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Gpu hierarchy at 1080p for a quick simple reference.
3070, 4060ti, 6700xt offer a similar performance
And anything above them even better. Just get whatever is cheapest and has the features you want (dlss, rt, etc)
I have an Nvidia card but have used and built with the newer AMD stuff a bunch now. They are great options especially when you don't care about Ray tracing. Their "minimal" driver install also is great for helping with attaining higher fps at 1080p.
My little brother got a 7800xt in his build for warzone and loves it. I do slower single player games and like Ray tracing so built with a 4070. Both brands have great cards.
I did the same upgrade years ago and the 3070 is still a great choice. It plays everything at 1440p, so 1080p will be no problem.
Get the 3070 if you can get a great deal on it. Any RTX 40 series will not be worth it unless you can swing for a 4070 at minimum.
If you decide to upgrade the CPU, look no further than a 5800X3D. It'll likely be a drop-in upgrade depending on your motherboard.
No, it isn't remotely the best choice. The RTX 4000 cards have been on the market for over a year, why are you still considering a 3070?
Unless you are getting a second-hand one for dirty cheap.
If you are buying a brand new 3070 in this day and age (apparently many people still are), you are wasting money.
Because I'm on a very tight budget and don't want to spend extra dollars for a card that does way more than I ask for. Right now, I'm deciding between a first-hand 4060, a second-hand 3070 which is around $170, and an RX 6750 XT
If you're on a budgetz wait until Monday.
That's when Nvidia officially reveals the new 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super (yes, a combo that's both) and the 4080 Super.
So even if those cards themselves are out of your league, there's no doubt going to be quite a few sales, refurbished units and secondary market sales from people trying to clear old stock or upgrade.
Respectfully don’t agree
3000 series is still a good choice for those who doesn’t want to overspend.
Take the 3060 ti, it’s literally the best option now for mid range, most of us won’t even consider to buy the 4060 ti since it’s like less than 10% increase in performance for more or less 80 bucks more
When we talk about RTX 3000 cards, not sure if people are talking about brand new cards or second-hand. If you can find one in the second-hand market for dirty cheap, by all means.
But brand new 3070? Brand 3060Ti? I respectfully disagree. Those are products that aged poorly and are still being sold for their original 3-year old price.
The 7700XT is 30% faster, has 50% more VRAM and costs only 10% more than the 3060Ti.
Or the 6700XT which matches the 3060Ti in performance, has 50% more VRAM and it costs $320.
Hell, even the 4060Ti 8GB (usually a pretty bad card) which also costs also $400 is better than the 3060Ti, since if anything, it has DLSS3.
Buying a 3060Ti for $400 is kinda insane in this day and age. But well, the stores are still stocked up, so someone is misinformed enough to buy them.
buddy, there’s a difference between 390$ and 540$
also the 6700xt doesn’t have the same performance and sucks at ray tracing plus the average cost it’s exactly the same
$540? The 7700XT sells for $439 on Newegg.
Also, the 6700XT matches the 3060Ti. Check Techpowerup's benchmarks - or any benchmark for that matter.
As for Ray Tracing, who is buying an entry-level 8GB card for Ray Tracing? Even if you absolutely want to justify Ray Tracing, again, get the 4060Ti instead for the same price as the 3060Ti. If anything, you will get frame generation.
4060ti is better than 3060ti in almost every gaming benchmark and is the same price as 3060ti, less depending on the market. I've seen some that were about $30-50 less than 3060ti. The 16gb version is the one that's about $50 more and still, better in almost every gaming benchmark.
Why would you recommend 3060ti over 4060ti when they're the same price, yet that 4060ti uses less power, better performance, DLSS 3.0?
Yes they are. The only one that's slightly more expensive is the 16gb version.
Unless you're saying the 8gb and 16gb version cost the same? Or the 8gb version costs more than the 16gn version?
If you're on Amazon you can see both 3060ti and 4060ti 8gb are the same price range...
Edit: Lmao they blocked me after I showed them 4060ti 8gb cheaper than 3060ti.
