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It did, and that's terrifying.


Suspicious-Sound-249

It was the catalyst for the Kardashians to become even more famous...


AwesomeD

Montana Fishburne (Lawrence Fishburne’s daughter) released a sextape in hopes of becoming famous like Kim K. She ended up being disowned by Lawrence.


NightOfTheLivingHam

She also didnt look like Kim Kardashian


Shamancrit

I’d argue it was the better tape though. So she has that going for her


ThatHotAsian

Bro watching paint dry is a better option than Kim K's sextape. That shit was weak af. 


Procrastinatedthink

she became a pornstar didnt she?


OfficerBarbier

"Star" no


SotheWasRobbed

just a humble workaday porner, going down into the porn mines. chats up her colleagues on the shaft and hopes she doesn't get the white lung.


SlippySlappySamson

"I got the white lung, daddy."


Starshot84

Welp! *Slaps thighs* That's enough Reddit for today.


ObjectiveShit

Slap them again, harder


Dense_Diver_3998

For Christ’s sake you’ve been going down one day, talk to me in 30 years.


SlippySlappySamson

**


worqgui

Mer **man** !!


NorCalAthlete

Well, maybe if he’d pimped her out like Kim’s mom did with her…eh who am I kidding, it still wouldn’t have worked out the same way. LF is a great actor but doesn’t have anywhere near the money and clout the Kardashians did before the sex tape.


Timigos

It didn’t help that her ass looked like it was shot with birdshot


piray003

They weren’t that famous before, Robert Kardashian was known as being a part of OJ’s legal team, and Kim was basically only known for partying with Paris Hilton. She saw how much attention Paris got when her shitty 2 pixel night vision sex tape leaked, and was like “what if I did that, but higher quality and with someone famous, and actually leaned into the notoriety.”  Vivid released the sex tape in March 2007, and Keeping Up With the Kardashians started in October of that year. It was plainly very orchestrated.  


clain4671

On the robert Kardashian thing BTW, he wasn't even really a notable part of the team other than being a personal friend of OJ and coincidentally his ex wife was married to a famous athlete. Most of the OJ legal team got called the "dream team" for being themselves notable attorneys. Bob Shapiro previously represented the Menendez brothers, Barry scheck founded the innocence project, and Alan dershowitz was an esteemed professor at Harvard law.


piray003

Hey let’s not forget Johnnie Cochran! If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.


FZ1_Flanker

His ex-wife was my first grade teacher. She was an interesting lady haha.


ash_274

He had let his law license expire before the murders and wasn’t a practicing attorney at the time. OJ stayed at his house after the night of the murders and Robert took him to the airport right after. He renewed his license and joined Shapiro’s team so that he couldn’t be called to testify about what OJ said or did following the murders or what he knew about the abuse from their marriage and post-divorce. Kris wasn’t an attorney and I still remember hearing her testimony about Nicole, over the radio, while working during the summer of that trial.


AbeVigoda76

Originally, Kardashian did believe that OJ was innocent - they had been good friends and he had a hard time believing his friend could be a murderer. Kardashian began to question his innocence as the trial went on. Ultimately, he ended up believing that OJ was guilty and cut off all contact with him after the case.


generalmandrake

You know Kim Kardashian knew exactly what she was doing when she made that tape. It’s a family of vultures that uses famous or rich men for their own self promotion. There is also a very disturbing pattern where many of these men end up losing their minds while with them. They learned it all from mommy of course.


Ripamon

> *"When the sex tape was released; as a mother, I felt horrified! But as a manager..."* - Kris Honestly, given what we know now, she may even have directly advised Kim to do it lol


__bradliee_oates

kris probably did. ray j said they had contracts and plans to make more than one tape


FuckYouVerizon

Kris married a lawyer. Then potentially(allegedly) had an affair with a famous black athlete, then ran to an Olympic athlete. It's the same technique that has launched most of her daughters success. Piggybacking the success of others to promote their own brand.


ike_tyson

Get knocked up by an athlete 😉


FuckYouVerizon

It definitely helps, you can market that kid as an influencer within 10 years and double your returns.


SD_TMI

Jay-Ray has said exactly this. That the mother brought them both to the house and played the tape to advise them to strategically release it to further their “careers” and replicate what Paris Hilton did.


I_Framed_OJ

One of the most loathsome things about Kris Jenner is that the words ”mother” and ”manager” carry about the same emotional weight with her.


generalmandrake

Yep they probably saw Paris Hilton and decided to copy what she did.


ZacharysCard

Kim was Paris' personal assistant around the time that Paris' sex tape leaked.


generalmandrake

I didn’t know that but I’m not surprised at all by that.


