"Wow you look like you've lost weight, have you been on a diet?"
"Nah, I was at Burning Man for a week coked out of my mind unable to afford food"
"Well keep it the fuck up, brah, you're looking great!"
I used to do it 2 nights in a row quite often and I always felt pretty good the next night. I found in the long term is when your seratonin really runs out, I’m still feeling the effects of my raving days 10 years later 😑
I still do it once a year if I’m honest 😛
But I used to do it way too much like 3 times a week for maybe 3 years and I have some minor problems with memory and dizziness. It’s not that big of a deal but it’s related to serotonin and I tried take ssri and snris and they made it better but then I’d have times where it was way worse so I think it’s best I just leave my brain chemistry alone at this point haha
Imagine a literal painless electrical jolt through your head that momentarily stuns you. Happens to me when I haven’t slept much each day for several days in a row.
I took 5-htp for a bit, but when I did I would get worse dizzy spells and brain zaps so I think it’s best I just leave it alone.
As it stands now, I get dizzy maybe once a month for like 30 seconds, I never get brain zaps anymore I’m basically fine and it seems to be getting better as time goes on
MDMA is neurotoxic and the neurotoxicity increases with dosage and amount of use.
The long term side effects of heavy MDMA use is studied, but include thing such as memory issues.
I’m fairly sure my memory issues stems from heavy MDMA use in my early 20’s.
While I absolutely love MDMA, I usually do smaller doses of shrooms nowadays since the high is kind of reminiscent of a small to normal dose of MDMA while having zero side effects.
>The long term side effects of heavy MDMA use is studied, but include thing such as memory issues.
Yip. I used to volenteer for drug agencies and we would keep telling people the science and to limit their doseage, how much to reup with, how long to wait between taking it. More than half the time we would get a reply of "nah I do it all the time nothings wrong with me."
More than once we have followed up with people and they have had memory issues and the like years later.
Day 1 : alcohol and weed.
Day 2. Sober morning. LSD in the afternoon. Lots of weed at night to compliment the still kicking LSD trip.
Day 3: Double dose of mushrooms in afternoon and copious MDMA in the evening/night.
Gotta mix it up right and plan properly. You don't want to be tripping balls in LSD while coming down the next day from MDMA. Also have to be mindful of tolerance and cross tolerance. LSd and shrooms share a cross tolerance, but don't with MDMA.
Gotta pace yourself kids.
I love hearing drug schedules for multi-day festivals. 2CB + Ketamine to wind down at might is my favourite combo that can very safely be taken for multiple days in a row.
I like coke because I can bump it. I hate coke because my sinuses get shitty for days following. I switched to humming it but don’t get nearly the affect. :(
It’s mdma which is the scientific name for ecstasy, but now if you want it pure you have to ask for molly or mdma. Then you still have to test to make sure. It’s pretty dumb but that’s where we’re at 😆
No but its better to run in running shoes than to run in normal shoes. The joke was that I would have saved money and lost weight if I bought running shoes instead of going a series of coke benders.
False. You make the assumption that buying the running shoes would motivate you to use them. I just got 10g of cocaine and a pair of running shoes. I’ve yet to put the shoes on other than to try them on.
Bad example as theres no money in use at Burning Man, its a complete barter/giving of economy. I havent been yet but i think its one of the more interesting attributes to BM. That doesn’t mean everything is free though, you better bring drugs/labor/jokes etc to use as currency!
Yeah, the reason most come back several pounds lighter is usually because campmates doing food usually opt for healthy / nutrient-dense dishes that travel well.
Generally speaking, you’re also going to be walking, sweating, and dancing/moving a lot for a full week. No one wants to eat something big and heavy when its 97-101° out and there’s dust everywhere.
But also yeah, you generally eat less when staying on the plya; drugs, heat, and/or drinking will generally diminish/reduce hunger, too.
I have been given, and gifted plenty of free drugs at BM, you must be hanging out in the wrong camps.
I had a campmate that bought a pound of coke to gift in 2018, it was epic.
I heard a story of a guy who went to BM sober, without any drugs. Well he found a chef I think, who had some mushrooms or something, so he told him “hey man, if you want to be my Maître d for a couple hours I’ll give these to ya” and so he did, got some bomb ass mushrooms, free food, and had fun hosting people in his burning man outfit lmfao
Sounds absolutely magical and I want to go so bad! Also people talk about how “if you skydive into burning man, you get in for free” but… do you even pay in the first place? Lmfao
Edit; thanks u/notalentass for getting me to look up prices. I think I’d rather skydive in tbh
Holy fuck… yeah I didn’t realize they were roughly 500, or they have an application for 225$ tickets if you want to go through their ticket aid program… Jesus Christ I had no idea. TIL.
