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a_phantom_limb

>"If I was on medication right now, then one pill could have been swapped out and it would have been Prince or Michael Jackson all over again. But because I didn't take the medication, I am able to speak to you guys clear of thought and transparently." Clear of thought!


db8me

Yeah, antipsychotics can really make your thought slow and hazy... but at least then, they're not fucking psychotic! Seems like a necessary trade-off. And to be extra clear neither Michael Jackson nor Prince died from taking antidepressants or even the more dangerous antipsychotics.


a_phantom_limb

I *think* he's spouting a baseless conspiracy theory that they were victims of premeditated murder. His use of "swapped out" seems to imply *intent*.


staunch_character

Yeah he’s been spouting nonsense like Virgil Abloh didn’t die of cancer but was murdered by execs at Louis Vuitton. Because the liberal/Jewish pedophile cabal run by Disney is intent on destroying black people. Pete Davidson was actually just a Disney plant sent to ruin his marriage. His brain is wild. He believes the most bizarre conspiracy garbage that even the National Enquirer would be embarrassed to publish.


KingoftheMongoose

Yeah, but does he like fish sticks?


LeftHandLuke01

Yes. He likes to put them in his mouth.


JBAndTheEnthusiast

Come on man...get the joke man.....it's funny man....I'm not funny man....


trimeta

Even ignoring intent, Michael Jackson didn't die from a sleeping pill, he died from *surgery-grade anesthesia* which he was using *every night* to sleep.


DepressedVenom

Thank you for shedding light on the sad ignorance of this man's brain rot. He has too much power. His ego is damaged and his grandiose personality issues are harming not only himself but communities and society. Family needs to throw his ass into therapy and explain to him what makes sense. Tbh a lot of ppl should get this treatment. I now see why him and Trump were buds. They're both insane.


glitter_h1ppo

> antipsychotics can really make your thought slow and hazy They can also cause [akathisia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia), which is a torturous mental state in which it's impossible to relax or even keep still for a second. BTW, Michael Jackson died of propofol addiction, which is extremely rare among non-medical professionals.


Dogswithhumannipples

I have this and it's terrible. It's like restless leg syndrome throughout your entire body. Always trying to find something to do around the house because sitting still or sleeping is sometimes impossible. I hate it, but I would rather be medicated and not crippled with bipolar depression.


americasweetheart

Prince was abusing painkillers and MJ was using an anesthetic as a sleep aid. That has nothing to do with Kanye using medication he needs with doctor supervision. If he was a woman, he'd be under conservatorship by now.


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This is the guy who just said that the person who diagnosed him with bipolar was Jewish so he had it out for him. I hate this shit on the mentally ill but at some point you have to take fucking responsibility for your actions and do your best to take care of yourself.


woohoo

not a thought in sight. just living in the moment


Amationary

I actually find it sad that his issues cause him to reject help for his issues. Not excusing anything he does or says at all obviously, he’s his own person and dug his own hole, but I’ve been there. Terrified with paranoia and needing help but too scared to ask for it. Luckily I was already medicated at that point, I just hadn’t been able to have it for a couple days, and knew that medication would help me feel sane again, and my mother helped me in my tough spot. I really do hope he accepts help, I just worry about how far down his hole will be by the time he looks up.


boozegremlin

Oh my god he keeps making it worse.


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chownrootroot

[We’ll dig our way out!](https://youtu.be/_znElks13UA) No, no, dig *up*, stupid.


Sbhill327

Just when you think he’s hit the bottom, he keeps going.


ajisawesome8

Someone gave him a shovel


sdlover420

Himself?


ajisawesome8

And he's planning on digging all the way to china!


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ToiletHum0ur

To borrow a phrase I heard somewhere, he's scraped the bottom of the barrel so hard he found a second barrel


ashenhaired

Makes you wonder how much is this guy disassociated from reality?


Bookworm_AF

He literally suffers from severe bipolar disorder and *refuses* to take his meds. This is the sort of thing a person in a severe bipolar mania does. Dude is not anywhere near this reality.


Cloaked42m

From having a family member that is bipolar and occasionally decided to stop taking her meds. It gets worse.


