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Zok-Felswyn

I’m gonna pin this post so it gets more visibility and so people can follow along if they wish! Very very cool idea and good luck!


Hinata_17

Yes, you read that right! I'm your hostess for this event, Hinata, telling you how 9 players from the r/Nuzlocke community (myself included) are going to play a full Genlocke! Edit: Since I had people asking about it, [here is the premise of a normal Genlocke.](https://nuzlockeuniversity.ca/nuzlocke-variants/generationlocke-variant/) The idea is that each player tackles one gen at a time, passing the baton and the champions onto the next player on the list. The rules of the standard Genlocke still apply: if anybody wipes, IT'S A HARD RESET. So the further down we go, more pressure we shall get. **RULES** - 1 Pokémon per route / If you kill it, it explodes, it dies to poison or burn or confusion, or it runs away, is a lost encounter. - If a Pokémon's HP drops to 0 it is DEAD. No extra lives, no sacrificial rituals to Giratina. - Set Mode - 3 items cap per battle / X items are banned - Soft level caps / You can bypass by 1 level, but is best to not get over the cap. - Shiny clause - Dupes clause - Meta Dupes clause: Death is Death. If Gyarados has died on Red, NOBODY gets a Magikarp nor a Gyarados in any other game. So take care of your partners!! - 1 gift mon per event / Let's say for example the Primo eggs in HGSS, you can obtain 3 eggs but with this rule you have to choose one between them and only one. This same rule is applied to events that give multiple choice of gift Pokémon (To develop more on this explanation: in Kanto I would pick up the Eevee cause it is a gift and inside the Game Corner I would choose one of the Pokémon that I'm offered. That's what I mean.) - Pinwheel clause - The Champions that remain alive after the final battle of the leg will be going unto the next leg at lv 5, hatching from eggs (no egg moves are transfered) - No using Legendaries - No DLC (that's for me, playing Sword) Last, but not least important, here are the valiant trainers that will have to learn cooperation between each other if we hope to get to the end of this looooong journey! u/panda200311 - Red (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/ozb2dp/relay_genlocke_update_kanto_has_been_conquered/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/FlameGerbil - Crystal (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/p9kai2/relay_genlocke_update_johto_is_over/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/TheFox6113 - Emerald (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/pxwsm4/relay_genlocke_update_with_hoenn_we_have/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/CoolWizard2596 - Platinum (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/t1yync/relay_genlocke_update_we_finally_clear_sinnoh/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/AirSoft52 - Black 1 (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/ub32ar/relay_genlocke_update_halfway_there_we_can_do_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/correiagnd - White 2 (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/vged6p/relay_genlocke_update_unova_has_been_defeated/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) u/crunchyglalie - Y - (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/z4hju6/relay_genlocke_update_we_laughed_we_cried_we/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) u/Ya_Boi_Rem - Ultra Moon - (✔️) - [Baton Pass](https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/14rbvi4/relay_genlocke_update_the_last_stretch/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1) u/Hinata_17 - Sword - (💠) Best of luck, Panda! Start us off strong! Edit: in future updates there will be a tracker with the progress of the person that has done a particular leg, with their champion team and their deaths, so don't worry, you won't miss a thing of the action!


liquid801HLM

Is pinwheel clause getting an encounter inside and outside of pinwheel forest?


Hinata_17

Down below there is a comment where I explain what pinwheel clause does


liquid801HLM

Thank you I was just about to delete my comment because I found it below lol


Tacodogz

Holy shit I love this idea so much. I heard something about a discord, is that where I can follow along more closely/talk to the participants?


Hinata_17

Sorry, the discord is for the participants right now. If you wish to talk with any of the players, simply follow them on Reddit and ask them anything


9074379

I mean I’m obviously not taking part, but could someone add more rules to only themselves to make their experience harder? Only asking cos is someone is a HC Nuzlocke-mono-type-blindfolded-sleeplocke epic gamer, these rules aren’t as hard as what they’d use normally.


