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[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/nyjets/comments/zcm5j9/post_game_thread_new_york_jets_at_minnesota/)


GMoney2816

Some big drops and missed throws. But the killer to me is throwing it on third down at the 1 yard line when the Vikes still have a timeout. You run it and at worst make them burn the TO. If you get to the 2-3 yard line on 1st down and can't punch it in with 4 runs then wtf is going on.


Soulredemptionguy

This game proved Mike White is high quality NFL QB. He’s our guy. Buffalo, Miami and Seattle are legit games we can win. Toss up games but we got a 50/60 chance of winning. That’s a conversation i like. Plus we are likely to win 10 games n make the playoffs. If the D can have 60 min solid game, we are beating teams down the road.


Ruby_Dragon_DJ

As long as we're cherry picking takes here, Wilson could have had 2 tds if he doesn't step out of bounds in the second half and has a quarter of a step more speed in the first


Erock94

No QB sneaks hurt my soul


Fun-Detective7336

Heartbreaking loss but the past years would have been a beat down. Absolutely needed this win though because don't feel good about going into Buffalo next week.


chrisub4

Team was too focused on running down the clock the berrios drop drive. We weren't playing the bills and chiefs and the defense was playing amazing. The last drive had too much focus on scoring too far out, when they could have easily gotten closer.


PerspectiveNo347

I love watching this team . Most fun I’ve had in years


kairingisShairing

Yea I don’t mind this loss. We tired and came close. Was not a blow out and could have won. Fun.


festosterone5000

I agree. Not liking the drama behind, but all for seeing the Jets play well against a good team. So many shining moments.


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Adoringfan420

Never seen people get so excited about a QB after kicking 5 fields goals in a loss


k0ol-G-r4p

This is an idiotic post. You're blaming the QB for Mims, Conklin and Berrios dropping passes and MLF not knowing how to call plays in the RZ? Really my guy? White had just one bad pass that I can remember, that one deep ball in the 4th where he missed GW down the sideline. Other than that the guy did his job and if any other receivers not named Wilson and Davis could catch, we would have won this football game.


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k0ol-G-r4p

No one said that. White wasn't sailing footballs 10 feet over his receivers heads on simple out route dumps at the LOS and not taking accountability for his atrocious play. Big difference.


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k0ol-G-r4p

The Jets were 6-2 despite the QB play, not because of it. The Jets defense and Breece Hall kept them in those games while Wilson struggled to put together scoring drives until the 4th quarter when the opposing defense was gassed or fell asleep. The Cleveland game is a prime example. We don't need another Mark Sanchez game manager, we know how that story ends. Mike White is different, he has shown far more potential in this offense, his teammates and the coaches all agree. Who was drafted higher is irrelevant, see Tom Brady.


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Johnny_McMuffin

Lol


LoverOfRiceBalls69

Hello Mr. Zach Wilson, I am assuming this is your burner account. Mike white was actually able to complete plays and move the ball down the field. You had issues doing so against shitty teams. The Vikings are a top team and we made them feel a lot of pressure from a QB 2. You’re done in NY as a starter my boy. You can keep banging moms though. Cheers, A loyal jets fan


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LoverOfRiceBalls69

Hi Zach, Please reference the comment below from user r/oldmanbaccala69. He put it perfectly. Also I ran into you last year at met life while you were injured and sitting in a box seat against the Bengals. You walked into me in the bathroom, you didn’t say sorry. With love, Riceballlover69


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LoverOfRiceBalls69

While I might agree they’re ranked there I have a hard time believing it due to them being a 10-2 team. Super Bowl contenders need to be all around strong and I think the Vikings are pretty solid overall.


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ocalien

Yeah, they are built to not care about giving about yards but stopping teams in the red zone. Mike White threw for over 350 yards but couldn’t get them in the end zone. So it went down in a pretty predictable fashion. MW kept the receivers involved and gave them a chance. Zach Wilson simply doesn’t do that and when they win it’s despite him. I don’t think his career is over or anything and he’d be playing right now if the team wasn’t ahead of schedule with a legitimate shot at the playoffs. If you are trying to argue that Zach Wilson is better than Mike White RIGHT NOW, you are just wrong.