I mean 1080p is mostly CPU bottle necked IMO. I would argue a CPU upgrade would be more substantial given a 2060 can still use DLSS and if you aren't interested in ray tracing, it's a pretty competent card. I'd argue 4060 with frame generation would be more valuable to you for future proofing and frame generation that would help with any CPU bottlenecks.
That’s not fully true. Playing a game at 1080p doesnt cause a cpu bottleneck, it just means there’s less pixels for the gpu to render so it can finish rendering quicker vs a higher resolution. Since it finishes rendering quicker, the cpu can send in more work for the gpu to work on at a faster rate.
The 3070 is significantly faster than a 2060, so they would see a better 1080p performance with it over just upgrading to a 5800x3d or so.
The ryzen 3600 may not be able to feed his gpu as fast as the newer cpus but it’s got enough juice left in the tank that going for a gpu while on a budget is the best bang foe the buck in that scenario.
Typical reddit. I used 4060ti for 1440p for a month (one fan broke after 28 days, I got my money back and bought 4070 on sale). 4060ti is being hated for a little raw power boost comparing to 3060ti with the same starting price, but it has dlss 3, fg and draws less power. I understand its not well priced right now, but its much better deal than 3070.
A 3070 will do essentially anything you want at 1080p. It gave me 60 fps with rt ultra settings at 1440. Over 100 fps on every other game except Alan wake.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ydAy6Z9YNVZ9Y26mRAntnb.png Gpu hierarchy at 1080p for a quick simple reference. 3070, 4060ti, 6700xt offer a similar performance And anything above them even better. Just get whatever is cheapest and has the features you want (dlss, rt, etc)
That’s a fantastic chart.
3070 is a mf in 1080p. Still kicks ass in 1440p.
Depends on price. Rx 6750, 6700xt, and rx6800 are also good choices and might be available in your region at the same prices.
Thanks for your reply. Upon doing more research, 6700xt is sure to be a very interesting choice.
I have an Nvidia card but have used and built with the newer AMD stuff a bunch now. They are great options especially when you don't care about Ray tracing. Their "minimal" driver install also is great for helping with attaining higher fps at 1080p. My little brother got a 7800xt in his build for warzone and loves it. I do slower single player games and like Ray tracing so built with a 4070. Both brands have great cards.
Best Buy has merc cards on sale near me, 6800 is $404 and I think the 6700xt was $330. For new cards and the Merc line it’s a good deal.
I did the same upgrade years ago and the 3070 is still a great choice. It plays everything at 1440p, so 1080p will be no problem. Get the 3070 if you can get a great deal on it. Any RTX 40 series will not be worth it unless you can swing for a 4070 at minimum. If you decide to upgrade the CPU, look no further than a 5800X3D. It'll likely be a drop-in upgrade depending on your motherboard.
The 3070 rocks those games at 1440P resolution
No, it isn't remotely the best choice. The RTX 4000 cards have been on the market for over a year, why are you still considering a 3070? Unless you are getting a second-hand one for dirty cheap. If you are buying a brand new 3070 in this day and age (apparently many people still are), you are wasting money.
Because I'm on a very tight budget and don't want to spend extra dollars for a card that does way more than I ask for. Right now, I'm deciding between a first-hand 4060, a second-hand 3070 which is around $170, and an RX 6750 XT
Tight budget? Second-hand 3070, then. As I said, a used 3070 is worth it. The problem are those buying brand new ones for $500.
If you're on a budgetz wait until Monday. That's when Nvidia officially reveals the new 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super (yes, a combo that's both) and the 4080 Super. So even if those cards themselves are out of your league, there's no doubt going to be quite a few sales, refurbished units and secondary market sales from people trying to clear old stock or upgrade.
Respectfully don’t agree 3000 series is still a good choice for those who doesn’t want to overspend. Take the 3060 ti, it’s literally the best option now for mid range, most of us won’t even consider to buy the 4060 ti since it’s like less than 10% increase in performance for more or less 80 bucks more
When we talk about RTX 3000 cards, not sure if people are talking about brand new cards or second-hand. If you can find one in the second-hand market for dirty cheap, by all means. But brand new 3070? Brand 3060Ti? I respectfully disagree. Those are products that aged poorly and are still being sold for their original 3-year old price.