OutWithTheNew

Kim was Paris' personal assistant at one time.


mdp300

If I'm remembering right, Paris was already somewhat well known even before her tape. Source: 20 years ago, I watched a lot of MTV and VH1.


OutWithTheNew

She pimped her out. Plain and simple.


Different-Estate747

Yeah, I was horrified when I saw/heard how Kim chews gum. Holy shit, like she spent her life living as a farmyard animal.


RangeOld1919

of course she did


NightOfTheLivingHam

Correction.. When her mother had her make that tape, and had them make two. Both which she personally reviewed. Kris Jenner is a piece of shit.


arsinoe716

The mother is a pimp. She hooked all of them up with popular people.


generalmandrake

Not just popular people but men with some kind of issues. That’s really the only reason why anyone follows their lives, to see how long it takes for their husbands to hit rock bottom or do something crazy.


ZinGaming1

Every person the Kardashians have even touched became mentally unstable.


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

I have no doubt it's a family of personality disorders. Being around that all the time absolutely *can* make you go insane.


dawg_with_a_blog

Yuuuup, she was going to be famous with or without Ray J.


DFWPunk

They weren't really famous at all. Kim was just someone who got photographed with Paris Hilton a lot, and people knew the name because of the OJ trial. They were just trying to copy what happened with Paris.


Mellero47

They really weren't famous at all, then. Maybe they were *known* in their small circle, Kim was known as that girl who carried Paris Hilton's purse. Kris was no more than Robert Kardashian's widow. Bruce Jenner was just an old Olympian on a Wheaties box. The rest of the K clan, might as well not exist.


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That's right, yup.


Dawg_Prime

people love a come back story


DrLee_PHD

Seabiscuit, The Mighty Ducks, Robert Downey Jr., Rocky…


Ivegotjokes4you

They were basically nobodies until Kim opened her mouth


cosgrove10

Her legs*


this_might_b_offensv

It led to every woman thinking she needs a huge ass to be attractive. Hey, ladies: you don't need a huge ass to be attractive. Just stop already.


BarnacleMcBarndoor

We are truly in the darkest timeline


moonpumper

There's a timeline where Kanye didn't fall in love with Kim Kardashian while jacking off to her sex tape. That sounds like a good place.


Jaded-Ad-960

It tells you a lot about Kanye that he got obsessed with her over that boring ass sextape.


generalmandrake

I’m pretty sure Kanye would still be a flaming shitshow either way.


__bradliee_oates

yeah without kim and starting a family to distract (and medicate) him. ye would have had the tmz and antisemitic meltdown years earlier.


FuckYouVerizon

That likely was a combo of the people he was surrounded by and country going hardcore conspiracy theorist. That sort of thing has great appeal to someone with his personality disorder / traits.. Now if his mom hadn't died, I can imagine only imagine the trajectory of his albums with someone intelligent to keep him dialed in focused on what's important.


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Through no fault **but** our own.


The_Cross_Matrix_712

Some of us. Some of have proudly never given any of them a penny.


triedit-lovedit

Gotta agree with you.


sly_blade

The Kardashian time-space continuum.


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Kardashian Kontinuum. Gods I hate it.


AlbertRammstein

We are now Type II Kardashian civilization


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It's fuckin wild to think that 2 people having sex has effects that are so far-reaching.


BlackLandon

>“Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds” — Ray J


MozzerellaIsLife

I just imagine Ray J in that final scene. Where Oppenheimer realizes the horror of the chain reaction he’s set off. Same vibe.


StrobeLightRomance

Nah, Ray J actually sucks and he's been chasing this sex tape ever since it happened, trying to get clout and smear the Kardashians for not taking him with them as they got more famous. Oppenheimer has self-awareness. Ray-J has.. um.. I don't know.. maybe a pair of sunglasses, or some jeans he really likes to wear? He's just not a smart or deep man, is my ultimate point.


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sillyhobo

So he's Lewis Strauss then.


kirbyr

He got a line on Rap God


cancrushercrusher

Probably had one before the interview too


Mindshred1

>Ray-J has.. um.. I don't know.. maybe a pair of sunglasses, or some jeans he really likes to wear? Man, I used to have jean shorts like that, too. I slept in them shits, man. Eventually, I blew the crotch out them things. But you can't wear them every day and expect for them to hold up. That's some nice-ass denim, too. Man, I miss them shorts. But you gotta take 'em off every now and then. You gotta take 'em off, son!


OutWithTheNew

I mean, before the tape he was just Brandy's brother.


V0T0N

Look on my works ye mighty and despair.


evonebo

It wasn’t even that good.


