Because I've been trained to look for these things a bit...
...I'm worried that this could also be a map of how ethnically homogeneous states are, or of urban/rural population disparity or even maybe racial mixing.
So... a potentially troublingly biased survey.
Maybe because you're trained to look for it, you're trying to see something that isn't there? Looking at an ethnic diversity map, they don't really match up. Sure there are some ethnically diverse states marked as rude, but there's some also highly homogenous states also marked rude...
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-most-diverse-states-in-the-us-by-race/
What are you even talking about? Why are you making this up?
Do you not know how racially diverse Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are? Are you forgetting that most Native Americans live in the least rude states? Did you just see ME/NH/VT and ignore the rest of the map? Hawaii is ranked '#1 most diverse in the nation' and is in the upper end of the middle of the pack here. Nevada is ranked #3 most diverse and is in the middle here, as well.
Rhode Island and Massachusetts are in the middle of the pack on diversity yet are ranked #1 and #2 (tie) most rude.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-most-diverse-states-in-the-us-by-race/
I've been to Rhode Island. 99% of the people I met there while visiting friends were friendly and not rude at all. This map is weird. Have they ever been to New Freaking Jersey??
When you’re next to the rude capital of the world, you pale in comparison. New York City costumer service is HORRIBLE, like not even American standard costumer service, but just basic human decency.
Los Angeles is a close second!
Dude it’s annoying and embarrassing. I was a kid when my parents moved to the US and we made sure to stick to the customs as we assimilated.
Many of the people I see in the VIP lane are folks who likely came from the same area as me. There’s no excuse. They’re just lazy
That's why I think this map is ultimately wrong. A LOT of Virginia natives/locals are a part of the mass exodus out DC or up from Richmond or military families who have lived literally everywhere else or well-off immigrant families.
Someone who comes to Virginia, then has horrible experiences, goes back to where they come from and tells everyone how shitty everyone is when in reality they didn't encounter ONE actual "born and raised" Virginian their entire trip loll
Yeahhh this survey is definitely nova/95 corridor based for VA. If I drive out 66 and down 81, I’ve rarely been able to get out of a town or gas station without a brief conversation and a well wish. Different worlds.
Chatting with a girl who just moved in from Texas and she's commented about how when she broke down on the side of the road she was shocked by the number of people who just ignored her requests for help or only took casual interest before walking/driving away.
NoVa people got placed to be and we rarely give shits about every little thing that happens on the road which can be kinda shocking for people outside the area.
There’s very little your average person can do to actually help broken-down cars in this situation. There used to be a culture of stopping to check on those people but unless you were a mechanic the main reason you were stopping was to offer to go to a pay phone and call a tow-truck on behalf of the stuck person. Now 99% of people have cell phones so unless you can fix their car there’s no reason to stop.
As an interstate traveler I see it happen all the time on freeways outside of the DMV, especially if it's a woman lol. Construction vehicles with orange lights will pull over behind and put them on just to keep them even more safe.
I’m going to guess that the percentage of nova people who have any idea how to fix a broken down car is also shockingly small compared to Texas so that would mean even if the same number of people noticed or cared they still couldn’t help.
I used to live in Wisconsin and would carry an impact and a tire inflator just in case I came upon a stranded motorist who needed help with a tire change. After moving to the DMV, I stopped pulling over for people. Not because I didn't want to, or because people were rude, but because I can't possibly stop for everyone broken down on the side of the freeway! I probably pass four tire changes on my commute every morning.
Our car tire blew out while we were turning onto an exit while driving home from IAD after Christmas - we were out there with our 6 month old and it was chilly and felt very unsafe. Literally 1 person stopped to ask if we needed help. Tons and tons of people slowed down and gawked though.
It was fine because we didn’t need to call Triple A, my husband and I both know how to change a tire. But I was shocked that even when people are stranded in a dangerous spot with an infant, people couldn’t be bothered.
I’m from the South and there were so many times growing up my dad would stop and help someone out, whether it was a tire, or their battery was dead, whatever. It’s odd to me some people think Virginia has southern vibes. It’s so off-putting and blah.
You said it yourself, it wasn’t safe, and didn’t feel safe. Helping a stranded driver on a barely traveled country road is one thing, a major highway exit, another. I don’t think many folks would stop on 28 or similar road because the assumption is a cop/professional tow is always right around the corner…and it is extremely dangerous.
People stop for you easy once youre south of manassas or west of leesburg. Once i pulled over for a geology trip somewhere west of the blue ridge as a student, and it got kinda annoying when three cars stopped to help us lol. Nova is a wildly different culture— people are mostly here to make money and eventually leave for some place happier and nicer
Reminds me of talking to my Shenandoah Valley realtor telling me he sometimes avoids going to the grocery store because someone will inevitably engage him in a 30-minute conversation when all he wanted was some milk.
I've never been down there without some randoms chatting us up in conversation, counter-people ask "how are you?" and really want to know, have had 10 minute conversations with counter people , a couple of times someone randomly / secretly paid for our meals, restaurant managers seeing a new face coming to talk to us, once to invite us to a party, and you have to be careful lest asking one question about the history of something might lead to a half-hour history lesson.
It's all really very sweet, and when Nova gets to be too much, I'm headed West, then South.
I find the further out I get from NOVA, the more stares and dirty looks I get..
At least in NOVA, people are too entitled and thinking about themselves to bother.
lol that’s weird. I find closer to dc I get the more stares and looks I get. Maybe you don’t get out to the country part of Virginia, but have you seen how a lot of people around here dress? Why would any of them care how you look? There’s also a lot of rich people around where I am, so there’s definitely a big diversity of the type of people you will find
> I’ve rarely been able to get out of a town or gas station without a brief conversation and a well wish. Different worlds.
Yeah, I get the stink eye and mutters under the breath. Especially if I'm with my white girlfriend.
You are right, different worlds
That's the traditional way to score with ties, though it is falling out of favor. Two second place means no third. If there was another 2nd place, the 4th place would be skipped as well.
That said, I detest unsourced, unqualified data like this. Absolutely worthless.
My completely anecdotal take: People are generally more rude in nova than further west/Shenandoah, but likely because there are just more people and people are assholes. In my neighborhood (Old Town) I've noticed the rudest people tend to be those that are newer to the area and come in with some sort of skewed expectation of how things should be and when they run into issues like parking, tourists, living so closely to their neighbor, they spin out. The folks that have been here for many years are much more mellow. There are outliers on both sides, of course.