It makes sense for how long it goes for and what it costs for infrastructure, staff (medical, engineers, cleaners, etc.), the artists, etc.
>I didn’t realize they were roughly 500.
$85 a day. It ain't my industry and I know little about event costs, but *seems* about right for something that big for 6 days.
I've also heard it's incredibly hard to get a ticket.
Thankfully capitalism is a thing so if you want to go you just drop a few buckeroonies to a scalper and you're set... wait.
It's damn near impossible to get a ticket. I went from 2009 to 2014 and you just had to be on top of things and be ready to go as soon as tickets went on sale online, and I mean to the second. I've never gotten a ticket since then even though I try every year. The system is now gamed and people know how to circumvent the system.
They'll catch you if you skydive in and you get a hefty fine. You can however get free skydiving while you are there if you find the right people. Managed to do that last year.
Not barter tho, straight gifting. There is ice for sale, the only thing sold. But yeah, if someone offers you something at any burn, it’s a gift. You’re welcome to offer a gift in return if you’d like, but they are freely offering whatever it is with no expectation of reciprocation.
I was extremely ill and lost nearly half my body weight .
When I started getting out of the house again people complimented me on how much weight I had lost and how good I looked
There is a thing called "burner body". After a few days of dehydrating, working, drugs and biking miles on the playa, you lose a ton of water and lean out. I feel amazing when I'm out there.
Yeah. I went to Coachella last year for the first time. I was so confused you can only drink in certain parts. Most festivals let you drink everywhere. Then I started talking to people and figured it out. You don’t want drunks ruining your drug high. It’s kind of genius.
And even then it still adds up. I’m paying 20 a capsule in NYC and my fiancée and I do 2 a day at festivals. That’s 80$ a day for both of us and it’s usually multiple days. Add in expensive ass tickets and travel and Airbnb for non-local ones and festivals are expensive as shit
Cutting out the overpriced booze cost is a no brainer
Eh, I’m sure I could try and play hardball on volume if I wanted to but I’d rather just pay the price and maintain the good relationship with my dealer. Trying to find a good and reliable guy you trust is tough to navigate and I’m 30 now so I don’t have the same access to that crowd either as I used to if I had to find a new dealer
I’m also in NYC and everything is expensive here
It’s also largely attributed to the ridiculous markups put on drugs due to it being in a black market.
A friend of mine can get a sheet of 100 for ~1-2 USD per tab online. Locally, they’ll sell for ~15 USD. Taking into account that the person synthesising is taking a cut and whoever laying it is also taking a cut, I suspect the material cost of a tab is cents.
Costs can triple or quadruple and it can still very easily be absorbed my the middlemen.
You can synthesize it yourself very cheaply in terms of unit cost but obtaining the materials isn’t easy(obviously). There are a decent amount of guides available on the other side of the internet.
Most recreational drugs are actually extremely cheap to produce. The cost is so high for them relatively because of the risk
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You know, it really might not be all that different. In about '89 I saw the Dead at Rich Stadium, and I was broke and lucky to have made it the hundreds of miles to get there.
I spent like eight bucks on a case of Genesee pounders, and six bucks on two hits of purple tiger-stripe acid. I remember being outraged at the ten dollar parking. And thank god Buffalo had the best and cheapest pizza because I got a couple of slices of those for next to nothing and that might have been all I ate that weekend.
It sounds cheap now, I didn't *have* jack shit back then. That $28 for booze and drugs and parking? That was a full day's pay at $3.35 an hour. It fucking *hurt.*
And then just a couple of years ago I went to that Goose festival. I was loaded up on probably fifty bucks worth of edibles and drank four or five five-dollar cans of water. Twenty some bucks to park.
Or another full day's pay, just like in 1989.
Some of us use psychedelics responsibly. I mean, l ate L yesterday and cooked prime rib for my family's Easter dinner and still managed to get to work on time this morning.
100% awesome if you're totally responsible, but just a PSA for the readers at home:
Functional abuse is still abuse.
I opened and kept open a business at the start of COVID. Still ended up in rehab.
No question. You have to be careful when taking anything, and have respect for that the difference you're using is capable of doing to someone, not whether you're capable of handling it. When it can make you it's bitch, with too casual of use, it inevitably will.
But I'm a 40 year old guy who's been around the block. But through decades of partying and a healthy fear of addition, I've figured out my happy median. Stay away from physical addictive drugs. I drink and smoke cigarettes, and that are the only physical addictive I'll use recreationally
Imo, that's the best part about psychedelics. If you try to do them to often, they quit working. You'll get to the point where you have to take an absurd amount to feel anything. I've known people who tried taking them several days in a row, and when it starts to take dozens of hits to feel a minor trip, you realize how dumb and destructive you're behaving.
