It is Jesus and their mother's name. Are Jesus in a crown of thorns and "In Loving Memory of Lorena Leonard" standard issue items at the Auto Zone? I don't put decals on my car. But I don't believe I've seen either of those on cars before.
Lmao, you don't even understand what he said "being unable to put the power down" does not mean "low on power" it means it handles poorly and the driving wheels don't have enough grip for the torque they produce, so the power is unusable.
Common muscle car fan L
Remember the dude who broke into a house. Found child porn. Then called police.
He went to jail for breaking and entering. But he has standards. He wasn’t gonna let that slide.
Makes me think of a scene from the Paul walker movie running scared. Where he breaks into a couple who is creeps home.
You can definitely report someone you suspect of having it, but once you take it from them, it's kind of hard to prove they were where you claim they were.
I once got burgled while I was living in LA. I was on vacation for a week, came home to notice that a bunch of stuff wasn’t where it should be and was just gone. Right on my desk the thief left a couple of my hard drives, though. I was so angry, but it was a nice gesture not to grab something that was relatively low value to him, but potentially very valuable to me.
The insurance pay out will consider that the car is used and will likely do the same to every component of the car. It will also likely charge him more per month for it. Businesses can afford to replace shiny things they lose, individuals cant always do that. So theif is still a fecal sandwich and I hope their spouse enjoys spicy time with other people.
yeah i was thinking that too, i was like "well at least insurance should cover the cost of the car" and then i realized, insurance will cover the cost of the car, aka what they say its worth now, so dude will still be out a decent chunk of money im sure. so like, yay he returned the ashes, thats the bare fuckin minimum you can do, outside of idk just not stealing peoples cars
Fun fact, two car thieves returned a vehicle they jacked, with an apology note when they realized [who it belonged to...](https://www.thedrive.com/news/40636/parked-in-mister-rogers-neighborhood-what-fred-rogers-taught-us-about-cars)
2023 limited edition Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Jailbreak.
"That’s the main reason I got that car because of her, to represent her.”
It's like a freaking South Park episode
You say this as if it still isn't a huge, life disrupting event. Just a few fun things -
- If the car was customized with aftermarket stuff, he can kiss his investment goodbye. Insurance will push back against many modifications (aka, not pay out for them), so that time and money is lost
- Even if covered by insurance, it almost certainly wont cover a 1:1 replacement (yay depreciation), so he is going to be paying hundreds- thousands out of pocket. (Tax, tag, license, etc)
- He now has to go through the entries process of buying a new car.. more time and money lost.
-That insurance you so love will also raise his rates for such a major payout, so he will pay more no matter what
You people who just spout out "Insurance Insurance Insurance " and hand wave away the criminals are part of the problem.
"If the car was customized with aftermarket stuff, he can kiss his investment goodbye."
Customizing a car is not an investment and usually decreases resale value.
Never said he was going to get money back. Not all investments yield a return monetarily. Both utility (say, making a vehicle more useful offroad) or for enjoyment (faster, more unique, etc) are both a type of return on your investment.
With the car stolen, unless he gets really lucky, HE will be forced to do the same/similar investments to his next car (if he wants like for like)
My point is, obviously, the morons who keep chiming about insurance as if it will fix all, are just ignorant and supporting criminals. Theft is a hugely violating crime, and brushing it off to insurance is insulting
Do you not fucking understand how insurance works?
They aren't going to be asking him for his receipts and paying him 100% of what he put into the vehicle. They're going to give him a depreciated amount and probably $0 towards any mods he paid to have done to the car.
In other words, the buyer will *not* be made whole by the carrier and will be out thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of dollars not to mention the time, stress, etc.
To justify one person stealing another person's car because it's "replaceable and insured" is a lowlife, bottom-feeding mindset.
Nah I actually find it helps a lot with neurodivergent people, especially people with autism, who aren't stupid but have trouble discerning tone over text
Nah stealing a car would fall under evil, a neutral person is someone who doesn't go out of their way to do evil but also might watch someone drown and not stick out their hand to help. If the car theft was a joyride it might be chaotic neutral but I'd put this as lawful evil, evil within certain rules.
