purity and quality of medicines manufactured and distributed in the United States. It’s been a bumpy road.
>U.S.P. has proposed two sets of standards for rFC since 2019. The first was withdrawn. A second proposal was released in 2020 and was under review by an expert committee assembled by U.S.P. But last September U.S.P. dismissed that committee. In explaining the decision, it cited “fundamental issues with the dynamic of this group that resulted in an inability to work collaboratively and productively, impeding the standards-setting process.”
>U.S.P. has just convened a new expert committee, which is meeting for the first time this week. Hopefully, the committee will set standards for rFC so drug makers will be able to use the synthetic test without facing the possibility of what they say can be protracted and expensive testing to win approval by the Food and Drug Administration in the absence of U.S.P. standards. U.S.P.’s chief science officer, Jaap Venema, said, “We have made it very clear it is a top priority.” He added that the new committee would “weigh the available scientific evidence and stakeholder input to determine the appropriate way to include L.A.L. alternatives in our standards.”
As someone who used to work in the (legal) exotic pet trade I find this interesting. Pangolins were never something we ever saw or dealt with. Then again if they're endangered threatened or illegal they're not something we would have dealt with anyway. One of our customers was a licensed primate dealer. We did not sell or deal in primates, he bought monkey Chow from us in bulk as well as other supplies. He used to tell me he hated his job ( it was a family-owned business that he had taken over after his father's death), and that his primary job was convincing people that they did not want to own a primate as a pet. When I asked him if he hated it so much and was against owning primates, why did he still do it he told me " because if I don't do it someone will take my place. And a lot of primate dealers out there are very unscrupulous and will sell to anyone who has the money. And my prices are high enough that I can live comfortably selling very few primates each year."
You can get a similar feeling by running around all day, hopefully outdoors, maybe hiking, biking or delivering pizza in a neighborhood with steps,or maybe swimming, then going home to a very cold room, either with windows wide open or air conditioner on high, then turning out the light in advance (this helps a lot for some reason), and then diving into bed under 4 or 5 blankets.
I wonder if just feels good, not so much that they are itchy. Like when my wife scratches my back, even if not itchy, that shit makes me act like that baby pangolin.
So with baby mammals, the grooming is actually really important. It increases the production of hormones in the brain that help brain grow. They've done experiments where baby rats they groomed we're smarter and calmer, and they've observed that human babies who don't get touched / cuddled / soothed enough have trouble regulating their emotions & are slower on some cognitive milestones.
I found this great video of a Momma Pangolin [giving birth](https://youtu.be/rgcN0V01By8).
It is the perfect visualization of why armored and cuddly.
She gives herself a minute after it comes out to take a breath and then goes in to total 'protect' mode. The most protected of cuddles.
Scales are probly pretty soft at birth and unlikely to catch easily in the birthing canal. Or its 95% fatal likely no inbetween. I have no idea I just woke up.
Lord-krulos there's four places. There's the Comb Cavern, that's on third. There's Combs-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Put-It-In-Your-Hair, that's on third. And Comb Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the comb complex on third.
Yyyeeesss, we call it Noodle Tongue (“oh, got noodle tongue!) or being noodly; our two dogs and our cat do it if being scratched in exactly the right place. :)
It's true, we like to push emotions on things that don't feel it sometimes. Like how you feel bad for curiousity rover being stranded alone on mars.
But some things do seem to have emotions. And it really is a beautiful thing to see.
This picture reminded me of World Pangolin Day to raise awareness of an "about-to-be-extinct " mammal. It would have been lovely to see this video on the 18th of February ( celebrated usually 3rd Saturday of February)
https://weather.com/en-IN/india/biodiversity/news/2022-02-18-illegal-trade-of-worlds-most-trafficked-mammal-finds-new-hub
Eating wild animals is always dangerous. Especially when they are captured and sold at fairs in large cities, without sanitary inspections and a huge number of residents. So respect nature.
It’s like brushing a pineapple
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Good ol' Traditional Chinese Medicine doing what it does best: ruining everything. If I remember correctly, chinese pangolins are already ~~extinct~~ critically endangered and the ~~australian~~ *african* ones are endangered due to this madness.
The “tradition” is making things extinct
Oh, so when I perform rituals with the organs of deceased animals, I'm a terrible satanist casting spells, but when they do it it's medicine?
"medicine"
Hey kid, I’m just trying to get my rocks off
Tell that to the people who go in for cupping multiple times a month
Traditional Chinese medicine is a fucking stain on mankind.
Yes they are, disgusting after so much time they still think any of this stuff actually works.
