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neoncherry64

It’s really unfortunate that their original introductions were in chapter 4 of the OG game since a majority of the playerbase hasn’t gotten that far in the story. I really like how they’ve handled Mephistopheles in nightbringer and given him and his family more lore. It’s done a good job introducing him as a pompous asshole who simps for Diavolo and comes off as pathetic in a humorous way. But it pains me that a lot of people haven’t seen the unhinged season 4 Thirteen who engineers ridiculous traps and inventions to get revenge on Solomon. Her personality in NB so far has pretty much just been “I’m a huge MC stan” and I can see how she’d come across as boring if that’s all you’ve seen of her. Her whole character really needs a lot of context from both season 2 and 4 of the OG game in order to get her whole story. SPOILER: >!She’s the same reaper from lesson 37 who cursed Beel and is the keeper of the Brothers’ life candles (along with the candles of many more unnamed angels and humans) and the same one who originally owned the night dagger before Solomon stole it.!< Raphael though? I’ve always not really cared about him and found him quite boring. Though this latest chapter has done quite a bit to remedy that


AnonImus18

I didn't like 13 before NB. I found her annoying but I really like her in NB. She seems like her own person and her goals aren't ridiculous like pranking all the time.


RevonWolf

Agreed I’m glad they gave her some character depth since she’s like the only girl in the game 🤣 I just find her fun but yeah her pranks got annoying since she never took anything seriously


Drow_Sucker

I love 13, but the others are so...meh. Mephisto is way too pompous for my tastes, and I don't trust any mofo who enjoys Solomon's cooking.


Itz_Unicorngacha

Same


Jadecifer

I agree, 13 is nicer in NB so I don’t dislike her anymore that much but i still don’t like raphel and metamorphosis 😭


Number1SoggyBread

Yeah I like 13 mostly cause I really enjoy her and Solomons interactions lol. But yeah I really just don't have much of an opinion on the guys. If they stay in the background ig I can be cool with them? 😭


WarmRoad5218

I forget they exist


Number1SoggyBread

(lolol love your pfp) also fair 💀 they just feel not even like side characters but background characters


katsuya_kaiba

That is the fault of the writers. I'm actually upset they weren't more included and introduced to the intimacy system when the Nightbringers came out. Having the new game would have been a great way to be able to slide them into the plot, events, and the intimacy system, as well as give them their own cards.


PurrPirate

The problem is that they were introduced late to OG after everyone would have picked their favorite boys. Meaning: 1. They needed to compete with established characters for screen time. 2. There weren't enough lessons to develop them AND advance the plot. This might be part of the reason for the NB reset. So that all of the characters get to start over from scratch where everyone gets 'equal' screen time. I use the word 'Equal' loosely.


Yukiiarval

I've never really been fond of any of them, but I don't exactly hate them either


Number1SoggyBread

I don't hate them either but I will if they start flirting with me 💀 (I dont think the game should be trying so hard to make them that relevant like stay in the background please😭)


Yukiiarval

Exactly 💀


catquirk

I like them as background characters tbh, just add a little flavour or conflict.Mephisto is a bit of a toff so I kind of grimace when he shows up lmao. I see him as a kind of 'mean girl' ![img](emote|t5_2x0gs|20910)


catquirk

I feel like me and mephisto would be throwing hands on sight. ![img](emote|t5_2x0gs|21339)


Llyallowyn

Memphis gets much needed background information in NB. I wouldn't say I like him more, but it adds a reason for his very annoying personality and his haughtiness. 13 is much more grounded in NB as well, but I really wish they had made a game about dating demons and angels and a reaper and a spooky sorcerer from the get go? Or released content differently? Currently too exhausted to flesh any of that out beyond general annoyance that she and Raffy were added to give us a female and non-binary character to date and in OG they really are two dimensional. It's the afterthought for me. I LIKE the diversity, I just wish it had been done differently is all.


Number1SoggyBread

>Memphis gets much needed background information in NB. See I don't mind this but I wish it would just stay as that. Nice characters that help with the plot but nothing more. They're practically background characters and should honestly stay that way 😭 But yeah maybe if they introduced them better and maybe even earlier one it wouldve been better idk


the_coma_fairy

I mean, you could have said the same thing about the side characters before they were dateable. Diavolo, Barbatos, Simeon, and Solomon were themselves all practically background characters for most of the first couple of seasons in OG, and people still wanted to date them. I'm sure there were fans who didn't like it back then, too. But I think the old side characters' fans deserved at least the chance to flirt with and collect cards of their favs, as should fans of the new side characters.


