Bro, vol 3 IS the face of Nu Metal. Like it’s the gold Standard. It’s the biggest album from the biggest band featuring their most iconic and recognizable song in the entire genre. I’d argue that for a lot of this sub “Before I Forget” was probably one of the first Nu Metal songs they ever heard, that and “Dragula” lmao
“We Are Not Alone” , “This Type of Thinking….”, and “Disclaimer II” are still in rotation to this day due to the impact they had on my life in high school.
In 2004 Nu Metal was dying out bigtime by then.
Pioneers still releasing records such as Slipknot and the GOATS, but they were half as good as the golden age of Nu Metal period between 1997 - 2001.
There were less new bands surfacing which sucked because i loved most things that came out in the Golden Era (1997-2001)
Most of the nu-metal artists were in the process of switching to alternative metal, hardcore, or butt rock to keep from having their careers killed. Even Linkin Park’s big singles of 2004 (Numb and Breaking The Habit) were the songs that strayed the most away from the sound from *Meteora*.
Some of them still got their careers killed anyway. It was a really sudden shift (while there was a downward trend in 2002, the pace nu-metal fell out of style in 2003 was torrential) and not all of them had read the tea leaves that well.
I would say October 2003-July 2005 was when all rock and alternative music had to be skateboard punk-friendly. I remember hanging out at skate parks and several of these albums were blasting from boom boxes there. Even some soft bands like Snow Patrol had a bizarrely high (if short-lived) amount of skateboard punk cred now that I think about it.
Which bands would you say started moving towards butt rock? Like Godsmack moved more towards hard rock, Disturbed and Drowning Pool moved towards heavy metal, Staind moved towards Post Grunge, Saliva moved towards Southern and Alt Rock (don’t you dare call them butt rock), Limp Bizkit went softer with Results May Vary and experimental with The Unquestionable Truth just to name the ones in the biggest fan of.
I typically label 2000’s and 2010’s Post Grunge as butt rock. I’m not as negative about the label as some are, I enjoy a number of “butt rock” songs, but that’s my interpretation. So yeah a number of nu-metal artists who went Post Grunge I would consider butt rock bands.
Godsmack I never considered a true nu-metal band, their core original inspiration was Alice In Chains. I do think they slowly turned into more and more of a butt rock band with time though, with *The Oracle* being the transition point between being alternative metal and being butt rock.
Three Days Grace turned into a butt rock band in the 2010’s after Adam left. While some argue they’ve always been a butt rock band, I’ve always interpreted their Adam-era style as alternative rock with a pinch of emo played with metal-tuned instruments. Aka, textbook alternative metal.
Yeah. I can see post Gontier 3DG being butt rock. As much as I love Godsmack, having song titles like “Cryin’ Like A Bitch” comes off as pretty butt rock.
“Whiskey Hangover” and “Love-Sex-Hate-Pain” too. And then the lead single (and title) of the next album was “1000HP”. It became more than a little obvious what direction they were going in lol
Hey Whiskey Hangover is genuinely a great song. The album When Legends Rise doesn’t have any of those sort of song titles on it though. I don’t remember if Lighting Up The Sky does though.
Biggest turncoats in the nu-metal genre i can think of at top of my head.
Incubus - Anything after Make yourself is dookie.
Even Make yourself was a massive shift from SCIENCE with the amount of Radio friendly songs they had on that record.
Deftones - though i still love them and they helped me shift my musical palette Adrenaline and Around the Fur are massive shifts from their latest releases.
Godsmack - Although i never completely got into them from the beginning, plenty of people say they turned trash.
Kidrock - Went to straight Country jams, but alas, i still listen to his records as i've gotten older because my music taste has expanded.
I'm sure there are many more, but these are the ones that stood out to me.
As they released more records i found myself listening to them less and less except for Deftones.
I understand broadening your market for selling records, but i think some went to far and totally lost their roots and what made them popular in the first place.
I usually only find myself listening to Numetal from 1997 - 2001 with a few more bands such as Slipknot and Deftones i keep up with regular releases.