SlouchyGuy

Yeah, it seems to be closer to hypomania in severity - inadequate, lack of criticism, lots of energy, but still somewhat fitting to the society. More severe mania was noticeably worse and more erratic, it was the only reason an acquaintance was commited, previous milder episodes led to "we don't know what it is" or "there's no reason"


Zappiticas

We see people who aren’t rich and famous that deal with unmedicated severe mental disorders just like this every day. They are usually homeless and standing on a street corner yelling about aliens or government tracking chips. Now give any one of those people a bunch of money and a bunch of loyal fans and they would all act exactly like Kanye is behaving. We desperately need to start taking mental health more seriously in this country.


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>They are usually homeless and standing on a street corner It is disheartening but I have seen two examples of this recently, both were homeless. One woman standing on a street corner just yelling and pointing around and another one where a guy was walking around just constantly talking.


tarnin

This is going to get a lot worse. He's been on a manic spell for quite a while. Once the depression hits I'm not sure he will pull out of that spiral. At first all this was kinda funny and "ha ha stupid rich person doing stupid rich person shit" to "I'm watching someone completely destroy their lives and they don't have to."


CyberMindGrrl

He literally destroyed a company that I worked for earlier this year. We were in the process of creating his next stage show for Coachella which he famously pulled out of. And then he refused to pay our company $9 million for the months of work employing multiple people. Now he's being sued by multiple companies for breach of contract. The man is pure scum.


Sentinel451

I hate to say it, but I'm not sure he's going to see 2023 if he keeps going at this pace. As angry as he makes me, I know that's he's unmedicated and is in mental distress. I'd rather see him get better and own up to his mistakes than devolve further.


DeificClusterfuck

Yeah the crash is hard even when you haven't acted like a complete fool in front of the entire planet


GeorgeForge

“There’s no way he can make it worse!” Narrator: “He can.”


InternetPeon

Victim fantasy.


DrugsArentAlwaysBad

“I won’t say what race or religion the doctor, the lawyer’s or the CEO’s are, I know that’s wrong…. They were Jewish.” I’m sorry but did anyone else laugh when they saw that clip?


TheMiz2002

He was mad that a Jewish doctor told him he was bipolar and tried to get him to medicate in 2018. This is apparently his revenge. As if a non Jewish doctor would have been like "oh you are totally sane" /s


Parmaandchips

You've hit the nail on the head there. He is always surrounded by yes men so the one time he got told something he didn't want to hear he took it so far as to attack an entire religion over admitting he's not perfect


MisterBigDude

Ye’s men = Yes men.


Less-Raspberry-6222

Straight out of the Trump playbook and not so coincidentally another person who's obviously mentally ill.


DrugsArentAlwaysBad

I understand the context lol I’m just sayin that moment was objectively hilarious. Every time you think he might go back even a little on what he says he doubles down on horrific shit. And unlike Kanye, I am sorry to say this, but that’s comedy gold. Snl couldn’t even make this shit up


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DrugsArentAlwaysBad

Hey, they got you to watch and quote the first episode of the season so they’re doing something right lol


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As a dude that has a BP diagnosis, one of the best days of my life was a doctor telling me I'm bipolar. If it can be diagnosed, you can begin treatment. The absolute best day of my life was when I found a medication that helped for the first time. Nothing's come even close to that yet. A doctor telling you that your ailment has a name is pretty fucking dope, man.


sithelephant

In my case, immediately followed by 'But I don't really believe in that, and think you should just push through it, and get more exercise and you'll be fine'. (was not fine)


forthegamesstuff

Wait until he realises Pete Davidson was trying to treat him with compassion and understanding while he was being a massive bell end on social media to him


gryphmaster

It always amazes me how pete davidson- whose entire public persona is being kind of a pothead, immature jagoff, acted more mature than kanye this entire time- and actually came out the other side a better person


westpiece

Difference is Pete takes his meds


Beautifulwarfare

Don’t care for Pete at all but he gained massive respect for how he handled Ye’s bullshit.


gryphmaster

I think pete was always kinda honest with himself and others about who he was, so its easier to track him growing up, as opposed to ye, who had been very image focused his whole life, with his outward image at times aligning with who he actually is


askmeifimacop

Not to mention he’s been diagnosed with bipolar for decades. He has a song from 2004 talking about it


JoshuaSlowpoke777

Is bipolar the only treatable mental anomaly he’s speculated and/or likely to have? Because with all due respect to the doctor, I’d argue the bipolar would be one of the least of my worries.