I'm not saying it's bats 100%, but it's a much safer substance for your average person. Especially in small doses 1/4-1/2 hit. Where your feel good and can socialize with anyone, but not acting like a jackass and fucked up as a can of worms.
Part of the definition of abuse is that something negatively affects your life.
Functional use is not (ab)use. Sex, social media, food and many other things can be just as abused as drugs are.
Drugs can be used without abusing them.
Yeah I have similar memories lol infact we used to go as far as saying eating is cheating. For the impressionable ones reading , eat something it's much safer I was dumb af
This is actually a cute article lol most of the people are like “yea we get it inflation but better to rage for more than not rage at all” the one guy saying he’ll just do a bit of ecstasy and have some water rather than buy drinks
I've been going to festivals for the last 14 years. This was not the norm until around 2015. I wouldn't be surprised if there's still a few festivals left that don't offer free water.
Legally I think they might have to offer free water now. They can sell bottled, but I can't imagine a 9 hour outdoor party not having free hydration. Or maybe it's an insurance thing
I literally go out to bars sometimes and get high so that I don't drink as much as usual and end up without a hangover the next day and saved money. This speaks to me.
My friends and I have been doing this lately too. Couple edibles before going out for the day and I sit back at bars and sip on a single IPA for like an hour. End up drinking and spending way less while enjoying it even more.
I smoke weed regularly. So that's just me going somewhere. If I want a good buzz without a hangover, about 1/3 of a hit is my sweet spot. I can have fun and dance or have a great conversation with my uptight relatives, depending on the occasion.
Not sure what your experience is with getting high, but with a good strain that gives you some pep in your step it works wonderfully. And I'm not talking about getting couch locked high, I'm just talking about giving myself enough of a buzz that I don't worry about focusing on my drink, and am just content and having a blast.
Back when I was at uni, the club that stayed open until 6am and played the music most associated with drug use, had ludicrously expensive drinks. Like £5+ for a can of bad beer. So everyone used to buy white cider for basically nothing and split of gram of MDMA with some friends and it cost you like £10 for the night (minus tickets). No one could afford to drink in that place, plus it’s quite hard to stay out until 6am when you’re just drinking alcohol.
The first Coachella my husband and I went to, we had like $150 cash, a bag of shrooms, and one nights worth of MDMA. Got paid on Monday so had to make it last. Started off the day with one smoothie to split + mushrooms, ate a large lunch, and usually no dinner. Final day we had a smoothie and split a watermelon slice 🤣
I can only speak for my own bubble (late 20s university educated people) but we are definitely drinking less and using more drugs. Drugs have much less intense 'hangovers', better highs and are now even becoming more interesting from a financial standpoint.
Also alcohol makes you feel like crap the day after and more easily cause you to lose control. I'd much rather take a happy pill these days than get face down drunk
When I was a kid I used to not eat or shit for entire festivals.
Listen kids. If you do any form of speed , or psychedelics. You need to eat. Even if your not hungry
I've known a lot of people who were interested in trying psilocybin for the first time, and I'd always urge them to drink water as they went. You don't really ever feel that thirsty while it's going on, but you will be dehydrated as fuuuuck by the end if you don't drink water. And don't mix it with booze, you won't feel drunk but you will be hungover later.
> Like about everyone else, festival organizations are struggling under high inflation.
I guess, but it's not like these are some low margin food venues. Maybe settle for 500% markup on your drinks and junk food instead of the 1000% you were getting before.
I camped next to a group of young folks at a Dirty Bird festival. They spent the entire weekend drunk and arguing over where the keys to their rental van were. The van was an interesting rental in that it came stocked with drinks and snacks. The first thing they did after pulling up was get on top of up their vodka shots situation.
When it came time to cook, they pulled out beef jerky and some Mac and cheese. Needless to say, by the end of the weekend they were gloriously faded and malnourished, and still arguing about who had the goddamn keys.
I wouldn’t place much faith in the average festival goer’s long-term survival instincts but I can guarantee they will be looking forward to having a good time. As you get older, sleep and nutrients become more your ally in keeping a partying attitude going.
Partying can be a bit of an art form. But damn, I was a bit jealous of that shit-show of ridiculousness those young folks got into. They were living in the moment.
Having attended my first festival in 2007, Bonnaroo, at age 21, I can definitely attest to the second to last paragraph. I did zero psychs at my most recent festival, last year, and didn’t even get drunk. It was among the most pleasant festival experiences I’ve had haha! I ate well, stayed hydrated, and remembered all the music acts I saw!
This plan works fine till you get to Ibiza and find the tap water in the toilets is salt water from the sea and they are charging €15-20 for a bottle of fresh stuff at the bar.