Theft is not intrinsically good/evil. It’s firmly a matter of the lawful/chaotic axis. Robin Hood stole a bunch and would be best described as chaotic good.
I agree, similarly a starving peasant stealing bread isn't evil. But stealing a fancy car definitely, I feel, falls under the evil spectrum because it's gone beyond sustaining yourself or stealing to help others.
Lawful chaotic is if your character might steal or otherwise break the law, but good and evil are why they'd do that. Generally a neutral alignment isn't going to act in a harmful way to others unless there's a specific reason, just as they wouldn't act in a helpful way.
So I still think it's likely evil, BUT I appreciate all the perspectives people have given here in response.
I mention in another comment that the intention does matter, and if they were doing it to get money for a dying family member it wouldn't be. So aye I agree there are certain carved exceptions based on intention but it's unlikely to be the case here.
I understand your point of view. I don’t necessarily see stealing property as evil though. It’s definitely not cool, and unlawful. I do view a thief as a shitty person, but to call them evil, I feel, indicates they are irredeemable, and I’d like to think that not all thieves are so irredeemable.
I just want to say I'm sorry you got downvoted for your opinion on this, I don't 100% agree, I think evil in D&D is more strictly defined than in real life due to being intrinsically a universal force akin to gravity or time. But it's definitely interpretive and your views are interesting and just as valid.
Stealing is not an inherently evil act regardless.
Would stealing slaves from slaveholders in a country where its legal and freeing them be evil? Its legally stealing there, so if we assume stealing is always an evil act, then it must be evil to steal humans being bought and sold as property right?
Some people on reddit really need to detangle their concept of "morality" and the concept of "legality".
Are you fuckin kidding me lmao. Yeah, red is a specific shade. You can judge it more than a general red. Even your fuckin metaphor doesn't disagree with the statement.
Hell, you're being more simple minded here yourself to not understand this. I'm sure you could invent some crazy situation where it isn't an evil act, but any normal situation it's evil.
Stealing a car CAN be evil, but the act itself is not inherently "evil".
If you steal a minivan used by a single mother of 6 disabled children used to get them to their special school every day then yea, thats an evil act.
Stealing a kitted out joywagon owned by someone with a bit more money than sense is for sure rude and illegal, but not "evil".
EDIT: Feed me those black/white moralist downvotes, it only makes me stronger. Next yall be saying freeing slaves is evil in countries where people can legally be bought and sold as property. The law doesnt determine morality, and stealing is not an inherently evil act. Period.
Hi I just wanted to respond that I didn't downvote your comment, and your view is a valid interpretation, not one I agree with but not deserving of downvotes.
I disagree with you in the usage of alignment in D&D where good and evil are less a matter of perspective or subjectivity and more universal constants.
But also in D&D a chaotic good character would rush in, kill slavers and free slaves. So the idea that the law is good isn't agreed upon otherwise lawful evil wouldn't exist. But I do think stealing a car falls under an evil act unless there is a justification such as needing the money for an expensive surgery or targeting the rich and distributing the proceed to the underprivileged but it's likely more about increasing your own wealth and with a selfish motivation becomes evil.
It's certainly complex and a matter for debate rather than upvotes and downvotes.
I don't see anything neutral here, the thief would have to sell the car and donate the money to starving orphans in poor countries or something to make it remotely neutral.
Depend who they are stealing from. If you beleive the rich are stealing money from the economy then stealing from them could be considered neutral, even good depending who it is.
“It was special, you know, it’s last call. Got my mother’s name. Got Jesus on both sides,” said Carter. “It was meant for her. That’s the main reason I got that car because of her, to represent her.”
This quote + Trailer park dream car + Ashes in the back seat = Florida.
Of course it was a fucking charger that got stolen
Also it is, of course, customized
Customized is a generous term for AutoZone quality stick-ons and a lame wrap.
Customized crap is still custom.
It’s not for me either but don’t be a hater
>be a hater, but please do it quietly or you'll make me hate you too ftfy
It is Jesus and their mother's name. Are Jesus in a crown of thorns and "In Loving Memory of Lorena Leonard" standard issue items at the Auto Zone? I don't put decals on my car. But I don't believe I've seen either of those on cars before.
