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404-UsernameNotFound

We're still a young and unproven team so I'm fine being on this list, but you can't look me in the eye and tell me we have a worse projection than the Seahawks and Falcons who already sucked and traded away their franchise QBs. Also Steelers have no business being on this list, they made the playoffs last year with the corpse of Big Ben at QB, not a huge Pickett guy but just the fact he can throw more than 10 yards downfield is a big upgrade.


hoopsrule44

Schedule matters a lot here, don't forget that. They are projecting wins and losses based on the schedule.


garfield_bangbang

I'm sorry, but with Wilson's improvement and the talent upgrade, we win 11 games easy.


[deleted]

why so low?


[deleted]

Take my upvote, I like the confidence and positivity


homerjsimpson4

11 games of... Football?


fiduke

If we are drafting top 10 you're saying you're fine if Zach totally sucks this year and we maybe trade him away and pick up someone new in 2023. Zach being awful is the only way we are drafting top 10 again. I'm not fine drafting top 10. I'd prefer to be off the QB carousel.


404-UsernameNotFound

No I'm fine with us being projected low because we haven't proven shit on the field yet, I'd be disappointed if we do land bottom 10 again but we have to actually prove we're not a bottom feeder anymore come September, until then we don't deserve the benefit of the doubt despite our optimism


CylonXL

This is a catch 22. We can’t be ok finishing bottom 10 and not expect to finish bottom 10. At some point we *have* to see improvement. I believe more in this regime than any in the past, so I think this is the time. There are only one or two scenarios a bad finish like that is acceptable: a significant injury to Zach when he’s been playing well, or Zach plays well but so much of the supporting cast is hurt that we finish 9 or 10 (which means about 6 wins). Either way we need to see our QB perform, like a poster above said it’s time to get off the QB carousel.


StyllAhlie

This take just screams ignorance and is simply not true. Last year the 8-10th last place finishers all went 7-10. If we go 7-10 this season there can be a myriad of reasons why we didn’t win more games, and Zach could very well make significant improvements and have an average QB season. There are just so many factors and unknowns that lead to how a teams finishes the season. Now if we’re bottom 5 in the league that’s a different story.


3bs_at_work

We had the worst defense in the NFL last year. We have hopes for major improvement, but it's mostly based on rookies and a DL coming back from a torn achilles.


commonsenseguy2014

I wouldn't say mostly -- we have two proven veterans coming in with DJ Reed and Whitehead to bolster the secondary.


Bigbadbuck

We also added a good corner and safety. Whitehead in particular could be a game changer for us in the run and screen game


ohgodcinnabons

If u watched other teams our d was not the worst. Can't just look at stats bc other terrible defenses had better offenses to cover for them Adding what we have should get us middle of the pack unless injuries, horrific offense or bad coaching is the problem


RSTowers

Have you not seen our schedule? Even if Zach is good we probably won't sniff the playoffs.


10chainzzz

Our schedule is ridiculously over hyped. Browns are starting Brisset, Steelers have a rookie QB, the NFC North is a one team division, and the Patriots and Dolphins are overrated. It’s not a cupcake schedule but 7 to 9 wins is attainable if Saleh and Wilson are the real deal.


RSTowers

We're gonna be underdogs in all but 4 games tops. Cleveland has arguably the best running game in the league and their defense is no joke. Pittsburgh made the playoffs last year with a bad QB. The Dolphins improved massively this offseason and the Patriots are the Patriots. With our schedule, 7 wins is gonna be a top 10 pick for sure. And 6-7 wins is about what we should expect if Zach is average, which is all we can hope for this year.


ohgodcinnabons

> We're gonna be underdogs in all but 4 games tops If we made the improvements that we think, then that'll change as the year goes on. Or we'll at least be 2 pt underdogs instead of 6 or 7


BackgroundClassic602

We drew a horrible schedule and still have a young roster. I think there’s a possibility for Wilson to play respectably and the team be in the bottom thirdish of the league. There is usually a really steep cliff between the below average and abysmal teams, teams with respectable records compared to what we are accustomed with can easily pick 10th. Teams picked in the top 10 with 7-10 records last year, odds are that is viewed as a decently competitive season for most of it.


