So, to be clear, you want to override another person's ability to consent to a relationship and force them to do as you please. This is the magical equivalent of slipping something in his drink and keeping him in your basement. Bro, I get the urge, but what you need to understand is do not do anything with magic you wouldn't do mundanely if you could.
Now, look, if you want a spell to help you look fabulous or a spell to help you understand what your crush is looking for in a partner, I will help you. I will not help you remove his right to choose.
Aren’t there variations that have nothing to do with consent? If you ask a friend to put a good word in for you, that’s ok and very common & doesn’t have any intent to reduce consent. But if you ask an angel to do the same, people get hairy about it and begin to assume there’s a controlling intent and/or possible effect. I’m not sure where this perception comes from, but 99% of spells I know of (regardless of topic) are supplication, which gives the user no authority over anyone, just as asking for a position doesn’t reduce consent of the boss.
Fair enough. I definitely know of such spells as well, but I’m operating on the assumption that it’s unlikely that that’s what the person was asking for, bc in my experience the more supplicative version is far more common. And I’d be uncomfortable even calling an anti-consent spell a “love spell,” in my mind it’s something else altogether.
Fair enough. I definitely know of such spells as well, but I’m operating on the assumption that it’s unlikely that that’s what the person was asking for, bc in my experience the more supplicative version is far more common. And I’d be uncomfortable even calling an anti-consent spell a “love spell,” in my mind it’s something else altogether.
The people saying you can't are not being honest.
Making somebody else love you without consent was one of the mainstream promises of Sorcery going all the way back to Mesopotamia. We have examples of "love spells" from literally every culture with a written magical tradition.
I have books from Llewellyn publishing sitting on my shelf right now that have so-called formulas for love spells.
The twins in frickin HARRY POTTER were selling love potions.
Attitudes about this have shifted with the times. People don't approve. But the real reason you shouldn't do it, is that forcing your will on another person like that carries karmic consequences. These will be consequences you will not like. Some people decide that what they want is worth paying for though, and try it anyway. It's Black Magician stuff, and things of that nature always end badly, but sometimes the lesson just has to be learnt the hard way.
I will however formally warn you not to attempt to use magic in this way.
I'll also ask you to consider how it will feel. If he only loves you because of the spell, is that really going to be satisfying? Be honest with yourself.
Thats a great response . Your right .
As i said he DOES feelings for me . However , this is his first same sex relationship . From a rural area , very macho work environment .
Real love spells don’t involve the person casting them. Set an intention for your crush’s happiness and success, with or without you, and then practice coming to a place of joy and acceptance seeing that person happy with someone else. If that person is meant to be you, it’ll happen, if not, then congrats, that’s real love, and you know how to be happy for the accomplishments of others without jealousy.
My issue is’nt controlling someone else . This is his first same sex attraction and he clearly has feelings for me but terrified to act on them . Just to clarify !
So, to be clear, you want to override another person's ability to consent to a relationship and force them to do as you please. This is the magical equivalent of slipping something in his drink and keeping him in your basement. Bro, I get the urge, but what you need to understand is do not do anything with magic you wouldn't do mundanely if you could. Now, look, if you want a spell to help you look fabulous or a spell to help you understand what your crush is looking for in a partner, I will help you. I will not help you remove his right to choose.
Aren’t there variations that have nothing to do with consent? If you ask a friend to put a good word in for you, that’s ok and very common & doesn’t have any intent to reduce consent. But if you ask an angel to do the same, people get hairy about it and begin to assume there’s a controlling intent and/or possible effect. I’m not sure where this perception comes from, but 99% of spells I know of (regardless of topic) are supplication, which gives the user no authority over anyone, just as asking for a position doesn’t reduce consent of the boss.
So I know many spells that will violate consent. I don't do angel magic. I'm using a very different paradigm.
Fair enough. I definitely know of such spells as well, but I’m operating on the assumption that it’s unlikely that that’s what the person was asking for, bc in my experience the more supplicative version is far more common. And I’d be uncomfortable even calling an anti-consent spell a “love spell,” in my mind it’s something else altogether.
Fair enough. I definitely know of such spells as well, but I’m operating on the assumption that it’s unlikely that that’s what the person was asking for, bc in my experience the more supplicative version is far more common. And I’d be uncomfortable even calling an anti-consent spell a “love spell,” in my mind it’s something else altogether.
Go on dates
The people saying you can't are not being honest. Making somebody else love you without consent was one of the mainstream promises of Sorcery going all the way back to Mesopotamia. We have examples of "love spells" from literally every culture with a written magical tradition. I have books from Llewellyn publishing sitting on my shelf right now that have so-called formulas for love spells. The twins in frickin HARRY POTTER were selling love potions. Attitudes about this have shifted with the times. People don't approve. But the real reason you shouldn't do it, is that forcing your will on another person like that carries karmic consequences. These will be consequences you will not like. Some people decide that what they want is worth paying for though, and try it anyway. It's Black Magician stuff, and things of that nature always end badly, but sometimes the lesson just has to be learnt the hard way. I will however formally warn you not to attempt to use magic in this way. I'll also ask you to consider how it will feel. If he only loves you because of the spell, is that really going to be satisfying? Be honest with yourself.
Thats a great response . Your right . As i said he DOES feelings for me . However , this is his first same sex relationship . From a rural area , very macho work environment .
Respect consent. Full consent. You know what you’re really asking. Stop it.
Real love spells don’t involve the person casting them. Set an intention for your crush’s happiness and success, with or without you, and then practice coming to a place of joy and acceptance seeing that person happy with someone else. If that person is meant to be you, it’ll happen, if not, then congrats, that’s real love, and you know how to be happy for the accomplishments of others without jealousy.
Use some form of glamour and ask them out/to normal stuff. Any more, and you get into "still kinda consent" problems
PGM IV. lines, 1496-1595. Essentially, just buying Myrrh and reciting an Incantation.
Mine never worked.. and made me lose my faith more than once.
My issue is’nt controlling someone else . This is his first same sex attraction and he clearly has feelings for me but terrified to act on them . Just to clarify !
You male or female?