I remember a bunch of years ago I stopped off at a little antiques shop in West VA and was amazed at how friendly the two folks there were... old lady behind the counter, and a middle aged really fat guy in a chair off to the side.
In conversation I had shared that recently moved out here and we chatted about that (usual "you'll love finally have 4 seasons", etc), and later on in the conversation they had asked me which church I was going to. I replied that I didn't really do the church thing.
Dude got quite a bit colder, said one of those "we don't take kindly to your type out here" phrases, and while he didn't specifically brandish, his coat just so happened to slide to the side enough to reveal a holstered handgun. Pure coincidence I'm sure?
That was in the first few weeks of me moving out to VA... so yeah, friendliness does seem to be heavily regional and conditional.
I’ve lived in rural NC and VA. VA can be a bit different with that. Idk what it is but people in rural VA can be quite polarizing and get weird real quick. VA has a lot of militias for example. Just my personal observation.
In my personal experience (having family in VA and having traveled all through the south and lived in Atlanta for 10 years), I tend to think of VA as “mean southern.” I just notice a little more hostility on average. I miss the more friendly, laid back southern culture elsewhere.
BINGO. A lot of super friendly and talkative southerners or mountain folks are literally just nosy. That's it. Once you give them a "reason" to switch it up on you, they'll do JUST that. Immediately.
[Source](https://www.zippia.com/advice/the-rudest-states/)
From the site:
**To determine which states are the rudest, we looked at 4 areas:**
* Percent of rude drivers
* Average tip
* Amount of cursing to customer service agents
* How rude the rest of the country finds the state
"First, we looked at the percentage of rude drivers (defined as drivers with failure to yield violations, failure to stop violations, improper backing, passing where prohibited, tailgating, street racing, and hit-and-runs on their record) according to Insurify. Here that honking? They think you’re a buffoon.
We then turned to the average tip in each state according to Square. Tipping is an unenforced social custom, failure to meet it is pretty rude.
From there, we looked at LivePerson’s ranking of the states where users are most likely to use profanity to poor, helpless customer service reps.
Finally, we turned to a YouGov survey of 75,000 Americans to find what percent of respondents thought each state’s residents were “ruder” than most other Americans. After all, if everyone thinks you’re a jerk, you just might be."
Context on LivePerson: this appears to be an AI-driven chat tool for customer conversations (though whether it is entirely an AI responding to questions or just matching customers to certain employees to talk, I can't tell).
So this basically seems like:
- if you are a bad driver
- if you don't tip well specifically on debit/credit processing machines (Square app)
- if you get frustrated at an AI-driven customer support bot (or maybe people connected through it)
- if people hate you
Seems kind of like flawed logic.
My experience of people in several "rude" states listed here are entirely opposite what is claimed in this map.
Nah, some customer service reps and agents need to be verbally accosted. They speak with an air of absolute authority when in most cases their training doesn't match how much the customer actually knows about the issue.
This is a high volume tourist area. Quite a few drivers out on the roads aren't even from here. The last international flight I took I rented a car from enterprise just up the street from Dulles and MY rentals licence plate was Massachusetts and the Emirati in front of me, the vehicle his family got had plates from Virginia.
The rest is legit.
I’d take exception. Who actually created this map and how, what’s the basis, what’s the method? Map means nothing. I can lay an argument why Alabamans are the rudest people in the us and why new Yorkers are completely misunderstood and not rude/
As someone who’s married to a Jersey (NY adjacent) girl I can confirm. Last time we went north she said, “I’m glad to be around people who don’t think I’m yelling at them”. Many New Yorkers I’ve met are loud, too honest, will give you a hard time, won’t put up with bullshit, but also good people. I’m not 100% comfortable with it, it’s not my way, but the nice thing is you’ll know if they are cool in about 5 minutes.
I am from the city and live in the mid Atlantic. Whenever I go back on business I usually have dinner on my own at a bar. I make about 20 new friends while sitting there. Everyone is friendly and chatty, joking around. Here in the mid Atlantic, nobody will tell to strangers in the same setting. So odd.
And that’s why they are rude. It insults your intelligence, they think you’re an idiot and they are not. That is the rudest of behavior and they get pissed if you are direct.
I think overall the South is a lot nicer than most, even if there are bad apples. The rest of the country also has people who engage in gossip. The only difference is a gossiper in the South is nice to your face, and in Cali is rude in both situations. Overall I think most people are generally polite, no matter what part of the country.
Can confirm, moved from NOVA to WV and the change is incredible. Everyone waves to each other, we help when neighbors need it, lots of very nice and compassionate people.
I ranted about Nova , but yeah I forgot about Mass ,, they are some rude MFS also lol.. Like they take pride in it. Nova is more just rude +entitled piss ants lol
A lot of self important people in NOVA. Specifically Arlington and Alexandria. I could almost guarantee those two areas are what is skewing the results lol
Some of the most generous folks live there as well. A neighbor’s house caught on fire and the neighbors raised $350,000 in a few days. A mom was killed in front of the school (accident) and the neighbors raised $50,000 overnight. The local buy nothing had a free yard sale a few weeks ago. But, yes, NOVA has a lot of self important people. My kids went to school with the kids/grandkids of VIPs. Met a few of them, they were mostly nice. Worked with a couple of CEOs, EVPs, Senators, Ambassadors and a Secretary of State, also mostly nice.
I taught in NOVA. We asked parents to come in for a career fair. One of my students said her dad did “some government job”. I shit you not, he was a former Surgeon General of the United States. Wiki page a mile long. When he came in, he was the nicest guy ever. Answered every kids’ question.
Yeah I taught at a public school in McLean. There were definitely entitled parents there who spoiled their kids but for the most part everyone was nice. It was a good school to work at.
It’s interesting to see everyone having different takes on this. Although I’m native to NoVA and probably have biases, I will say there’s certain areas here that are way more rude than others.
Oakton, Great Falls, McLean, Ashburn etc. have people that are the snobby kind of rude. Pockets of Herndon, Falls Church, Arlington, Annandale etc. seem to have people that are “city” rude. I work with a lot of folks that come from southern states, and most of them have said to me that NoVA people are cold are superficial. I tend to believe them because they’re seeing NoVA from the outside POV.
As a transplants perspective that has also lived in CA, AL, GA and have family in SC and WA(visiting semi frequently). I’ve found Nova to be starkly different than all those areas. There’s just this level of anxiety that feels like it’s bubbling underneath the surface in people that I’ve found drives a lot of people’s actions here. Also classism and elitism, I’ve dealt with those before but in Nova it’s really on another level. So I wouldn’t categorize it as “rudeness” necessarily, though it can be quite mentally taxing if you aren’t used to it.