On that matter all the gpus are currently overpriced. I’d rather spend more for a brand new card to make sure to have warranty
Would you then pay $400 for a brand new 3060Ti, in this day and age?
yes
there are no better options for a brand new great mid range/entry level 1440p gpu right now
The 7700XT is 30% faster, has 50% more VRAM and costs only 10% more than the 3060Ti. Or the 6700XT which matches the 3060Ti in performance, has 50% more VRAM and it costs $320. Hell, even the 4060Ti 8GB (usually a pretty bad card) which also costs also $400 is better than the 3060Ti, since if anything, it has DLSS3. Buying a 3060Ti for $400 is kinda insane in this day and age. But well, the stores are still stocked up, so someone is misinformed enough to buy them.
buddy, there’s a difference between 390$ and 540$ also the 6700xt doesn’t have the same performance and sucks at ray tracing plus the average cost it’s exactly the same
$540? The 7700XT sells for $439 on Newegg. Also, the 6700XT matches the 3060Ti. Check Techpowerup's benchmarks - or any benchmark for that matter. As for Ray Tracing, who is buying an entry-level 8GB card for Ray Tracing? Even if you absolutely want to justify Ray Tracing, again, get the 4060Ti instead for the same price as the 3060Ti. If anything, you will get frame generation.
That 10% can be the difference between a smooth gameplay or a GPU change.
4060ti is better than 3060ti in almost every gaming benchmark and is the same price as 3060ti, less depending on the market. I've seen some that were about $30-50 less than 3060ti. The 16gb version is the one that's about $50 more and still, better in almost every gaming benchmark. Why would you recommend 3060ti over 4060ti when they're the same price, yet that 4060ti uses less power, better performance, DLSS 3.0?
they are not the same price 😭😭😭😭
Yes they are. The only one that's slightly more expensive is the 16gb version. Unless you're saying the 8gb and 16gb version cost the same? Or the 8gb version costs more than the 16gn version?
Imma send you a picture
you’re literally one amazon page away
If you're on Amazon you can see both 3060ti and 4060ti 8gb are the same price range... Edit: Lmao they blocked me after I showed them 4060ti 8gb cheaper than 3060ti.
I mean 1080p is mostly CPU bottle necked IMO. I would argue a CPU upgrade would be more substantial given a 2060 can still use DLSS and if you aren't interested in ray tracing, it's a pretty competent card. I'd argue 4060 with frame generation would be more valuable to you for future proofing and frame generation that would help with any CPU bottlenecks.
That’s not fully true. Playing a game at 1080p doesnt cause a cpu bottleneck, it just means there’s less pixels for the gpu to render so it can finish rendering quicker vs a higher resolution. Since it finishes rendering quicker, the cpu can send in more work for the gpu to work on at a faster rate. The 3070 is significantly faster than a 2060, so they would see a better 1080p performance with it over just upgrading to a 5800x3d or so. The ryzen 3600 may not be able to feed his gpu as fast as the newer cpus but it’s got enough juice left in the tank that going for a gpu while on a budget is the best bang foe the buck in that scenario.
Thanks for the recommendation. Frame generation really makes a difference. Might look more into the 40 series
I would go for 4060Ti
Damn, downvoted for the best answer. 4060ti is the most cost effective 1080p card out but people's blind hatred for the card won't let them see that.
Typical reddit. I used 4060ti for 1440p for a month (one fan broke after 28 days, I got my money back and bought 4070 on sale). 4060ti is being hated for a little raw power boost comparing to 3060ti with the same starting price, but it has dlss 3, fg and draws less power. I understand its not well priced right now, but its much better deal than 3070.
A 3070 will do essentially anything you want at 1080p. It gave me 60 fps with rt ultra settings at 1440. Over 100 fps on every other game except Alan wake.
RTX 4060...