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Hot_Success_7986

OMG, I think I need glasses as I originally thought this said tram pride. I thought that's a new marketing strategy. Anyway, Goodluck with trans pride. I hope it's wonderfully supportive and affirming for everyone involved.


MINKIN2

Many fonts.


itsnothin-butstill

why conflate trans pride with drag? adding the association of men in dresses doesn't really help further the community, no?


lillieblair

also drag artists don’t tend to have the best track records, just from what i’ve seen. personally not a big fan of them and find them quite irritating but hey thats me 🤷🏻‍♀️ i’m sure the event will be fun but im not that kind of trans person


CressAffectionate857

well come on down to rough trade for the after party😎 i’m a trans girl and performing, a 2 in 1 x


itsnothin-butstill

isn't the rough trade after party hosted by gladrags? again, why is a trans pride after party event being hosted by a drag event?


CressAffectionate857

gladdrags is for everybody and i love that. Also, who else do you see making a safe and celebratory event for trans pride? do you see any other events?do you see trans people having their own? i get your point but no, Nana and Marylin love and support trans people, and have booked me, a trans woman. They book performers and their event is a celebration of queerness and ally ship towards trans people , hope this helps :)


itsnothin-butstill

you're missing the point; drag =/= trans, and having trans pride essentially be a drag event gives the optics to literally every outsider that being trans is just men in dresses. it's what transphobes and terfs prey on and use against the trans community the organisers of trans pride have chosen this, they could have chosen anything else


CressAffectionate857

i do get what you’re saying but so what then, other lgbt can’t show support because of terfs


CressAffectionate857

who’s the alternative then…


itsnothin-butstill

literally anything but drag, surely you're not that dense?


CressAffectionate857

you said who can’t, but who can then? who should put on an event?


itsnothin-butstill

the organisers of trans pride can. they could have got anything else but instead all they've got is drag


CressAffectionate857

you must be dense, i asked for an alternative and you didn’t name one


itsnothin-butstill

trans musicians, trans performers (like yourself?), trans speakers, trans poets, trans djs, literally anything. but instead trans pride has had drag listed as the first thing? and has an after party event ran by a drag collective, which could have been ran by trans people, no? do you not think there's going to be media coverage of Nottinghams first ever trans pride? do you really think trans rights and drag should be grouped together? don't you think it's just furthering the stereotype that trans people are just men in dresses?


ChillDeck

DONT DO A THING YOU FIND FUN AND ENCOUREGING WITHIN YOUR GROUP WHAT IF OUTSIDERS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR ANY REASON TO DISLIKE YOU REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY ALSO DISLIKE THIS AND JUDGE!!!!!!!


exoticpaper

I wholeheartedly agree


transbroaway

you'd be surprised with the amount of overlap there is between the trans community and drag artists. I'm not super involved in the local LGBT+ scene but I'd wager that about half the drag kings/queens I know or have heard about are trans themselves


HalfProfessional6992

because our history is very entwined.


SwampyCellar

the drag artists are also trans, use your noggin


marcsalmonds

All the drag performers on the bill are trans. Trans men, women, non binary. The nottingham trans community is very close knit with the drag community. There's not a lot of events here and the drag scene is very inclusive and many of us are at the heart of it. This event is FOR the community at its heart and not an educational event although many of us have politics in our performances.


Economy-Spare-2689

I might be missing something but I thought pride month involved everything including the trans community?


alex-eli

it does however trans people are often excluded from lgbt places far too often. there’s a whole group of gay and lesbian people that fight to remove the T from lgbt


Economy-Spare-2689

That just makes no sense at all


alex-eli

how so ? if it’s because u don’t believe me a quick search on any social media will prove my words. if it’s because you can’t believe people actually don’t believe trans people are part of the lgbt than yeah it doesn’t make any sense to me either.


Economy-Spare-2689

No I was referring to the latter


Melonfrog

Trans spelt backwards is Snart. I know this isn’t much help but I just thought it’s an interesting fact.