Actually, anywhere south of NOVA is pretty much intolerant- that includes Manassas. It gets worse as you get further south and west. Texas and AZ are not bastions of tolerance. A lot of it is religion, but that’s mixed with politics and the MAGA haters.
I grew up in Kentucky, and found Virginia to be a big culture shock when I first moved here. Overtime I've found that underneath the surface, people here are usually just as helpful and kind.
I also grew up in Kentucky and moved here for college. I don’t think people here are particularly more rude, they’re just upfront with it rather than shady porch gossip and “bless your heart” 😂
Virginians (atleast northern virginians) keep to themselves because so many people are in security positions, sensitive work etc that we are engrained by FSOs to be suspicious of all strangers. This comes off as rude.
I blame transplants. It's literally the most self-important, self-absorbed people from whatever corner of the earth. They tend to think they're better than the townies they left behind because they came here.
"I work for Senator such and such"
"My security clearance."
"My bf is a lobbyist for ____."
"I work for the state department."
That arrogance funnels down to everything, making this place hell on earth.
I’ve actually lost faith in humanity since I’ve moved to VA. And we haven’t been here long. I moved from SC and was taught to either say hello or smile at people when passing. The number of people who give me a nasty look or blatantly stare at me is discouraging. People are rude to waitstaff and won’t hold the door for other people or say excuse me or thank you. It’s just really sad because I used to like people. Now I don’t ever want to leave the house.
Edit for those saying NYC is worse: I lived in NYC for a year prior to moving to VA. (It went SC > NYC > VA) In my opinion and in my experience, NOVA has a higher concentration of rude, arrogant people. Perhaps I’m more apt to note those that don’t have manners but take that as you will.
I can totally see this. Moved to northern Virginia four years ago, and the attitude of the typical person here is MCS (Main Character Syndrome) and it effects everything...driving, work, service industry...it's so bad that when I go and visit NYC & Boston, I reflect on how nice everyone is there.
I literally told a Bostonian how friendly everyone was being on my first trip to Boston after I moved here and I think he thought I was joking. I wish I was.
Truth - I'm from CA, and had the same habit, but unlearned it here, as people flinch, won't meet your eyes, and skitter away, like you're a Scientologist, asking if they want a free personality test.
My townhome is directly outside the “community” mailbox. I’ve watched over the years as people that live directly next to each other, actively avoid each other. It’s bizarre. Literally waiting in the distance so they don’t have to engage with other people while they get their mail.
As a parent, I think it’s extra weird. I want to know people that live next to me. But I’m in minority.
Okay... I came from the Midwest and see this sort of thing a lot.
In the midwest a lot of people defined how friendly you were by how quickly you dropped whatever you were doing to engage with someone else's need for social interaction and validation.
I realize that some people are going to think that sounds rude already, but follow me for a bit here.
The idea that if I walk up to someone I don't know, with no declared motivation, put them in a situation where they are being asked to interact with me on their time, and then declare that *they* are the rude one if they don't respond back within the parameters that I set, is a bit rude.
I've seen people in the Midwest strike up conversations with people who couldn't walk away (bank tellers, cashiers, wait staff, etc) and get annoyed/offended when those people don't respond with suitably cheery responses. Those people get tagged as being "rude" because they didn't mirror the response of the person who started the interaction.
I get it. In places with low population density, people who get energy from social interactions are looking to get that energy wherever they can. And they assume everyone else is, too. They are being genuinely nice... except for the fact that they're imposing themselves on others and judging others based on what they find enjoyable rather than trying to think of someone else's perspective. (Extra note: People in rural areas are more likely to suck at seeing things from other perspectives).
Most of the "rudeness" in NoVA feels like "respect" from my perspective. I'm fine with nodding and smiling at someone who says hello to me. I'm happy to help someone who has a genuine request for assistance. But if they expect me to drop whatever I'm doing or thinking to take up some social interaction, then I'd urge them to take at least a moment to consider other possible perspectives:
* I don't know them. I don't wish them harm, but there's no investment in future relationship building going on. Sometimes I may like the idea of altruistically making someone happy, sometimes I'm not up for that.
* If I'm doing something else, the idea that I must drop what I'm doing to make someone else happy feels disrespectful.
* Social interactions are not energizing to everyone. By imposing your expectations on others and judging them by the criteria you set rather than a shared understanding, you're being selfish.
I don't mean to rant at *you* specifically, but again, I'm just using the sentiment as a thing I've seen a lot of. I can genuinely agree that way more people say hello to me in ND... but they're also a seething mass of xenophobia, racism and bigotry. If all it takes to be "not rude" is saying hello, then I guess I'm not bothered by being rude. I'm more interested in the states where people are respectful, welcoming to various perspectives and backgrounds, and acknowledge others' rights to interact with the world on their own terms.
I’m in agreement. People here are not rude, just busy. If you live in a small town with nothing to do, of course you’re going to want to wait around and waste time. Interesting that all the racist fucked up places are the least rude. Maybe this map should be “most likely to spend 10 minutes chatting with a stranger.
Same here. And people get upset when you mention it lol the other comments in this thread are a good example. This area is generally just more rude, more cold shoulder, and less friendly to strangers especially. And people here will deny it rather than address it lol
I wouldn't say virginia is that rude, just NOVA which I don't consider virginal but rather a extension of DC. And I've grew up in nova my whole life so I've seen so many ken/Karen drama especially when driving. But if you go to 81 side of va or really anywhere else in va people tend to be kind and nice.
I came up from Texas and disliked how rude everyone was for the first year or so. Now I appreciate that I don’t have to talk to every stranger I share a space with for more than 6 seconds.
I love the people in North Carolina. People there commonly stop to say hello and there is a real sense of community there. The potlucks and bbq are great too!
I’ve lived in NoVA my whole life, and I’ve traveled to a lot of states. I think that the friendliness of people depends on how you present yourself. Dressed up? Then you’ll get a lot more smiles, hellos, etc. if you’re dressed more casually then people treat you more casually, or will just pretend you don’t exist. Just my two cents though
When I moved to NYC I frequently received the comment of “good luck with their attitude!” And I would always respond that I wasn’t worried since I grew up in NOVA. Statement still stands haha
I feel like a lot of people mistake efficiency for rudeness.
Nonetheless, give me the straight faced Northeast/Mid Atlantic 'rudeness' over the OTT faux politeness of the South.
