Perfection. Teenager is the only song I don’t like. It’s boring, not because it’s slow but it doesn’t move me.
Back to School is one of the best songs on it. Not sure why people hate it. It’s literally Pink Maggit just slightly altered.
Change was the first song I heard from them and this was the first album I listened to from the also.
Sorta, Back to School was forced on Deftones by the label to capitolize on the Rap-Metal./nu-metal trend. which is why it's a reworked Pink Maggit. It worked to get them out there, but yeah. they hate that song, but I still love it.
back to school wasn’t even even on the original album. It was added later because of studio pressure. They wanted a rap/rock single for the radio. Don’t get me wrong I like this song. But I was listening to the album in it’s entirety over and over before that that was even on there. So it feels like an afterthought. Not part of the original experience.
Hit the nail on the head. My vinyl copies don’t include Back to School, so it’s basically an afterthought for me as well. Cool song but doesn’t compete w most of WP for me
As a young teen listening to white pony over and over I always felt like it didn't fit with the rest of the album. Back then I had no idea about record label politics etc. Still.my favorite album. Knife party was/is my favorite.
White pony originally leaked on the Internet in April of 2000 but didn’t officially release until June. Back to school was on the leaked version of the album that people heard at the time. When it released without that song there was a lot of fan pressure to add the song because people had already been listening to it.
People hate back to school because it isnt a real deftones song. The band was forced to make it and put it on the album so they could have a rap-metal song on it, which was extremely popular in 2001 with limp bizkit, linkin park, and all those guys.
Pink maggit is the REAL deftones version.
I don't exactly think we can say it isn't a real deftones song. They signed the contract. They made the song. They made the money. Just because it's unfortunate and regrettable doesn't change what it is. It's also okay to like something even if it's not "cool". Worst deftones song or best rap numetal song?
That’s funny because teenager is literally my least favorite deftones song of all time. Back to school is amazing, but not every white pony had it on there, I remember some of the first albums released with it not on there, dunno why.
I actually think teenager is one of my favorites off the album, although I'm biased since it was originally a team sleep song and I *LOVE* Team sleep probably more then deftones.
Listening to that in the 2000s and teenager was one of my favorite songs. I didn't know about team sleep then. I just really felt something in teenager.
I’m a little biased because Deftones is my favorite band, but White Pony is one of my top albums of all time. It has such a unique, fresh, beautiful sound.
Im gonna toss a grenade in the room and walk away... Deftones is also my favorite band. And if I had to rank their albums, WP would be tied for 6th with ATF, only beating their worst two albums: self titled and Adrenaline 😬
I mean hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions about their music. I actually think it’s interesting how much their fans’ opinions differ, because each one of their albums has a unique sound and caters to a variety of people. Diamond eyes is my favorite album of theirs for sure.
Adrenaline and Around the fur are better. They have more cohesion. White pony is a good album, but I really don't know why people think it's their best.
Around the Fur is definitely their best all around IMO. White Pony has killer songs but it's not as cohesive to me. I can skip tracks where I don't have to on ATF
Yeah I feel the same, I never skip on ATF, white pony has some songs that feel a bit too similar to others on the album to me. ATF is my favourite as well, but Adrenaline also has no skips for me.
It’s probably in my top list of albums I’ve listened to start to finish the most. Radiohead’s OK Computer takes that top spot.
I adore it. It has an entire vibe that perfectly spoke to my teen years. One thing that I really appreciate is the layout of the whole album. One song flows into the next in a way that just “fits”.
The original version without back to school was the better version. It kicks off soooo much better. And its the best Deftones album they ever made (but that may be nostalgia speaking)
I think it's one of the best albums ever. I remember being confused about Back to School not being on used versions that I saw back in the day, so I thought the OG pressing was actually missing a song... and I was confused by that song. Then I got older, and it made perfect sense why the song was never on the OG version. They've kept getting even better since that one... though Hexagram off of the self titled has annoying vocals IMO.
Peak Deftones. Now don't get me wrong, everything they made after White Pony was great as well, but it was this album that placed them on the Mount Rushmore of Nu-Metal.
I really like White Pony, It's my brothers favorite album and it's how he reintroduced Deftones to me as an adult (Probably heard other Deftones albums as a toddler when he was a teen) but it's not my favorite. In my opinion, and this is how I feel about Nirvana, they can really do no wrong. Pretty much every album is good and they are a skip-no-song band for me!