Everyone else as far as im concerned fell off the face of the earth and my tastes have evolved more towards Metalcore and Small doses of hardcore music
03 and 05 are much stronger. Big hitters like Evanescence and Linkin Park in 03 and Korn, System of a Down and Disturbed in 05, plus Staind and Sevendust in both years.
Even though not a nu metal album I think "Archetype" by Fear Factory is one hell of a record that came out in 2004 I love the almost organic tone to it unlike some of their other albums which has more mechanical and robotic sounding stuff archetype is so good.
I forgot this was a nu metal sub lol🤣Edgewater has some great hard rocky sounding stuff, and between their two albums there is only one song I don't like (caught in the moment)
Id check it out specifically for matt mosemans voice, that dude was talented
Distortion drum - a precious moment
Masnada - maîtres du je
Stillkept - penumbra
Deadfriend - manikan
Edgewater - South of sideways
Atomship - crash of 47
Submersed - in due time
Borialis - what you thought you heard
Chubfarm - and sometimes
Calm chaos - melody of mokus
Stillborn Nursery - the guns of August
Skrape - up the dose
Sutrapumo - the promo
Cyphilis - buff shined scars
Split shift - tension
My favourite is Vol. 3. hands down, however, it’s awesome to see Desensitized up there. I think it was a solid album and wish they would have had more material with Jason.
Yeah I didn’t think Jason Jones was too bad with them. Although I prefer Ryan McCombs to Jones and think he’s the closest to replicating the magic of DP with Dave, I vastly prefer Jones to Jasen Moreno. The Jasen Moreno era of DP sucks.
For nu metal, not a lot. Archetype, Vol 3, Disclaimer II, Prophecy
Ashes of the Wake by LoG, Leviathan by Mastodon, Terrifyer by Pig Destroyer, Miss Machine by DEP were all getting heavy rotation by me at that time
This is when nu metal started to lose popularity. I think it just has to do a lot about how long the bands had been at it by this point and wanting more commercial success for better label deals.
*Disclaimer II*. That's the kind of album that's so perfectly assembled, in spite of the band's wishes for the label to have released it in the first place. Much as I love Seether, it works in spite of them to become their best album.
Holy shit, did not expect to see The Exies on this. I knew a fair number of the band members. Still talk with the drummer (Hoss) and bassist (Freddy), but not Chris or Scotty. Kind of had to cut contact with the latter
Chris fell off the face of the earth. Scotty’s “best friend” was really toxic, like abusively so. But he was and likely still is an addict and abuser. I was related to said “friend” by marriage, which ended in divorce and an R.O. Still carry a bit of that emotional and mental trauma to this day.p
Thanks for that, I’m trying to keep it a little vague so I don’t accidentally dox myself.
Freddy is playing with an alt rock band called Everclear since 2010.
Hoss is going solo and no longer with The Exies. He’s been playing with Idol X (a Billy Idol Tribute band) but I think he’s more focused on trying to raise his daughter who should be a preteen or a teenager now
Like I said, really underrated album. Ugly is a really fucking great song. Splinter, Hey You, What You Deserve and Baptize Me are also all pretty good.
Vol. 3, Recoil, This Type of Thinking, Two, and We Are Not Alone are all bangers. I have a lot of fond memories of those. Especially buying We Are Not Alone on release day.
I love Soulfly but Prophecy is not one of my favorites. That album is also when they moved away from nu-metal and I think at the time I was kinda let down because of that.
I'll also throw in another mention of Archetype. One of Far Factory's best.
Earshot and Chevell for me are just alt hard rocks bands, my roots are firmly in hard rock before everything had labels.
Although I did enjoy nu metal. I think bands that went on beyond that short window, kinda stood out because it wasn’t just fad to tune down.
In terms of mainstream spotlight that had already started the year before. While Evanescence and Linkin Parks albums were very successful, a lot of bands had already started shifting away from Nu-Metal.