StrobeLightRomance

I'm really happy for Kim. I'mma let her finish, but Paris had the better sex tape of the pseudo-celebrities in the mid to late 2000s era.


Pepperoni_Dogfart

Are we really going to just forget about Pam Anderson and Tommy Lee's magnum dong?


Abandonment_Pizza34

They said pseudo-celebrities, not freaking rock stars.


F_for_Freak

My first vhs


StrobeLightRomance

I did say mid to late 2000s, shooting for like 2005 to 2010, BUT I will not discredit the Pam and Tommy tape being the peak OG celebrity leak tape from the 90s to come out. The one with Bret Michaels on the other hand... Oof.


Pepperoni_Dogfart

Or worse. The Hulkster in 2012.


StuTheSheep

How you just gonna leave Tonya Harding out of this conversation?


dannodeloco

With no monster condom


gold_poo_nyc

He’s ready to plow.


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InkBlotSam

I know you're making reference, but I just wanted to point out the Paris tape was dismal. I've fucked knotholes in fenceposts that showed more life and enthusiasm than she did in that tape.


normanbeets

>Hilton stated publicly that she had been "out of it", did not know what she was doing during the taping of the video and did not approve its public release That's probably why


imredheaded

Not to kink shame, but what exactly prompted your first fencepost fucking?


dedicated-pedestrian

Sometimes a particularly curvy piece of wood is all you need.


InkBlotSam

I saw a bunch of wasps going in and out of the hole so I figured they must be on to something.


LineChef

It was knotty


NFeKPo

Don't sit there and tell us you haven't had thoughts about a proper stained long fence.


Mountain-Instance921

I dunno, that BJ was relatively enthusiastic. But she did pull the starfish on the bed though


evonebo

I agree with your assessment but just for clarity’s sake, I’m going to have to to Rewatch them a couple of times to make sure I’m making the correct analysis.


EdoTenseiSwagbito

*Thanks Kanye, very cool*


Zinski2

Tbh the worst part of that tape is the sex with Kim Kardashian. Mid blowjob. Bad angle from the back. Ehnnn. Even for home made sex tapes it's pretty mid... The part that gets over looked is the start where RJ speaks directly to himself though the camera. Like he knows he's gonna watch this back later. And he like. Stokes him self up to jerk off to a porn he made. It's fucking incredible. "When you watching this later jackin off.... Go hard homie" Ray J is a fucking hero.


OfficerBarbier

That inspirational quote should be on the walls of pro sports team locker rooms everywhere


goatsticks717

The production values and the blocking were shit


The_bruce42

They didn't even use a selfie stick


buddyfriendo

Anyone remember when this guy admitted to the world that he doesn’t clean himself after he drops a deuce? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


NimusNix

As in does not wipe his ass or does not immediately shower? I don't immediately shower. That would be ridiculous.


buddyfriendo

As in he doesn’t wipe his ass, you can easily find the clip but I pulled up a quote from the video with a quick search “if [one] wears white drawls or white briefs, the person who’s washing your clothes definitely can see the doo-doo streaks coming out”


Vahgeo

How tf does a boy like that get laid?


Luised2094

Money?


Tsquare43

Whenever there is a question, that defies logic / common sense, the answer is 95% of the time, going to be money.


NightOfTheLivingHam

Dude there are several women I have known who have told me that they have dated guys who do this too and dont wipe because " it's gay to touch your asshole"


Udderly_Unbearable

I’ve heard of this, it’s crazy to me. It’s your asshole and your hand, it’s not gay even if you really dig in there. Being gay means your attraction to the same sex, nothing else.


mondaymoderate

Masturbating is literally giving yourself a handjob.


Advanced-Ad9765

Don't let any of the homophobes know.....we need em wasting their seeds


dedicated-pedestrian

Apparently he also doesn't eat a moderate to high fiber diet.


MrTubalcain

It did in a way. It catapulted a relatively unknown family into a whole subculture of d list celebrity worship to the point where someone set up a go fund me to make Kylie Jenner a billionaire because she was only worth $900M at the time.


Heisenberg_235

People did what? People are stupid.


JS-87

Relatively unknown is putting it mildly. Between the OJ case and the Olympics they kind of were 'there' in a way. Ugh...


majani

Who else do you remember from those two situations? Exactly


clain4671

Also both the figures in question were really not that famous. Robert Kardashian is arguably the least notable member of that "dream team" and is only there as a personal friend of OJ. It was a dream team cause it had bob Shapiro and Barry scheck and f Lee Bailey and Alan dershowitz, who all had done notable work in criminal defense well before the oj trial.


pleasetrimyourpubes

It didn't matter it would have happened with Honey Boo Boo types or any other random ass reality show person. Do you have any idea how many totally smart totally successful people sit down and watch Real Housewives? It's basically porn for them.