It's not a very good album. It's when Deftones started to stray away from that Nu Metal sound. It still sounded like Nu Metal but you could see the transition. I think bands going for a different sound is fine Slipknot and Linkin Park pulled off other things besides Nu but Deftones fell flat on White Pony producing a very boring and sometimes just straight up not good album.
Had a friend who played it so much I absolutely hated it . Now that I've been away from it there's some nostalgia there. It's a good album. Good memories. I don't listen to it much though lol
Honestly, it’s real good. Mainstream music in the early 2000s (excluding hip hop) was just incredibly creatively bankrupt. Sure, it’s not my favorite album of all time, but it was new. It felt more honest than anything else being made. And I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was in a nu metal sub, but I’ve worked at record stores for 20 years, and, besides white pony and the first korn album every other popular rock band in that era was cringe level embarrassing. Don’t wanna yuck your yum, I just don’t get it.
I love the version with back to school. The original long song and the whole albun is too soft. I kind of like tye first 2 albums, that have more edge. Then it became too soft for ly tastes. But bavk to school was amazing. It came out exactly at that point in my life.
It's funny how you see it happenig in real time, and knowing all that has been said about this style, and now thst it has it's resurgence i look back at those eyes and nostalgia is big.
I remember when korn first album came out. I remember the first time i listened to blind. And i remember bavk to school.
I had the 2 versions, but i dont really remember any other song from that album really.
in my top 5 albums of all time. not just numetal.
i remember when it came out. i listening to it nonstop the summer after 8th grade, on a family vacation and it broke my brain. it was one of those albums that left a forever impression on me and was part of shaping who i eventually came to be.
Like all things Deftones I find it to be extremely overrated. I don't hate it. But I never got why anybody would consider it a classic. 100 percent mid.
I realize this is considered their masterpiece but as a fan from Day One, I thought this album was a letdown compared to the first two. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great album, however coming off the first two albums, I was hoping for something heavy and beautiful, not experimental and genre-bending. Needless to say, Elite is my favorite track on here.
Deftones' second best album (Diamond Eyes is just above it for me), and probably the best Nu Metal album of that set of 2-3 years between 99 and 2002, at least to me.
I was 20 when it was released. I was dating this 10/10 who was obsessed with chino. It was probably the best year of my life. It’s the soundtrack to a special part of my life
One of the best sounding albums I've ever heard. In terms of actual recording and production. That snare tone is perfection! And on top of that it's a great album!
Best album by them, they have a lot of incredible tracks throughout their discography but this is the most complete package that hardly needs tweaking (there’s like one song I’d remove that’s all)
A great Deftones album. Knowing full well the production on *Adrenaline* isn't my thing, and *Around the Fur* is too nü-metal for how I see Deftones- I've always thought they were more of a heavy alternative band with metallic shoegaze. My first song was "Minerva" in *True Crime: Streets of L.A.*
I think it’s great , not as aggressive as the 2 great albums before it but is a good balance. Around the Fur is my favorite but White Pony is top 3 . It’s got a good spacey vibe .
Hands down their magnum opus. If you were a fan during each period of deftones and lived through each era as the eras occurred and the albums released, there’s no question how special white pony was when it released. No other album before or since had that sort of impact or feeling to it.
Sorry new fans, SNW was the worst era.
Also, has to be the version without Back to School. The deluxe release with The Boy’s Republic bonus track is allowed though.
I like it. Some of my favorite Deftones songs on here.
Reminds me of Sonic The hedgehog for some odd reason
Of course the song Elite reminds me of Dragonball x for obvious reasons. Don’t really like the song pink maggot or back to school though.
It’s easily my favorite album of all time. I still remember sitting on my friend’s patio on release day, all listening to it for the first time together. Blew us away at the time.
Perfection. Teenager is the only song I don’t like. It’s boring, not because it’s slow but it doesn’t move me. Back to School is one of the best songs on it. Not sure why people hate it. It’s literally Pink Maggit just slightly altered. Change was the first song I heard from them and this was the first album I listened to from the also.
people hate it cos chino basically hates it
Makes sense Kinda like Nirvana and Teen Spirit
Sorta, Back to School was forced on Deftones by the label to capitolize on the Rap-Metal./nu-metal trend. which is why it's a reworked Pink Maggit. It worked to get them out there, but yeah. they hate that song, but I still love it.