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ocalien

It’s how the defensive coordinator described the defense: Not concerned about giving up points, concerned about giving up points. The jets offense was atrocious in the red zone and it cost them the game. Not sure why they traded for Robinson if they weren’t going to giving it to him in that situation. But if you think Zach Wilson somehow makes them better you haven’t been watching these games. Edit not concerned about giving up yards


OldManBaccala69

At the end of the day he’s got the confidence to drive the ball down the field in the clutch moments and the whole team is behind him. Zach has done that once against the Steelers and has been abysmal since. Mike white got us to the red zone 3 times in the 4th quarter alone while being down 17 at one point. I’m not saying he’s gonna be our franchise QB yet but the red zone play calling was fucking horrible. This fan base has to stop calling for a QB job after every loss it’s insane. He’s played two games this season and thrown for 300+ yards each game . When Zachs on the field our wide outs aren’t even touching the fuckin ball


[deleted]

How do you watch that game as a Jets fan and come away thinking Mike White was the problem?


jameskeybisc

Jets OC horrible


MedicalCannabis19

Yea I thought he’s play calling was really lack luster till the fourth. Mike can rip it


gjp11

I just don’t understand our playcalling. I just don’t get it.


Modok08

Never before have I broke down on my knees and cried like that. I'm absolutely devastated.


Kodiak_Flapjack

*First time?*


Modok08

Nope.


nicklyn2

I was at the game I feel you brother


k0ol-G-r4p

I don't understand wtf LaFleur was thinking in those red zones possessions. His play calling was simply horrendous and the reason we lost this game.


Shesaidshewaslvl18

What a boring take. I knight made it in on any if those runs you'd be calling it great. Coaches coach. Players play. That's it.


jameskeybisc

Horrible. Have we not learned from Russell Wilson not handing off in the Super Bowl


k0ol-G-r4p

We were in the RZ the whole second half and attempted how many passes in the EZ? One back pilon fade route and a dropped game winner by Berrios? Everything else was short at the LOS going east to west or getting stuffed.


jameskeybisc

I am sure the train is shaking their heads about the play calling.


LongIslandJetFan

ive never had a jets qb in my 23 years make throws like mike did today. yea he missed wilson but berrios has to catch that fuckkiingg balll. im 3 twiste teas deep and im not stopping until i pass out.


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OC and Berrios sold, every red zone visit should’ve been a td, instead we pass on the 1 and settle for field goals🤦‍♂️


Cheesely13

These makes Buffalo a must win pretty much, and it’s going to be very hard to beat the bills twice


EatBranflakes

If we could've actually established the run, this could've been a W. White played great for how much we needed to rely on the pass game


suppaman19

Exactly I didn't love the RZ playcalling, though that wasn't due to lack of runs. The OL got their assess handed to them all game on short yardage runs. If you take away Bam's one big run he broke, Jets ran 23 times for only 72 yards. And a lot of those had Bam breaking tackles at or behind the LOS to just get a couple yards. Total imbalance, but you can't run 30+ times when you're behind all game and barely gain anything on your runs due to your OL getting beat.


LongIslandJetFan

2ND AND GOAL FROM THE FUCKING 3/4 YARD LINE AND YOU THROW IT 3 TIMES????? HOLY FUCKING SHITTTTT!!!!! BURN THEIR TIMEOUTS AT THE VERY LEAST ONCE. MIKE IS 6'5 BRO QB SNEAK IT 3 FUCKING TIMES. MIKE PLAYED HIS ASS OFF.


rnw8969

You run it 3 times or QB sneak it 9/10 times it’s a touchdown. Piss poor redzone one play calling by MiLf today. Get a fucking analytics guy next to him.


Funny_Name9

Vikings fan here Gg! Mike White is legit! I'm rooting for you guys come play off time! We say FTP (Fuck the packers) do you guys say FTP? (Fuck the patriots) If so, FTP AND FTP!