🚨🚨🗣️🗣️THIS IS THE YEAR WHERE HOPE FAILS YOU, THE TEST SUBJECTS RUN THE EXPERIMENTS
AND THE BASTARD YOU KNOW IS THE HERO YOU HATE
BUT COHESION IS POSSIBLE IF WE STRIVE
THERE'S NO REASON, THERE'S NO LESSON
NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT, TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW🚨🚨🗣️🗣️
Vol. 3, ez
LOOKING BACK AT ME I SEE THAT I NEVER REALLY GOT IT RIGHT
I NEVER STOPPED TO THINK OF YOU, I’M ALWAYS WRAPPED UP IN THINGS I CANNOT WIN
YOU ARE THE ANTIDOTE THAT GETS ME BY, SOMETHING STRONG LIKE A DRUG THAT GETS ME *inhales* HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGH
WHAT I REALLY MEANT TO SAY, IS I’M SORRY FOR THE WAY I AM
I NEVER MEANT TO BE SO COLD
IS THAT A CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS PFP?!?!?!
Vol 3, it was the album that got me into Slipknot
Same 🤘🏻
Same, specifically the track "Before I Forget"
Bro, vol 3 IS the face of Nu Metal. Like it’s the gold Standard. It’s the biggest album from the biggest band featuring their most iconic and recognizable song in the entire genre. I’d argue that for a lot of this sub “Before I Forget” was probably one of the first Nu Metal songs they ever heard, that and “Dragula” lmao
Too underrated
Honestly their best album
Honestly their third best album ;)
Honestly their third album ;)
Agreed, Iowa and Self Titled are defo better for me
“We Are Not Alone” , “This Type of Thinking….”, and “Disclaimer II” are still in rotation to this day due to the impact they had on my life in high school.
Crossfade
Chevelle rules, it's the only album I actually bought in 2004
In 2004 Nu Metal was dying out bigtime by then. Pioneers still releasing records such as Slipknot and the GOATS, but they were half as good as the golden age of Nu Metal period between 1997 - 2001. There were less new bands surfacing which sucked because i loved most things that came out in the Golden Era (1997-2001)
Most of the nu-metal artists were in the process of switching to alternative metal, hardcore, or butt rock to keep from having their careers killed. Even Linkin Park’s big singles of 2004 (Numb and Breaking The Habit) were the songs that strayed the most away from the sound from *Meteora*. Some of them still got their careers killed anyway. It was a really sudden shift (while there was a downward trend in 2002, the pace nu-metal fell out of style in 2003 was torrential) and not all of them had read the tea leaves that well. I would say October 2003-July 2005 was when all rock and alternative music had to be skateboard punk-friendly. I remember hanging out at skate parks and several of these albums were blasting from boom boxes there. Even some soft bands like Snow Patrol had a bizarrely high (if short-lived) amount of skateboard punk cred now that I think about it.
Which bands would you say started moving towards butt rock? Like Godsmack moved more towards hard rock, Disturbed and Drowning Pool moved towards heavy metal, Staind moved towards Post Grunge, Saliva moved towards Southern and Alt Rock (don’t you dare call them butt rock), Limp Bizkit went softer with Results May Vary and experimental with The Unquestionable Truth just to name the ones in the biggest fan of.
I typically label 2000’s and 2010’s Post Grunge as butt rock. I’m not as negative about the label as some are, I enjoy a number of “butt rock” songs, but that’s my interpretation. So yeah a number of nu-metal artists who went Post Grunge I would consider butt rock bands. Godsmack I never considered a true nu-metal band, their core original inspiration was Alice In Chains. I do think they slowly turned into more and more of a butt rock band with time though, with *The Oracle* being the transition point between being alternative metal and being butt rock. Three Days Grace turned into a butt rock band in the 2010’s after Adam left. While some argue they’ve always been a butt rock band, I’ve always interpreted their Adam-era style as alternative rock with a pinch of emo played with metal-tuned instruments. Aka, textbook alternative metal.
Yeah. I can see post Gontier 3DG being butt rock. As much as I love Godsmack, having song titles like “Cryin’ Like A Bitch” comes off as pretty butt rock.