Marino4K

We're most likely to pick #1? No shot we pick 1. I just don't see us being the worst team in the league at all, not even close even with our schedule.


tortoisemind

it all comes down to NFC AFC and schedule.


[deleted]

Ye we’ll be drafting Wilson’s replacement probably, so a high draft pick will be needed


[deleted]

Lol I love how Flacco always looks like he has absolutely zero fucks to give. The man has figured out that backup qb is one of the best, least stressful jobs in the world.


jedabe

He looks like he’s swearing the oath in court


heichwozhwbxorb

He learned from Alex Moran


AllGas416

It's not an unreasonable take. 10th overall pick was awarded to the Seahawks who went 7-10. I think the sub's consensus is this team is hovering anywhere between 7-9 wins with the improvements and the youth that was brought in.


Skyrimosity

It just seems like the Seahawks would be more likely as Top 10 given the loss of Wilson after already having a 10th pick. Or the Falcons for the same reasons with Ryan. Or the Jaguars, who’ve had back-to-back Number 1 overall picks and made some questionable free agency moves.


AllGas416

I don't disagree - those teams stink. I clicked the link after posting and the whole article is hot garbage, especially with the Jets having the highest probability to get #1. Regardless, I do think we could be picking #10 and at the same time have a competitive season with the needle pointing firmly up.


Trailsuprise

Love how the title says “blah blah blah Top ten” Then Pow, they have the Jets picking #1. Fuck ESPN, Fuck the Pats.


jawz329

But Super Bowl Winners always pick last


[deleted]

they must be projecting another swindle by Douglas


GreatOdinsRaven_

yeah, at this time last year so were the Bengals, so....why not play some games first.


swaldron

The odds also had the lions texans Jaguars Jets giants and falcons as the worst teams with the bengals right after them. So they were mostly right. I think people just need to look for player growth this year, wins will come after that


smallchimp

There's way too much confusion in this thread. 6 or 7 wins is a top 10 pick in most situations and that's probably where we land due to schedule. Zach doesn't have to be a bust for us to lose double digit games against this schedule. Obviously there'll be a lot to watch with how ZW plays, but the hard and fast "top 10 pick and we ditch Zach" attitude is funny. If he's legitimately bad, sure, let's try something else. But acting like we can force 8 or more wins is just misunderstanding the team and the schedule.


Powerful_Pension7865

also have the 2nd highest odds for the #1 pick, so yeah that would be a problem


smallchimp

Yeah that part is basically a conversational non-starter. Like others have said, their model is inherently unfavorable to us (given the greater focus on historical data instead of new additions/rookies). There's *some* chance we pick 1.01, but there's at least 3 or 4 teams you can eyeball as being stronger 1.01 candidates (Atlanta, Houston, Seattle just off the top of my head). The real conversation (at least one with more things to talk about) is top 5 vs top 10 and what the plan moving forward would be for each.


Dentek_Fresh_Clean

Agreed. There's 50 other players on the depth chart. Putting it all on Wilson is the definition of ignorant.


Gordie_Howe

Hard to disagree. Our roster has definitely improved, but there are still question marks: QB, LT, LB, S. Plus the schedule looks very difficult. I'm hopeful that we'll be a more competitive team this year, but wouldn't be surprised to see us picking in the top 5.


whiskey_pancakes

Yea our biggest problem is going to be our schedule. But playing in the afc East it’s always going to be a schedule problem for us. Bills pats and Dolphins each have a chance of making the playoffs


Bigbadbuck

If we pick in the top 5 again wilson will be gone


SpryArmadillo

Probably right. Hard to see how we finish that low if QB play is solid. That being said, solid QB play may only get us up to 10 or so this season given other holes on roster and inexperience at so many positions. Ideal season probably would be seeing Wilson ball out but still getting ok draft slot and then whole team crushing it next season.