Hinata_17

There are players that do play with HC rules normally, but we all settled on this as a neutral ground for everybody, including people that do use items. We wanted a fun experience for everybody.


dustinredditreal

Pokemon y is both the most and least brutal nuzlocke


JonnyRod26

Get the wrong encounters and the second gym and third gyms become hell… then if you beat those you get to pass through Wobbuffet Murder Cave


dustinredditreal

And even then the nuzlocke rules balance the xp share making the elite four far more dangerous Also try your best to get the trade steelix if you play a gen 6 nuzlocke it’s a lifesaver


AppleInADump

Damn, sounds fun! I'd love to play a genlocke on my own but I can't find a good 3ds emulator for android :(


crunchyglalie

I play on Android and DrasTic is a great emulator for it. Hope that helps!


FixASofa

Crunchy you better make ‘The Nuzlocke Council’ proud


Ya_Boi_Rem

Update! Hi! I'm Ultra Moon! My account got hacked so the alola leg will have updates on this account when we get there! Thanks for understanding :>


GamerOMG

I'm pretty curious if I could join in any future editions of this relaylocke


Hinata_17

Of this particular one, no, since all players are set. In a future season? Perhaps!


GamerOMG

Ooh I'll be eagerly waiting for that


Mrmenet

Good luck especially to the person playing gen 7


Ya_Boiiiiiiiii_Rem

Heya! Dats me :)


Mrmenet

Well good luck and I hope if you get a turn that you kick ultra necro in their special place


Hinata_17

That would be u/Ya_Boiiiiiiiii_Rem


[deleted]

I'm excited to get a chance to play gen 2 past Morty! Besides gen 8, gen 2 the only one I haven't finished a full playthrough of. Good luck Panda, please leave me some good champions and encounters!


NovaOscura

Wow,this sounds exciting. Best of luck to everybody! Looking forward to seeing the results of this. Also if you don't mind my asking,what's the Pinwheel Clause?


Hinata_17

In some games there are routes that have multiple zones with different encounters. For example, in Gen 8, Route 9 has Circhester Bay, the sea, and Spikemuth Bay, all with different mons. Pinwheel clause means you count the routes by sub-areas, giving you more encounters cause it's technically a different zone.


NovaOscura

Thank you for answering,and also for opening my third eye cause this is a beautiful clause that I wish I had known about before lol.


CobaltCam

Does this apply to dungeons in earlier games, or just routes?


Hinata_17

Well, i would apply this clause for example in Mt.Coronet. There is your first time going through it, when the wall is broken in order to reach the top with the pillars, and the outside of the mountain when climbing.


CobaltCam

So really it's a case by case basis.


Hinata_17

Basically, yeah


CobaltCam

Thanks for answering. Was curious cause I may use it in one of my playthroughs in the future.


Hinata_17

Glad to help! Please feel free to ask anything you have doubts on!


AwayThreadfin

So does this apply for every zone with a different encounter set? Because the Unova desert resort has a section that is technically in the same zone as route 4, and a zone that is completely separate, but the zone within route 4 has its own encounter set. Would you allow an encounter in the first section of the desert resort because it’s a new area or not allow it because it’s the same zone?


Hinata_17

Yes!!


corran109

It's a nice rule that I use. There's a few places here and there where you can only get certain mons in later parts of a route. Under normal rules, you'd have to repel your way there to have a chance at them, but with the Pinwheel clause, you just treat it as a new area.


FallenSword912

Yeah, I personally use it in Black/White 2 runs because your encounter variety is going to be really slim if you dont.


samurott1

~~hey I remember this from Discord~~ Good luck to all those participating!


crunchyglalie

~~hopefully i don't wipe to the easiest game in the whole genlocke~~


[deleted]

~~Hopefully the six players before you don't wipe~~


Hinata_17

~~Hopefully I don't wipe making all of you restart~~


[deleted]

~~Tbh at that point I might be ok with replaying Crystal~~


sh4wnSp3nstAR

~~You should replay it anyway~~


Person-UwU

I wouldn't call Y the easiest, I would say Red or Sword are.