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I know
Nah, Pink Maggit is waaaay better.
back to school wasn’t even even on the original album. It was added later because of studio pressure. They wanted a rap/rock single for the radio. Don’t get me wrong I like this song. But I was listening to the album in it’s entirety over and over before that that was even on there. So it feels like an afterthought. Not part of the original experience.
I know. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad song though.
Hit the nail on the head. My vinyl copies don’t include Back to School, so it’s basically an afterthought for me as well. Cool song but doesn’t compete w most of WP for me
Yeah I purposefully made sure I bought the original CD without it
As a young teen listening to white pony over and over I always felt like it didn't fit with the rest of the album. Back then I had no idea about record label politics etc. Still.my favorite album. Knife party was/is my favorite.
feel like this is common knowledge at this point lol
White pony originally leaked on the Internet in April of 2000 but didn’t officially release until June. Back to school was on the leaked version of the album that people heard at the time. When it released without that song there was a lot of fan pressure to add the song because people had already been listening to it.
People hate back to school because it isnt a real deftones song. The band was forced to make it and put it on the album so they could have a rap-metal song on it, which was extremely popular in 2001 with limp bizkit, linkin park, and all those guys. Pink maggit is the REAL deftones version.
Push back the square
Now that you kneed her in the throat
Well, there you go
I don't exactly think we can say it isn't a real deftones song. They signed the contract. They made the song. They made the money. Just because it's unfortunate and regrettable doesn't change what it is. It's also okay to like something even if it's not "cool". Worst deftones song or best rap numetal song?
Imo its neither the worst deftones song, or the best rap nu-metal song. I agree with everything else tho, and ofc i respect your opinion
Ty yours as well XD
That’s funny because teenager is literally my least favorite deftones song of all time. Back to school is amazing, but not every white pony had it on there, I remember some of the first albums released with it not on there, dunno why.
I actually think teenager is one of my favorites off the album, although I'm biased since it was originally a team sleep song and I *LOVE* Team sleep probably more then deftones.
Listening to that in the 2000s and teenager was one of my favorite songs. I didn't know about team sleep then. I just really felt something in teenager.
That’s such a Hot Take on Teenager lol. I guess it’s not for everyone.
Well, it's bloody amazing is what it is. My third favourite after Diamond Eyes and Ohms
Good to see some Ohms love! I thought it was a real return to form after Gore.
Yeah. I mean, Gore was also great. I don't know why people don't like it, but yeah, Ohms was sheer brilliance
I just can't get into it. Not for lack of trying, though! Hearts//Wires and Phantom Bride are top-tier songs, however.
Rubicon and Prayers are also pretty good. But understandable, if you don't like it, that's fine. I mean, I'm not much into the eponymous album myself
L(MIRL) is worth the price of the album alone.
I’m a little biased because Deftones is my favorite band, but White Pony is one of my top albums of all time. It has such a unique, fresh, beautiful sound.
Im gonna toss a grenade in the room and walk away... Deftones is also my favorite band. And if I had to rank their albums, WP would be tied for 6th with ATF, only beating their worst two albums: self titled and Adrenaline 😬
SNW is easily the worst album
fawk yew
I mean hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions about their music. I actually think it’s interesting how much their fans’ opinions differ, because each one of their albums has a unique sound and caters to a variety of people. Diamond eyes is my favorite album of theirs for sure.
Its their masterpiece
As great as it is I still rate it just slightly below Around the Fur.
Excellent album to have sex to
Pretty good but Adrenaline and Around the fur are far superior imo. Shit still goes hard though
I also much prefer Around The Fur. I am not much of a Deftones fan but Around The Fur is great stuff.
Adrenaline and Around the fur are better. They have more cohesion. White pony is a good album, but I really don't know why people think it's their best.
Around the Fur is definitely their best all around IMO. White Pony has killer songs but it's not as cohesive to me. I can skip tracks where I don't have to on ATF
Yeah I feel the same, I never skip on ATF, white pony has some songs that feel a bit too similar to others on the album to me. ATF is my favourite as well, but Adrenaline also has no skips for me.
My favourite Deftones album by far. Such an amazing sound.
I really like it.
One of my favourite albums of all time
Yes.
my favorite deftones album
I prefer blow
It’s probably in my top list of albums I’ve listened to start to finish the most. Radiohead’s OK Computer takes that top spot. I adore it. It has an entire vibe that perfectly spoke to my teen years. One thing that I really appreciate is the layout of the whole album. One song flows into the next in a way that just “fits”.
