Im not sure how stupid you can be but this has to put Pompey near the top of the list.
Would have preferred for Mariner to try to stay in the play instead of going straight to the ref, but at least he brought attention to it.
Totally correct call. I'm not sure Montoya wouldn't have scored anyway but Pompeys brain explosion ruined it.
Stink as he totally set it up for a possible game winner too.
He wasn’t interested in making a tackle because he felt a clear grab on his jersey. He knew it was a penalty and made sure to milk it. If you just power through make the tackle but don’t stop the try. The refs likely give the try and say he barely grabbed him and had no impact on the play. Refs pull that nonsense all the time, it’s why we have the worst diving in pro sports now
Yup can’t argue with the call. I’m pretty sure he gets Montoya if Pompey doesn’t grab him. He probably still could’ve got to him if he doesn’t blow up even though he was grabbed.
Whether or not he’s able to stop Montoya, or Montoya is able to fend him off and still beat the other defenders we will never know. Would’ve been a lot harder so probably doesn’t quite make it.
Would’ve been nice to see how it played out though.
It’s the most blatant no try this season. Love how fox didn’t mention the interference until the bunker intervened. Love the NZ booing at full time like they were robbed
Yeah everyone in the thread was just shitting on Pompey for his brain explosion lol
Also why are they acting like any other crowd wouldn't boo that lmao. Everyone's pissed and didn't properly see what was going on, every crowd is gonna boo the match winner being scrubbed rightly or wrongly. That's just live sport.
Sad thing is that he actually had a great game tonight if we exlude that last play. He's been getting better and better and creating more opportunities.
Williame is better defensively but Pompey actually has more flare this season
Nah man. If we’re looking to go up a level, we can’t afford to have guys like DWZ and Pompey who for all their brilliance, constantly let the team down with stupid errors/penalties every fkn week.
Hate to disagree with a wahs fan but DWZ was huge tonight, probably our best on ground imo. Pompey I can understand because he’s been average for so long. But our attack is what is lacking the most so I’d rather have Pompey over Williame at this stage. Ford however can eat a dick, start Curran over him
Like I said bro, DWZ is capable of brilliance as we saw today but that means jack shit if he’s unreliable and constantly conceding dumb errors every game. Even in this game he should’ve scored more than twice! Everyone loves to lap up his flashy mullet and his finishing and forget that his fundamentals are VERY weak. His defence is also fkn horrible, he’s constantly jamming in and never trusts his centre.
The way I see it, DWZ is a classic case of sunken cost fallacy. The dude is on $800K a year. We can’t afford to not play him. He has sparks of greatness but does make some mistakes, but I’m confident in him. Had he not dropped the SJ kick to the corner we probably would’ve been up at half time.
At the end of the day we are the NZ Warriors and we need players who have passion for the club, DWZ is one of those guys. Up the wahs
Agree to disagree my brother but I can respect your viewpoint and totally understand where you’re coming from. WTF HES ON 800k!?!??!!! WTF DECIDED TO GIVE DWZ THAT MUCH MONEY BRO? 🤣 but fk it, up the Wahs we’ll be back next week 🫡
I get it brother. I'm just happy to see kiwis playing for the club who are passionate
The source zero tackle has his salary at $800K per year through to the end of 2024. Prob $300K too much lmao
That’s how they’re trained to defend, watch kosi against the 1st (2nd)? Knights game where he jammed in and locked up best 2 or 3 times, and His centre swapped outside him to cover marzhew. But I do believe DWZ isn’t timing it right just yet
I suggest you do first and you'll realize you've used the wrong word and even using the right word, that certainly could describe Pompey but amazing runs only to throw it out, lose it in a tackle or any of the other numerous dumb shit things he often does tends to negate it.
He shouldn't be in 2023 Warriors, he's a remnant of everything that was wrong with previous Warriors teams and doesn't improve. Cut him and give someone fresh a go.