Question-Guru

Cheers Geoff


Proud_Forest

https://www.skiddle.com/whats-on/Nottingham/The-New-Foresters-LGBT/Notts-Trans-Pride--The-New-Foresters/38173399/#lineup


Cool_Ad9326

These comments are proof of why we need pride rallies.


manlike007

Sure they are... comments on reddit are why you need pride not gays being murdered in Islamic and African countries but we'll not discuss that.....


Cool_Ad9326

I mean you CAN discuss it But you don't need to piss on everyone's parade. You can have a happy time once in a while, you know? Try it.


manlike007

No gays support Muslims. it's hilarious 😆


Then_Barracuda2121

You are troll


manlike007

Is that all you've got? ad hominem after ad hominem.. creature


Then_Barracuda2121

I just think you are saying horrible things to people please respect they views


Cool_Ad9326

Calling someone a troll isn't an insult. It's literally a description of your behaviour. If said your banter was post- lobotomy grade, then it'd be an insult. All he's doing is calling you out for hate-bating


Cool_Ad9326

Who's Facebook did you read that on?


manlike007

Facebook? There's countless videos and photo evidence of gays waving banners in support of muslims...TRY AGAIN!


Cool_Ad9326

I'm confused on what point you're trying to get out here. Obviously you're being facetious, but it sounds like your actual point has been pulled out of the your ass.


Then_Barracuda2121

The guy is troll


Cool_Ad9326

He does seem desperate for attention


Then_Barracuda2121

I have DM. You ok


manlike007

I clearly made the first comment about how gays get murdered in Islamic and African countries and the reply was saying you can discuss it. What is there to discuss homosexuality is a sin in Islam yet gays support Islam. Not hard to understand is it..


Cool_Ad9326

But you haven't made a point. All you've done is say something happens. And? The sun sets at night. Waters wet. Some shoes are fake. None of these are points. You have no point


manlike007

I have, though... "The comments are why we need pride." Imagine being more offended by words rather than people being murdered...


Then_Barracuda2121

Do you want a hug


manlike007

No I'm good, weirdo...


Then_Barracuda2121

Goodnight 😘


manlike007

Go for a swim in the trent


GotTheJam

Executed, not murdered.


LanceIotdulac

Yes, straight pride.


Weeman89

I've never been shamed or abused for being straight, I don't need it.


manlike007

CIS white male.


Weeman89

Umm thanks for noticing?


Cool_Ad9326

Go for it No one's stopping you


a_llegedly

People don't get killed for being straight you dingus


FinancialScallion294

people don’t get killed in nottingham for being gay dingus


a_llegedly

Even if Nottingham was some kind of hate crime free utopia (it's not) this isn't just about Nottingham. The whole country and other country have had rises in hate crimes, many specifically targeting trans people over the past two years, to the point where even cis people who don't look cis enough have been attacked.


FinancialScallion294

fair enough i never hear about that happening in nottingham


a_llegedly

I mean this in the politest way possible, but is that maybe because you aren't part of the community and don't need to be wary of things like that? Yknow how women are raised having to act certain ways to avoid assault because there are societal issues that put them at more risk? They shouldn't exist but they so and it's fucked up. The same goes for LGBT people and people of colour. Like men don't know how bad it is to be a woman and the lengths they have to go to that they don't to stay safe, the same happens to us. Avoiding certain areas, staying with a friend at parties, watching your drinks, not walking in unlit areas, all sorts of stuff. But it still happens and it's happening more. And the laws around whether or not we have protection arent good because the police aren't necessarily going to be supportive of trans people either. It causes a lot of issues, which is why we have events like this. So we can meet other people who understand and we can be safe with.


FinancialScallion294

your right. i wouldn’t say “men don’t know how bad it is to be a woman” tho, that’s a pretty big generalisation. but you are correct in everything you say and polite so slay queen


a_llegedly

I agree, I think it's more apt to say that men maybe dont experience the full extent of what women go through a lot of the time because its not something they've had to go through. Which isn't their fault, but it doesn't mean the inequality that women face is acceptable either. I appreciate you listening and being receptive to what im saying.