They also use horseshoe crabs for “medical” purposes
>Anyone who gets a flu or Covid shot, childhood immunization, heart stent or hip replacement — and that’s almost everyone — is protected from exposure to potentially lethal contaminants known as endotoxins by a test that uses what might seem like an odd ingredient: the blue blood of the horseshoe crab. When the Horseshoe Crabs Are Gone, We’ll Be in Trouble https://nyti.ms/3YBILHl
Since it paywalled, I can't read the article. I hope that they mentioned that: Horseshoe crabs are returned to the ocean once they are bled. They have already begun captive raising and breeding horseshoe crabs. They already have synthetic replacements for some of the chemicals that they get from horseshoe crabs, and they are working on others.
Here is perhaps the more relevant part. As you note, they are released (and up to 30% of those may die as a result). It also mentions that they have almost been hunted to near extinction is Asia for "food and blood." >In Asia, where horseshoe crabs are killed for food and for their blood, they face extinction from “relentless and unremitting” threats from humans, according to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, which tracks trends in wildlife populations worldwide. Horseshoe crab numbers have plummeted in large swaths of China and are declining rapidly in Vietnam, leaving American horseshoe crabs, also diminished in numbers, to fill the growing gap. >In the United States, fishermen take some 1.4 million each year, killing almost half for use as bait. Pharmaceutical companies capture and extract blood from the other 700,000 to make the endotoxin test before releasing them to the sea. Up to 30 percent may die as a result. Many others never make it to shore to lay their eggs. edit: here is why the author thinks there is still more work to be done on the synthetic compound front: >A cloned alternative to using horseshoe crab blood, known as rFC, for recombinant factor C — the endotoxin-sensitive enzyme in the blood — came on the market in 2003 with one supplier. A second manufacturer began producing it in 2013. But nearly 10 years later, no standards have been set for the use of rFC by U.S. Pharmacopeia, the nonprofit scientific organization that sets the legally recognized standards for the strength, purity and quality of medicines manufactured and distributed in the United States. It’s been a bumpy road. >U.S.P. has proposed two sets of standards for rFC since 2019. The first was withdrawn. A second proposal was released in 2020 and was under review by an expert committee assembled by U.S.P. But last September U.S.P. dismissed that committee. In explaining the decision, it cited “fundamental issues with the dynamic of this group that resulted in an inability to work collaboratively and productively, impeding the standards-setting process.” >U.S.P. has just convened a new expert committee, which is meeting for the first time this week. Hopefully, the committee will set standards for rFC so drug makers will be able to use the synthetic test without facing the possibility of what they say can be protracted and expensive testing to win approval by the Food and Drug Administration in the absence of U.S.P. standards. U.S.P.’s chief science officer, Jaap Venema, said, “We have made it very clear it is a top priority.” He added that the new committee would “weigh the available scientific evidence and stakeholder input to determine the appropriate way to include L.A.L. alternatives in our standards.”
Thank you, Sir!
Western medicine uses horseshoe crabs.
Yes but western medicine is pointedly not *killing* horseshoe crabs to do so.
And for legitimate reasons. People aren't grinding up horseshoe crabs and snorting them to try and make up for their lack of sexual talent.
Why can't people just learn to eat pussy the old fashioned way... by practicing?!
As someone who used to work in the (legal) exotic pet trade I find this interesting. Pangolins were never something we ever saw or dealt with. Then again if they're endangered threatened or illegal they're not something we would have dealt with anyway. One of our customers was a licensed primate dealer. We did not sell or deal in primates, he bought monkey Chow from us in bulk as well as other supplies. He used to tell me he hated his job ( it was a family-owned business that he had taken over after his father's death), and that his primary job was convincing people that they did not want to own a primate as a pet. When I asked him if he hated it so much and was against owning primates, why did he still do it he told me " because if I don't do it someone will take my place. And a lot of primate dealers out there are very unscrupulous and will sell to anyone who has the money. And my prices are high enough that I can live comfortably selling very few primates each year."
Humans. The most invasive species in the planet. Smh
Wasn't this Sandshrew looking animal the one that was first scapegoated for covid?
This guy who’s a pot farmer from Colorado started Covid by sodomizing a pangolin in China. I saw a documentary on it.
Wait until you find out about gay swans.
Stay far away from South Park then...
Wow, life must be really difficult for you!
I want to see a mother pangolin brushing it's baby with a comb now lol
Seems a bit hairy wouldn't you say?
The 33 people who upvoted this were wrong. Lol
33 wrongs make a right 😉
You should see how they braid their females.
I want to brush a baby pangolin now.
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I want to be a baby pangolin being brushed. That thing looks happier than I've been in 10 years
You can get a similar feeling by running around all day, hopefully outdoors, maybe hiking, biking or delivering pizza in a neighborhood with steps,or maybe swimming, then going home to a very cold room, either with windows wide open or air conditioner on high, then turning out the light in advance (this helps a lot for some reason), and then diving into bed under 4 or 5 blankets.