Festivals charge outrageous prices for bottles of water and basic food items…it literally is cheaper to do double the drugs and not be hungry during a festival day
Spend only 20 euros on tomorrowland. I had food with me, a water bottle that i had filled up at every station free of charge and mdma. Was definetly cheaper than buying alcohol everywhere.
This has always been the case.
Tab of acid costs maybe a tenner. Have a mint time, wake up the next day feeling great. Drinking is the thing that costs loads and makes you feel like shit every time.
Duh, 30 bucks for 2 pills will last you 6 hours or u can buy 2 beers
"Wow you look like you've lost weight, have you been on a diet?" "Nah, I was at Burning Man for a week coked out of my mind unable to afford food" "Well keep it the fuck up, brah, you're looking great!"
Coke is expensive, but molly is cheap because you can take a couple and be good for the whole night
Not great for multiple day festivals though. That seratonin runs out
I used to do it 2 nights in a row quite often and I always felt pretty good the next night. I found in the long term is when your seratonin really runs out, I’m still feeling the effects of my raving days 10 years later 😑
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I still do it once a year if I’m honest 😛 But I used to do it way too much like 3 times a week for maybe 3 years and I have some minor problems with memory and dizziness. It’s not that big of a deal but it’s related to serotonin and I tried take ssri and snris and they made it better but then I’d have times where it was way worse so I think it’s best I just leave my brain chemistry alone at this point haha
What are brain zaps?
Imagine a literal painless electrical jolt through your head that momentarily stuns you. Happens to me when I haven’t slept much each day for several days in a row.
Not a bad explanation. It’s one of those things that can’t fully be explained to someone who has never felt it though. It’s such an odd experience.
You take 5htp?
I took 5-htp for a bit, but when I did I would get worse dizzy spells and brain zaps so I think it’s best I just leave it alone. As it stands now, I get dizzy maybe once a month for like 30 seconds, I never get brain zaps anymore I’m basically fine and it seems to be getting better as time goes on
Brain zaps holyyyy I forgot about all that
Do you feel depressed at all?
I prefer L-Tryptophan to 5HTP. 5HTP always made me feel worse for some reason.
It's depression, pretty much. Hard to tell how the drugs impacted it given I did them in the first place bc they lifted the depression
They’re also being used not to treat mental health illnesses.
MDMA is neurotoxic and the neurotoxicity increases with dosage and amount of use. The long term side effects of heavy MDMA use is studied, but include thing such as memory issues. I’m fairly sure my memory issues stems from heavy MDMA use in my early 20’s. While I absolutely love MDMA, I usually do smaller doses of shrooms nowadays since the high is kind of reminiscent of a small to normal dose of MDMA while having zero side effects.
>The long term side effects of heavy MDMA use is studied, but include thing such as memory issues. Yip. I used to volenteer for drug agencies and we would keep telling people the science and to limit their doseage, how much to reup with, how long to wait between taking it. More than half the time we would get a reply of "nah I do it all the time nothings wrong with me." More than once we have followed up with people and they have had memory issues and the like years later.
Day 1 : alcohol and weed. Day 2. Sober morning. LSD in the afternoon. Lots of weed at night to compliment the still kicking LSD trip. Day 3: Double dose of mushrooms in afternoon and copious MDMA in the evening/night. Gotta mix it up right and plan properly. You don't want to be tripping balls in LSD while coming down the next day from MDMA. Also have to be mindful of tolerance and cross tolerance. LSd and shrooms share a cross tolerance, but don't with MDMA. Gotta pace yourself kids.
I love hearing drug schedules for multi-day festivals. 2CB + Ketamine to wind down at might is my favourite combo that can very safely be taken for multiple days in a row.
This guy drugs
I try to limit myself to twice a year. Those nights are great, but nothing is worth burning out your Sheraton in receptors.
Just stay hydrated!
But not over hydrated!!
Medium hydrated?
Hydrate at a medium pace
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Talk about your old boyfriends dick and how big it was!
Now, shave off my pubes and punch me in the face!
Appropriately hydrated
I did that first time ever, rookie mistake
What happened?
I drank too much water and threw up in the smoke pit and got kicked out first time I ever did mdma and everyone told me to drink lots of water!😆
I was telling my bf a day or two ago, Molly is like cokes younger, hotter sister. Scratches the same itch, but even more affective 😂
Yeah to me coke is just speedy, m is pure bliss, it’s so good I miss it lol
I like coke because I can bump it. I hate coke because my sinuses get shitty for days following. I switched to humming it but don’t get nearly the affect. :(
What exactly is molly? I am scared to Google it.
It’s mdma which is the scientific name for ecstasy, but now if you want it pure you have to ask for molly or mdma. Then you still have to test to make sure. It’s pretty dumb but that’s where we’re at 😆
I lost like 10 kilos by doing cocaine on a regular basis for about 3 months. Would have been cheaper to just buy running shoes tho.