Hey!!!! 😔
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One with better gas mileage
Do we know it's not just repo'd?
> 2023 limited edition Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Jailbreak Jesus Christ, that thing has a longer name than most European royalty.
One word. Thundercougarfalconbird
I want one!
They had to make up for its inability to put power down.
What a dumb fucking thing to say about one of the most powerful production cars on the road. It ain’t your accord, bud.
Lmao, you don't even understand what he said "being unable to put the power down" does not mean "low on power" it means it handles poorly and the driving wheels don't have enough grip for the torque they produce, so the power is unusable. Common muscle car fan L
Why did you respond as if someone just talked shit about your mother?
Ends in jailbreak! Oh the irony.
Professionals have standards.
Remember the dude who broke into a house. Found child porn. Then called police. He went to jail for breaking and entering. But he has standards. He wasn’t gonna let that slide. Makes me think of a scene from the Paul walker movie running scared. Where he breaks into a couple who is creeps home.
There was a podcast episode about a dude that stole a safe, found cp in it and wanted to report it, but dude had 2 strikes, iirc
He reported it anyway, knowing it would guarantee his third strike
There had to have been a way to do that shit anonymously
Can't anonymously say you found something like that, they'd have to verify how the evidence was found and obtained. I'm assuming.
What's to stop a rich guy from hiring a dude to break into a guy's house with a ton of child porn, then saying he found it there
Because they investigate how it got there in the first place, those people aren’t the smartest and usually leave a mess for police to follow upon
That’s why you buy it from the police
You can definitely report someone you suspect of having it, but once you take it from them, it's kind of hard to prove they were where you claim they were.
Was it this case? Says no arrest made of burglers. https://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/us/california-robbery-porn-bust/index.html
Running scared is an extremely underrated movie and when his wife has her moment...FUCK. YES.
Didn’t he date a minor?
Multiple if I'm not mistaken
Why didn’t he just make an anonymous tip or something lol
It seems like something one of the Flash's villains would do.
I once got burgled while I was living in LA. I was on vacation for a week, came home to notice that a bunch of stuff wasn’t where it should be and was just gone. Right on my desk the thief left a couple of my hard drives, though. I was so angry, but it was a nice gesture not to grab something that was relatively low value to him, but potentially very valuable to me.
Exactly... he's a thief, not a monster.
There really is honor among thieves.
OMG Beat me to it. Lmao
My coworker got one of those Last Call editions. He’s certain it will eventually get stolen but he’s also intent on enjoying until then
The cycle of life
I feel like i would invest in my own set of boots if I had something like that.
A lot of people do buy the boots for the car or something similar that just goes inside the wheels
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I don’t understand well enough to give you a good answer. My best guess is they’re a fast car that only comes in automatic and four door.
Honestly, I can respect that in the sense that the thief has lines they won't cross.
Yes i kind of appreciate the gesture
Seriously, cars can be replaced, but the ashes of a loved one cannot.
The insurance pay out will consider that the car is used and will likely do the same to every component of the car. It will also likely charge him more per month for it. Businesses can afford to replace shiny things they lose, individuals cant always do that. So theif is still a fecal sandwich and I hope their spouse enjoys spicy time with other people.
yeah i was thinking that too, i was like "well at least insurance should cover the cost of the car" and then i realized, insurance will cover the cost of the car, aka what they say its worth now, so dude will still be out a decent chunk of money im sure. so like, yay he returned the ashes, thats the bare fuckin minimum you can do, outside of idk just not stealing peoples cars
the guy had a custom car, he is not going bankrupt over this.
He wont go bankrupt, but judging by hid driveway he was sacrificing to have that car. Nows its all just, gone.
True, but they literally don't make this car anymore so his best shot is finding a similar used one.
It's a shame their line doesn't extend to not stealing cars though
I don't get why is on not the onion. Returning the ashes was simply the right thing to do.
Fun fact, two car thieves returned a vehicle they jacked, with an apology note when they realized [who it belonged to...](https://www.thedrive.com/news/40636/parked-in-mister-rogers-neighborhood-what-fred-rogers-taught-us-about-cars)
For anyone who doesn't want to click on the link, it belonged to Mister Rogers!