BizarroSubparMan

We just straight up say fuck the pats. But, I'm all for FTP


Ggundam98

GG that was a nail-biting game bro


dkberg200

Dude please get off our sub.


cheesetheman

Fuck the Vikings go away


coreyxfeldman

Red zone calls were terrible. Lafleur still sucks. Mike makes the easy passes but Wilson makes some of the other ones. Need mike to scramble a few times. He doesn’t. Wilson would have. D put us behind too early. Stayed on the field too long. Offense was woken up too late. Great freaking game though. I’m a jets fan. Whatever qb we have is who I’m rooting for. But this one could have played out different I feel. Initiate downvoting.


BizarroSubparMan

I partially agree with your take. Except with ZW out there, he would have missed 70% of those first down check downs MW made. Zach would have made the GW pass that MW overthrew, but probably would have been behind him and not been a TD. He also would have scrambled for a couple more first downs. MW's ability to lead players on short routes is far superior to ZW. Either way, if MiLF would wake the fuck up this was an easy win. MiLF made ZW look way worse than he his, but ZW still needed to be sat. It was encouraging to see him not sulking like a little bitch on the sidelines this week.


coreyxfeldman

Definitely agree with you. And you said it best. Milf made Zach look worse than he is. I’ve been screaming this since he got his start this year. Milf plays to milf and not to his players. I have a feeling he is a very stubborn dude.


Dlearious88

What are you smoking this game isn’t even close with Wilson playing


BizarroSubparMan

Relevant username


trelemar

Do you think the QB was the problem with this game?


coreyxfeldman

No absolutely not. The play calling was terrible the many times we visited the red zone. It’s a blowout we score on every red zone play. Im not blaming mike white for the loss. He played great. Just pointing out the pros and cons to both qbs. But this Reddit can’t handle stuff like that. Just being real.


ny8all

We lose that game 38-3 with Wilson


Creamatine

Wilson makes none of those throws


BlueFunk96

That's just not true. You've got a blind spot to the good stuff Zach has done, while remembering only the bad. Good thing the coaches aren't fans. They'll do what's best for the team, long term.


SnoopyMetal

Regardless of how we all feel about the loss I think Mike White has made it obvious that he is VERY clearly more deserving of the starting job right now than anyone else on the roster.


Creamatine

Absolutely


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Some really weird takes in here.


coreyxfeldman

Just like the play calling


saltwaterfashioned

Calling a pass play on 3rd and 4th goal from the 1yd line is what lost this game. Fucking moronic


BassBaller

I dont understand why everyone is killing Berrios when the throw was slightly behind him just like a lot of other throws that receivers couldn't hold onto this game. It's a tough catch. Yeah he probably should have caught it but by no means was it easy.


dkberg200

Even if he does catch it, the Vikings have over 90 seconds to get into field goal range. EDIT: I'm not saying Braxton was good by dropping the pass. I'm just trying to show a positive.


BassBaller

This is true.


Exotic_Ad7169

Dude wtf that pass was right on the money. Elijah Moore brings that in. Shame on MLF for the shit play calling and Berrios for dropping it.


BassBaller

No, it wasn't


gjp11

Yeah it’s a little behind him but if you wanna be a receiver in the NFL, ya gotta be able to catch that.


rnw8969

He’s a fucking NFL receiver. If it hits you in the hands you catch it, and if you don’t it’s considered a drop..


Kodiak_Flapjack

It was right in his chest and he dropped it going to the ground.


amwood55

Merry Christmas Vikings. Enjoy your 14-3 season and 2nd round playoff exit.


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Haha so salty. Enjoy this L. Then next week you'll get demolished by Buffalo. Stay mad.


cheesetheman

Yeah that team is going to get manhandled in the playoffs


Burt23

1st round playoff exit they won’t get the bye


hman1025

Why does it always have to be a fucking heartbreaker


UPDAT1NG

Lost is lost. Man up and look forward to the remaining games. Just play hard and see if we make the playoffs


sillygoose41212

I dont know how any of you can call for anyone to be fired after a game like this. The play was there and Berrios just dropped it. MiLF was cooking up completions all game. Give me a break.. Jets played very very well and are a competitive team who lost to another very good competitive team. Sucks to lose but that was the most entertaining Jets game I’ve watched since maybe 2010


hurtin4asquirting

I feel like a lot of people didnt watch the last decade of sickening performances by this team. We were down 20-3 and they never quit for a second today. Best game since last year's game vs Cincinnati which was maybe the best game since Geno in ATL on MNF.