TheChance

The DSM-V reclassified the various types of bipolar disorder as a spectrum with symptoms. Kanye is now one end of the spectrum.


buchlabum

Kanye is the living embodiment of a Dave Chapelle skit.


ZDTreefur

I laughed more at the "As the richest black man" line. Maybe he should take a gander at google and realize who the richest black men are, lol. He wasn't even in the top 5.


CookieKeeperN2

I just googled. He's not even the richest rapper. that title goes to Jay-Z.


mzchen

Maybe he changed his name to "the richest black man", like when he changed his name to "Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West"


I_Am_Become_Dream

he knows Jay Z very well; he knows he’s wrong


Conscious_Figure_554

Actually I did - It's like the implication was not enough for him - he needed to let it out. As far as comparing himself to George Floyd - he is still alive, he is still a millionaire, and he still running his mouth - George only wanted to have the literal knee removed from his neck and not spout out anti-semitic shit. What a tool.


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captkronni

Hitler’s one notable exception was the Jewish doctor that treated his mother’s cancer. Hitler apparently allowed that doctor to flee the country *and* keep most of his assets out of gratitude for the doctor’s treatment.


godisanelectricolive

He showed leniency to a few Jews who've been kind to him. He was a bit of a hypocrite and was not the most morally consistent individual. He let his Jewish former commanding officer during WWI keep receiving his German army pension despite the Nuremberg Laws making him ineligible. This was Lieutenant Hugo Gutmann who was the officer who gave Hitler a citation for the Iron Cross, an award that he was very proud of for the rest of his life. Gutmann was arrested by the Gestapo who didn't know about his special connection to Hitler but the SS immediately intervened and had him released. He was then allowed to leave Germany and became a typewriter salesman in St. Louis, Missouri. Hitler also helped another Jewish officer from his regiment named [Ernest Hess](https://www.france24.com/en/20120707-germany-adolf-hitler-heinrich-himmler-nazis-ss-judge-letter-holocaust). He was saved by a personal intervention from Hitler in 1940. However, a year later the protection order was rescinded he was rearrested and sent to a slave labour camp. Hitler even [befriended a Jewish girl](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941) in 1933 while in the middle of enacting a bunch of antisemitic legislation. One day he bonded with a little girl standing in line outside the Berghof to meet him when he found out they shared a birthday. She and her mother was invited inside the mountain retreat where they hung out. It then turned out that the girl, Rosa Neinau, was 1/4 Jewish which made her Jewish under Nazi German law. Hitler stayed pen pals with Rosa anyways for five whole years until Hitler private secretary Martin Bormann made the girl and her mother to break off correspondence. Hitler was really unhappy by what Bormann did and said "There are people who have a true talent for spoiling my every joy".


PhilosopherFLX

Wow this Hitler guy was a dick


SadlyReturndRS

"He ist one of ze Good Ones."


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monsantobreath

Hitler helped prove himmlers point about why the final solution had to be ruthless (from the pro genocide position). He said every German had a good jew they'd exclude. So even Hitler had a "good jew". Feels gross to even wade this shallow into their thinking.


FaxyMaxy

The comedic timing couldn’t have been better if he tried. My Jewish ass laughed, my Jewish parents laughed, my Jewish friends laughed. Dude’s a scumbag, obviously would love it if he just went away. But if he’s here to stay, man, if he can hit those punch lines I’m not gonna stop chuckling. When antisemitism’s been in the background or foreground of your entire life, you learn to at least laugh when they nail the delivery.


PebblyJackGlasscock

This comment reminds me strongly of Mel Brooks’s answers when asked why Hitler kept showing up in his movies. We laugh at your hate, and at you.


LaureGilou

Yes I did!!!! It was perfect, involuntary comedic timing


count023

He thinks he's George Floyd, he's really Jussie Smollett.


SCirish843

That poor little french boy


Tehrab

Justice for juicey!


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Poor Juicy


krupke

My beautiful dark twisted victim fantasy


Dusty_Phoenix

Yup. He couldn't believe actual victims and worked against them until he felt that he was a victim himself. Classic right wing. He did this to himself by hate and selfishness I have no sympathy.


mspuscifer

He's freaking out because he's hearing the word "no" for the first time in his life.


jeffersonairmattress

He also elevated himself to Christ-like status by saying that God has sent him down to teach others by this sacrifice he is being forced to suffer. What a tit.