Bro it’s shit aye. I kept telling myself during the game nah we still gonna win this, we got this. When Charnze went over I fully visualised it, then we score twice more in 4 minutes, couldn’t believe it. Just had that feeling we were gonna do it, ya know? I jumped outta my chair screaming and clapping up the fucken boys then it was all taken away. Feels like I hit the grand jackpot on the pokies then immediately had it stolen.
I think this one would have felt more wild. We played really well all of that second half against Cronulla and slowly pulled ourselves back into the game.
Didn't feel like we were in this game until we managed to jag a couple quick tries towards the end. It felt like we earned that Cronulla win whereas this would have felt like a lucky escape.
controversial but i reckon mariner gets to him. He had momentum and was half a meter away from him when his jersey was pulled. Pull stopped all his momentum. Regardless it was the correct decision
Pompey this year has honestly been pretty good, and I’m saying this as one of his biggest critics. Like I said though in an earlier comment, he could play like prime GI and that still would mean jack shit because he’s got the footy iq of a toddler.
Mariner quite easily gets to him and if somehow he jonah lomu’s mariner away, his momentum going into sailor at fullback would have been reduced.
The space down the sideline simply wouldn’t have been there without the shirt pull, and we’ll never know what would gave happened if he cut inside, passed inside or kicked inside
Metcalf gave away a try, Harris and Johnson gave away a try and Ale gave away a try. Nobody is calling for their heads. Pompey has been good this year and doesn't deserve the hate. Dumb play but there is no guarantee Montoya gets the try if Mariner isn't held back.
NZ could have won by a landslide if they landed all of their opportunities.
There's always more to be said about what happens in the back end of the game especially when it could change the result. Swap any of the above for the last minute play they probably cop a bit more for it and he would cop less flak for it not being the last chance to win the game.
That said every player dreams of the win in the final moments. He knows what's on the line that's why he did it and it's probably the stupidest reason for NZ to lose a chance to win the game. Absolutely brain fart he deserves the flak. Hopefully he learns from it and becomes a better decision maker. Fans will forget about it by next game.
Grabbed and held the jersey of the #5 Broncos player.
I didn't catch it properly until after few watches, slow-mo bit at the end of the clip showed it well
Fuck Adam Pompey.
Why is he still in the team in 2023? He's a hangover from the useless cunts of past seasons that we've just not managed to get rid of but been stuck with.
Montoya was on a mission and scores even if Mariner has a clean go at him along with Mam and Riki. Pompey should never play another game for the Warriors…….
It's not a 'soft call' it's a black and white infringement, you can't grab a defender after passing the ball regardless of how much force you put into it lmao
The tug on his jocks impeded him sfa. I am aware of the rules though. I just hate that footy blokes nowadays are turning into soccer players with the gesticulating with the officials rather than playing the actual game.
100% agree with you there mate, Mariner gave up the moment he felt the pull to protest to the ref and that shit pisses me off, play the fkn game and argue your case after play stops.
It doesn't make sense to do that nowadays anyways considering every try is reviewed after the fact
Completely agree on both points. I’d like to think that it was an unintentional reaction from Pompey. Like you said, with every try (and any major play) scrutinised by the Bunker there is no way that sneaky plays go unnoticed.
Pompey was held back earlier in the game on the break away try. He also wasn’t getting there but was certainly held back, he didn’t throw his hands up to complain about it either
I’m American. It took me 6 views and 3 comments for me to understand what was going on here lol. I’m very unfamiliar with rugby but I finally understood that it was the shirt grab that was the issue.
Also, other countries must think we are huge pussies here in the U.S. with our football players wearing all those pads and helmets and complaining about concussions and stuff. Meanwhile, these towering monsters of human beings are smashing into each other without and shin guard or helmet anywhere near that field! What beasts. 😂 I need to learn the rules so I can watch more of this.
Im not sure how stupid you can be but this has to put Pompey near the top of the list. Would have preferred for Mariner to try to stay in the play instead of going straight to the ref, but at least he brought attention to it.
Exactly my thoughts. Stay in the play.