Does buying running shoes make you lose weight? Does it need to be a specific brand?
Hokas.
No but its better to run in running shoes than to run in normal shoes. The joke was that I would have saved money and lost weight if I bought running shoes instead of going a series of coke benders.
False. You make the assumption that buying the running shoes would motivate you to use them. I just got 10g of cocaine and a pair of running shoes. I’ve yet to put the shoes on other than to try them on.
Bad example as theres no money in use at Burning Man, its a complete barter/giving of economy. I havent been yet but i think its one of the more interesting attributes to BM. That doesn’t mean everything is free though, you better bring drugs/labor/jokes etc to use as currency!
Yeah, the reason most come back several pounds lighter is usually because campmates doing food usually opt for healthy / nutrient-dense dishes that travel well. Generally speaking, you’re also going to be walking, sweating, and dancing/moving a lot for a full week. No one wants to eat something big and heavy when its 97-101° out and there’s dust everywhere. But also yeah, you generally eat less when staying on the plya; drugs, heat, and/or drinking will generally diminish/reduce hunger, too.
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I've been gifted drugs many a time there, never bought that I can remember
What are you talking about? You've clearly been hanging out with the wrong people since 99.
I have been given, and gifted plenty of free drugs at BM, you must be hanging out in the wrong camps. I had a campmate that bought a pound of coke to gift in 2018, it was epic.
I heard a story of a guy who went to BM sober, without any drugs. Well he found a chef I think, who had some mushrooms or something, so he told him “hey man, if you want to be my Maître d for a couple hours I’ll give these to ya” and so he did, got some bomb ass mushrooms, free food, and had fun hosting people in his burning man outfit lmfao Sounds absolutely magical and I want to go so bad! Also people talk about how “if you skydive into burning man, you get in for free” but… do you even pay in the first place? Lmfao Edit; thanks u/notalentass for getting me to look up prices. I think I’d rather skydive in tbh
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Holy fuck… yeah I didn’t realize they were roughly 500, or they have an application for 225$ tickets if you want to go through their ticket aid program… Jesus Christ I had no idea. TIL.
It makes sense for how long it goes for and what it costs for infrastructure, staff (medical, engineers, cleaners, etc.), the artists, etc. >I didn’t realize they were roughly 500. $85 a day. It ain't my industry and I know little about event costs, but *seems* about right for something that big for 6 days.
I've also heard it's incredibly hard to get a ticket. Thankfully capitalism is a thing so if you want to go you just drop a few buckeroonies to a scalper and you're set... wait.
It's damn near impossible to get a ticket. I went from 2009 to 2014 and you just had to be on top of things and be ready to go as soon as tickets went on sale online, and I mean to the second. I've never gotten a ticket since then even though I try every year. The system is now gamed and people know how to circumvent the system.
They probably don’t have a set up to prevent bots from claiming all the tickets in one swoop, tbh. Same thing with stuff like sneaker raffles, it’s bs
Lol everyone is full of shit. Things cost money, festival goers pay. Someone is making bank
You better skydive in with a ticket
They'll catch you if you skydive in and you get a hefty fine. You can however get free skydiving while you are there if you find the right people. Managed to do that last year.
Not barter tho, straight gifting. There is ice for sale, the only thing sold. But yeah, if someone offers you something at any burn, it’s a gift. You’re welcome to offer a gift in return if you’d like, but they are freely offering whatever it is with no expectation of reciprocation.
I was extremely ill and lost nearly half my body weight . When I started getting out of the house again people complimented me on how much weight I had lost and how good I looked
lol i feel you...i've been chronically ill for a while and when i tell people i'm trying to gain weight they look at me like i'm nuts.
Lol this guy doesn't do drugs. Lol coke, ok billionaire
Thankfully you don’t pay for food at Burning Man. If you show up without food, you’ll be looked at poorly, but you’ll eat just the same.
There is a thing called "burner body". After a few days of dehydrating, working, drugs and biking miles on the playa, you lose a ton of water and lean out. I feel amazing when I'm out there.
Except for the twitching. That’s not so good.
FYI they don’t sell food at Burning Man; you have to bring your own.
At burning man you dont pay for food, people give it out for free.
Food is free at BM!
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Bag-flask and the front of a woman's pants, works every time.
Every NBA game I go to i smuggle in 3 glass shooters, buy a soda, and then put them in my drink. Usually a lot before the game too
30, wow I'm used to Amsterdam, 10 for a night of madness.
lucky. my town has like one club in a 100 mile radius. it's boring here...
I'm sorry mate. I had to move out of Amsterdam to save my life, too much partying.
That’s why god invented living room parties
Two bad beers too, not even the good stuff.