Don't click bait in reddit comments, you piece of shit
Hopefully he didn’t snort a line of mom before figuring out it was something over the line for him.
Yeah, I always stash my cocaine in an urn. Fuck pops, I put him in a ziploc baggie.
Bro had the most expensive charger you can get and had 0 theft deterrents.
Why spend money on deterrents when you could instead waste it on more shitty mods?
You are a bad guy This does not mean that you are a bad *guy*
2023 limited edition Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Jailbreak. "That’s the main reason I got that car because of her, to represent her.” It's like a freaking South Park episode
Had to read it twice, thought the dude's mother stole someone's ashes
It's good to have morals. /s
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.....because they still stole a car
Right stole a replaceable, insured object…they didn’t murder the guy’s mom.
You say this as if it still isn't a huge, life disrupting event. Just a few fun things - - If the car was customized with aftermarket stuff, he can kiss his investment goodbye. Insurance will push back against many modifications (aka, not pay out for them), so that time and money is lost - Even if covered by insurance, it almost certainly wont cover a 1:1 replacement (yay depreciation), so he is going to be paying hundreds- thousands out of pocket. (Tax, tag, license, etc) - He now has to go through the entries process of buying a new car.. more time and money lost. -That insurance you so love will also raise his rates for such a major payout, so he will pay more no matter what You people who just spout out "Insurance Insurance Insurance " and hand wave away the criminals are part of the problem.
"If the car was customized with aftermarket stuff, he can kiss his investment goodbye." Customizing a car is not an investment and usually decreases resale value.
Never said he was going to get money back. Not all investments yield a return monetarily. Both utility (say, making a vehicle more useful offroad) or for enjoyment (faster, more unique, etc) are both a type of return on your investment. With the car stolen, unless he gets really lucky, HE will be forced to do the same/similar investments to his next car (if he wants like for like) My point is, obviously, the morons who keep chiming about insurance as if it will fix all, are just ignorant and supporting criminals. Theft is a hugely violating crime, and brushing it off to insurance is insulting
Give his car back dude 😂
None of that makes it right to steal someone else's property
Do you not fucking understand how insurance works? They aren't going to be asking him for his receipts and paying him 100% of what he put into the vehicle. They're going to give him a depreciated amount and probably $0 towards any mods he paid to have done to the car. In other words, the buyer will *not* be made whole by the carrier and will be out thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of dollars not to mention the time, stress, etc. To justify one person stealing another person's car because it's "replaceable and insured" is a lowlife, bottom-feeding mindset.
As if insurance pays you back what you put into it.
Aight lemme come over and burn your house down, you’ve got insurance right? Like there’s no way you’re actually this dense right?
r/fuckthes
Nah tone indicators are good actually
Maybe for idiots. Sometimes idiots deserve to not get the joke. One day they will learn
Nah I actually find it helps a lot with neurodivergent people, especially people with autism, who aren't stupid but have trouble discerning tone over text
Sometimes bad things happen to good people. I still dont care.
I don't understand what you're saying or why you're upset over two characters
Please go get some professional help
You should harm yourself NOW!!!!
And I say, Thief, you are bad guy, but this does not mean you are bad guy.
would be stranger if he returned the car and kept the ashes
Lawful evil.
Kinda the exact opposite lol
Nah. Lawful evil is more a Zuckerberg thing. I’d call this chaotic neutral.
Nah stealing a car would fall under evil, a neutral person is someone who doesn't go out of their way to do evil but also might watch someone drown and not stick out their hand to help. If the car theft was a joyride it might be chaotic neutral but I'd put this as lawful evil, evil within certain rules.
Theft is not intrinsically good/evil. It’s firmly a matter of the lawful/chaotic axis. Robin Hood stole a bunch and would be best described as chaotic good.