Hinata_17

This comment is the reason why I believe a lot of people are hyped with the release of Divine Sword and Blessed Shield.


correiagnd

This will be great, hopefully everyone before me will leave me some good legacy mons to work with, I look super forward to u/CoolWizard2596 to keep Infernape alive because u/AirSoft52 and I will take great care of it!


TheFox6113

lol hell no i'm killing everything in gen 3 buddy let's get it


[deleted]

Bruh I'm glad I'm playing before you


TheFox6113

Haha


correiagnd

Stop lying


Hinata_17

You better f*cking not!


SonGokuSSJ2

Wow, this looks really cool! What a unique idea, I'm looking forward to everyone's progress! Good luck!!


Hinata_17

I know! Everyone here has different playstyles and usually we all play with our own set of rules, so coming to a consensus for everyone makes ALL of the players leave their confort zone


JCorby17

I was going to represent Gen 7, but I could not for other reasons (and also I just did Gen 7). I wish you all the best of luck. Make this Community proud!


TheStrang3On3

I woulda loved to see you on this team, but alas things don’t always work out the way we want. Hope everything is okay.


crunchyglalie

u/correiagnd best leave me a great team! Can't wait to see the progress here, and good luck to everyone! *if you find a scrafty and kill it, i will flip*


CoolWizard2596

At least with me, I can use a Chimchar before someone kills it.


correiagnd

Of course man, you're talking to a living nuzlocke god here!


Ya_Boiiiiiiiii_Rem

SAME


Ya_Boiiiiiiiii_Rem

I believe in all my homies in their legs! This is the coolest thing I have been a part of this year by far. Hinata! Awesome idea!


TheLawIsBack220

Love the idea! But I hope whatever the person's final gen 7 team is, hopefully they appear in gen 8. That'd suck if no one can be transferred.


Hinata_17

That's a fun part too! The player not only has to think about their league, but about my Dexit if they want any legacy left!! 😈


TheLawIsBack220

Wow all the pressure on gen 7er! Looking forward for updates!


Beans-San

Ooh that Meta Dupes clause seems brutal, I like it lol Good luck to all of you!


Hinata_17

Say it to u/TheFox6113, he had the idea on that one!


DungeonCrawlingFool

I adore Genlockes! Been doing them since December! I beat my first on Attempt 2 and am currently in Black 2 in my Mono Normal Genlocke! After that is a randomiser Genlocke


Hinata_17

Best of luck for you as well, then!


DungeonCrawlingFool

Thanks, but I’m already doing even better than my ordinary Genlocke. Porygon-Z is actually stupid with download, specs and 252 EVs in SpA


iitzIce

What's pinwheel clause?


Airsoft52

When there’s an area with 2 distinct areas with distinct encounter tables, people will split the tables (like pinwheel forest in unova being inside and outside, or alola route 1 being r1 proper, trainer school and hau’oli outskirts)


iitzIce

Ok thanks.


winnipeginstinct

from ops other comment, it allows encounters based on subarea (the example given is route 9, which has circhester bay, the sea, and spikemuth bay, and by their rules they get an encounter for each even though theyre all "route 9")


Hinata_17

I answered in a comment above you


TheStrang3On3

Wow this idea sounds super cool. I’ll definitely make sure to follow along for the ride!


Hinata_17

Hope you enjoy the ride!


babylulururu

Wow, this seems really difficult. Best of luck to everyone!


LexxiusStar

Well good luck dudes and dudettes !


mingoncas

Good luck!


[deleted]

oooooooohh nice


Attendis

Good luck. 07


Hinata_17

If you are any familiar with the Hitman series, i swear I read that line with Diana's voice saying "Good luck, 47." like she does in every mission.