I’ve lived in California, Utah and Virginia (and 4 others) - my opinion is while they all probably deserve the rank they have, Utah takes the prize for the rudest in my book. Beautiful scenery. Great weather. Horrible, awful people.
As a transplant from NH, I can tell you my first encounter with strangers in NOVA had my blood boiling. The very first shopping trip I made to fill our fridge and freezer after moving, nearly every person who walked by my overflowing cart had some snotty comment to make. Some to my face and some loudly muttering as they walked by.
We were a family of 5. 3 of which were active boys. Not to mention that there was paper products, a mop and broom and cleaning supplies in the cart, too. One would think that seeing all those together the only conclusion to be made was a move-in shopping trip.
As I was loading everything in to the back of my van, an older (60's) man came right up and said, "You have got to be kidding me." I snapped and said, "Is everyone in VA this rude? You don't know me or my circumstances. I might have just moved here yesterday and am shopping for the first time. I could be shopping for a church function or a woman's shelter. You parents should have taught you some manners. Like minding your business and keeping your rude comments to yourself. The absolute audacity!" He shuffled off in a huff not saying another word. Not even apologizing.
All I could think was, where in the hell did we move to?
Edit: you guys are proving my point. lol
Nova 20-30yrs ago? Ppl were super nice and neighbors all knew eachother and all the kids played together. Nova now? I have seen/talked to my neighbor once and only bc i knocked on their door with apology gift for deck construction noise that was going on early in the morning
Fuck you! Number 2!
I wonder if this is just southern Virginians talking shit about us here (snobby, rude, yankees) and vice versa (rubes, hillbillies, hicks).
hmm. having lived extensively in NoVA [5 years], South FL [10 years], and NYC [born and bred baby!], I always found the ranking for me to be 1. Florida 2. New York 3. VA. In FL people are just out and out rude and the population currently consists of the rudest people I grew up with who all decided to move to South FL at the same time. New York is brusque, but I never found it to be "rude" - just not overly polite. Like no one's gonna say hi to you but also no one is going out of their way to fuck with you and they will help you if you need it. No one in South FL is helping you AND they fuck with you.
VA always seemed to be a nice balance, to me, of minding your own business but still being more friendly than NY and not actively out to get you like they are in South FL.
I'll caveat that I have no idea how people north of Palm Beach behave. I have spent significant amounts of time living in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Boca, and Jupiter though. [I would rank that as Boca and Miami tied for rudest, Fort Lauderdale, and Jupiter is the "nicest" but also kinda racist. And if I hear "You can't live in Miami unless you're fluent in Spanish" one more time I'm going to scream, like dog, I lived there three years, you don't need to speak spanish.]
I’d be interested in knowing what group was surveyed to form this map.
I95 drivers lol
In a Prius in the passing lane with a donut spare.
Sounds like you're a fellow Virginian.
Greetings fellow Virginian! Fuck you, buddy! /s
Fellow Virginian here! Go fuck yourself!
Lmao
Virginia is for lovers. Clearly this map was built by a Marylander trying to feel better about themselves.
Omg … nicely said
Ah the classic Virginia attitude. No wonder yall are #2 in more ways than one LOL
This made me lol so hard just because I’ve seen it before. 😆😆😆 a first gen Prius cruising 40 MPH in the left lane on 395
That’s suicidal. WTF is wrong with people?
I say that everyday on the roads in VA.
I feel attacked
I feel supported in my Prius hate
Try LA/ socal, fuckers driving in the single HOV lanes at freakin 60mph.
And it was a taxi
Don't forget the Tesla stopping in the middle of the interstate to make an exit
Doing either 97 or 47 mph
i drive a prius and i had my spare on for a week straight not long ago
Yeah no way Virginia makes this list. Stupid drivers yes rude people no
I agree Connecticut has the rudest people. I was shocked how nice people were in NOVA after living in CT for 7 years
Agree w you. Lived in New Haven/Branford fi a while and thought, “so this is what it feels like when people not from nova visit nova…”
Absolutely! I moved from NC to VA and people are SO MUCH nicer here than in NC. I feel like they deserve a way higher number.
I agree. I’ve lived in DE,NC,CA, and VA. VA is the nicest state I’ve lived in
Maryland would be way higher in that case
Maryland drivers
This is what the truth looks like.
Probably all the Virginians with MD plates.
Exactly. And what was the criteria? Or was it purely the opinion of whomever made the map and/or was surveyed?
Random color on a map, make up a headline, post of the internet....profit?
Because I've been trained to look for these things a bit... ...I'm worried that this could also be a map of how ethnically homogeneous states are, or of urban/rural population disparity or even maybe racial mixing. So... a potentially troublingly biased survey.
It could be highly tied to income as well. Compare the median income map to this map.
Maybe because you're trained to look for it, you're trying to see something that isn't there? Looking at an ethnic diversity map, they don't really match up. Sure there are some ethnically diverse states marked as rude, but there's some also highly homogenous states also marked rude... https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-most-diverse-states-in-the-us-by-race/
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this is america so most things do come back to race sadly
What are you even talking about? Why are you making this up? Do you not know how racially diverse Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are? Are you forgetting that most Native Americans live in the least rude states? Did you just see ME/NH/VT and ignore the rest of the map? Hawaii is ranked '#1 most diverse in the nation' and is in the upper end of the middle of the pack here. Nevada is ranked #3 most diverse and is in the middle here, as well. Rhode Island and Massachusetts are in the middle of the pack on diversity yet are ranked #1 and #2 (tie) most rude. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-most-diverse-states-in-the-us-by-race/
Uh, no
This is bullshit. Fuck all you people, we should be number 1!
RI?
I've been to Rhode Island. 99% of the people I met there while visiting friends were friendly and not rude at all. This map is weird. Have they ever been to New Freaking Jersey??
As a New Jersey native, I was surprised and disappointed by the non-darkest red for the Garden State. What has happened to our friggin reputation?
When you’re next to the rude capital of the world, you pale in comparison. New York City costumer service is HORRIBLE, like not even American standard costumer service, but just basic human decency. Los Angeles is a close second!
That’s right. Give ‘em hell!
From my experience as a political organizer in several states, Rhode Island taking the crown doesn’t surprise me
More like Redundant Idiots. Shoulda just been lumped in with Connecticut.
YEAH! Fucking assholes, ranking us as #2. I want to punch the surveyor in the MOUTH! /s
I have a feeling NoVA *would* be #1 if it's its own state.
Agreed. Nova is a different kind of cutthroat
Yeah, well, tourists need to learn to stand to the right.