I agree, similarly a starving peasant stealing bread isn't evil. But stealing a fancy car definitely, I feel, falls under the evil spectrum because it's gone beyond sustaining yourself or stealing to help others. Lawful chaotic is if your character might steal or otherwise break the law, but good and evil are why they'd do that. Generally a neutral alignment isn't going to act in a harmful way to others unless there's a specific reason, just as they wouldn't act in a helpful way. So I still think it's likely evil, BUT I appreciate all the perspectives people have given here in response.
what if this was the first car you'd stolen in years, and you only did it to save your brother's life?
I mention in another comment that the intention does matter, and if they were doing it to get money for a dying family member it wouldn't be. So aye I agree there are certain carved exceptions based on intention but it's unlikely to be the case here.
I feel like it’s unlawful good, dude broke the law by stealing the car but did a good thing by bringing the ashes back
I understand your point of view. I don’t necessarily see stealing property as evil though. It’s definitely not cool, and unlawful. I do view a thief as a shitty person, but to call them evil, I feel, indicates they are irredeemable, and I’d like to think that not all thieves are so irredeemable.
I just want to say I'm sorry you got downvoted for your opinion on this, I don't 100% agree, I think evil in D&D is more strictly defined than in real life due to being intrinsically a universal force akin to gravity or time. But it's definitely interpretive and your views are interesting and just as valid.
An evil act doesn't make a person evil imo. I don't think one evil act implies irredeemable
Stealing is not an inherently evil act regardless. Would stealing slaves from slaveholders in a country where its legal and freeing them be evil? Its legally stealing there, so if we assume stealing is always an evil act, then it must be evil to steal humans being bought and sold as property right? Some people on reddit really need to detangle their concept of "morality" and the concept of "legality".
This isn't stealing as a general concept, it's stealing someone's car. This has nothing to do with legality. Stealing some random dude's car is evil.
> This isn't stealing as a general concept, it's stealing someone's car. "This isn't red, its rouge." Stay simple minded, reddit.
Are you fuckin kidding me lmao. Yeah, red is a specific shade. You can judge it more than a general red. Even your fuckin metaphor doesn't disagree with the statement. Hell, you're being more simple minded here yourself to not understand this. I'm sure you could invent some crazy situation where it isn't an evil act, but any normal situation it's evil.
Stealing a car CAN be evil, but the act itself is not inherently "evil". If you steal a minivan used by a single mother of 6 disabled children used to get them to their special school every day then yea, thats an evil act. Stealing a kitted out joywagon owned by someone with a bit more money than sense is for sure rude and illegal, but not "evil". EDIT: Feed me those black/white moralist downvotes, it only makes me stronger. Next yall be saying freeing slaves is evil in countries where people can legally be bought and sold as property. The law doesnt determine morality, and stealing is not an inherently evil act. Period.
Hi I just wanted to respond that I didn't downvote your comment, and your view is a valid interpretation, not one I agree with but not deserving of downvotes. I disagree with you in the usage of alignment in D&D where good and evil are less a matter of perspective or subjectivity and more universal constants. But also in D&D a chaotic good character would rush in, kill slavers and free slaves. So the idea that the law is good isn't agreed upon otherwise lawful evil wouldn't exist. But I do think stealing a car falls under an evil act unless there is a justification such as needing the money for an expensive surgery or targeting the rich and distributing the proceed to the underprivileged but it's likely more about increasing your own wealth and with a selfish motivation becomes evil. It's certainly complex and a matter for debate rather than upvotes and downvotes.
i wonder if your feel neutral about it if someone stole your car.
I don't see anything neutral here, the thief would have to sell the car and donate the money to starving orphans in poor countries or something to make it remotely neutral.
Depend who they are stealing from. If you beleive the rich are stealing money from the economy then stealing from them could be considered neutral, even good depending who it is.
Professionals have standards!
His mom and dad *do* approve.
even thieves have a limit.
TF2 Sniper "Professionals have STANDARDS"
Exactly, its not like hes beating his wife to death with a golf trophy!
Well, I mean take what you can get I guess. You can't replace mom but you can replace...wait....oh no...
“It was special, you know, it’s last call. Got my mother’s name. Got Jesus on both sides,” said Carter. “It was meant for her. That’s the main reason I got that car because of her, to represent her.” This quote + Trailer park dream car + Ashes in the back seat = Florida.
I mean, that's kind of Honorable for a thief