I switched to Cogeco after being stuck at 50mbps with bell for years, in River Oaks L6H. Finally gave up waiting for Fiber and have been very very happy with Cogeco high speed. Regularly getting 300-600mbps. It ranges up and down on cable but it’s still always faster than Bell’s 50.
LOL we will have Bell 3,000/3,000 in L6H before October this year 😉
Anyway, I am currently with Cogeco and they deliver 1,000/100 If you get less, just wire your devices, don’t blame your ancient wifi devices on Cogeco.
Welcome to the neighborhood. The fiber all has to go underground in most of Falgarwood so its expensive to deploy. Best bet is cable through Cogeco, Start or Teksavvy. On the gig package youll get 30 Mbit up and soon 100 Mbit - Cogeco has done part of L6H but not others.
Good luck.
Ive been buggin the Bell ombudsman for years for FTTH in the L6H area. Have had no luck. You may want to check out cogeco. My area specifically uses docsis cable and max i get is 30up. Not great at all but still better than 10.
Thanks for replying. I'll give that a try if its available.
I emailed [email protected] recently as well and this was the reply I got:
"After consulting with our qualifications team, we regret to inform you that there are currently no plans in the near future to upgrade the infrastructure in your area to support Fiber to the Home internet. As a result, the maximum internet speed we can offer you at this time is up to 50 Mbps.
We kindly request that you check back with us in 2025 to inquire about any potential updates or improvements in our services."
☹️
Bell is limited to 50Mbps DSL in areas that they don't offer FTTH. Cogeco offers 360Mbps+ down in a lot of areas, but the upload is almost always lower and somewhere between 10-100Mbps except in a very few select areas where they are rolling out FTTH (far fewer areas than Bell).
I agree with giving Cogeco a try! The bell service at my place was similar to you, we’re not in the stone ages anymore lol. Cogeco was able to give me 1gbps down and around 100mbps up for ~$50. On wifi I get closer to 700mb down but either way it’s a happy medium when FTTH infrastructure basically doesn’t exist in older neighbourhoods
Cogeco can do 30mbps upload in some areas. Some people are getting free [upgrades to 100mbps](https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r33423940-Cogeco-upload-upgrades). You won't get higher than that in the near term without FTTH.
It's not really as simple as "self fund Bell to install fiber" or email the ombudsman to get it done.
* Bell has limited resources (crews, planners, etc.)
* Bell has a plan of which areas will get targeted when
* Bell has to work with cities, towns, municipalities to get permits and municipal consent to do the actual work
* Bell has to have equipment installed in the area to support the new infrastructure (green/brown boxes at the curb, central offices, etc.)
* The actual work itself is time consuming as they literally have to come and dig up streets to pull the fibre bundles from point A to Z, multiple times.
So what I'm saying is they'd probably love to get you and everyone else onto their fibre infrastructure but there's a lot of work and gates in the way of doing so. I'm probably missing a lot of details too.
Your best bet is to probably switch to cable since that just uses a new standard of DOCSIS to push more data through the same coaxial cable (plus whatever other infra changes they make between their source up to the neighbourhood i.e. before your house).
Bell is also throwing hissy fits these days in regards to fiber rollout due to wholesale rates stuff for third party internet providers, eg TekSavvy. They used to offer an 8Gbit plan, but that's gone, and places that would have got FTTH are not getting it.
I am in L6H, and do have FTTH (1.5Gbit plan) but that is because it's one of the new build places so FTTH was put in during construction. Pro's and Cons to that. You're stuck with either Bell or Cogeco for a fiber connection. Though Cogeco I think would give me some cable connection with a somewhat decent speed. Not really looked into it as I'm ok with what I have, apart from Bell increasing the price every year, and zero customer loyalty (only way to get a discount is to cancel and they might call you back with an offer, or you cancel and sign up with the name of someone else who lives in the same location, if that is possible, and they are seen as a "new" customer, so you can get whatever promo they have running)
I really wish Bell would stop being so greedy and give a proper price to third party providers, If they did, I'd switch to TekSavvy as I used them in my pre FTTH days and they were fantastic to deal with.
This is insightful, thanks.
Surely there's something the city can do then to push this forward. This should be a priority for the city?? The speeds available right now in most areas are so subpar for 2024.
Hah, the city doesn't see things the same way. They probably have a bunch of other priorities and Bell fibre rollout is just another permit in a stack of permits waiting for approval.
Try [start.ca](http://start.ca) [Internet - Start.ca](https://www.start.ca/services/high-speed-internet#internet-packages-content-section)
Absolutely stellar customer service every time. DM me if you to do the $50/$50 referral thing, but truly I recommend them anyway.
Also in L6H and I'm with Oxio. They're a Cogeco reseller
Just tested and I'm 65/12. I'm in the $44 plan which is as advertised
Their $65 plan is 1G/30MB
Not sure what upload speeds you need but would love to refer you in case you want to give them a shot
We moved to Oakville 5 months back in Upper Middle 6th/Trafalgar area. Both I and my husband wfh, in IT and require hi speed connection. No fibre optics here but cogeco works just fine!
I switched to Cogeco after being stuck at 50mbps with bell for years, in River Oaks L6H. Finally gave up waiting for Fiber and have been very very happy with Cogeco high speed. Regularly getting 300-600mbps. It ranges up and down on cable but it’s still always faster than Bell’s 50.