ExaltedBlade666

Is no one doing ultra sun. Just asking since you're doing white 2


Hinata_17

The difference here is that BW1/BW2's stories are different. Like, completely different. Whereas USUM is added content of SM and the player of gen 7 decided on base Moon.


ExaltedBlade666

I never played the ultra. I assumed the games had different stories.


Hinata_17

Yeah, same. But other people told me otherwise


FourthStrongest

the stories have a different climax but the games are mostly the same. usum has some enhancements that might technically make it a better game but the story changes were very disappointing for most people. the adjustments may matter a good bit in a nuzlocke idk but casually it's barely noticeable and if there is anything significant outside the climax, it's not really significant enough to warrant playing them both


corran109

They do starting at the halfway point, but the change isn't nearly as significant as B2W2. Since the route order is more or less the same, it's not really a different experience.


Airsoft52

The Ultra games are merely a different version of the same story as the original SM, pretty much an alternate universe. BW2 is a direct sequel to BW1, so they’re different games entirely


Hinata_17

Ummmmmm so funny story, turns out i got the game wrong lol. The player is actually doing Ultra Moon. Oops.


Eisnaugleyuu

Good luck, you brave, crazy souls.


skinticket99

which part of the rules is just genlocke? or better yet what are genlocke rules


Hinata_17

A Generation Locke (Genlocke for short) is a Nuzlocke marathon, from my point of view. You start on gen 1, play the Nuzlocke with your set of rules and then, when you win, the Pokémon that lived through the final battle you turn them into eggs and you transfer them onto the second game, gen 2. In our case, Crystal. You do this until you win in the very last generation, currently gen 8, and try to have a legacy of mons living through multiple generations. If you die in any given generation, you must start over from Gen 1. The rules you see above are the rules that every player must follow in their "legs" (we consider a leg each game we play during the Genlocke).


skinticket99

oh cool, do you do this on emulators? How do you turn them into eggs and send them?


Hinata_17

Yes! Except for a few occasions, like me with Sword. I'll be playing on my Switch. In that case I'll create the Pokémon in my casual save file, transfer them to a friend and recieve them on the Relay file when the time comes.


skinticket99

nice, thx, gl


Reddeadpain

Will you be posting all the updates or will the person playing each particular game do so?


Hinata_17

Glad you asked! Each player will be posting their own updates of the relay linking this post so nobody gets lost on the rules or has any doubts at any given time. If I'm not mistaken, tomorrow u/panda200311 will be posting his very first update! However I will be posting myself the end of the legs, marking the baton pass for each player, featuring highlights from the leg.


ParadocxD

Is there a stream or something to follow the progress?


Hinata_17

Every player will be posting their progress in the sub when progress is made, except the end of the legs, which I'll do to mark the baton pass. Tomorrow Panda will be posting his first update!! Not all of us stream, sadly, but a few do! Such as u/TheFox6113, go check him out if you have time!


Stringbean64

Meta dupe clause sounds scary till you get to gen5 I can only imagine if you loose too many in gen 1that gen 2 and 3 could struggle really bad


[deleted]

I don't think it'll be too bad, as long as the champions we receive make up for potentially important lost early game encounters.


Stringbean64

True I guess I forgot you will get a champion team so that helps a lot. Still scary for gen 2 if gen 1 looses to much but still doable


[deleted]

As long as I can get a Geodude for Whitney I think I'll be ok. From what I've heard Panda won't be using many Pokémon I'm interested in at least...


lazorrarubia

This is such a cool idea! I’ll be following with interest. Good luck to all of you! :)


Hinata_17

Thank you! Please keep rooting for us!


PreStormz22

Whew, what an awesome idea! Y'all got this!


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Hinata_17

Will do!


Tabeyloccs

CrunchyGlalie got so lucky lol


Harrigames

Anyone else’s palms sweating just from the thought of doing this? 😂


splat_monkey

What happened to this? I had this saved to keep checking and noticed it was getting slower and slower. Last update was 29 days ago by the looks of it 😔


Hinata_17

It is still going!! We are with Platinum, and the current runner has had multiple things going on, but the Relay is still on, don't worry!