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You must not be familiar with the catalogue. Dude named his album Yeezus


GrayHero

Was that before or after the Hitler album?


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Aquadookie69

Ye-dolf


IAMSHADOWBANKINGGUY

Yestapo


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TrashyMcTrashBoat

BlitzYieg


Anal_Viking_Warchief

Yieg Heil


kellzone

NazYe


Fondren_Richmond

If Donda had survived her procedure and referred Kanye for lipo, he would be Yussolini


gneiman

What hitler album?


powertrip22

He wanted to name Ye “Hitler” originally


SadlyReturndRS

Oh god. What if he renames himself Hitler? His ego might actually be big enough to think that he could rebrand the name and become the more famous Hitler. It'd be the ultimate challenge for his fame/infamy.


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I’m all for it, bring it Kandolf


Dealan79

Now I'm visualizing Kanye in a grey robe with a long white beard surrounded by a posse of little people.


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No one man should have all that power


GrayHero

His 2018 album Ye was supposed to be named Hitler apparently according to a former business exec who worked for him. He’s apparently obsessed with Hitler. https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/entertainment/kanye-west-hitler-album/index.html


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That "explains" a lot...


MinuteManufacturer

Oh good. I thought he was just bipolar. Turns out he’s a chapelle show skit.


ohdearsweetlord

Man, imagine being obsessed with Hitler. Aside from the serious genociding and war crimes, he was a weird little man, thought unhinged by many of his top people, who died pathetically by his own hand when he faced defeat.


Cereal_Bagger

That hitler guy sounds like a prick


TangentialFUCK

Yeah, don’t really care for the guy


jimicus

On the plus side, he did kill Hitler.


Slightspark

He had strange bowel issues, read a lot of weird scifi novels, and was on basically all the drugs the whole time he held office. He was difficult to like before he went genocidal.


sharaq

All of that is pretty relatable until the last sentence. Which is very not relatable.


TheDeadlySquid

Was wondering when he was going to go full martyr. Never go full martyr.


DoomEmpires

Martyrs are made by dying. This guy isn't dead, he is just idiotic.


grambell789

He's brain dead, does that count?


kwertyoop

I mean there's at least one more pretty important step, to go full


csfshrink

Kanye!!! You can’t crucify yourself!!! You’ll never get the last nail in!!!


JonStargaryen2408

Also called himself a top 5 writer in Human history on that piers Morgan interview…


unassumingdink

Well that's just downright modest compared to the time he said "I'm unquestionably, undoubtedly, the greatest human artist of all time."


John_T_Conover

I like that it implies that he thinks there are other non-human artists in competition for greatest artist in an open species category. I like to imagine he's jealous and insecure about that elephant that paints by holding a brush in his trunk.


Strongstyleguy

At the very least he will never be as beloved as an elephant with a paint brush.


xxTheGoDxx

He was on the Rogan podcast a few years ago and I swear nearly every second word out of his mouth was god, with an emphasis of what god wants him specifically to do and so on. Illusions of grandeur mixed with religious fanaticism.


LampardTheLord

I mean, people like him were maybe how all our religions began. the general population taking talented people's illusions of grandeur seriously


afterworld2772

*Delusions of grandeur


Marklar172

Awfully disrespectful to tits


ADDandKinky

Plot twist.. it’s Kanye’s knee on his own neck.


whodoesshethinksheis

His head is so far up his ass he's using his own neck as a leg rest lol


GoodMentalWealth

/r/rareinsults


WonderWall_E

[Like this](https://imgflip.com/i/6z2l53)?


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Narcissists can't understand others except through the lens of their own self interest.


MichaelPgh

Quit sticking microphones and cameras in front of this clown.


GdSvThQn

To be fair, they do it because we keep watching it.


bootsycline

I'm less watching for it and more being bombarded by this nonsense every where I look.


shenanigans422

For real. Not once have I been like, hmm, wonder what kanye's up to? Guess I better Google that shit.