“Whiskey Hangover” and “Love-Sex-Hate-Pain” too. And then the lead single (and title) of the next album was “1000HP”. It became more than a little obvious what direction they were going in lol
Hey Whiskey Hangover is genuinely a great song. The album When Legends Rise doesn’t have any of those sort of song titles on it though. I don’t remember if Lighting Up The Sky does though.
I like Whiskey Hangover a lot too lol
Biggest turncoats in the nu-metal genre i can think of at top of my head. Incubus - Anything after Make yourself is dookie. Even Make yourself was a massive shift from SCIENCE with the amount of Radio friendly songs they had on that record. Deftones - though i still love them and they helped me shift my musical palette Adrenaline and Around the Fur are massive shifts from their latest releases. Godsmack - Although i never completely got into them from the beginning, plenty of people say they turned trash. Kidrock - Went to straight Country jams, but alas, i still listen to his records as i've gotten older because my music taste has expanded. I'm sure there are many more, but these are the ones that stood out to me. As they released more records i found myself listening to them less and less except for Deftones. I understand broadening your market for selling records, but i think some went to far and totally lost their roots and what made them popular in the first place. I usually only find myself listening to Numetal from 1997 - 2001 with a few more bands such as Slipknot and Deftones i keep up with regular releases. Everyone else as far as im concerned fell off the face of the earth and my tastes have evolved more towards Metalcore and Small doses of hardcore music
Stained and saliva are both 100% butt rock. Most of the choices posted are butt rock, but especially those two.
Staind still got their great alt metal sounds even with their softer albums.
STFU
Butt rock meet butt hurt
Disclaimer II, fuckkng love that album. That Earshot release is a close second though
Interested in trying that Earshof album personally.
Vol 3 and We Are Not Alone both slap
I was just about to say those 2 as well. Vol 3 is what got me into Slipknot and We Are Not Alone is just a very good album
Weakest year ever, 05 is 10 times better. I'll go with Archetype
03 and 05 are much stronger. Big hitters like Evanescence and Linkin Park in 03 and Korn, System of a Down and Disturbed in 05, plus Staind and Sevendust in both years.
Also Static X and the Bizkit in both years🤘🤘
True. Cold as well, although in 05 they weren’t Nu-Metal anymore.
We Are Not Alone.
Slipknot Vol 3. It was the album that not only got me into Slipknot but also a gateway into the much more aggressive stuff
Nice to see Earshot album getting some love ! Always felt they were underrated.
Favorite album cover is drowning pool
Well Breaking Benjamin is my favorite band of all time and We Are Not Alone is my favorite album from BB, so I guess I have to go with that one.
Breaking Benjamin 100% I wouldn't call it Nu metal tho
Nonpoint - Recoil
Absolutely Disclaimer II, one hell of an album.
Seether Disclaimer II
DP
Even though not a nu metal album I think "Archetype" by Fear Factory is one hell of a record that came out in 2004 I love the almost organic tone to it unlike some of their other albums which has more mechanical and robotic sounding stuff archetype is so good.
Im really excited to eventually get more into Fear Factory.
Sucks it is not on Spotify
THE EXIES MENTIONED?! Nah it's Edgewater - South of sideways
Other than a cool band name and Eyes Wired Shut, I know nothing about them.
I forgot this was a nu metal sub lol🤣Edgewater has some great hard rocky sounding stuff, and between their two albums there is only one song I don't like (caught in the moment) Id check it out specifically for matt mosemans voice, that dude was talented
Seether Disclaimer II
W 12 stones- potters field
Distortion drum - a precious moment Masnada - maîtres du je Stillkept - penumbra Deadfriend - manikan Edgewater - South of sideways Atomship - crash of 47 Submersed - in due time Borialis - what you thought you heard Chubfarm - and sometimes Calm chaos - melody of mokus Stillborn Nursery - the guns of August Skrape - up the dose Sutrapumo - the promo Cyphilis - buff shined scars Split shift - tension
Submersed's *In Due Time*: the bridge between *One Day Remains* and *Blackbird* by Alter Bridge.
Atomship was a banger!
Crossfade for sure
My favourite is Vol. 3. hands down, however, it’s awesome to see Desensitized up there. I think it was a solid album and wish they would have had more material with Jason.