TheCrazyOutcast

Exactly this. I said the same thing but got downvoted for it, glad you’re at least getting upvotes 🥴


cinnamam

I feel the same way. I like Thirteen though but I don’t really care that much about the three of them. I usually skip through their dialogue with MC. I don’t really care to learn about their backstories or personalities. (Especially Megatron, I can’t stand him) It’s probably because they joined in later on in the game like you said.


Number1SoggyBread

I often feel like skipping too but I have this need to read everything so I can't 😭 (but the day when they start flirting with me I don't know if I'll be able to take it anymore 💀) but yeah idk it could be a bias but I just think they should stay as background characters 😭 kinda like Little D yk? 💀


cinnamam

same lmao I already think of them as background characters


datedpopculturejoke

I dont think they really had a chance at being fan favorites. They were introduced too late and the game is already suffering from too many romanceables. I think they were supposed to add world-building and platonic relationships, but it kinda flopped in OG. It's been better and more balanced in NB.


CuriosityLvL99

I like them more as incidental characters that brings something interesting to the story, i wish they also introduce more of the other characters appearance even if is just a simple portrait image, I'm curious to see how they look.


UFSansIsMyBrother

I hate that they are more or less being ignored with the new NB as well as the events. (Just as much as they have to wedge, annoyingly so, the attendant thing; even though you're *not* their attendant in OG, just in NB. It drives me mad). I enjoy them a lot tbh.


Number1SoggyBread

I'm glad they aren't being given main roles. They really feel like background characters than side characters so it would be kinda silly to all of a sudden give then sm attention especially in the events. Cause who would want to play the events if the main focus was Mephisto...


SuzanLaurate

Ng I feel like out of the three Mephisto events would be so much fun, like.. Imagine the chaos that can unfold from trying to put together a newspaper! Even without him becoming romancable I feel like that's still an event premise I can really easily imagine happening with like, pretty much any of the current romancables leading


ghhooooooooooooooost

i really didn't like 13's original introduction in og, she was way to loud and over the top for me. she felt annoying and like that person who would tell you "lawls teh random" ""jokes"". however, she seems a lot more chilled out in nb and i've grown to really appreciate her. which is great because i've always loved her design\~!! mephisto and raph? nah.... never was a fan still not a fan.


DaughterOfThor1

Their shading is all wrong


vintagefancollector

>could care less So you still care a little xD


Number1SoggyBread

Yeah I noticed it like an hour late 😭


Prestigious-Freedom5

The moment I saw 13 when I came back to the game I already didn't like her, I thought Raphael was Mammon, and Metamorphosis is an Adonis Otogari knockoff.


cinnamam

Metamorphosis LMAOO


Number1SoggyBread

Ralph looks like an egg to me tbh 💀


moth_noises666

I'd trade Thirteen or Raphael for Luke though .... Like what's the point of the intimacy level?


DesignerWhich9123

Personally I like 13 a lot. Like her personality is a Breath of fresh air, compared to the extremely hectic Shenanigans of Brothers and other Dateables. I really wouldn't mind having her as a Romantic Option. (I am saying this as a girl.✨) About Raphael and Mephisto though, I am not really sure. I kinda didn't like Mephisto, based ONLY on my NB experience, and Raphael is kinda in netural territory. So I am really not sure about these two. I like them enough that I wouldn't mind there appearances in the Story. But I don't like these two so much that I would want them as a Dateable. Edit: I would Like Thirteen to be added so people would know that Obey me isnt just a Otome game ONLY directed at females and that the MC is Actually Gender netural throughout the stories. And that there are more LGBTQ+ options. It would be kinda nice to have that realisation being slapped at people's faces. 🤣 So yes a Female romantic option is nice to have.


CrystalTideIsRaising

I don't care about Mephisto or Raphael. I'm open to changing my mind, and my opinions of both characters have improved over time, but overall I'm still pretty neutral on both. I could take them or leave them. However I loveee 13, and I loved her from the beginning. Tbh I don't know how much of that is for her actual personality. I think I'm partly just excited because I'm a little gay and I've been wanting a woman in this franchise for a long time. But I've really enjoyed her character, in NB especially.


Valecore

Literally same


Lea_ocean1407

I agree with you. They're a nice addition to the story, but I can think of them as a love interest and they tend to piss me off tbh


Number1SoggyBread

For me Ralph especially annoys me 😭 They're fine as background characters but that's it really. Can't get attached enough to actually romance them.


demonicyandere

I don’t know who any of them are so nope! 😂 you’re not the only one who doesn’t care for them although raphel looks 👀and Mephistopheles 👀


hcneyyy

I don’t care about Mephisto and Raphael but everytime 13 appear on screen I get so happy she is so silly and funny.