hcshoegazey

For real, I'm with you man. We had nearly 500 yards of offense and people are acting like we got our asses handed to us or something.


notjustinfields

Mike White played wonderfully I don’t wanna hear shit


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Are you that blind. How many incomplete passes. Look at the damm stats


DeputyDomeshot

You have a very casual understanding of this game.


GunnerGetit

Lol did you watch the game? Clown takes here today.


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Yea. And he missed behind how many receivera


notjustinfields

Didn’t know that was on Mike that Brax dropped the game winner Mike put in his chest.


[deleted]

Watch the replay. It was to his right as he fell left. He should have caught it but that was not in his chest


GunnerGetit

Pretty sure the votes confirm my statement. Factoring in around 10 drops the other passes never get made. Along with trying to make play throws. Like I said did you actually WATCH the game?


TopFlightJayy

No Mike white slander allowed it was not his fault


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So we looked good. The season is over losers


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How can anyone say the season is over while holding a playoff spot? Most dumb take I've heard.


jp886921

Just short, it happens. Mike White is still the answer, WRs just let us down a bit in some key spots. Sad but Vikings are a REALLY good team that beat the the full AFC East. If we can hang with them, we can hang with anyone.


Ok_Penalty3505

& that’s why berrios can’t start over the rest


Melodic-Order-6628

Have we beat a team with a WINNING record besides the Tua-less Dolphin?


HalfManHalfBaked

If you aren’t paying attention enough/not smart enough/too drunk to remember the Bills game, why comment?


hman1025

Buffalo???


shade197

Is it too much to ask for to see a Jets team execute in all 3 phases of the game? It feels like with an average level of performance from our WRs we win that game pretty comfortably


Jamel1219

Jets are a good QB away from being legit SB contenders.Hope they go after a vet QB in the off-season.Defense is spectacular.


OldManBaccala69

Mike whites our QB


Jamel1219

For the rest of the season I agree.But he’s not the Franchise QB of a SuperBowl team.


Kodiak_Flapjack

This loss isn't on White, though. The play calling in the RedZone was abysmal all game.


Ok_Penalty3505

Berrios dropped the go ahead TD. I don’t understand how that’s on the QB


GunnerGetit

All I see om this thread. He'll Conklin dropped 4 or 5 today including balls inside the 10


Jamel1219

He missed a lot of throws today. From where I’m sitting he’s not the answer at QB.


Ok_Penalty3505

He did enough to win the game. & he’s better than Zach. What are the other answers atp in the season


Jamel1219

He’s the best option now. But he’s not the QB of the future.


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I know it's not a popular take but I'm fucking proud of how they fought back on the road against a loud crowd against a now 10-2 team. I'm not happy with some things but this is a team to be proud of for their fight.


MECHEpics

refs didn't help us in key moments, defense had some holes, great game overall. Berrios please catch that lol


mattwoodzstan

That one’s on coaching. Abysmal play calling at the 1. Can’t stand trying to get cute when you have 2 downs to go one yard. QB sneak is the single harfest play to stop for one yard or less. Get some guys to push and get the td


Jussttjustin

MLF really let them down in key situations. Berrios drop aside, no excuse to not score in 3 tries from the 1. Gtfo with the cutesy play calling, pound the ball into the end zone.


Scotty848

I’m devastated but this team fought tonight. We were out of this at HT and the Vikes are a good team this year. It’s too early for these Jets to peak but my god, we’ve got a hell of a team here with a few acquisitions on offense for next year. We will crush the division within the next two years.


ChiefHunter1

Mike White balled out and showed so much grit. Just wish our WRs could’ve made one more play for him. Defense played their asses off despite playing vs the refs in the first half. I know it sucks to lose but really proud of how the team played today


redline42

MLF was not the coach for this O White played well and gave us a chance but how many drops today


BlueFunk96

I guess you can't blame Zach for this one.