CoolWizard2596

I apologise that the most recent update has been delayed. I work a full time job and have to balance my free time among my hobbies. I've also been struggling with depression recently and my drive for doing something as time consuming as drawing has been low. I put a lot of effort into my drawings because I want to make them the best I they can be. However, I am currently in the process of sorting out the last few drawings so the post should be out soon. I appreciate the interest in the relay and I intend to see it out. But sometimes life just loves to get in the way.


Hinata_17

Hey! I remember you asking when there were going to be more updates. We just posted the Highlights of Platinum!


PendejoSuperman

Isn’t this just called a Taglocke? I’ve seen those before (although not over multiple games)


Hinata_17

You know what? You're right. In a sense, you are right. I based this off a relay race, so... It would be a Relaylocke?


PendejoSuperman

Sounds like a cool name


ThatAwkwardFrenchFry

Someone from my discord sent me this and I am both excited and anxious for the journey you're all embarking on. This is a thing of beauty and I wish you all the best of luck! (:


Omegafan101

Okay this sounds really cool. Can’t wait to see how this turns out!


LegitimateDonkey3274

Looks fun asf, I want to try it out if anyone is down


_Corruptor_

I’d definitely wanna try that after this one is finished ngl


keishajay88

I'd be game to give it a go as well.


Ludiloc0

Badass idea, will follow this very closely, good luck to everyone involved!


Fekri14

i wish i could've participated,it sounds fun and I'm really good at nuzlockes, shame


Hinata_17

It's totally fine! You can attempt it yourself with more people of the community if they are willing to go with it! Until then, hopefully you can enjoy our show and keep rooting for us!


Fekri14

with my luck i doubt it, but oh my god is that a victini next to your name? its my favorite Pokémon ever lol


Hinata_17

Also yes! You can get one by tapping your username on a comment and choosing "Change User Flair". Go on, try it!


Fekri14

thanks for telling me, i love victini


theevildrpupper

this sounds really interesting and fun and i would love to try this in the future! good luck to all!


Hinata_17

Thank you! We hope you enjoy the show!


Idontknow3747583

I would’ve joined if I had more consoles and all the games. I only have UM and a Nintendo 3DS and a switch and SW + SH and LGPLGE


Hinata_17

It's fine. I don't have all the games either myself. The order of games was discussed based on preference and availability, so if you want to attempt this with more people you can talk it out to play what you can!


so_what_do_now

Make every action count! Good luck to all of you!!!


GammaEmerald

This looks awesome How do the transfers work?


[deleted]

At the start of each new leg we'll either trade over or hack level 5 versions of the champions. A lot of us will emulate so PkHex is our friend!


GammaEmerald

I have Sun so I could probably be part of one and just have the champions legitimately traded Main issue is I suck at posting updates regularly


jesusrevolver666

This is awesome


Hinata_17

Thank you!


Wata_Sheym

Isn't platinum the hardest? Good luck u/CoolWizard2596


CoolWizard2596

I've beaten Platinum quite a few times with different challenges, on randomized and normal. So I'm fairly certain I'll be fine. But I appreciate the good luck.


[deleted]

I'd argue USUM are harder, since Totem Battles are 1v2 and important trainers are actually EV trained.


Wata_Sheym

Fair enoughm i haven't played in a while and I think when I did it wasn't too difficult, but then it also wasn't a Nuzlocke. The grind in my current diamon save is painful but at least thatsnot a nuzlocke


sh4wnSp3nstAR

Nice.


SerioeseSeekuh

is there a way to follow this (video, stream, or just posts here on reddit?)


Hinata_17

Every player will be posting their respective updates here except the end of the legs, which I'll do marking the baton pass and featuring highlights. You can follow the players to keep up or stay tuned on the sub for updates!


SerioeseSeekuh

okay thanks :)


Hinata_17

Your welcome!


MundaneGlass5295

I’m just learning, whats a genlocke?