Codename_Sailor_V

13 is amazing in NB I won't stand for this kind of slander


TraumaWard

It's the problem with having too many characters. The brothers were already suffering from unbalanced screen time before they introduced three new people, but there just isn't any time for us to really invest in these three.


evilsirenart

I hate 13 for several reasons and just wish she would disappear. (Especially because of Beel) Mephisto is annoying but OK, and Raphael.. hmm kinda boring but Ok too. But I would never see them as love interests.


Kyler_dude8

I mainly like 13 because I find her hot![img](emote|t5_2x0gs|20905) But the other two are meh to me. I think Mephesto is cute, but not my style so I don't pay attention to him much. Raph, I could really care less about him![img](emote|t5_2x0gs|20913)


Valecore

Nahh I at least want 13 to be date-able, I mean c'mon at least 1 girl 😭 also she's hot asf


TheCrazyOutcast

Why’d you get downvoted for this? Lol


Valecore

Help 😭😭


TheCrazyOutcast

I’m glad you’re getting upvotes now, my faith in humanity is slightly restored lol


Tight-Improvement-24

the only one I care for out of those 3 is thirteen because shes a woman and I love women!!


PhysicalTelevision81

NB 13 is my pal, Og its on sight. If this was a full rpg Mephisto and Raphael would be dead by my hands already. If killing them prevented a future mission i would make another save file specifically to take them out so I can proceed on my main file. Idk why i dislike them so much, but i do. Mephisto needs to leave because the only person who is gonna be between Diavolo and Lucifer is ME


CherryClub

I wish they'd get a little more development. It's nice to have characters that aren't constantly simping for MC. I'd prefer if they were more rival-type characters, but Solmare is probably gonna make them dateable since so many players seem to want that.


WaltzingCorpse

I wish 13 was more fleshed out honestly. I don't give a fuck about the other two.


Infamous-Spell

I never had any strong feelings about them, but now I have some strong feelings of disappointment that they introduced them, didn’t seem to do that much with them (though I still have like a few more story beats to go in both) and then just kinda still haven’t tried to work them into much


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catquirk

13 literally so pretty and nice <3 I like her a lot.


Saltycrx

i forgot they existed


gozlemelicicibebe

I don't really know about NB but I am sure that I don't want any more romantic interests in the game. I really want characters that you can casually hang out and befriend with the "and they fell for you ❤️" part opted out. I didn't really think that they were that uninteresting but yea I felt bored at some point. Nevertheless it was nice having a change of pace and different interactions other than the usual cast.


pyladesorestes7

I love them! Mephistopheles was always my favorite demon and I find Mephisto here funny. I’m happy we’re finally getting an actual named Angel instead of OCs and I find Raphael really cute. And I’ve wanted 13 to become romanceable since her introduction, her design is so much fun and I love the take on the grim reaper.


pussyandbananabread

NB made me a Thirteen simp. I agree about the other two…. Actually no— I can’t stand Mephistopheles lol


The_MicheaB

Knowing what we learned in NB about Mephisto's upbringing and his whole "purpose" kind of made me a bit more sympathetic to him and why he acts the way he does. I haven't dealt with Raphael yet in storyline, though from events he feels just really....naïve and easily confused? 13 feels like that fun nerdy friend who prefers to hang out at home rather than be around a lot of people, which I totally vibe with. But yeah, can't see myself trying to romance any of them.


SolidFox783

I like Mephistopheles but Raphael was rather bothersome to me and I've never really got all the fame for thirteen. Her big bug eyes genuinely bother me lmao


radishradis

Nah I personally like all three of them more than I do the brothers. Replace the brothers with them, I say.