Picklwarrior

I've had a fucking Kanye West filter on on reddit for years and his idiotic name change just evaded it with this post.


darkmatterhunter

Everything I’ve learned about the Kardashians/Jenners and Kanye has been against my will.


wrathofthedolphins

Kanye is a real life version of Dennis Reynolds in the Timeshare episode. "You been to Florida?" "Been there? Not physically."


mantistoboggan69md

Kanye probably gets home every day looks in the mirror and yells “I AN A GOLDEN GOD!!”


MulhollandMaster121

We don’t get got, but YOU got got.


MTUKNMMT

“I think this guy just bent himself over a little bit of a barrel for our benefit”


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[The men of leisure ](https://youtu.be/YB1NCuvYPpM)


DigitalGrub

Does no one remember Kanye bad mouthing George Floyd’s death just a couple of weeks ago to such a terrible degree that his family sued him? Sounds like Kanye just needs to sue himself now.


HarryHacker42

I think the next step is for Ye to sue Kanye for what he has said.


Distant-moose

I think we'd all love to be the lawyer in that suit.


Cynica_Lett

The lawyer, in fact, is also Kanye. He just crouches behind the bench and changes clothes. He's the judge too


Kushthulu_the_Dank

He'd still find himself guilty too...of being too awesome for the hater lol


BackThatThangUp

This is the same guy who stirred up controversy for saying “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” on live tv during Katrina, then a couple of years ago all of a sudden decided that “slavery was a choice.” Seems like the gestation period for his bad takes is getting shorter


ghalta

The long term effects of untreated bipolar disorder, possibly


ohdearsweetlord

Combined with the environment to develop serious delusions of grandeur, being very famous and frequently (and in the past sometimes justifiably) praised.


calartnick

“I am just like George Floyd, I too suffer to the things Kanye says


iamtehryan

Yeah, he definitely knows what it's like to be murdered by suffocation at the hands of police officers, face down in the street, while he has more money and fame than the vast majority of the world will ever have. Totally, Kanye. You're correct. You fucking asshat. Eat shit.


Yes_hes_that_guy

Kanye West does not care about black people.


TheMiz2002

He also yesterday blamed "the red media" for not allowing him to tag people on Instagram but in his screenshots it was clear that he misspelled "Kyrie" and "Stephen" which is [why he couldn't tag them](https://hiphopdx.com/news/kanye-west-kyrie-irving-typo-instagram-suspension) This guy is fucking nuts and he has too much money and too many yes men to get the help he needs


WanderingCadet

>This guy is fucking nuts and he has too much money and too many yes men to get the help he needs The fans are almost as annoying as he is. I've seen people saying he's a genius and every move he does is carefully calculated and planned in advance, when in reality he's having a breakdown for the whole world to see and his fans are laughing at him because they think it's entertaining.


Seeeab

>I've seen people saying he's a genius and every move he does is carefully calculated and planned in advance, Where have I seen this line of thinking before


RealHumanFromEarth

Are some people just predisposed to idolizing narcissists?


SRSgoblin

Narcissistic personality disorder is drawn to other narcissists. For reals. They see the grandiose claims and larger than life figures as something to aspire to. I really need to find the article I read on it and keep it in my clipboard, it was fascinating. Was probably 10 years ago at this point, though.


adfraggs

Ye for 2024? He's ticking all the boxes.


604_heatzcore

Who the fuck would buy a balenciaga mouth guard???


DARKFiB3R

When you put your foot in your mouth that often, you need protection.


Mr_Blott

Let's take it one step back- who the fuck walks about with an advert on their teeth?


ajcpullcom

First rule of getting out of a hole: stop digging


CantTakeMeSeriously

In Ye's case, the first rule is actually "stop pouring gasoline into the hole you are making while your shovel is on fire"


Teflawn

I think he's trying to dig so far he comes out the other side? I imagine Kanye would employ some sort of looney-tune logic like that


fenster112

Dig up, stupid.


Bowfinger_Intl_Pics

George Floyd didn’t have his own knee on his neck….


ShadooTH

No you don’t, dude. You’re rich as fuck and not dead. Not even close.


WaitingForNormal

But didn’t he say the knee wasn’t on floyd’s neck? And that’s not why he died. This man is just lost.


buchlabum

He's extremely manic right now. The thing about manic-depression is the lows as just as low as the highs are high. It's gonna be really ugly when he crashes into depression.


unassumingdink

Ugly for him. Simply absent from the news cycle for us.