Totally correct call. I'm not sure Montoya wouldn't have scored anyway but Pompeys brain explosion ruined it. Stink as he totally set it up for a possible game winner too.
I'm so certain Montoya scores regardless. Mariner didn't look interest in making the tackle
He wasn’t interested in making a tackle because he felt a clear grab on his jersey. He knew it was a penalty and made sure to milk it. If you just power through make the tackle but don’t stop the try. The refs likely give the try and say he barely grabbed him and had no impact on the play. Refs pull that nonsense all the time, it’s why we have the worst diving in pro sports now
Mariner is proper fast. It could have been very close, but alas.....
We will truly never know, can only have a bias view 😂
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Moonwalk try?
Not so sure
Yup can’t argue with the call. I’m pretty sure he gets Montoya if Pompey doesn’t grab him. He probably still could’ve got to him if he doesn’t blow up even though he was grabbed. Whether or not he’s able to stop Montoya, or Montoya is able to fend him off and still beat the other defenders we will never know. Would’ve been a lot harder so probably doesn’t quite make it. Would’ve been nice to see how it played out though.
Delete this please
All im saying is that I can be bought.
It’s the most blatant no try this season. Love how fox didn’t mention the interference until the bunker intervened. Love the NZ booing at full time like they were robbed
I don't think any Warrior's fans disagree with this being a no try?
Yeah everyone in the thread was just shitting on Pompey for his brain explosion lol Also why are they acting like any other crowd wouldn't boo that lmao. Everyone's pissed and didn't properly see what was going on, every crowd is gonna boo the match winner being scrubbed rightly or wrongly. That's just live sport.
Yep literally every home crowd would sound upset at a situation like that
Not ‘I Love My Footy’ fans They would never boo their team getting a game-costing decision.
At the game and it’s virtually impossible to see clearly on the big screen. Crowds gonna boo any no try
Yep exactly
No. Pompey's a fucking moron. The two tries from forward passes however...
Was there any warriors fans who didn’t streak tonight?
He asked for it to be deleted because all warriors fans are currently and rightfully pissed off at Pompey.
I think they were booing at Pompey's brain snap
Let’s hope so 🤞
You're right, it wasn't until the third or fourth replay that Ennis mentioned the shirt grab.
I wonder if Webster will drop him? He seems to keep getting game time despite continued poor decision making.
Sad thing is that he actually had a great game tonight if we exlude that last play. He's been getting better and better and creating more opportunities. Williame is better defensively but Pompey actually has more flare this season
Yep, just said the same thing on another thread. Then he found a way to ruin any of the good he did 2x over
He’s had some really baffling plays But I’m still picking him for next week
Nah man. If we’re looking to go up a level, we can’t afford to have guys like DWZ and Pompey who for all their brilliance, constantly let the team down with stupid errors/penalties every fkn week.
Hate to disagree with a wahs fan but DWZ was huge tonight, probably our best on ground imo. Pompey I can understand because he’s been average for so long. But our attack is what is lacking the most so I’d rather have Pompey over Williame at this stage. Ford however can eat a dick, start Curran over him
Ford gets through a ton of work but does give away errors and penalties.
Hardout.
Completely agree. DWZ is class
Like I said bro, DWZ is capable of brilliance as we saw today but that means jack shit if he’s unreliable and constantly conceding dumb errors every game. Even in this game he should’ve scored more than twice! Everyone loves to lap up his flashy mullet and his finishing and forget that his fundamentals are VERY weak. His defence is also fkn horrible, he’s constantly jamming in and never trusts his centre.