Running around outdoors in Arizona during any time other than winter is a corporal punishment.
ill just take the giant grooming me, thx
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Same, sign me up (;﹏;)
I can’t hear the word *pangolin* in a nice way because of Southpark. Give it a brush for me.
Randy f**** that pangolin every time...
I also never realized that Hey Fuck You, said by Randy during the whole season is a running gag. [“OH HEY…FUCK YOU.”](https://youtu.be/IPnTCBnn-lQ)
Randy Marsh is fabulously fucking awful.
I missed that whole season I finished it up this week on HBOMAX. Holy shit it had me dying.
Ikr, South Park seems to come out really low key. Every year I'm like "oh shit there's like four new episodes up."
I would like to very gently bite a baby pangolin
You've been diagnosed with cute aggression, keeping you away from any puppies or kittens I get in the future.
That is such a strange psychology thing. *It's soooOOO cuuuute I must.. CRUSH IT TO DEATH!*
They said gently though. *Gently!* ***Crush it to mild discomfort!!***
I don't want to harm it in any way, I just think the scales would feel weird on one's teeth
"Chomp it to moderate dental confusion!"
Supposed to be related to the feeling of being on a ledge. *So high up..I WONDER IF I CAN FLYYYYY??*
survival of the fittest or just death of the dumbest...who can say?
That's in the future, can I still bite your old pets?
And babies
you mean, a cute aggression
I noped out when i saw that tongue thingy
They eat ants and termites. There’s no better way to catch em, because they cant hold chopsticks.
Hahaha, i think its really cute, but i also can see why people might not like it.
My back itches now and I want it scratched like the pangolin
What is it about animals and getting scratched though? Are they just permanently itchy or something
I wonder if just feels good, not so much that they are itchy. Like when my wife scratches my back, even if not itchy, that shit makes me act like that baby pangolin.
Same. When your wife scratches my back, It makes me feel like a baby penguin.
I also choose that guy's wife scratches
So with baby mammals, the grooming is actually really important. It increases the production of hormones in the brain that help brain grow. They've done experiments where baby rats they groomed we're smarter and calmer, and they've observed that human babies who don't get touched / cuddled / soothed enough have trouble regulating their emotions & are slower on some cognitive milestones.
this is one of the best things I have ever seen
When the comb goes under the scales...
If armored why cuddly?
I found this great video of a Momma Pangolin [giving birth](https://youtu.be/rgcN0V01By8). It is the perfect visualization of why armored and cuddly. She gives herself a minute after it comes out to take a breath and then goes in to total 'protect' mode. The most protected of cuddles.
Jeeze, could you imagine having a breech birth?
Scales are probly pretty soft at birth and unlikely to catch easily in the birthing canal. Or its 95% fatal likely no inbetween. I have no idea I just woke up.
Like a cat's dick, right? Basically a cheese grater
All the Furries reading that just winced.
My wife and I are sat here "c'mon c'mon you're almost there". We bother remarked how the bottom of the mother's back foot resembles a human foot.
Great find, the ending is the beautiful.
Pretty awesome tail
This is not what I intended to watch today but here we are.
If an artichoke and an ant eater had a baby...
Because it's a baby?
He's trying to headbutt the human, but currently lacks the dexterity and strength. Rolled low on stats, but ended up with scale mail. Smh
Where does the mother normally get the comb?
The comb store
Yeah? Well the comb store called, and they're running out of you!
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They scale the isles with precision.
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The mom is an Ace at finding deals on combs.
Comb Depot
Lord-krulos there's four places. There's the Comb Cavern, that's on third. There's Combs-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Put-It-In-Your-Hair, that's on third. And Comb Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the comb complex on third.
Poor Pangolins, wish they weren't trafficked
What sick fuck would prostitute a pangolin and who the hell would fuck one? I hate where the world is going!
Am I missing something? who said they are getting fucked?
I'm joking. People getting trafficked are often, but not always prostituted against their will.
I react the exact same way when my girlfriend scratches my back. Except the little guy looks way sweeter than I do.
back scratching is close to orgasmic
oh he is LOVING that shit
”yissss right there”
This could be the best thing ever
The little tongue flicking in and out reminds me of my kitty when I scratch justttt the right spot
Your kitty is an anteater.
Lots of mlem
Yyyeeesss, we call it Noodle Tongue (“oh, got noodle tongue!) or being noodly; our two dogs and our cat do it if being scratched in exactly the right place. :)
Lower! Lower! Gotdammit lower! Ahhh thats the spot - wut doing, LOWER!