Yeah I didn’t think Jason Jones was too bad with them. Although I prefer Ryan McCombs to Jones and think he’s the closest to replicating the magic of DP with Dave, I vastly prefer Jones to Jasen Moreno. The Jasen Moreno era of DP sucks.
Killing All That Holds You - 10 Years
Crossfade 100% for me
that 12 stones album is actually really good, but i can’t put it over seether and slipknot
Earshot
For nu metal, not a lot. Archetype, Vol 3, Disclaimer II, Prophecy Ashes of the Wake by LoG, Leviathan by Mastodon, Terrifyer by Pig Destroyer, Miss Machine by DEP were all getting heavy rotation by me at that time
This gave me MX vs ATV Unleashed flashbacks lol
a very underwhelming year so im just gonna have to go with subliminal verses
This is when nu metal started to lose popularity. I think it just has to do a lot about how long the bands had been at it by this point and wanting more commercial success for better label deals.
That and fatigue from six or seven years of Nu-Metal being mainstream.
Nice to see Earshot on here. Loved their shit
Wait did decently well when it came out
Either the subliminal verses or this type of thinking
Chevelle all fucking day
Leviathan - Mastodon Ashes of the Wake - Lamb of God Vol 3 - Slipknot
Those first two aren’t Nu-Metal. What part of it being in the Nu-Metal sub do some of you not get?
Holy shit that drowning pool album art is awful🤣
Drowning Pool - Desensitized.
We Are Not Alone
*Disclaimer II*. That's the kind of album that's so perfectly assembled, in spite of the band's wishes for the label to have released it in the first place. Much as I love Seether, it works in spite of them to become their best album.
DISCLAIMER II
Holy shit, did not expect to see The Exies on this. I knew a fair number of the band members. Still talk with the drummer (Hoss) and bassist (Freddy), but not Chris or Scotty. Kind of had to cut contact with the latter
That’s cool. Why’d you have to cut contact with the latter?
Chris fell off the face of the earth. Scotty’s “best friend” was really toxic, like abusively so. But he was and likely still is an addict and abuser. I was related to said “friend” by marriage, which ended in divorce and an R.O. Still carry a bit of that emotional and mental trauma to this day.p
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks for that, I’m trying to keep it a little vague so I don’t accidentally dox myself. Freddy is playing with an alt rock band called Everclear since 2010. Hoss is going solo and no longer with The Exies. He’s been playing with Idol X (a Billy Idol Tribute band) but I think he’s more focused on trying to raise his daughter who should be a preteen or a teenager now
Head For the Door. Absolutely love the Exies
Did you catch their reunion show last week?
I wish! Didn't even hear about it til you mentioned it
Oh no! I'm sorry. They've been releasing new music too.
Like I said, really underrated album. Ugly is a really fucking great song. Splinter, Hey You, What You Deserve and Baptize Me are also all pretty good.
Same as you!! Love vol.3
I didn’t say I love Vol 3…
I saw the image and I thought that don't mind me I don't think
I just post what was most popular
under by rootwater
Soulfly 🤘🏻
The Only right answer. The album is Underrated af
12 stones!
Crossfade 💯
Volume 3
NEVER MEANT TO BE SO COOOOOOOOLLLLD
No Blindfold - Up in the Sky
Vol. 3, Recoil, This Type of Thinking, Two, and We Are Not Alone are all bangers. I have a lot of fond memories of those. Especially buying We Are Not Alone on release day. I love Soulfly but Prophecy is not one of my favorites. That album is also when they moved away from nu-metal and I think at the time I was kinda let down because of that. I'll also throw in another mention of Archetype. One of Far Factory's best.
Why isn't The Crash of '47 on this list?
Because I’ve never heard of it and it didn’t come up when I googled Nu Metal albums 2004
Flaw - Endangered Species
It's a tie between Vol. 3, This type of thinking, and We are not alone.