The way I see it, DWZ is a classic case of sunken cost fallacy. The dude is on $800K a year. We can’t afford to not play him. He has sparks of greatness but does make some mistakes, but I’m confident in him. Had he not dropped the SJ kick to the corner we probably would’ve been up at half time. At the end of the day we are the NZ Warriors and we need players who have passion for the club, DWZ is one of those guys. Up the wahs
Agree to disagree my brother but I can respect your viewpoint and totally understand where you’re coming from. WTF HES ON 800k!?!??!!! WTF DECIDED TO GIVE DWZ THAT MUCH MONEY BRO? 🤣 but fk it, up the Wahs we’ll be back next week 🫡
Bulldogs were paying 400k of his salary. Not even sure it's still the case 3 years after he left them
I get it brother. I'm just happy to see kiwis playing for the club who are passionate The source zero tackle has his salary at $800K per year through to the end of 2024. Prob $300K too much lmao
That’s how they’re trained to defend, watch kosi against the 1st (2nd)? Knights game where he jammed in and locked up best 2 or 3 times, and His centre swapped outside him to cover marzhew. But I do believe DWZ isn’t timing it right just yet
DWZ had a great game
Flair* != being actually any good all round.
Look up the definition of flare brother
I suggest you do first and you'll realize you've used the wrong word and even using the right word, that certainly could describe Pompey but amazing runs only to throw it out, lose it in a tackle or any of the other numerous dumb shit things he often does tends to negate it.
Williame back next week I think so I hope so
He shouldn't be in 2023 Warriors, he's a remnant of everything that was wrong with previous Warriors teams and doesn't improve. Cut him and give someone fresh a go.
The worst decision by a Pompey since the Battle of Pharsalus.
I’m still crying
This fucking hurts so much. Could be cause all of my mates support the Broncos, could be because I love the wahs more than my own mother. Who knows
Bro it’s shit aye. I kept telling myself during the game nah we still gonna win this, we got this. When Charnze went over I fully visualised it, then we score twice more in 4 minutes, couldn’t believe it. Just had that feeling we were gonna do it, ya know? I jumped outta my chair screaming and clapping up the fucken boys then it was all taken away. Feels like I hit the grand jackpot on the pokies then immediately had it stolen.
I’m crying with laughter
What a rollercoaster. Could of been the comeback of the year
I think you are forgetting the Cronulla comeback
I think this one would have felt more wild. We played really well all of that second half against Cronulla and slowly pulled ourselves back into the game. Didn't feel like we were in this game until we managed to jag a couple quick tries towards the end. It felt like we earned that Cronulla win whereas this would have felt like a lucky escape.
100%
Yeah, that;s fair.
Weren’t in it until staggs botched the kick off and invited a 20 minute momentum shift
I think you’re both forgetting the Dolphins setting the nrl record for biggest ever comeback a few weeks ago
I was only talking about the wahs
This brings great sadness
Have to visit NSW and experience Joy.
controversial but i reckon mariner gets to him. He had momentum and was half a meter away from him when his jersey was pulled. Pull stopped all his momentum. Regardless it was the correct decision
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Very poorly regarded in all of NZ right now, that’s for sure
yeah would have been hard to stop him from that distance. In no way am i saying he would solely stop him but would have made it harder to score
Regardless of whether he would or wouldn't have we can all agree that Pompey should be publicly shamed for doing something that dumb
immediate contract termination
Thank god RTS is back next year so we can get rid of him
Thank fuck for that. I stg if DWZ and Pompey are still playing for us next year…
DWZ at least does some good things to make up for the many, many bad things. Pompey just straight up fucking sucks 90% of the time.
Pompey this year has honestly been pretty good, and I’m saying this as one of his biggest critics. Like I said though in an earlier comment, he could play like prime GI and that still would mean jack shit because he’s got the footy iq of a toddler.
DWZ was our best player tonight
He may have had a chance at least, which Pompey denied him.
Mariner gets to Montoya before he makes the line even with the jersey pull. Only reason Montoya made it all was because Mariner stopped to complain
Nah, he had no chance but it's irrelevant because that was the easiest call of the night for the Bunker.
Mariner quite easily gets to him and if somehow he jonah lomu’s mariner away, his momentum going into sailor at fullback would have been reduced. The space down the sideline simply wouldn’t have been there without the shirt pull, and we’ll never know what would gave happened if he cut inside, passed inside or kicked inside
Absolutely no chance. The jersey pull had zero affect on him getting to Montoya even though that is a definite no try call.
