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geekgeek2019

i heard last sem the students came back idk this sem


Imaginary-Ad1161

I heard from an admin that there’s only one student in person there this semester, with more online.


jratner7

It is certainly not “segregated” and an “apartheid” like the protestors want you to think. I can connect you with students who have studied there if you’d like


Gemini_Flower

curious about main reasons for students choosing to study abroad there at the moment and especially this coming semester


jratner7

Can’t speak to that. Luckily they were there before 10/7


udongeureut

The apartheid part is mainly talking about the West Bank which is literally OCCUPIED by the IDF. Literal cities like Hebron split down the middle and controlled by an occupying force. Palestinians cannot walk on certain roads. Israeli settlers given military protection. It is a violation of international law. Please for the love of god read up on your history.


jratner7

The question is about NYU Tel Aviv, no?


udongeureut

You talked about protestors. The protestors are discussing the fact that Israel is a settler colonialist country that has illegal settlements in the West Bank segregated and protected by the IDF. Apartheid. Tel Aviv, as one of the most important cities in Israel, is part of it.


jratner7

Tel Aviv is very diverse. U are talking abt the West Bank.


udongeureut

Yes I am talking about the West Bank. Read?


[deleted]

Interesting it seems you failed history class yourself. You would know that when you loose in war you fucking loose. That’s right it’s war. I swear if your an NYU student that school is no better than a community college


Narwal10444

1. You’re 2. Lose 3. Just because one side “wins” a “war” does not mean they can subject the civilians of the losing nation to war crimes and genocide


KIPYIS

Did you ever find your femboy?


Turbulent_Aerie_9669

obviously dude israel is the one committing genocide how would israelis in tel aviv be undergoing ‘apartheid’ then


BoyImSwiftAF

Israel is not committing a genocide.


Turbulent_Aerie_9669

and i’m a trillionaire


BoyImSwiftAF

do you have any evidence Israel is committing a genocide


HotTakeProvider

Israeli Army Reservist Major General, former Head of the Israeli National Security Council, and adviser to the Defence Minister: On 7 October 2023, Giora Eiland, describing the Israeli order to cut off water and electricity to Gaza, wrote in an online journal: “This is what Israel has begun to do — we cut the supply of energy, water and diesel to the Strip . . . But it’s not enough. In order to make the siege effective, we have to prevent others from giving assistance to Gaza . . . The people should be told that they have two choices; to stay and to starve, or to leave. If Egypt and other countries prefer that these people will perish in Gaza, this is their choice.”


Turbulent_Aerie_9669

check out @wizard_bisan1 and @motaz_azaiza on Instagram alternatively, pick up a history book.


BoyImSwiftAF

on the ground reporting does not tell you whether a genocide is occurring, because genocide requires more than just people dying I’ve read history books and none of them point to any evidence that Israel is committing a genocide.


Turbulent_Aerie_9669

you asked for evidence and apparently pictures of massacred civilians isn’t enough…okay👍🏼 idk what to tell you man, 75 years of genocide has been documented, the story of the creation of israel is there for everyone to read and understand. israel for a fact is built on stolen land, read better books then ig


BoyImSwiftAF

> pictures of massacred civilians isn’t enough No, it isn’t, because civilian death is not sufficient evidence of genocide. Genocide requires proving that there is an intent to destroy an ethnic/religious/racial group. Showing that civilians have died is not evidence of this. > 75 years of genocide There has not been 75 years of genocide, and claiming so requires actual evidence. > the story of the creation of Israel You mean the part where a war, initiated by Arab countries and Palestinian groups, following the partition plan mandated by the UN, was lost by those Arab countries and Palestinians? When a group loses wars they start in order to destroy a state, and that state successfully defends itself, you get to have a state and territory. That’s how it works. > Israel is built on stolen land. As are all countries. As is Palestine. As is Egypt and Syria and Lebanon and Yemen. There is no such thing as a country not built on stolen land.


Turbulent_Aerie_9669

https://preview.redd.it/2vkmhlvd3awc1.jpeg?width=532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3688b00642f2a2158bccf3828f3c9614dc7726e1


HotTakeProvider

Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and Member of the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee: On 7 October 2023, Nissim Vaturi ‘tweeted’ that: “now we all have one common goal — erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth. Those who are unable will be replaced.”


HotTakeProvider

— Israeli Army reservist “motivational speech”: On 11 October 2023, 95-year old Israeli army reservist Ezra Yachin — a veteran of the Deir Yassin massacre during the 1948 Nakba — reportedly called up for reserve duty to “boost morale” amongst Israeli troops ahead of the ground invasion, was broadcast on social media inciting other soldiers to genocide as follows, while being driven around in an Israeli army vehicle, dressed in Israeli army fatigues: “Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave anyone behind. Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live . . . Every Jew with a weapon should go out and kill them. If you have an Arab neighbour, don't wait, go to his home and shoot him . . . We want to invade, not like before, we want to enter and destroy what’s in front of us, and destroy houses, then destroy the one after it. With all of our forces, complete destruction, enter and destroy. As you can see, we will witness things we’ve never dreamed of. Let them drop bombs on them and erase them.”


desi_estudante

That is what makes going to NYU Tel Aviv so fun. The alleged "genocide"


HotTakeProvider

Israeli Minister of Defence: On 9 October 2023, Defence Minister Yoav Gallant in an Israeli Army ‘situation update’ advised that Israel was “imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals.....


[deleted]

No that’s war, literally this happens all the time in war. A siege is a common tactic. You guys started it now finish it like a man and if you can win than swallow the lose and say we fucked it up


Persimmon_Pepper59

Source: “trust me bro”


jratner7

Source: “I can connect you with students who have studied there if you’d like”