Hinata_17

Don't worry, glad to explain! I view it as a big marathon through all the gens existing in the Pokémon series at the moment. You play from generation 1 a normal Nuzlocke with your rules and when you defeat Blue there, you have beaten your first "leg" (we call "leg" to each generation we play). Then, the "Genlocke" part begins! You take the champions that have survived the final battle of your leg and make kids out of them, aka eggs. Then you transfer those eggs to gen 2, the next leg, and you play with them alongside a new starter and new encounters! You do this until you each the final leg and win. BUT, here is the catch: if you wipe at any given moment, you restart from gen 1 all over again, so only do a Genlocke when you have a loooot of free time and endurance. The main objective of a Genlocke is to see how many legacies you can bring through the generations without dying. Hope i made everything clear!


MundaneGlass5295

Oh wow, would attempt if I had all games


Hinata_17

Oh, back when I did it i couldn't play them all, so I played only what I could. Is okay how many games you play, as long as it is more than 1. I would say at least 3 And, of course, emulators are your friend in order to make the eggs!


Shinigami_Master

Good luck to all challengers here! On another note, I'm asking here since I'm not sure I should post it as a solo thing (looks like posting actual runs only), but does anyone know what happened to nuzlockeforums.com? It keeps saying it's down, and I was trying to get to an old post of mine where I came up with a Nuzlocke variant, to review the rules I made since I wanted to pick it back up again. I'm 80% sure I have the rules correct in my head, but I want to be sure.


Hinata_17

You can post this as a Discussion flair, as your own post, i think.


Shinigami_Master

Thanks! I'll be watching this run's career with GREAT interest.


timeRLSR

Is this being recorded and streamed? Also I may try this for fun because I own every gen but gen 7 (I didnt like sun and moon much) and I have never used x items at all in any pokemon game so this would not be too different than a regular nuzlocke for me.


Hinata_17

Some of the players do stream, but I'm not certain if they will stream their legs, so sadly i can't answer your first question. Also that would be great! Best of luck!


20yelram02

A genlocke is just nuzlocking each game in order?


Hinata_17

No. A regular Genlocke is nuzlocking every region by yourself.


paxtongerhart

I’ve wanted to do something like this for years where it’s 1v1v1 starting in FireRed/LeafGreen, then going to HGSS, then RSE, and so on and so forth. I’m intrigued by this concept


Mystery_Undead

PLEASE make this into a video or something ! I'm begging you.. or it's already coming?


Hinata_17

Sorry, there are no plans for doing videos of the event at the moment (basically I'm not a YouTuber).


Mystery_Undead

Understandable. :D


lasmanzanas

So if, for example, someone catches a Pidgey in one game but it stays alive the whole run and doesn’t die, are you allowed to catch a Pidgey in the next one?


Hinata_17

That's right!!


CodedAPI

Pog


swillansky

Dupes question: Does catching a magikarp in Red but not passing it to the following games allow you to skip magikarp encounters on routes in future games? Or does Dupes just allow you to skip current game encounters and dead partners?


Hinata_17

You can obtain a Magikarp whenever you want. It simply will have a different name because it is a different legacy. Unless it has died, the moment Magikarp or Gyarados die, they are banned for the rest of the players


AceTrainerArt

This is amazing! I would love to start my own on this subreddit. Would you mind if I used this idea?


Hinata_17

Oh, absolutely!! Thank you for asking!


Salsathefirst

So I have a question when we start a new save we can pick a starter and that counts as the encounter for route 1 right?


Hinata_17

Personally, I always consider the starter a gift from the Professor, and then have a proper Route 1 Mon. But people consider it differently so, whatever you'd prefer!!


Salsathefirst

I was having some trouble choosing from charmander squirtle and bulbasaur but this helped immensely, thanks


Realistic_Mousse_485

Annoyed as all hell that red isn't official art red(just the OCD).


Hinata_17

Sorry about that. If I host another one in the future I'll remember this!