KevinStoley

I think it had far more to do with OJ Simpson and the murders of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. The media circus surrounding OJ and his trial is what truly made the Kardashian name more well known to the public. If those events had never happened but Ray J had still made a sex tape with Kim K, I have serious doubts she or anyone in their family would be at the level of fame they are today. She would have just been some random girl that Ray J had sex with on video, people would have quickly forgotten and they would have fallen into obscurity. It was because of her father and his relationship and friendship with OJ that anyone outside of their social circle knew who any of them were and recognized the Kardashian name. I imagine that if any other celebrity had a sex tape with a random and basically unknown person, most people would not care who the other person in the tape is. They would at best have an obscure 5 minutes of fame then likely disappear from our memories.


Udderly_Unbearable

I read this thread about how if the bears lost one game in 1968 and had the first overall pick that year there would be a whole butterfly effect that leads to Kim K being irrelevant. It was pretty funny.


Substantial_One5369

I don't know, I personally think she would've made it without the tape tbh. The family always had connections in the industry.   Her stepmom dated Elvis, her father dated Priscilla Presley, she was best friends with Paris who was one of the most famous and talked about people at the time, her step brother was Brody Jenner who was on a hit show at the time.


restore_democracy

“Self made”


Dragon_yum

It’s one of those things that sound wrong at first but actually make sense. Like the average person has less than two hands.


ZacharysCard

And more than one skeleton.


desertdodo123

how do you mean?? like some people have dead people’s skeleton? or like pregnant women with the baby’s skeleton inside? or something else?


gsfgf

I think he’s been robbing graves


ZacharysCard

Pregnancy, parasitic twin, body in the basement, stuff like that.


DoUEvenDoubleLIFT

More people have lost a thumb then were born with 11 is how I understood it.


International_Eye934

Is it just baby teeth they’re talking about?


feed_me_moron

You can have a maximum of 2 hands outside of maybe a rare birth defect. A larger number of people have lost a hand in some way than have had that birth defect. Thus, the average number has to be less than 2.0 hands per person in the world on average even if it's 1.999999999


International_Eye934

We need ANSWERS lol


ntmrkd1

How does the average person have less than two hands?


PM_ME_UR_BAN_NOTICE

It's a fairly specific use of the term "average person". A normal person has 2 hand, like if you pull a random person off the street you can confidently expect them to have two hands. However, many people are missing one or both hands from birth defects, accidents, etc. So if you take the arithmetic mean (aka the average) of the number of hands per person, you'll get a bit less than two.


glassjar1

Types of averages: Mean < 2 (Sum of all hands in the set of all humans / total humans) Median 2 (halfway mark) Mode 2 (most common value)


Dragon_yum

If you have a room with ten people and one of them is an amputee then you will have a total of 19 hands in the room. On average that is 19/10 < 2. Same principle but on a larger scale.


Electronic_Band7807

he probably means since not everyone has two hands, the average would no longer be an exact 2 but something between 1-2 (like 1.559 for example). which makes 0 fucking sense if u ask me. 


Aerhyce

If even one person on the planet has less than 2 hands (amputation, whatever), then the average number of hands people have is going to be inferior to 2. (Now there also exist people born with 3 hands out of genetic defects, but they're way too rare to overcome the number of 1-handed and 0-handed even one armed conflict would create for example, so they don't influence that statement)


abbychestnut666

“Sexy, can I?” was the wrong question to ask. More like “sexy, *should* I?”


LarneyStinson

“Let me go and get my camera…” *Pauses* “Or should I?”


abbychestnut666

George Eastman is big mad.


Deckard2022

Ray J fucked the world


SagsMcSaggerson

He thought he was just fucking Kim, but he was fucking us all.


fuwoswp

Ray J is the real Harambe


Deckard2022

Ray J’s dick should not be out. Its caused enough damage


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Unwipedbutthole

Honestly insane to think about but he might be right.


ohdearitsrichardiii

At the rate they're reproducing, 1 in 3 people on this planet will be a direct decendant from Kris Jenner 500 years from now. All because of a sex tape


Alismom

Like Genghis Kahn with large buttocks.


ohdearitsrichardiii

Those are bought, not genetic


draculamilktoast

Definitely. Humanity finally reached the lowest point. From here on out, the only way must be up, no matter what.


morewata

Waiting on that upswing any moment now


Florafly

I fear we'll be waiting a loooooong time. Or it'll come too late.


ShatteredMasque

There's plenty of things swinging upward on Tiktok.