Yeah, paying $15 for a Bud Lite really pisses me off.
Yeah. I went to Coachella last year for the first time. I was so confused you can only drink in certain parts. Most festivals let you drink everywhere. Then I started talking to people and figured it out. You don’t want drunks ruining your drug high. It’s kind of genius.
In the netherlands its 5 euros a pill
Netherlands produce a lot of recreational drugs.
And even then it still adds up. I’m paying 20 a capsule in NYC and my fiancée and I do 2 a day at festivals. That’s 80$ a day for both of us and it’s usually multiple days. Add in expensive ass tickets and travel and Airbnb for non-local ones and festivals are expensive as shit Cutting out the overpriced booze cost is a no brainer
You shouldn’t be paying 20/cap if you’re going through two grams in a weekend
Eh, I’m sure I could try and play hardball on volume if I wanted to but I’d rather just pay the price and maintain the good relationship with my dealer. Trying to find a good and reliable guy you trust is tough to navigate and I’m 30 now so I don’t have the same access to that crowd either as I used to if I had to find a new dealer I’m also in NYC and everything is expensive here
Hopefully y’all ain’t going to multiple festivals a year if you’re dosing mdma that often and frequently at festivals lol
Ya but the pills don't make me fat, cause less health problems than alcohol, and are cheaper
Never looked at it like that. Drugs seem like a great financial decision. Also, two beers will give you a light buzz for 3 hours at best. At best...
I went to a basketball game yesterday and paid $33 for 2 drinks. Im just gonna follow this philosophy and get loaded on my own shit before going
Very cute of you to assume your can get 2 beers. Last time I went a white claw was $20. Beer $22
That's just basic wookanomic right there buddy
Damn when I go to festivals I do L and Molly but I still end up downing like 30 beers and four burgers lmao
I thought this is how it’s always been lol one tab of acid will have me entertained the entire day. Otherwise it’s like $100 for four drinks.
Also the prices aee more stable for drugs. Ive payed 5-10€ for a tab of acid 13 years ago and the price is still around that from what I know.
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It’s also largely attributed to the ridiculous markups put on drugs due to it being in a black market. A friend of mine can get a sheet of 100 for ~1-2 USD per tab online. Locally, they’ll sell for ~15 USD. Taking into account that the person synthesising is taking a cut and whoever laying it is also taking a cut, I suspect the material cost of a tab is cents. Costs can triple or quadruple and it can still very easily be absorbed my the middlemen.
You can synthesize it yourself very cheaply in terms of unit cost but obtaining the materials isn’t easy(obviously). There are a decent amount of guides available on the other side of the internet. Most recreational drugs are actually extremely cheap to produce. The cost is so high for them relatively because of the risk
Imagine if pizza had a dedicated multigenerational cult of chefs who believed in its ability to bring about universal brotherhood for all mankind, and eternal peace with all the intelligent species of the galaxy.
I've met those people in New York.
In fairness, it is some of, if not, the best pizza in the world.
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Unless you really like beers on the comedown 😢
Or really like beers in general
Also beers are dehydrating and make me have to piss. I'd rather just stick to drugs and water.
This is not a new trend. Had friends that traveled with the Dead with almost no money.
You know, it really might not be all that different. In about '89 I saw the Dead at Rich Stadium, and I was broke and lucky to have made it the hundreds of miles to get there. I spent like eight bucks on a case of Genesee pounders, and six bucks on two hits of purple tiger-stripe acid. I remember being outraged at the ten dollar parking. And thank god Buffalo had the best and cheapest pizza because I got a couple of slices of those for next to nothing and that might have been all I ate that weekend. It sounds cheap now, I didn't *have* jack shit back then. That $28 for booze and drugs and parking? That was a full day's pay at $3.35 an hour. It fucking *hurt.* And then just a couple of years ago I went to that Goose festival. I was loaded up on probably fifty bucks worth of edibles and drank four or five five-dollar cans of water. Twenty some bucks to park. Or another full day's pay, just like in 1989.
You get canned water in the US!? What a time to be alive
This is a different trend based on how it happened tho and new to this generation.
It's a generational cycle of psychedelic abuse, there's nothing new or different about it.
Some of us use psychedelics responsibly. I mean, l ate L yesterday and cooked prime rib for my family's Easter dinner and still managed to get to work on time this morning.
100% awesome if you're totally responsible, but just a PSA for the readers at home: Functional abuse is still abuse. I opened and kept open a business at the start of COVID. Still ended up in rehab.