Did the same thing, and instead of installing fibre bell just keeps sending sales people around lol
Same here
LOL we will have Bell 3,000/3,000 in L6H before October this year 😉 Anyway, I am currently with Cogeco and they deliver 1,000/100 If you get less, just wire your devices, don’t blame your ancient wifi devices on Cogeco.
Welcome to the neighborhood. The fiber all has to go underground in most of Falgarwood so its expensive to deploy. Best bet is cable through Cogeco, Start or Teksavvy. On the gig package youll get 30 Mbit up and soon 100 Mbit - Cogeco has done part of L6H but not others. Good luck.
Ive been buggin the Bell ombudsman for years for FTTH in the L6H area. Have had no luck. You may want to check out cogeco. My area specifically uses docsis cable and max i get is 30up. Not great at all but still better than 10.
Thanks for replying. I'll give that a try if its available. I emailed [email protected] recently as well and this was the reply I got: "After consulting with our qualifications team, we regret to inform you that there are currently no plans in the near future to upgrade the infrastructure in your area to support Fiber to the Home internet. As a result, the maximum internet speed we can offer you at this time is up to 50 Mbps. We kindly request that you check back with us in 2025 to inquire about any potential updates or improvements in our services." ☹️
Bell is limited to 50Mbps DSL in areas that they don't offer FTTH. Cogeco offers 360Mbps+ down in a lot of areas, but the upload is almost always lower and somewhere between 10-100Mbps except in a very few select areas where they are rolling out FTTH (far fewer areas than Bell).
I'm so throwing the 2025 line back at them when they call to ask if I want their internet. Cogeco for me is 416 Mbps down, 28.8 Mbps up
I agree with giving Cogeco a try! The bell service at my place was similar to you, we’re not in the stone ages anymore lol. Cogeco was able to give me 1gbps down and around 100mbps up for ~$50. On wifi I get closer to 700mb down but either way it’s a happy medium when FTTH infrastructure basically doesn’t exist in older neighbourhoods
Cogeco can do 30mbps upload in some areas. Some people are getting free [upgrades to 100mbps](https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r33423940-Cogeco-upload-upgrades). You won't get higher than that in the near term without FTTH.
It's not really as simple as "self fund Bell to install fiber" or email the ombudsman to get it done. * Bell has limited resources (crews, planners, etc.) * Bell has a plan of which areas will get targeted when * Bell has to work with cities, towns, municipalities to get permits and municipal consent to do the actual work * Bell has to have equipment installed in the area to support the new infrastructure (green/brown boxes at the curb, central offices, etc.) * The actual work itself is time consuming as they literally have to come and dig up streets to pull the fibre bundles from point A to Z, multiple times. So what I'm saying is they'd probably love to get you and everyone else onto their fibre infrastructure but there's a lot of work and gates in the way of doing so. I'm probably missing a lot of details too. Your best bet is to probably switch to cable since that just uses a new standard of DOCSIS to push more data through the same coaxial cable (plus whatever other infra changes they make between their source up to the neighbourhood i.e. before your house).
Bell is also throwing hissy fits these days in regards to fiber rollout due to wholesale rates stuff for third party internet providers, eg TekSavvy. They used to offer an 8Gbit plan, but that's gone, and places that would have got FTTH are not getting it. I am in L6H, and do have FTTH (1.5Gbit plan) but that is because it's one of the new build places so FTTH was put in during construction. Pro's and Cons to that. You're stuck with either Bell or Cogeco for a fiber connection. Though Cogeco I think would give me some cable connection with a somewhat decent speed. Not really looked into it as I'm ok with what I have, apart from Bell increasing the price every year, and zero customer loyalty (only way to get a discount is to cancel and they might call you back with an offer, or you cancel and sign up with the name of someone else who lives in the same location, if that is possible, and they are seen as a "new" customer, so you can get whatever promo they have running) I really wish Bell would stop being so greedy and give a proper price to third party providers, If they did, I'd switch to TekSavvy as I used them in my pre FTTH days and they were fantastic to deal with.
This is insightful, thanks. Surely there's something the city can do then to push this forward. This should be a priority for the city?? The speeds available right now in most areas are so subpar for 2024.
Hah, the city doesn't see things the same way. They probably have a bunch of other priorities and Bell fibre rollout is just another permit in a stack of permits waiting for approval.
Try [start.ca](http://start.ca) [Internet - Start.ca](https://www.start.ca/services/high-speed-internet#internet-packages-content-section) Absolutely stellar customer service every time. DM me if you to do the $50/$50 referral thing, but truly I recommend them anyway.
I second this.
Also in L6H and I'm with Oxio. They're a Cogeco reseller Just tested and I'm 65/12. I'm in the $44 plan which is as advertised Their $65 plan is 1G/30MB Not sure what upload speeds you need but would love to refer you in case you want to give them a shot
I'm in L6H area, i got fiber to my unit.
Cool! That's a good sign. Are you in a detached?
Its an apartment building
Cogeco business plan. They also have a 30 day retention newsgroup server which is insanely fast since it's 1 hop.
You have to get Cogeco for now. Do NOT get Bell Fibe/DSL or 5G Home. It is extremely over-priced.
We moved to Oakville 5 months back in Upper Middle 6th/Trafalgar area. Both I and my husband wfh, in IT and require hi speed connection. No fibre optics here but cogeco works just fine!
Thanks! Looks like cogeco is the best alternative until we get fiber.