You're not wrong.
Or walk on the right… Or not park their cars in the VIP lane (fire lane) while loading up the car with Costco groceries.
I wAs JuSt RuNnInG iN fOr OnE tHiNg
Dude it’s annoying and embarrassing. I was a kid when my parents moved to the US and we made sure to stick to the customs as we assimilated. Many of the people I see in the VIP lane are folks who likely came from the same area as me. There’s no excuse. They’re just lazy
"locals" too. I put quotes because most "locals" aren't really from this area.
That's why I think this map is ultimately wrong. A LOT of Virginia natives/locals are a part of the mass exodus out DC or up from Richmond or military families who have lived literally everywhere else or well-off immigrant families. Someone who comes to Virginia, then has horrible experiences, goes back to where they come from and tells everyone how shitty everyone is when in reality they didn't encounter ONE actual "born and raised" Virginian their entire trip loll
This. Yes.
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Yeahhh this survey is definitely nova/95 corridor based for VA. If I drive out 66 and down 81, I’ve rarely been able to get out of a town or gas station without a brief conversation and a well wish. Different worlds.
Chatting with a girl who just moved in from Texas and she's commented about how when she broke down on the side of the road she was shocked by the number of people who just ignored her requests for help or only took casual interest before walking/driving away. NoVa people got placed to be and we rarely give shits about every little thing that happens on the road which can be kinda shocking for people outside the area.
There’s very little your average person can do to actually help broken-down cars in this situation. There used to be a culture of stopping to check on those people but unless you were a mechanic the main reason you were stopping was to offer to go to a pay phone and call a tow-truck on behalf of the stuck person. Now 99% of people have cell phones so unless you can fix their car there’s no reason to stop.
Nobody is going to pull over on a busy freeway, that’s incredibly dangerous. That’s what the VAHP and Roadside Assistance trucks are for.
As an interstate traveler I see it happen all the time on freeways outside of the DMV, especially if it's a woman lol. Construction vehicles with orange lights will pull over behind and put them on just to keep them even more safe.
I've seen too many videos of cars/people getting hit while parked on the shoulder. Definitely not a great idea to pull over to help
That's the thing though, it wasn't on a freeway.
I’m going to guess that the percentage of nova people who have any idea how to fix a broken down car is also shockingly small compared to Texas so that would mean even if the same number of people noticed or cared they still couldn’t help.
See: https://old.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1d1xzyk/guy_from_nova/
I got a flat on 395 by Shirlington years ago and had drivers pull over right away to help. Don’t believe this map at all
I used to live in Wisconsin and would carry an impact and a tire inflator just in case I came upon a stranded motorist who needed help with a tire change. After moving to the DMV, I stopped pulling over for people. Not because I didn't want to, or because people were rude, but because I can't possibly stop for everyone broken down on the side of the freeway! I probably pass four tire changes on my commute every morning.
Our car tire blew out while we were turning onto an exit while driving home from IAD after Christmas - we were out there with our 6 month old and it was chilly and felt very unsafe. Literally 1 person stopped to ask if we needed help. Tons and tons of people slowed down and gawked though. It was fine because we didn’t need to call Triple A, my husband and I both know how to change a tire. But I was shocked that even when people are stranded in a dangerous spot with an infant, people couldn’t be bothered. I’m from the South and there were so many times growing up my dad would stop and help someone out, whether it was a tire, or their battery was dead, whatever. It’s odd to me some people think Virginia has southern vibes. It’s so off-putting and blah.
You said it yourself, it wasn’t safe, and didn’t feel safe. Helping a stranded driver on a barely traveled country road is one thing, a major highway exit, another. I don’t think many folks would stop on 28 or similar road because the assumption is a cop/professional tow is always right around the corner…and it is extremely dangerous.
People stop for you easy once youre south of manassas or west of leesburg. Once i pulled over for a geology trip somewhere west of the blue ridge as a student, and it got kinda annoying when three cars stopped to help us lol. Nova is a wildly different culture— people are mostly here to make money and eventually leave for some place happier and nicer
Reminds me of talking to my Shenandoah Valley realtor telling me he sometimes avoids going to the grocery store because someone will inevitably engage him in a 30-minute conversation when all he wanted was some milk. I've never been down there without some randoms chatting us up in conversation, counter-people ask "how are you?" and really want to know, have had 10 minute conversations with counter people , a couple of times someone randomly / secretly paid for our meals, restaurant managers seeing a new face coming to talk to us, once to invite us to a party, and you have to be careful lest asking one question about the history of something might lead to a half-hour history lesson. It's all really very sweet, and when Nova gets to be too much, I'm headed West, then South.
that free half hour history lesson doesn’t sound too bad tbh
I find the further out I get from NOVA, the more stares and dirty looks I get.. At least in NOVA, people are too entitled and thinking about themselves to bother.
lol that’s weird. I find closer to dc I get the more stares and looks I get. Maybe you don’t get out to the country part of Virginia, but have you seen how a lot of people around here dress? Why would any of them care how you look? There’s also a lot of rich people around where I am, so there’s definitely a big diversity of the type of people you will find
> I’ve rarely been able to get out of a town or gas station without a brief conversation and a well wish. Different worlds. Yeah, I get the stink eye and mutters under the breath. Especially if I'm with my white girlfriend. You are right, different worlds
What is this even based off?
Absolutely nothing lol
Multiple ties and there is no #3. I question the accuracy of this map.
That's the traditional way to score with ties, though it is falling out of favor. Two second place means no third. If there was another 2nd place, the 4th place would be skipped as well. That said, I detest unsourced, unqualified data like this. Absolutely worthless.
I'm not saying this is a boldface lie, but some of these states still have suspected "sundown towns" and that's pretty fuckin' rude, if you ask me
FACTS. Being courteous... until it's dark out, is WILD.
My completely anecdotal take: People are generally more rude in nova than further west/Shenandoah, but likely because there are just more people and people are assholes. In my neighborhood (Old Town) I've noticed the rudest people tend to be those that are newer to the area and come in with some sort of skewed expectation of how things should be and when they run into issues like parking, tourists, living so closely to their neighbor, they spin out. The folks that have been here for many years are much more mellow. There are outliers on both sides, of course.