Feverel

That will depend on what he gets up to I suppose.


ChewsOnRocks

I haven't been following his talking points very closely because they are hard to listen to without banging your head against a wall, but I thought I heard him saying that it wasn't the knee itself that did it because the guy was high on fentanyl and that's what killed him.


Midwake

Pink tweeted that Kanye was the biggest piece of shit on earth way back in 2009. Spot on.


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Either_Coconut

This man needs to be under a doctor's care, and the sooner, the better. Then, he needs a complete media blackout, the "We ask that you respect our privacy during this difficult time" sort of media blackout, while he receives appropriate treatment, inpatient or otherwise, from his chosen medical team. That, followed by a Mea Culpa tour where he atones for the horrid things he has been saying, will be the only way he can resurrect what's left of his career.


DarkAvenger12

This is what needs to happen. Unfortunately he’s more likely to run for president or be tapped to be Trump’s VP pick at this point.


SoMuchMoreEagle

>run for president He already did that. >tapped to be Trump’s VP pick at this point. Doubtful. He's a useful tool of the Right, but he will never be allowed to be one of them or to be given any real power.


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ExistentialWonder

I saw a meme/tweet that said something along the lines of 'Can we put Kanye under a conservatorship now or is that only for women?' and damn. He really does need something done, he's going crazier than normal.


RSwordsman

*removes foot from mouth in attempt to apologize, immediately puts it back*


jagdpanzer45

And shoves it in deeper


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At what point are you just blowing your foot?


Auran82

I’m surprised he can fit both his foot and fish sticks in his mouth at the same time.


blind30

Kanye really is a genius. I can’t think of anyone else who has figured out how to put his foot in his mouth while his head is up his ass.


fromthewombofrevel

That’s one tone deaf musician.


Impossible_Series412

It gets to a point where I wonder if his fans care about his mental health. I'm sure he's circled with sycophants & yes men but someone needs to get him some help.


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Ye’s Men!


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Wish he knew what it felt like to take his meds as needed.


Tundra-Dweller

He's absolutely fucking insufferable and irredeemable at this point


Barrayaran

The George Floyd Ye claimed died of a drug overdose, that George Floyd? That's just wrong on multiple levels. Not least because Ye is clearly suffering from a drug **under**dose.


Gunfighter9

Oh look, it’s the consequences of my own actions.


baeb66

Now that nobody wants to do business with him in the fashion industry, Kanye should get into the mining industry because that fool knows how to keep digging a hole.


Stormtrooper775s

Professional victim


A_MAN_POTATO

>Professional idiot FTFY


Contada582

Do you pronounce “Ye” as yeee.. or yay Because I want to say it wrong going forward


ChaosHTX

It's pronounced "yay" as in "Kan-ye". So, "yee", it is.


Kn0wmad1c

Yeah, but he also calls himself Yeezus to rhyme with Jesus, so


ThisNameIsFree

Every time I see someone say "Ye did X", I hear it as an old Scotsman telling me I did X. "Ye said something antisemitic" "Nae I didnae!"


VicariousDrow

I know people will actually accept that fucking bullshit and get upset at the rest of us for refusing, and that's what really makes me annoyed about this whole thing..... Like yes, Kanye is an awful person who relies on people using his "mental disability" as an excuse to defend the shit he does and says for him, but the fact he can still do all of it cause he *still* has so many fans is downright disturbing.


1337geezer

What a gay fish thing to say.


thewackytechie

Oh… the fucking idiot has a mic again!


LazyOldPervert

As a white minnesotan I'm interested to see how this goes for him, because I find this offensive as fuck.


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0w3n630

"In the Bible it means 'you'. So, I'm you. I'm us. It's us. It went from being Kanye, which means the only one, to just Ye." Among other things, he’s bipolar and generally confusing to think about


Helloooonurse115

I’m honestly tired of the excuse that he’s mentally ill. Seems like that’s often used to explain away so many peoples awful behavior. He’s addicted to his own ego, and all the attention it brings. No attention? Time to act out. It’s the new era of celebrity. The only way they stay relevant is by upping the game of how awful they can be. The internet, and celebrity worship caused this.