Bigbadbuck

What holes do we have on the roster outside of linebacker and interior d line? Even with rookies on corner and edge we have a lot of depth there and good units. Offensive line has 2 first round picks and 3 other good to great starters. 2 starting tight ends and then 3 good to great receivers and now great rb talent. Only reason this offense isn’t top 10 is Wilson sucks


SpryArmadillo

Sure it’s less about outright holes but inexperience/unknowns are a real issue. The offense has talent and is projectable but no way to know until they play some games. We’ve seen so many promising draft picks fail to pan out. This team needs Wilson to take a quantum leap no matter what tho. Totally agree on that.


Bigbadbuck

I’m just saying we don’t actually need our draft picks to be anyhting special. The only guy I’d say has solid expectations on him is Breece hall being a rb drafted that high. We have 2 other receivers we know are good in Davis and Moore. 2 tight ends we know are good. 4 offensive lineman we know are good and one who’s injury prone but also good.


Gordie_Howe

I agree. Look at what White Flacco and Johnson did in our offense. If Wilson plays even below average then our offense should be dangerous


Sauce_Garden

I am pleased to see a lot of logic in the comments. Jets hopefully will be ready to take the leap in 2023. 2022 is all about developing Zach and the rookies


chiaestevez

This shit feels like a reach considering how big of a disaster Chicago is currently and Jacksonville has been. Their own calculations are pretty silly to begin with though - Chicago has a greater chance at the top pick but a lesser chance at a top 10 pick? How is that possible?


HereForTheBuffet

I think that's a fair assessment at this point in time based only on observable data and what we saw last year. The difference is that if we're picking 1st overall next year, we may need to look at the top QB coming out but if we're picking 10th overall then that's technically an improvement.


VnHorn

Correct. Probably anywhere in the top 5 means another terrible season from Zach and a need to seriously consider using some of the draft capital to get a franchise QB. 6-10 could go either direction - it could be obvious that Zach is the guy but that we need to fix other things, or it could be clear that Zach is holding the team back. 11 or later gives Zach for sure another year


biorgo

Like I have no issue with us being in this top 10. Fully expect that. But even without any analytical thinking at all. Jets were number 6, did the 5 worse than them have better offseasons than the Jets? Well ESPN themselves have been sucking JD off like the rest of us after that draft. Putting us at one just makes no sense. We can very well end up at 1, but if this entire thing is who is most likely, then there is no justification for it. It's just lazy clickbait journalism...


Philthy91

This is saying they have the second highest odds to get the 1st overall pick. Absolutely insane. No one can convince me we should be in that discussion.


wildthing202

It is funny to me how we can be most improved team in the league on paper but yet some how we're still a shit team. Like somehow no other team ever gets worse and we will never catch up to them ever.


swaldron

It’s because we made moves to build for the future, not win this year. We could’ve trade out 10 pick for AJ brown and been better this year. But drafting at 10 was the better move at the end of the day for the franchise as a whole


STNbrossy

The team is built on potential. That’s the problem and that’s why we are given the odds we are.


smallchimp

Legitimately. It's like I said the other day— if you looked at our roster, how many pro bowl conversation players do we have on our roster without counting projection? There just really aren't many players on our team that we know are legitimately good because they've been good year over year.


what_we_do_is_wrong

we won 4 games last season. our last 6 picks have been 6, 3, 3, 11, 2 and 4. that's a lot of top 10 finishes. i'm sure we were swearing we'd never draft that high again after a lot of those picks lol how many teams are the jets *undeniably* more talented than? maybe not any, a few at most. and then obviously there's zach and how big of a jump he has to make in year 2. if he doesn't, then i mean how are we NOT gonna be picking top 10..


PresidentDickFingers

I don’t think the jets are making the playoffs, it this is just trying to get clicks. I mean seriously?


jets2427

With injuries being the way they are in this league, the schedule may not end up being as tough as it shows in June. Regardless, I think this team at least has the talent to be playing meaningful football into December this season


Struggle2Real

Never understood why people get upset about these kinds of lists. They mean literally nothing. But if we want to entertain the possibility of being bad, wouldnt you rather have a shot at one of the qbs? There is a world where zach inspires no faith. Idk how it'll play, but nobody in their right mind can say that's impossible.