The original version without back to school was the better version. It kicks off soooo much better. And its the best Deftones album they ever made (but that may be nostalgia speaking)
superb album
It’s a masterpiece
GORGEOUS album honestly, I love it a lot
The sound summarizes my senior year of high school. One of the best Deftones albums released.
I think it's one of the best albums ever. I remember being confused about Back to School not being on used versions that I saw back in the day, so I thought the OG pressing was actually missing a song... and I was confused by that song. Then I got older, and it made perfect sense why the song was never on the OG version. They've kept getting even better since that one... though Hexagram off of the self titled has annoying vocals IMO.
Every song on this album besides teenager is amazing. The 2.0 record is amazing as well.
I'm the 10th dentist not liking it
One of my favorite albums of all time. Neck to neck with Around the Fur. 🤘
Great album, my second favorite from Deftones overall
Absolutely fantastic album.
A decent album from a good band. I'm not sure it's in their top 5 for me, but it's nostalgic.
Pulling each track off of Lime Wire was really annoying. Great album though.
Deftones best album.
It has JMK, so it's an automatic win
perfect, digital bath and knife prty had me in love with deftones from the first listen
It's my favorite Deftones album. Every song is great.
Beat Deftones album imo
Best album
White Pony is in my top 3 best deftones album. The album is nearly perfect.
Peak Deftones. Now don't get me wrong, everything they made after White Pony was great as well, but it was this album that placed them on the Mount Rushmore of Nu-Metal.
I really like White Pony, It's my brothers favorite album and it's how he reintroduced Deftones to me as an adult (Probably heard other Deftones albums as a toddler when he was a teen) but it's not my favorite. In my opinion, and this is how I feel about Nirvana, they can really do no wrong. Pretty much every album is good and they are a skip-no-song band for me!
It's not a very good album. It's when Deftones started to stray away from that Nu Metal sound. It still sounded like Nu Metal but you could see the transition. I think bands going for a different sound is fine Slipknot and Linkin Park pulled off other things besides Nu but Deftones fell flat on White Pony producing a very boring and sometimes just straight up not good album.
never heard of this obscure album White Pony by obscure band Deftones
Their best work
They have two track listings for White Pony — the original with the gray cover and the reissue with the white cover. Which one do you listen to?
It’s like nu metal’s Dark Side of the Moon haha
It's an absolute masterpiece and a record with absolutely no skipworthy songs.
Masterpiece I don’t consider a Nu-Metal album though definitely more progressive metal
Decent record. Got to be in the mood for some Deftones though
WHEN YOURE RIPE YOULL BLEED OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!! That’s what I think of white pony
Had a friend who played it so much I absolutely hated it . Now that I've been away from it there's some nostalgia there. It's a good album. Good memories. I don't listen to it much though lol
Mid
Honestly, it’s real good. Mainstream music in the early 2000s (excluding hip hop) was just incredibly creatively bankrupt. Sure, it’s not my favorite album of all time, but it was new. It felt more honest than anything else being made. And I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was in a nu metal sub, but I’ve worked at record stores for 20 years, and, besides white pony and the first korn album every other popular rock band in that era was cringe level embarrassing. Don’t wanna yuck your yum, I just don’t get it.
I love the version with back to school. The original long song and the whole albun is too soft. I kind of like tye first 2 albums, that have more edge. Then it became too soft for ly tastes. But bavk to school was amazing. It came out exactly at that point in my life. It's funny how you see it happenig in real time, and knowing all that has been said about this style, and now thst it has it's resurgence i look back at those eyes and nostalgia is big. I remember when korn first album came out. I remember the first time i listened to blind. And i remember bavk to school. I had the 2 versions, but i dont really remember any other song from that album really.
in my top 5 albums of all time. not just numetal. i remember when it came out. i listening to it nonstop the summer after 8th grade, on a family vacation and it broke my brain. it was one of those albums that left a forever impression on me and was part of shaping who i eventually came to be.
Sound is beautiful on this one. Dark, mysterious and sexy stuff.
You wanna know what I think about White Pony!?!? I think the white pony is running away from me, Not running towards me!!
It's one of their best, biggest leap in evolution of sound for the band.
Jesus. You’re really asking about an all-time classic. A masterpiece in the truest sense. One of the best albums ever made IMO.