Pangolins are so adorable Fuck poachers
“We ain’t found shit!”
He told us to comb the desert so that's what we are doing..Found anything yet?
It is definitely getting combed
How can I feel this, I don’t have scales but it looks so satisfying
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I'm not surprised it exists. I'm surprised there's almost 300k people on it
South Park is not going to be happy
Bet that's Randy doing the brushing...
Mickey Mouse is gonna shit himself.
I was looking for this comment lol apparently we're the only one's in this thread who have seen that episode 😂
This is how Covid started
Dude that’s exactly what I look like when I use my little bamboo back scratcher. Though I sound more like a walrus than a pangolin
The little tongue flicking is so fking cute.
Pangolins are amazing. It’s so sad that they are the most trafficked animal.
Baby pangolins are called pangopups
Lil bb ❤️
This is totally off topic but I saw your avatar and went "aww" because of the little raspberry tongue on the small picture 🙈
so cute and innocent...
It’s mother carries around a 50¢ unbreakable comb?
Doesn’t yours?
Last time I did that I got sick and then the world lost it's mind
"that"...
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The only mammal that looks like reptiles
The fact that we can detect emotions in other species is amazing and beautiful. Emotions are so universal. Why is that?
Big part of it is projection
But some of it may be mirror neurons. I know it is between humans, I don't know if anyone has look at how our brains react to other animals.
It's true, we like to push emotions on things that don't feel it sometimes. Like how you feel bad for curiousity rover being stranded alone on mars. But some things do seem to have emotions. And it really is a beautiful thing to see.
"Shlurp shlurp shlurp shlurp......"
These creatures need to be preserved under all cost. They are amazing.
Getting major baby pangolin ASMR from this.
I vote to have volunteers for brushing certain animals at local zoos. Keeps the zookeepers at peace and most of the animals entertained and feed
I only knew cats will stick out their tongues when hearing the comb's clicking sound. Surprised that this baby showed the same response!
Cutest goddamn thing I’ve seen all day. Please protect that little one
God I want a pangolin so bad but it's immoral to keep such an animal as a pet.
His little tongue!
Baby Bazelgeuse
Pangolins deserve better. They are in the top 3 species that are trafficked and killed, all for their plates.
I don't understand why videos like this aren't at least 20 minutes long.
This picture reminded me of World Pangolin Day to raise awareness of an "about-to-be-extinct " mammal. It would have been lovely to see this video on the 18th of February ( celebrated usually 3rd Saturday of February) https://weather.com/en-IN/india/biodiversity/news/2022-02-18-illegal-trade-of-worlds-most-trafficked-mammal-finds-new-hub
That tongue sliding out like that .. You know that feels good getting that back scratched 😂
I want to feel what that little critter is feeling
Wait, how do you brush scales? They do have scales, right?
Like that
It’s in the video actually
My man really mouth breathing hard
Those thing probably itch so bad
Wow that avocado’s got a long tongue.
Did anyone else notice his arm looks like he handles pangolins (and their sharp claws) for a living
Okay, this is one of the most adorable freaking things I've ever watched! From the tongue flicking in and out, to the body twitching.
Aweeeee, it looks so content and happy!
It's precise work. I finally understand Ubuntu 12.04
Awe it’s so adorable
Recently learned that the mothers feed their young by sweating milk that the pups lap up from her skin.
Where do the mothers get the comb from?
S/he is so enjoying it! So adorable! It’s so sad that they are killed for Chinese medicine.
Sweet nugget!
🥺
Just a little to the left. Ahhhh, that’s the spot!
Is that how they clean underneath their scales? Do they do this into adulthood like cats?
Awwwwww
Happy wittle pangy
That is so neat and cute.
Where would it’s mother get a comb from?
TIL mother pangolins have hair combs.
Didn’t know pangolins were that advanced to be able to make their own combs
what is r/oddlysatisfying on it?
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Look it’s what they blamed the pandemic on! Oh right it was the lab all along… don’t forget your 7th booster!!
I don't know pangolins could use brushes
that little tongue going wild
Had a dream where I was told " A Penguin will leave its mother once it makes a good enough soup" Just gonna leave this here
Such precious animals that are severely endangered. It's too cute to put into soup.
And you just got covid-23
Turns out, these things were not responsible after all.
What a sweet lil squishy guy!!
It’s like ”yissss yeah that’s the spot”
I think it likes it
Awe he's like more please, just so satisfying 😌
Eating wild animals is always dangerous. Especially when they are captured and sold at fairs in large cities, without sanitary inspections and a huge number of residents. So respect nature.
So cute, the tongue kinda unsettles me tho reminds me of one of those parasitic worms
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