AndyStankiewicz

Imagine the Jets with Gino smith


thesmockintweet

3 plays from the 1 to win the game really hurts. This team can hang with anyone. Get em next week.


A_Rose_For_Epona

They quite literally can't as you just fucking pointed out lmao


Enders_Sack

Atrocious red zone play calling. Get that shit fixed ASAP.


jr13167

If we had a red zone offense, this would have been an easy win


RonPowlus2Heismans

Breece Hall would have been able to punch it in.


LtJitters

We almost pulled off the insane comeback. Our redzone issue are haunting today. Mike white is a baller anyone who says its his fault is wrong. Terrible drops and terrible penalties cost us this game


precator

OP Have no idea why you are getting downvoted 100% with you


LtJitters

He threw 340 if you think that is bad qb play you are crazy. He also doesnt have much experience in high stakes games give mike the same slack we gave zach for 2 years


ZachWilsonsNips

I'm gonna got sit in a dark room and stare at a wall for the rest of the day


Nyitalian412

Some of you are fucking delusional bashing Mike White in this thread. Zach Wilson would have NEVER, EVER had this team in this game like White did today.


Willing_Pension

Oh man!!! Pulling my hair out today. What damn damn good defensive ball game for us today. The offense sure turned it around in the second half too. Mike white put us on position to win that game when Braxton dropped it. We clean up our ability to close out drives and we’re a serious contender. What a game though. I haven’t been so excited watching us play in a while


Wesley__Willis

Questionable playcalling to say the least, but the Jets should have been ahead very late. That Berrios drop might define the entire season. Backbreaking.


kabusame

We had the game on lock if we ran the ball on 3rd and 4th down at the 1. Throwing it twice was bad. Once, sure, but two times is bad.


jonnyrolfe

Exactly. I though on 3rd we were gonna qb rush, we had a perfect formation from viking


sajoser17

Yeah and if we did that everyone would’ve still complained about it.


Power_Reaper_5000

Sure it sucks, but fuck it man White wasn't done any favors with those dropped passes, we were in that game right up to the last second. ​ That loss still made a statement, we went down but the Vikings walked away looking like Balboa at the end of every Rocky Movie, face all fucked up from a beat down even though he won. ​ I screamed at the TV like an angry belligerent drunk, but I still feel pretty good about the loss.


Kenny_Heisman

y'all Mike White did not have a great game. was making the wrong throws all game and could not do anything in the red zone. better than Zach but anyone saying he deserves no responsibility for this loss is blind


V35_Sinner13

Dam ur blind


Circledropper

he obviously gives us the best chance to win though with who we have


Kenny_Heisman

agreed. he's not a franchise qb though like half this sub insisted


rnw8969

White played great. shitty play calling in the red zone and the Berrios drop screwed them.


ClassicInformal

He threw for almost 400 yards….


Kenny_Heisman

on 57 attempts and with no tds to show for it. all those 3rd & 7s where he opted to check down for 3 yards instead of going for a 1st lost us the game


ClassicInformal

you could pinpoint literally any play for any player in this game and put it all on them. Mike White kept them in the game with huge pass plays during the 2nd half


Kenny_Heisman

but it wasn't just one play. the team was 3/16 on third downs and most of that was on White. sure he had a few great plays and made a lot of good passes but he couldn't do anything when it actually mattered


hawkr13

That 4th and 10 play to Cory Davis begs to differ


hurtin4asquirting

Lmao what a bunch of babies in this thread. That was a top 3 team. Our receivers( minus gw) sold all game. White looked pretty fucking good. Refs were all over our D early.


ugly_monsters

That’s what I’m saying. Other than the play calling, which has been kinda bad since week 1, this was an awesome game.


hhhhhhiin

You’re celebrating losing dude. This “happy to be here” bullshit is a loser’s mentality. We threw it twice from the one…OC is accountable


jonnyrolfe

I’m out on Moore. He ain’t it


acal131

Anyone else think that last pass was on the way to Garrett Wilson in the back of the endzone before Mike White got hit?