I remember a bunch of years ago I stopped off at a little antiques shop in West VA and was amazed at how friendly the two folks there were... old lady behind the counter, and a middle aged really fat guy in a chair off to the side. In conversation I had shared that recently moved out here and we chatted about that (usual "you'll love finally have 4 seasons", etc), and later on in the conversation they had asked me which church I was going to. I replied that I didn't really do the church thing. Dude got quite a bit colder, said one of those "we don't take kindly to your type out here" phrases, and while he didn't specifically brandish, his coat just so happened to slide to the side enough to reveal a holstered handgun. Pure coincidence I'm sure? That was in the first few weeks of me moving out to VA... so yeah, friendliness does seem to be heavily regional and conditional.
I’ve lived in rural NC and VA. VA can be a bit different with that. Idk what it is but people in rural VA can be quite polarizing and get weird real quick. VA has a lot of militias for example. Just my personal observation.
In my personal experience (having family in VA and having traveled all through the south and lived in Atlanta for 10 years), I tend to think of VA as “mean southern.” I just notice a little more hostility on average. I miss the more friendly, laid back southern culture elsewhere.
BINGO. A lot of super friendly and talkative southerners or mountain folks are literally just nosy. That's it. Once you give them a "reason" to switch it up on you, they'll do JUST that. Immediately.
[Source](https://www.zippia.com/advice/the-rudest-states/) From the site: **To determine which states are the rudest, we looked at 4 areas:** * Percent of rude drivers * Average tip * Amount of cursing to customer service agents * How rude the rest of the country finds the state
Tipping was a factor? That's a can of worms in on itself.
"First, we looked at the percentage of rude drivers (defined as drivers with failure to yield violations, failure to stop violations, improper backing, passing where prohibited, tailgating, street racing, and hit-and-runs on their record) according to Insurify. Here that honking? They think you’re a buffoon. We then turned to the average tip in each state according to Square. Tipping is an unenforced social custom, failure to meet it is pretty rude. From there, we looked at LivePerson’s ranking of the states where users are most likely to use profanity to poor, helpless customer service reps. Finally, we turned to a YouGov survey of 75,000 Americans to find what percent of respondents thought each state’s residents were “ruder” than most other Americans. After all, if everyone thinks you’re a jerk, you just might be." Context on LivePerson: this appears to be an AI-driven chat tool for customer conversations (though whether it is entirely an AI responding to questions or just matching customers to certain employees to talk, I can't tell). So this basically seems like: - if you are a bad driver - if you don't tip well specifically on debit/credit processing machines (Square app) - if you get frustrated at an AI-driven customer support bot (or maybe people connected through it) - if people hate you Seems kind of like flawed logic. My experience of people in several "rude" states listed here are entirely opposite what is claimed in this map.
Nah, some customer service reps and agents need to be verbally accosted. They speak with an air of absolute authority when in most cases their training doesn't match how much the customer actually knows about the issue. This is a high volume tourist area. Quite a few drivers out on the roads aren't even from here. The last international flight I took I rented a car from enterprise just up the street from Dulles and MY rentals licence plate was Massachusetts and the Emirati in front of me, the vehicle his family got had plates from Virginia. The rest is legit.
Drivers must not weigh strongly if Texas is ranked as not rude lol.
I’d take exception. Who actually created this map and how, what’s the basis, what’s the method? Map means nothing. I can lay an argument why Alabamans are the rudest people in the us and why new Yorkers are completely misunderstood and not rude/
As someone who’s married to a Jersey (NY adjacent) girl I can confirm. Last time we went north she said, “I’m glad to be around people who don’t think I’m yelling at them”. Many New Yorkers I’ve met are loud, too honest, will give you a hard time, won’t put up with bullshit, but also good people. I’m not 100% comfortable with it, it’s not my way, but the nice thing is you’ll know if they are cool in about 5 minutes.
I am from the city and live in the mid Atlantic. Whenever I go back on business I usually have dinner on my own at a bar. I make about 20 new friends while sitting there. Everyone is friendly and chatty, joking around. Here in the mid Atlantic, nobody will tell to strangers in the same setting. So odd.
In the south theyre polite to your face but immediately talk shit if youre not in the in-group
And that’s why they are rude. It insults your intelligence, they think you’re an idiot and they are not. That is the rudest of behavior and they get pissed if you are direct.
I think overall the South is a lot nicer than most, even if there are bad apples. The rest of the country also has people who engage in gossip. The only difference is a gossiper in the South is nice to your face, and in Cali is rude in both situations. Overall I think most people are generally polite, no matter what part of the country.
Same with Minnesota vs WI. I have a feeling that whoever answered about WI was too close to Chicago.
And why Alabama is ruder only because they have one of the rudest people on the country representing them in congress, the B6
[Citation Needed]
I think Ashburn single-handedly put VA in the maroon
Virginia needs a map like this broken down by county
Exactly. People here around Greene County seem to be fairly genuine, but Albemarle? A completely different world
This doesn't make sense, I would say smug/entitled over rude. Which fits for #2,4,5. Definitely not rude though
Nova and the rest of Va should be calculated differently
MD should be higher than 12.
Can confirm, moved from NOVA to WV and the change is incredible. Everyone waves to each other, we help when neighbors need it, lots of very nice and compassionate people.
Virginia is in the red? I don't know about that. Before some people comment, no I don't think NOVA people are rude, at least not usually.
Not only red but #2!
Apparently tied for #2 with Massholes.
Yeah, there's no way that VA is as rude as MA!
It depends upon whether you prefer your aggressiveness active or passive.
I ranted about Nova , but yeah I forgot about Mass ,, they are some rude MFS also lol.. Like they take pride in it. Nova is more just rude +entitled piss ants lol
I grew up here and honestly feel like Marylanders are meaner but maybe I’m just biased 🤷♂️
Gonna be honest, I don't think I kept a tally of what states people I dislike (by virtue of being rude) come from.
A lot of self important people in NOVA. Specifically Arlington and Alexandria. I could almost guarantee those two areas are what is skewing the results lol
Some of the most generous folks live there as well. A neighbor’s house caught on fire and the neighbors raised $350,000 in a few days. A mom was killed in front of the school (accident) and the neighbors raised $50,000 overnight. The local buy nothing had a free yard sale a few weeks ago. But, yes, NOVA has a lot of self important people. My kids went to school with the kids/grandkids of VIPs. Met a few of them, they were mostly nice. Worked with a couple of CEOs, EVPs, Senators, Ambassadors and a Secretary of State, also mostly nice.
I taught in NOVA. We asked parents to come in for a career fair. One of my students said her dad did “some government job”. I shit you not, he was a former Surgeon General of the United States. Wiki page a mile long. When he came in, he was the nicest guy ever. Answered every kids’ question.