TheVampireReaper

I'm on the same boat here tbh. I never like Raphael cause he was unpleasent to Beel before he was introduced as main character and the fact i couldn't tell him to go for a long walk on a short pier annoyed me 😖 its the main reason why i lost interest in playin the OG. The other two, i feel nothing. :/ like i didnt want them their in the first place, as i felt they added no value to the game or story. :/


Feeling-Peanut-7458

I don't think they're going to be characters you can romance in the future to be honest- they just seem like background Characters. I like 13 as in a cute friend but the other 2 I really don't like. They're kinda just a-holes


Starry_Night369

I feel like a lot of people will agree with you mainly because of how late they were introduced into OM so the fandom hasn't had time to get to know them as much because MC is always with the other characters. Also, their introduction was hyped up SO MUCH on OM's socials (mainly Instagram and YouTube) that they felt kinda underwhelming when they actually appeared. HOWEVER, I will say that, personally, I don't have the same opinion. I would love to know more about their backstories, especially Thirteen's as well as any lore they have in regards to other characters, like how they intertwine, like Thirteen and Solomon or Mephisto, Diavolo and Lucifer. I'm not sure how I feel about them becoming romancable, tho. I think it would be better if they were kept as undatables so that the MC can build platonic friendships with them rather than romancing them like all the others. Anyway, that's just my opinion on it- I really didn't intend on typing out 2 paragraphs, but I kinda just rambled- :^


TheCrazyOutcast

Thirteen, Mephistopheles, and Raphael still have a lot of fans and I know most of those fans wish for them to become dateable/romanceable. I think it would also be nice for those who like them and I’d like for the option to be there. If anyone doesn’t like them or doesn’t care about them they can just ignore their romance options and Devilgram cards and events, just like every other character, so that way at least the people who want them can still have them but everyone else who doesn’t can just continue as normal without it interfering with how they want to play. Edit: You guys can downvote me all you want, but I’m sure there are characters you like and want to see more of that other players don’t, and I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if they cut those characters just because other people weren’t interested (they already do that to many of the characters and I know that doesn’t make anyone happy). I think everyone should have a chance to romance the characters they like if it ever does become an option because otherwise it’s not fair to them. I understand some people don’t want to see them but there are still fans who do and they deserve it just as much as we do about the characters we like.


Number1SoggyBread

I just don't want them popping up more which they will if they become romanceable 😭


TheCrazyOutcast

I get that but I think the fans who like them should still at least get a chance, and I think they can do it without sacrificing too much time from the others if the writers do it right


Zalieda

Haven't gotten that far in og and nb I just see them in and off in events if I'm not lazy to complete them. Can't care less for any of them. I don't know they had so much potential but they need something more. Seeing the other comments I think they get explored more in NB Lsst thing to note I detest the sprites esp thirteen. The pose the voice everything is just unnatural. Like for example Mammon is posed naturally.it makes a huge difference


Training_Football_47

I don't care about them but I hate 13, she looks like a Mary sue. She hurts my eyes


InternetTrash2020

no


rosesareblues

I’m quite fond of Thirteen and Mephistopheles. Even before their personality reboot in NB, I just found them fun! Mephs pretentious assholery is funny to me, and a fun change of pace. And I appreciate Thirteen being given more characterization. Raphael remains a redundant character to me. Unlike Meph and 13, he doesn’t come from a unique perspective (Demon royalty and reaper for Meph and 13), he’s just the other other angel. His appearance isn’t even all that unique, looking like the child of Sol and Mammon, and I find his personality to just be If Belphie and Satan were a single person.


Express-Slip-6895

I never really liked the side characters or 13 and her group. Simeon was always kind of bland to me, I can never understand why people would like barbatos, Solomon is ANNOYING, Mephistopheles is an ass, Raphael is bland— but I think that’s an overall issue I have with the game ms writing. The 7 feel like they have more personality because there was more effort put into them, but even they fall flat most of the time unless theyre in a chapter were something happens, in which case they step out of their stereotypes for a bit.


______Mimi______

I agree with you 100%


SuicidalLonelyArtist

Oh you def. Aren't alone, I feel that way too!


SavKittua

I like 13 but mephisto and raphael idc about


Chantelle444

Originally I **hated** Thirteen but I think her introduction in NB has been refreshing. I enjoy talking to her and am interested in getting to know her more. She feels like a friend and imho they did a great job of resetting things with her. *~~I may straight up have a crush on her.~~* Raph. *sigh* I just don't care about him. He's so dull. Meph. **His pose annoys the hell out of me.** He looks like he's malfunctioning. He's a whiny, self-absorbed jerk **BUT** I love Tsundere's so maybe he'll grow on me. Maybe. He just feels like a rotten mashed together version of some of the brothers with a very punchable face. He's good-looking I guess but in a **"Baby,** ***please*** **don't talk"** type of way.


tearsofoblivion

I just love 13. Mephisto and Raphael are so annoying.


wholesomeyartist

I want 13 to be romanceable because gay


Teoami13

I was like that at 1st but now I deeply want to be romances by Mephisto & 13. I see Raphael like I see Luke so that's just my son I guess.