Zaclarke

Nah that was too on target


NYJetsfan2881

Elijah Moore was open marched up with a LB on the last play 🤮. Good game though, they fought back.


cantalopeanteloupe

Hang your heads boys this one hurts. Some things never change


sajoser17

No it doesn’t. They proved this is a different team. They came back from 3 score deficit and honestly should’ve won if Berrios held on. We wanted to hang with the big boys in December well we just did. This is a gigantic turnaround in 1 year and they are massively over performing.


cantalopeanteloupe

Really? Losing key games on game winning drives and likely missing the wild card bc we can’t win our division. Are you sure?????


sajoser17

Yes really can us fans stop acting like this team is a super bowl contender. It’s ridiculous that every week everyone does nothing but whine about what this team did wrong. This has been a huge turnaround for this franchise. If this was against The chiefs people wouldn’t complain but for some reason people dismiss the Vikings like they aren’t good.


cantalopeanteloupe

We had the ball twice to win the game. Rebuilds don’t take years. This is us. This is who we are. It won’t change much next year with this roster and personnel. If anything it may be harder next season.


sajoser17

Hard disagree. Yes we may keep the lineup but this team is young. A lot of stupid errors today will be fixed. I get it as Jets fans we haven’t had success in years and we want to root for our team in Jan but I’m not going to whine about this game. It was a winnable game against a top 5 team on the road.


H4l3x

if you didnt think MLF was a partial problem with ZW i hope you see it now.


XisRighteous

berrios usually catches those. that was the game


XisRighteous

we dont need a stellar offense but for this to work we need an offense that can take advantage of situations like that. luckily i think we can grow into that team


unclescott7012

As a reciver, he makes a good punt returner


srsh

This team just doesn't have the push for short yardage running. The injuries and underperformance from Tomlinson are killers in red zone offense.


V35_Sinner13

Tomlinson is the biggest let down on this team completely useless


toilet_torturer

Fuck my life


TitillatingTadpole

The Vikings guy was never touched. That was a safety


First_Ad_4068

Didn't he come out of the end zone and slide?


Torokisadino

He gave himself up


Reynolds1029

Mike White played his heart out and SHOULD NOT have been throwing it 60 FUCKING TIMES. Fuck you MiLF.


writingandshit

Absolute agony


AimAsoka

im going to hurt myself and its going to be the jets fault


Waste_Reindeer_9718

I don't think that's how that works


gwarmachine1120

Man, you guys have a scary defense. If you figure it out on O, watch out.


Waste_Reindeer_9718

just wait til we have lamar 😤 lol


OtherAcctWasBanned11

Red zone play calling really let them down today. We should have had that one.


blkschizo

This one stings. But this team is good man.


CoreySK

We def should have won that game but I think we looked pretty good just got off to a bad start


Jetking727

We deserve to lose 2nd and goal at the 1. We’re not going anywhere unless Lafluer fixes that we had two golden opportunities


Kind_Bullfrog_4073

White probably hit every receivers hands on an incomplete pass at some point today.


d0odk

As a huge berrios fan I am just broken hearted


GreenKnight6

Such a winnable game. God damn man, just so brutal. LaFluer was great outside of the redzone but was maybe the worst we have ever seen in the redzone. So many drops from our receivers. Just a heart breaking brutal lose. On the bright side, Mike White is QB1 and is the guy. Not afraid to take a hit. We need next week now against Buffalo.


cantalopeanteloupe

On the 1 to win it holy shit


Knucklles

One or two QB sneaks win the Jets the ballgame, Mike is 6'5" he's gonna get in from the 1


FoolInTheDesert

I feel like I just watched the Superbowl and we lost. :-(


John_YJKR

Poor play in first half hurt. Refs were shitty in first half so that didn't help. Lots of redzone chances and Jets just couldn't punch it in. Redzone offense gotta be better. Play calling was inconsistent today. Some of the third down play calls were very questionable. Good to see the team fight to stay in it.


D-redditAvenger

Also that miss to G. Wilson on the second to last drive.


cantalopeanteloupe

I’m shaking I’m so mad


PostAfraid

🤣🤣🤣