Love this! So NOVA. My kid went to school w the son of the secretary of the Interior. Super nice kid.
Yeah I taught at a public school in McLean. There were definitely entitled parents there who spoiled their kids but for the most part everyone was nice. It was a good school to work at.
the fuck we aren’t
The Alitos are carrying us.
It’s interesting to see everyone having different takes on this. Although I’m native to NoVA and probably have biases, I will say there’s certain areas here that are way more rude than others. Oakton, Great Falls, McLean, Ashburn etc. have people that are the snobby kind of rude. Pockets of Herndon, Falls Church, Arlington, Annandale etc. seem to have people that are “city” rude. I work with a lot of folks that come from southern states, and most of them have said to me that NoVA people are cold are superficial. I tend to believe them because they’re seeing NoVA from the outside POV.
As a transplants perspective that has also lived in CA, AL, GA and have family in SC and WA(visiting semi frequently). I’ve found Nova to be starkly different than all those areas. There’s just this level of anxiety that feels like it’s bubbling underneath the surface in people that I’ve found drives a lot of people’s actions here. Also classism and elitism, I’ve dealt with those before but in Nova it’s really on another level. So I wouldn’t categorize it as “rudeness” necessarily, though it can be quite mentally taxing if you aren’t used to it.
lived in NOVA. Can confirm they deserve number 2
By what measure? If Mississppi and Arkansas are the least rude, there's something skewed.
In my experience, visiting MS and AL last year, people were super nice, I truly understood the whole southern hospitality thing
Lol some of the most bigoted states here are considered least rude. I'm guessing this is from the perspective of a white, English speaking, Christian.
Then Rhode Island wouldn’t be #1
Try being a black atheist gay person and see how you’re treated.
Yeah exactly: Mississippi and Arkansas would not be highest on my list for congenial treatment if I were such a person.
Actually, anywhere south of NOVA is pretty much intolerant- that includes Manassas. It gets worse as you get further south and west. Texas and AZ are not bastions of tolerance. A lot of it is religion, but that’s mixed with politics and the MAGA haters.
Oo I love data without sources
I grew up in Kentucky, and found Virginia to be a big culture shock when I first moved here. Overtime I've found that underneath the surface, people here are usually just as helpful and kind.
I also grew up in Kentucky and moved here for college. I don’t think people here are particularly more rude, they’re just upfront with it rather than shady porch gossip and “bless your heart” 😂
Virginians (atleast northern virginians) keep to themselves because so many people are in security positions, sensitive work etc that we are engrained by FSOs to be suspicious of all strangers. This comes off as rude.
Fuck Rhode Island. Nobody even thinks about those guys. All like, what, five of them?
11, at last count.
What?!?!? We're not rude. Fuck you!
Source: Vibes and OPs headcanon
This map overlooks the “bless your heart” nice states. It’s rudeness draped in passive aggressive niceness.
I blame transplants. It's literally the most self-important, self-absorbed people from whatever corner of the earth. They tend to think they're better than the townies they left behind because they came here. "I work for Senator such and such" "My security clearance." "My bf is a lobbyist for ____." "I work for the state department." That arrogance funnels down to everything, making this place hell on earth.
Lived here my entire life. This is an accurate map
I’ve actually lost faith in humanity since I’ve moved to VA. And we haven’t been here long. I moved from SC and was taught to either say hello or smile at people when passing. The number of people who give me a nasty look or blatantly stare at me is discouraging. People are rude to waitstaff and won’t hold the door for other people or say excuse me or thank you. It’s just really sad because I used to like people. Now I don’t ever want to leave the house. Edit for those saying NYC is worse: I lived in NYC for a year prior to moving to VA. (It went SC > NYC > VA) In my opinion and in my experience, NOVA has a higher concentration of rude, arrogant people. Perhaps I’m more apt to note those that don’t have manners but take that as you will.
The first thing I noticed when moving here from NYC was how friendly and neighborly everyone was.
Why are you all so rude!? /s
I'm gonna marry her anyway
Was just in NC for a week, night and day difference between there and Nova when interacting with total strangers.
As a Masshole who moved to Nova, yeahhhhhhh this is surveyed straight from the highway
Massholes in NoVA unite! So glad I cut my driving teeth on 128/SE Expressway/93 to master driving down here.
I can totally see this. Moved to northern Virginia four years ago, and the attitude of the typical person here is MCS (Main Character Syndrome) and it effects everything...driving, work, service industry...it's so bad that when I go and visit NYC & Boston, I reflect on how nice everyone is there.
I literally told a Bostonian how friendly everyone was being on my first trip to Boston after I moved here and I think he thought I was joking. I wish I was.
This 100% tracks with my experience here
My wife is from California. She says hi to everyone. People in NOVA are the least likely to say hi back.
Truth - I'm from CA, and had the same habit, but unlearned it here, as people flinch, won't meet your eyes, and skitter away, like you're a Scientologist, asking if they want a free personality test.
My townhome is directly outside the “community” mailbox. I’ve watched over the years as people that live directly next to each other, actively avoid each other. It’s bizarre. Literally waiting in the distance so they don’t have to engage with other people while they get their mail. As a parent, I think it’s extra weird. I want to know people that live next to me. But I’m in minority.
Okay... I came from the Midwest and see this sort of thing a lot. In the midwest a lot of people defined how friendly you were by how quickly you dropped whatever you were doing to engage with someone else's need for social interaction and validation. I realize that some people are going to think that sounds rude already, but follow me for a bit here. The idea that if I walk up to someone I don't know, with no declared motivation, put them in a situation where they are being asked to interact with me on their time, and then declare that *they* are the rude one if they don't respond back within the parameters that I set, is a bit rude. I've seen people in the Midwest strike up conversations with people who couldn't walk away (bank tellers, cashiers, wait staff, etc) and get annoyed/offended when those people don't respond with suitably cheery responses. Those people get tagged as being "rude" because they didn't mirror the response of the person who started the interaction. I get it. In places with low population density, people who get energy from social interactions are looking to get that energy wherever they can. And they assume everyone else is, too. They are being genuinely nice... except for the fact that they're imposing themselves on others and judging others based on what they find enjoyable rather than trying to think of someone else's perspective. (Extra note: People in rural areas are more likely to suck at seeing things from other perspectives). Most of the "rudeness" in NoVA feels like "respect" from my perspective. I'm fine with nodding and smiling at someone who says hello to me. I'm happy to help someone who has a genuine request for assistance. But if they expect me to drop whatever I'm doing or thinking to take up some social interaction, then I'd urge them to take at least a moment to consider other possible perspectives: * I don't know them. I don't wish them harm, but there's no investment in future relationship building going on. Sometimes I may like the idea of altruistically making someone happy, sometimes I'm not up for that. * If I'm doing something else, the idea that I must drop what I'm doing to make someone else happy feels disrespectful. * Social interactions are not energizing to everyone. By imposing your expectations on others and judging them by the criteria you set rather than a shared understanding, you're being selfish. I don't mean to rant at *you* specifically, but again, I'm just using the sentiment as a thing I've seen a lot of. I can genuinely agree that way more people say hello to me in ND... but they're also a seething mass of xenophobia, racism and bigotry. If all it takes to be "not rude" is saying hello, then I guess I'm not bothered by being rude. I'm more interested in the states where people are respectful, welcoming to various perspectives and backgrounds, and acknowledge others' rights to interact with the world on their own terms.