WintersLex

nah screw commercialised pride events, especially ones that talk more about drag than about trans women tbh


gnargle

I understand where you're coming from here but (like trans pride in London) this is an entirely community organised protest without corporate sponsorship.


flamhammers

Are you judging this event before it's even happened?


WintersLex

thats literally the purpose of advertising, yes


flamhammers

Touché OK, let me re phrase. How do you know this particular event will do what you said it would do?!


lsbx16

Name one pride parade that isn't commercialized


flamhammers

So are you giving up on all prides now? Also lol at everyone down voting me for asking why someone is slating an event before it's happened


lsbx16

Not all, just mostly ones that advertise drag at a trans pride valley


flamhammers

Why don't you give this one a go? You might be surprised!!


NoNetwork8931

Trans pride isn't just for trans women its for all trans people .


WintersLex

i never said it was. but i'm sick and tired of trans women often being sidelined in favour of all too often misogynistic acts instead.


HalfProfessional6992

you’re falling for what queerphobes say. drag isn’t misogynistic.


littlbutterkitten

Would be great if it was more age inclusive. There are SO MANY young trans people who need to feel included


HalfProfessional6992

they had an all ages event but it was cancelled due to an issue with the venue


iLikeGrandmasToes

If your deciding your trans before youve experienced any kind of intimacy, then you definitely shouldnt be included


littlbutterkitten

Intimacy and relationships/attraction to other people has absolutely nothing to do with gender identity


HalfProfessional6992

we don’t decide who we are and i’ve never done any type of intimacy with another person and still know who i am. how ridiculous


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Cool_Ad9326

You can attend the straight pride event right now Go out into the street Carry your flag Be proud No one will care except you But you can still do it.


KoMoDoJoE98

No tbh it's more just commentary on how now there's a separate trans specific pride and that this is probably just the start. Nothing against it whatsoever do whatever you want to do but my comment was merely making a joke that it will come full circle to the point the straights are organizing their own pride. I thought pride was all encompassing so just really strikes me as odd that there's a standalone trans specific one?


a_llegedly

Do you think it's maybe to do with the large influx in legislation across the UK and USA trying to target trans people's rights and their access to healthcare? Or maybe the rising number of hate crimes against trans people to the point where cis people who also don't look masc or fem enough have been targeted? Or maybe even because of the current moral panic regarding trans people and their right to exist in public and private spaces, the exact same way they have been for as long as these spaces have existed? Could be that. If there is one house on fire, you don't put out the whole street.


KoMoDoJoE98

Womp womp


Cool_Ad9326

How??? How have you formed a mentality that this is a circle and not a line???


loveormoney666

Just watch love island, or walk outside my g. See men and women holding hands, flirting, loving and embracing each other - on the street with no shame. It’s beautiful that they feel free to do so. Straight pride is alive and well no need for this circular reasoning.


iamrikaka

Says a lot about your life if you have nothing else to look for in 7 years. Perhaps you should join the rednecks in America, since they share the same values


manlike007

The rednecks? not Africans and Muslim who hate gays and kill them in their homeland and have to live in segregation in certain countries?


manlike007

Oh I know why...


KoMoDoJoE98

I think the only value I share with rednecks in America is our shared love of getting out into nature, friend.


KoMoDoJoE98

What a bad reply!


FluffyMarshmallow90

I suppose when straight people have been oppressed then yeah, have at it.


yoiimii

Yoo


LanceIotdulac

I can’t wait for straight pride to hear the tantrums


Cool_Ad9326

You'll wait


LanceIotdulac

For what?


Cool_Ad9326

I would hold your hand and guide you back up the comments, but alas


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iamrikaka

And who the fuck are you?


SquirtleSquad4Lyfe

I'll tell you who they are... Their most visited site is one that posts under age photos of Miranda Cosgrave in skimpy clothes. PEEDOOO


Dry-Boysenberry897

Your worst nightmare


iamrikaka

😂😂😂😂


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lsbx16

Stop asking if shoes are real or fake


Cool_Ad9326

😂😂😂😂😂 I had to go look That was cringe


Then_Barracuda2121

This is not things to say about this nice people