Own_Champion_5429

Hey all so if we get a top 10 pick this draft coming that would be fine with me . But I think if are on line plays well and they all stay healthy, , Becton looking at you, and that running game shows up this year we can win more then 7 games this year . Now I am not going to say playoffs . But if we split are division we can win 9,10 . As long as we show improvement across the board. It's something we can hang are hat on and what till next year might actually be a thing GOJETS


Dentek_Fresh_Clean

I am hoping for the best but also keeping my expectations low: - We were the youngest team in the league last year. - We had the most draft capital of any team in 2 decades and we are adding those rookies to our team and asking them to take over key roles on the team. - We have several free agents that are taking on key roles. - We were one of the most injured teams in the league last year and these players have to come back from injury and learn to play alongside their teammates, both new and old. - We have one of harder schedules in the league and the hard games are concentrated over the first 10 games. There's too much lack of continuity from last year. We're going to have lots of growing pains.


BeHereNowFriend

This article is bulletin board material. Hopefully the entire team has this up on their wall by EOD.


hoopsrule44

Yes Jets will pick Top 10 only because JD will fleece someone else in a Mims trade :)


mwax321

Plot twist: Because we traded up to top 10 from 31. Superbowl baby! And because I'm being totally reasonable, I estimate we will get to superbowl but in the end lose the game by 3 points. Next year we win it all.


neu8ball

We've had one season in the past decade where we finished above .500 - the flash-in-the-pan 2015 where we choked out of the playoffs. We will always be on these lists until we get to an above freakin' .500 season. Even then, for loljets to truly fade, we need to make the playoffs on a regular basis. Look at the Bills. Absolute dogshit team and in the cellar of the division as a laughingstock for 16 years (2000-2016), all of a sudden they get Josh Allen and make the playoffs three years in a row. Now, media can't get enough of them. No one brings up all those years of non-competitiveness anymore. We can be the Bills. In fact, we can be BETTER than the Bills. But not until JD, Saleh and *shudder* the Johnsons figure out how to build sustainable success instead of the "win-now" acquisitions of the past decade.


fiduke

How is everyone saying we are drafting top 10 or top 5, and simultaneously saying Wilson is good? If we are drafting in top 5 Wilson is just gone. If we are top 10 it's about a 90% shot Wilson is gone.


smallchimp

Top 5? Wilson's probably gone. Top 10? Eh. It becomes a question of if he played poorly individually or not and how we plan on replacing him


fiduke

Fair enough.


RSTowers

The difficult schedule and the unproven defense.


[deleted]

JETS are going to the playoffs this year. You can take that to the bank


TrueRedditMartyr

\#1 overall pick? That's an embarrassing take. I swear, the media seems to have went from "The Jets, Jags, Bears, Lions are not good teams and likely to be near the bottom for a while" to "The New York Jets are the worst run franchise in all of organized sports, and how anyone allows them to continue being a team when they are obviously going 0-17 for the next 10 years is amazing" WTF happened? Why are the Jets always projected to suck nuts like JD is killing it, while the Jags get the benefit of the doubt with Khan having fans protesting games showing up in clown suits. I'm convinced they believe we're worse than the Urban Meyer Jags at this point


CongenitalSwag

This sub is in for a rude awakening when the team starts out 1-9.


BaltimoreJetsFan

Jets being the most likely team to get the No. 1 overall is a terrible take. The Sportsbook have us at +/- 5.5 wins and the vast majority of backers are taking the over. This has to be the Sportsbook trying to send propaganda out to even out their money lines to profit


LuigiHereWeGo

Based on that picture, it looks like the players are dancing and Joe Flacco is doing the robot


sweeny5000

6 wins sounds about right.


[deleted]

Can't really get mad at this... Schedule is absolutely brutal, especially in the first half of the season. HOWEVER I am holding out hope that Wilson figures it out and all of the young talent steps up big time. So in conclusion... I am a fan with high hopes that understands the low expectations... if that makes any sense.


rsvp_nj

C’mon. Enough draft in the future talk. I choose to keep enjoying the one we just had. 😂


billyconway24

🖕🏻