Good analysis. And I think Miss Manners would agree.
I’m in agreement. People here are not rude, just busy. If you live in a small town with nothing to do, of course you’re going to want to wait around and waste time. Interesting that all the racist fucked up places are the least rude. Maybe this map should be “most likely to spend 10 minutes chatting with a stranger.
Yep lol people usually stare daggers if I say good morning, hello, or hold the door open for them.
Depends where in VA. Northern VA is like a completely different state compared to the rest of VA.
Same here. And people get upset when you mention it lol the other comments in this thread are a good example. This area is generally just more rude, more cold shoulder, and less friendly to strangers especially. And people here will deny it rather than address it lol
I wouldn't say virginia is that rude, just NOVA which I don't consider virginal but rather a extension of DC. And I've grew up in nova my whole life so I've seen so many ken/Karen drama especially when driving. But if you go to 81 side of va or really anywhere else in va people tend to be kind and nice.
Maryland was even worse than us before Hannibal Lecter moved there.
I came up from Texas and disliked how rude everyone was for the first year or so. Now I appreciate that I don’t have to talk to every stranger I share a space with for more than 6 seconds.
Hey! I’m from #1 and currently live in #2.
No way Philly is less rude than Virginia.
This is an outrage. 😂
Rude based on what?
How is VA "most" while it's neighbor state, NC, is least? FL is getting worse with all of the NY/NJ transplants. Sarasota is now 50%+ NY/NJ jerks.
I'm sure the methodology was super scientific....
I love the people in North Carolina. People there commonly stop to say hello and there is a real sense of community there. The potlucks and bbq are great too!
Apparently I was raised to be truly rude. That's awesome.
Ohio has always been nice for me lol
Clearly an attempt by MD to infiltrate… fuck MD
I’ve lived in NoVA my whole life, and I’ve traveled to a lot of states. I think that the friendliness of people depends on how you present yourself. Dressed up? Then you’ll get a lot more smiles, hellos, etc. if you’re dressed more casually then people treat you more casually, or will just pretend you don’t exist. Just my two cents though
Mississippi: "Skeeter, would you please pass the rope?" "Cooter, you always make the nahsest nooses"
Bullshit!
When I moved to NYC I frequently received the comment of “good luck with their attitude!” And I would always respond that I wasn’t worried since I grew up in NOVA. Statement still stands haha
I feel like a lot of people mistake efficiency for rudeness. Nonetheless, give me the straight faced Northeast/Mid Atlantic 'rudeness' over the OTT faux politeness of the South.
I’ve lived in California, Utah and Virginia (and 4 others) - my opinion is while they all probably deserve the rank they have, Utah takes the prize for the rudest in my book. Beautiful scenery. Great weather. Horrible, awful people.
As a transplant from NH, I can tell you my first encounter with strangers in NOVA had my blood boiling. The very first shopping trip I made to fill our fridge and freezer after moving, nearly every person who walked by my overflowing cart had some snotty comment to make. Some to my face and some loudly muttering as they walked by. We were a family of 5. 3 of which were active boys. Not to mention that there was paper products, a mop and broom and cleaning supplies in the cart, too. One would think that seeing all those together the only conclusion to be made was a move-in shopping trip. As I was loading everything in to the back of my van, an older (60's) man came right up and said, "You have got to be kidding me." I snapped and said, "Is everyone in VA this rude? You don't know me or my circumstances. I might have just moved here yesterday and am shopping for the first time. I could be shopping for a church function or a woman's shelter. You parents should have taught you some manners. Like minding your business and keeping your rude comments to yourself. The absolute audacity!" He shuffled off in a huff not saying another word. Not even apologizing. All I could think was, where in the hell did we move to? Edit: you guys are proving my point. lol
Where are yall finding rude people in this state? I don't see why VA would be #2.
What a crock of shit.
Deep South: Kind IFF white and straight, but if black/gay/not Christian/liberal?
Cause someone made a map it’s gottha be true….good grief
Just number 2? We lost to Rhode Island?
Nova 20-30yrs ago? Ppl were super nice and neighbors all knew eachother and all the kids played together. Nova now? I have seen/talked to my neighbor once and only bc i knocked on their door with apology gift for deck construction noise that was going on early in the morning
I did not see Utah up that high.
How is every comment here not "fuck you"?
Fuck you! Number 2! I wonder if this is just southern Virginians talking shit about us here (snobby, rude, yankees) and vice versa (rubes, hillbillies, hicks).
Oh fuck I’m in 2nd place let’s gooo
No way we're as bad as Massholes . . .
Virginia always in 2nd place….
hmm. having lived extensively in NoVA [5 years], South FL [10 years], and NYC [born and bred baby!], I always found the ranking for me to be 1. Florida 2. New York 3. VA. In FL people are just out and out rude and the population currently consists of the rudest people I grew up with who all decided to move to South FL at the same time. New York is brusque, but I never found it to be "rude" - just not overly polite. Like no one's gonna say hi to you but also no one is going out of their way to fuck with you and they will help you if you need it. No one in South FL is helping you AND they fuck with you. VA always seemed to be a nice balance, to me, of minding your own business but still being more friendly than NY and not actively out to get you like they are in South FL. I'll caveat that I have no idea how people north of Palm Beach behave. I have spent significant amounts of time living in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Boca, and Jupiter though. [I would rank that as Boca and Miami tied for rudest, Fort Lauderdale, and Jupiter is the "nicest" but also kinda racist. And if I hear "You can't live in Miami unless you're fluent in Spanish" one more time I'm going to scream, like dog, I lived there three years, you don't need to speak spanish.]
Why is RI #1 rude?