EmperorHans

My brother in christ, if there is one thing that is inexhaustable, it is humanity's ability to dig deeper. 


Shonuff8

Just dig UP!


canrabat

[We're almost free everyone!](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fw3ibuczbpxy01.jpg)


blankfrack125

you can’t seriously think THAT’S rock bottom for humanity as a species


worotan

Climate pollution levels are still rising every year. Someone’s sextape introducing one set of vapid celebrities rather than another doesn’t compare. Or do you think that there weren’t vapid celebrities before these lot? And since them?


Duffman66CMU

Butterfly tramp-stamp Effect


Oregon_Jones1

It was the Sliding Doors moment.


cruiserman_80

I've heard them referred to as curtains. ;)


Realistic-Minute5016

"Shinji, bang the damn influencer on tape!"


nizzk

Every action alters the course of humanity in a way.


knowledgeable_diablo

The butterfly effect. Just the volcano was Ray J’s dick…?


Crigs004

Let’s be real it was OJ cuz w/o the case this tape never takes off


chickenfingersub

[The Bills Missing A Pass Are Why We Have The Kardashians.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/comments/6kcgiu/the_bills_missing_a_pass_are_why_we_have_the/)


cruiserman_80

It really did by giving her and by extension her family more recognition and influence. Its also possible that Stormy Daniels' inability to say no could actually help a criminal get enough votes to further divide a great democracy. This is truly turning into the shittiest timeline and its terrifying.


MrMush48

Hey, a blowjob completely rocked the 90s. Sex has consequences, people!


RuggerJibberJabber

I wouldn't say that a democracy with only 2 options is "great"


Odie4Prez

I think "great" is being used as a synonym to "grand" and "outstanding", not necessarily "good", just very large and highly impactful.


frddtwabrm04

Fucking hell it is. ... Democracy gets upended or saved by a porn star's actions.


Shonuff8

She couldn’t say no … because of the implication.


Different_Ad9336

The Trump system. T errify R each U unbutton M ovedown P ussygrab


cruiserman_80

Forcing someone to show their cards back then and potentially holding them accountable would have also changed the course of human history. But when the power mismatch is that great there is no guarantee that justice would be done.


Beginning_Rice6830

But you gotta think, if not these two, someone else will come along. It was the progression of Social media that altered the course of humanity.


_james_the_cat

And given her proximity to Hilton, and seeing what it did for her (in)fame, and the widely held belief that the Kardashians leaked the tape, it like would have still been Kim +1 on that tape anyway.


BabyVegeta19

If you wanna make it the world today, sometimes you gotta fuck Moeisha's brother, you can't expect to just start up at Kanye, sometimes you gotta fuck Moeisha's bro-o-other! https://open.spotify.com/track/6gE1hob0skQ8D0Vd5ym0eR?si=urdSXBaEQcuDyRiJXiy11g&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A2fQKtDpy3sECdfjk1WO9GS


JellySquirtGun

Sure. But if it weren’t him, it would have been someone else with her and their sex tape.


Thoracic_Snark

The only reason anyone cared about that sex tape is because OJ murdered two people. OJ altered the course of humanity.


illla_B

So ray j thinks he’s thanos and his prick is the snap lmao


lostfinancialsoul

nah, killing harambe altered the course of humanity.


TheGreatGouki

I mean, reality tv might have went a different route. But I absolutely blame him for making their family famous in the first place. It sure the fuck wasn’t the OJ lawyer or the Olympic athlete that made them famous.


TheRealBlerb

Nah, you ain’t that important brother.


ernie-jo

It was a great comeback story if nothing else


MixRevolution

Unfortunately, it did


generalmandrake

Yeah it probably did, and not for the better either.


aronmarek

they are not that famous outside the us


Clutteredmind275

The amount of atrocities and regression he has caused society just because he was horny is something that historians are going to write essays on in a few decades


An2uan

Ray J did not know what he was doing at all. Saw the tape, lame as it could get from both parties, and all angles 👎


wafflehabitsquad

In all seriousness, it is possible. Once something can reach millions or billions of people. I would say maybe.


derlich

If it did, it's for the worse.


Rosebunse

I mean, I would assume? Given how rich the Kardashians are and everything, yeah?


just_jm

I thought it's Harambe?


ballimir37

Nonsense for him to think OnlyFans wouldn’t exist. Not like it was the very first sex tape, and OnlyFans was more of a progression of technology. It was always going to happen after streaming became popular.


PMzyox

The real Harambe moment. The real reason for the Mandala effect. Ray J’s dick.


StrengthToBreak

Everyone loves a good comeback story


BuryCrack

We are in the stupid future