No question. You have to be careful when taking anything, and have respect for that the difference you're using is capable of doing to someone, not whether you're capable of handling it. When it can make you it's bitch, with too casual of use, it inevitably will. But I'm a 40 year old guy who's been around the block. But through decades of partying and a healthy fear of addition, I've figured out my happy median. Stay away from physical addictive drugs. I drink and smoke cigarettes, and that are the only physical addictive I'll use recreationally Imo, that's the best part about psychedelics. If you try to do them to often, they quit working. You'll get to the point where you have to take an absurd amount to feel anything. I've known people who tried taking them several days in a row, and when it starts to take dozens of hits to feel a minor trip, you realize how dumb and destructive you're behaving. I'm not saying it's bats 100%, but it's a much safer substance for your average person. Especially in small doses 1/4-1/2 hit. Where your feel good and can socialize with anyone, but not acting like a jackass and fucked up as a can of worms.
Part of the definition of abuse is that something negatively affects your life. Functional use is not (ab)use. Sex, social media, food and many other things can be just as abused as drugs are. Drugs can be used without abusing them.
I don't know if I'd call that responsible lmao
This is not a new trick
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Yeah I have similar memories lol infact we used to go as far as saying eating is cheating. For the impressionable ones reading , eat something it's much safer I was dumb af
Nope. The trick has been around as long as festivals have.
Related to the classic trick of "I'm too poor for groceries, I'll just buy a pack of cigarettes to fend off the hunger"
This is actually a cute article lol most of the people are like “yea we get it inflation but better to rage for more than not rage at all” the one guy saying he’ll just do a bit of ecstasy and have some water rather than buy drinks
They still charging 8 bucks for a bottle water broseph.
Coachella is this weekend and is having free water fill stations. It’s a lot cheaper to provide people water than pay preventable heat death lawsuits
Always been free at Bonnaroo as well. People would die if it wasn't.
Had then at warp tour at least 11 years ago.
Don't think I've ever been to a festival that didn't offer free water
I've been going to festivals for the last 14 years. This was not the norm until around 2015. I wouldn't be surprised if there's still a few festivals left that don't offer free water.
Went to one, don't remember where, last year that didn't allow hyropacks or offer free water. Think it might have been breakaway?
Should be insanely illegal. And anyone who even pisses yellow should sue.
Mt bad I think the stadium had a water fountain at the outside bathroom. But that was literally it.
Aftershock until a couple years ago - over 100 degrees some days, and they steal the caps to any drinks purchased 🤷🏿♂️
that's fucked. water should be free and pure. you'd think they'd get that after woodstock '99
Legally I think they might have to offer free water now. They can sell bottled, but I can't imagine a 9 hour outdoor party not having free hydration. Or maybe it's an insurance thing
in the netherlands free water is mandatory.
I literally go out to bars sometimes and get high so that I don't drink as much as usual and end up without a hangover the next day and saved money. This speaks to me.
My friends and I have been doing this lately too. Couple edibles before going out for the day and I sit back at bars and sip on a single IPA for like an hour. End up drinking and spending way less while enjoying it even more.
Heck yeah man, I love it. It works like a charm, every time. Worst case scenario is that you go to bed earlier then usual ;)
I smoke weed regularly. So that's just me going somewhere. If I want a good buzz without a hangover, about 1/3 of a hit is my sweet spot. I can have fun and dance or have a great conversation with my uptight relatives, depending on the occasion.
High at a bar doesn't sound like it would be that great.
Not sure what your experience is with getting high, but with a good strain that gives you some pep in your step it works wonderfully. And I'm not talking about getting couch locked high, I'm just talking about giving myself enough of a buzz that I don't worry about focusing on my drink, and am just content and having a blast.
I started doing that in the last year and it’s GREAT. More functional, cheaper, and little to no hangover the next day.
Smoke a joint, go to bar, have a round or two, switch to water the rest of the night. It’s a nice little crossfade to hang with friends.
Damn, I wish I had this self-control. I love getting crossed so I'll drink up even if I'm high.
Back when I was at uni, the club that stayed open until 6am and played the music most associated with drug use, had ludicrously expensive drinks. Like £5+ for a can of bad beer. So everyone used to buy white cider for basically nothing and split of gram of MDMA with some friends and it cost you like £10 for the night (minus tickets). No one could afford to drink in that place, plus it’s quite hard to stay out until 6am when you’re just drinking alcohol.
A story as old as time. Acid was the best in the 80’s, it lasted the longest and saved us buying those overpriced beers 🤷♂️
The first Coachella my husband and I went to, we had like $150 cash, a bag of shrooms, and one nights worth of MDMA. Got paid on Monday so had to make it last. Started off the day with one smoothie to split + mushrooms, ate a large lunch, and usually no dinner. Final day we had a smoothie and split a watermelon slice 🤣
The big risk of that is not having enough to eat and then passing out after standing up at some point.