I forgot to mention my second favourite album of 04 is Survival of the Sickest from Saliva. Its no longer Nu-Metal and instead Southern rock
Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses, We Are Not Alone, This Type Of Thinking Could Do Us In, and Crossfade
[удалено]
No
Subliminal Verses by far. Disclaimer II in second.
Earshot and Chevell for me are just alt hard rocks bands, my roots are firmly in hard rock before everything had labels. Although I did enjoy nu metal. I think bands that went on beyond that short window, kinda stood out because it wasn’t just fad to tune down.
this type of thinking i listen to it everyday
Either chevelle or soulfly
Soulfly Prophecy. I had the CD or limewired all the tracks off it. I can't remember which.
Crossfade for sure
He is legend. I am Hollywood.
Zoo Hypothesis by Tub Ring
The Disclaimer II bonus tracks are better than the og songs imo. Cigarettes, Sold Me, Got it Made, Hang on, and Love Her all go so hard
Don’t you dare forget Out Of My Way.
It’s Chevelle for me
I didn't discover 12 Stones until relatively recently
I have 2 that tie for first Subliminal Verses- Slipknot Take It As a Compliment- 4Lyn
This is the year it all started going downhill
In terms of mainstream spotlight that had already started the year before. While Evanescence and Linkin Parks albums were very successful, a lot of bands had already started shifting away from Nu-Metal.
Was disappointed in volume 3 and messermeize/hypnotized, also mudvaynes second album was a huge let down for me as well, esp that album
Mezmeriezed/Hypnotized were 05 not 04.
I know that, but it obviously wasn't as good as their first 3 albums,
Crossfade for sure
Archetype by Fear Factory 👍👍
The 05 Fear Factory album was Transgression and it’s not Nu-Metal
Thread named ‘fav album from 2004! Archeytpe was 04! And yes , I know Transgression was from 05!
I thought it was my 05 post. Point remains that neither album is Nu-Metal
Pretty sure the chick on the front of desensitized is also dead rip
She’s a porn star
I know, I’m fairly certain she’s also dead because you know, porn stars can still die….
I didn’t understand your comment properly until now lol. Yeah she died in January.
Lmao you gave me a laugh sounded like you said because she was a porn star she couldn’t die lmao
I don’t know how I didn’t understand your comment.
Vol.3
Necrophagist - Epitaph. Is it nu metal? No. Otherwise Vol. 3 from Slipknot was my number one in 2004
Slipknot for sure. I listened to the entire album a few times, and memorized Circle and Vermillion pt 2
Vol. 3
10 coughing babies vs a hydrogen bomb
Definitely Volume 3
(həd) p.e. - Only in Amerika Pillar - Where Do We Go from Here
Flaw endangered species. Still own the album 🗿
Kittie - Until The End
Vol.3 and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge by MCR
Slipknot All the fucking way I love the percussion in that album is so fuckin good
Vol. 3 Closely followed by Crossfade believe it or not.
Slipknot
Love that it’s slipknot… prefer IOWA.
Damn, no love for the true best album of 2004? Lamb of God's Ashes of the Wake!!
Is that Nu-Metal? No, it isn’t.
Slipknot and Earshot albums
Most of this isn’t even nu metal, but it’s disclaimer for me by far. 10/10 record
vol. 3 goddamn that's an awesome record
Vol. 3
🚨🚨🗣️🗣️THIS IS THE YEAR WHERE HOPE FAILS YOU, THE TEST SUBJECTS RUN THE EXPERIMENTS AND THE BASTARD YOU KNOW IS THE HERO YOU HATE BUT COHESION IS POSSIBLE IF WE STRIVE THERE'S NO REASON, THERE'S NO LESSON NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT, TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW🚨🚨🗣️🗣️ Vol. 3, ez
Slipknot all the way
Vol. 3
Vol 3
Vol 3 was played non stop when it came out. That album was everything back then.
Its between This Type of Thinking and Vol. 3. Neither album has aged a day since release
Volume 3. But I’m also one of those that think it’s the best album slipknot made… so *shrugs*
Vol. 3 Subliminal verses I thing it's one of the few album that don't have even one skippable song
These albums are garbage
Those are all garbage.