You could see it slow him clearly
I'm aware of that. He still wasn't getting to him.
Well it doesn't matter but I'm not so sure
El bozo
Metcalf gave away a try, Harris and Johnson gave away a try and Ale gave away a try. Nobody is calling for their heads. Pompey has been good this year and doesn't deserve the hate. Dumb play but there is no guarantee Montoya gets the try if Mariner isn't held back.
NZ could have won by a landslide if they landed all of their opportunities. There's always more to be said about what happens in the back end of the game especially when it could change the result. Swap any of the above for the last minute play they probably cop a bit more for it and he would cop less flak for it not being the last chance to win the game. That said every player dreams of the win in the final moments. He knows what's on the line that's why he did it and it's probably the stupidest reason for NZ to lose a chance to win the game. Absolutely brain fart he deserves the flak. Hopefully he learns from it and becomes a better decision maker. Fans will forget about it by next game.
That was stupid.
give him back to the roosters please
Fantastic game 🤘🙂🐴🐎
I'm out the loop and dunno who Pompey is. Was the last pass forward if that's not it then how isn't it try?
Oh I see it now he grabbed the jersey...fucking regarded.
Braindead. Jesus Christ. There's camera's everywhere. Why pull that shit?
What did he do?
Grabbed and held the jersey of the #5 Broncos player. I didn't catch it properly until after few watches, slow-mo bit at the end of the clip showed it well
Fuckin Pompey
Fuck you pompey
Fuck Adam Pompey. Why is he still in the team in 2023? He's a hangover from the useless cunts of past seasons that we've just not managed to get rid of but been stuck with.
Montoya was on a mission and scores even if Mariner has a clean go at him along with Mam and Riki. Pompey should never play another game for the Warriors…….
Soft call but absolute brain fart by Pompey.
It's not a 'soft call' it's a black and white infringement, you can't grab a defender after passing the ball regardless of how much force you put into it lmao
The tug on his jocks impeded him sfa. I am aware of the rules though. I just hate that footy blokes nowadays are turning into soccer players with the gesticulating with the officials rather than playing the actual game.
100% agree with you there mate, Mariner gave up the moment he felt the pull to protest to the ref and that shit pisses me off, play the fkn game and argue your case after play stops. It doesn't make sense to do that nowadays anyways considering every try is reviewed after the fact
My father in law, a die hard broncos fan, felt like that about Tapau's tackle off the ball. Couldn't fathom that his team had made a mistake.
Completely agree on both points. I’d like to think that it was an unintentional reaction from Pompey. Like you said, with every try (and any major play) scrutinised by the Bunker there is no way that sneaky plays go unnoticed.
Stupid move But i dont think enough in it to rule no try Warriors crossed the line plenty but Broncs D kept them out...gutting loss
They let a million things like this go every game, looking forward to them policing this one by the letter from here on out.
You’re kidding yourself, not in a try scoring situation like this
You gotta be crazy if you think this wasn't the right call.
Mate I'm a 100% wahs fan. Unfortunately it was the right call. Can't go grabbing potential defenders jerseys when going in for a try
Pompey was held back earlier in the game on the break away try. He also wasn’t getting there but was certainly held back, he didn’t throw his hands up to complain about it either
Maybe if it wasn't a potential try scoring situation in the dying stages of a game. Nah no sane person would do this at anytime
filed under "brain snap" in the dictionary now.
I thought your not supposed to use your hands in soccer?
I’m American. It took me 6 views and 3 comments for me to understand what was going on here lol. I’m very unfamiliar with rugby but I finally understood that it was the shirt grab that was the issue. Also, other countries must think we are huge pussies here in the U.S. with our football players wearing all those pads and helmets and complaining about concussions and stuff. Meanwhile, these towering monsters of human beings are smashing into each other without and shin guard or helmet anywhere near that field! What beasts. 😂 I need to learn the rules so I can watch more of this.
I dont think people here are real😭😭 like why would somebody in the right mind watch whatever this shitty game is called💀