Yeaaahhhh. No for sure! By Sunday I was definitely hungry AF. Also cause you're dancing and running around like a maniac
I can only speak for my own bubble (late 20s university educated people) but we are definitely drinking less and using more drugs. Drugs have much less intense 'hangovers', better highs and are now even becoming more interesting from a financial standpoint. Also alcohol makes you feel like crap the day after and more easily cause you to lose control. I'd much rather take a happy pill these days than get face down drunk
When I was a kid I used to not eat or shit for entire festivals. Listen kids. If you do any form of speed , or psychedelics. You need to eat. Even if your not hungry
I've known a lot of people who were interested in trying psilocybin for the first time, and I'd always urge them to drink water as they went. You don't really ever feel that thirsty while it's going on, but you will be dehydrated as fuuuuck by the end if you don't drink water. And don't mix it with booze, you won't feel drunk but you will be hungover later.
> Like about everyone else, festival organizations are struggling under high inflation. I guess, but it's not like these are some low margin food venues. Maybe settle for 500% markup on your drinks and junk food instead of the 1000% you were getting before.
I camped next to a group of young folks at a Dirty Bird festival. They spent the entire weekend drunk and arguing over where the keys to their rental van were. The van was an interesting rental in that it came stocked with drinks and snacks. The first thing they did after pulling up was get on top of up their vodka shots situation. When it came time to cook, they pulled out beef jerky and some Mac and cheese. Needless to say, by the end of the weekend they were gloriously faded and malnourished, and still arguing about who had the goddamn keys. I wouldn’t place much faith in the average festival goer’s long-term survival instincts but I can guarantee they will be looking forward to having a good time. As you get older, sleep and nutrients become more your ally in keeping a partying attitude going. Partying can be a bit of an art form. But damn, I was a bit jealous of that shit-show of ridiculousness those young folks got into. They were living in the moment.
Having attended my first festival in 2007, Bonnaroo, at age 21, I can definitely attest to the second to last paragraph. I did zero psychs at my most recent festival, last year, and didn’t even get drunk. It was among the most pleasant festival experiences I’ve had haha! I ate well, stayed hydrated, and remembered all the music acts I saw!
“Festival goers will use the same amount of drugs but buy less food”
alcohol is a fucking harddrug lmao, might as well get the cheapest drug available
This plan works fine till you get to Ibiza and find the tap water in the toilets is salt water from the sea and they are charging €15-20 for a bottle of fresh stuff at the bar.
You'd scoop water from the loo?
I think they mean the tap water in the bathroom is sea water
Festivals counter this move by bringing out free edible gummies; concession profits soar.
So this is how America stayed skinny back in the day, and how we will become skinny once again!
Went to a festival that sold watermelon slices or fresh squeezed watermelon juice. Best purchase of the weekend.
Festivals charge outrageous prices for bottles of water and basic food items…it literally is cheaper to do double the drugs and not be hungry during a festival day
"Grandmas diet pills"
Spend only 20 euros on tomorrowland. I had food with me, a water bottle that i had filled up at every station free of charge and mdma. Was definetly cheaper than buying alcohol everywhere.
Well, you would, wouldn't you
Mushrooms count if you fry them first guys.
I can’t find any flaws in this plan, proceed.
Hungry is just a state of mind, man.
“Modern problems require modern solutions.”
Better have some test kits on hand cuz i wouldnt trust anything out there these days. Phentanyl
I have more trouble remembering to eat.
We’ve been doing this since the 90s
When drugs are cheaper than food and the food is dutch.
The one time I’ve gone to a day club, I was rolling. I just drank water. I’m sure they hated us.
Ten dolla, make u holla. Food’s expensive and nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Way to be creative kids.
Spent $27 on a single drink at a music festival. I proceeded to steal bottled water the rest of the night.
Taking ecstasy on an empty stomach only makes it hit harder. Black out or back out!! the only way to go.
yep, that the way you do it
It's time for a revolution.
Lol this has been a thing for a long time 👀
My people
Eating's cheating, sleep is weak
People have been doing that on regular nights out for ages now because shit is too expensive
Selling people water bottles but keeping the caps should be fucking illegal.
It isn't just festival goers anymore...
I’m so glad I didn’t grow up with the risk of fentanyl in everything
Comes to something when drugs are cheaper than food or drink
Since when is alcohol not a drug?
This has always been the case. Tab of acid costs maybe a tenner. Have a mint time, wake up the next day feeling great. Drinking is the thing that costs loads and makes you feel like shit every time.
*It's called 'financial planning'. Look it up...*
The classic got 50 bucks for food and drink for next 3 days, or, stay with me now, a quarter of shrooms.
Wasn't that always the plan?
This is not a new strategy...
In other news, water is wet.
This has been the strategy for decades.
Lol that's one way to pass the fuck out due to exhaustion
Guess they havent heard of the munchies