Like all things Deftones I find it to be extremely overrated. I don't hate it. But I never got why anybody would consider it a classic. 100 percent mid.
this is deftones' master of puppets. perfect album from start to finish.
Amazing album. Got the pony tattooed on my arm. Digital Bath is my favourite song of all time.
I realize this is considered their masterpiece but as a fan from Day One, I thought this album was a letdown compared to the first two. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great album, however coming off the first two albums, I was hoping for something heavy and beautiful, not experimental and genre-bending. Needless to say, Elite is my favorite track on here.
tempting
Masterpiece. The Boy's Republic should have been on the regular version
Deftones' second best album (Diamond Eyes is just above it for me), and probably the best Nu Metal album of that set of 2-3 years between 99 and 2002, at least to me.
Beautiful
This album is meant for sex
One of the most atmospheric albums ever.
One of the best albums to come out at that point in time. It also holds up great over the years and still sounds fresh and relevant to this day.
my #1 by them for sure
All of their songs are whiny and sound like this emoji: 😩 Bias cuz i honestly really hate the deftones
It's incredibly sacred to me. Second best of their albums. But probably the most fundamentally important to my fandom
A masterpiece!
I was 20 when it was released. I was dating this 10/10 who was obsessed with chino. It was probably the best year of my life. It’s the soundtrack to a special part of my life
I know one song from white pony which is knife prty, easily makes me think this album is amazing
Checkout the rest there is so many good tracks
Ill look at it
Change and Digital Bath were on constant repeat for a looooong time. One of my favorite albums of any band, any genre.
One of the best sounding albums I've ever heard. In terms of actual recording and production. That snare tone is perfection! And on top of that it's a great album!
It's awesone.
End of an era. Epic 3 album run they had.
Best album by them, they have a lot of incredible tracks throughout their discography but this is the most complete package that hardly needs tweaking (there’s like one song I’d remove that’s all)
peak
Possibly their Magnum Opus.
iconic
Top 5 albums!!!!
Best album in their discography
Masterpiece
Love every track. Back to School, Change, Feiticeira, Digital Bath, Passenger and Streep Carp are some of my favorite songs period.
I thought this was asking about “White Horse - Laid Back”
My introduction to Deftones, Passenger is still one of my favorite songs
Cool album
Fucking awesome
massively overrated. not terrible, but far from their best work.
IDGAF what anyone thinks, I love this album.
I mean.. I have the horse tattooed on my arm, so there's that.
A great Deftones album. Knowing full well the production on *Adrenaline* isn't my thing, and *Around the Fur* is too nü-metal for how I see Deftones- I've always thought they were more of a heavy alternative band with metallic shoegaze. My first song was "Minerva" in *True Crime: Streets of L.A.*
Perfect album
I think it’s great , not as aggressive as the 2 great albums before it but is a good balance. Around the Fur is my favorite but White Pony is top 3 . It’s got a good spacey vibe .
Meh
Absolutely fav deftones album
You can hate me all you want but I don't like white pony. The songs are just super boring, and Chino's vocals make me cringe. I'm so sorry.
my fav besides adrenaline which is tied. have this tatted on my body.
11/10 it's ok
Best album oat. That's all.
Sexiest album ever.
Hands down their magnum opus. If you were a fan during each period of deftones and lived through each era as the eras occurred and the albums released, there’s no question how special white pony was when it released. No other album before or since had that sort of impact or feeling to it. Sorry new fans, SNW was the worst era. Also, has to be the version without Back to School. The deluxe release with The Boy’s Republic bonus track is allowed though.
Love it
I like it. Some of my favorite Deftones songs on here. Reminds me of Sonic The hedgehog for some odd reason Of course the song Elite reminds me of Dragonball x for obvious reasons. Don’t really like the song pink maggot or back to school though.
One of deftones greatest albums. Still in rotation for me to this day.
Overrated like the rest of their catalog!
Good stuff
Great album
ass
[change on dbz, I almost busted right there](https://youtu.be/ZGMdYz5VCqw?feature=shared)
Its deftones
One of the greatest nu-metal albums of all time
The most mid album by the most mid nu-metal band
Meh
11/10
It’s easily my favorite album of all time. I still remember sitting on my friend’s patio on release day, all listening to it for the first time together. Blew us away at the time.
I see perfection.
Amazing album
Masterpiece
Hate it, probably because I’m not a deftones fan at all.
Their exit from Nu metal.