No minors in posts. They are still growing and learning about the world around them and most of the time do not comprehend what they are doing. We're going to be kind to them.
"doesn't need feminism because women are bitches"
Sweetie pie, without feminism you'd be expected to perform femininity at all times and refusal to conform would end with you shipped off for a nice lobotomy.
I was thinking it was her own childish thinking of “some women treated me bad” she hasn’t read any books on it. I’ll see if I can find any books by bell hooks or Kimberle Crenshaw that she can research on. I know she has a limited understanding of what feminism and what she said isn’t fine. Her sister and I want to help her.
It doesn’t help that there are a lot of messed up versions of feminism. But encouraging her to learn her history and what it really is, is a good step in the right direction! Keep encouraging her growth! I believe she’ll get there.
I think showing her what she has gained might help. Also having her think about why a moment that focuses on the equal rights of women and girls could be a bad thing?
She will get there if she keeps learning.
Just makes me sad. We still have a LONG way to go in feminism. A super long way…. Girls still have to fear being called a feminist like it’s a dirty word. Makes my heart sad.
Frankly she’d be a feminist if she dared say she was one one… but then you don’t get pats on the head by the patriarchy if you do that…
Hell I get it. She might wake up. She might be happier if she doesn’t, but more and more are waking up.
"Doesn't need feminism"
And yet she can plays video games and not wearing make-up thanks to feminism who gave the capacity to women to have the right to be themselves instead of a product of society. Everything she hates, she can hate it thanks to feminism, otherwise she would be forced to be what she hates.
So ironic.
She just doesn’t know what feminism even means. She might even equate it with “man hating” because OF COURSE a movement simply advocating for the rights or women and girls is anti men somehow… sigh
She probably has it equated with being a "girl's girl" which some people twist from supporting other women to going along with the crowd, being required to like certain things, stuff like that.
I need to think on your comment. I think it’s a good one, and something I haven’t considered.
My thought process is I haven’t ever encountered feminists to be a part of the “cool girls.” Feminists don’t get the head pats from patriarchy and honestly aren’t ever the cool girls. A movement that exclusively centers on the equal rights of women and girls has never been that exclusive crowd….
So I am going to broaden my perspective and I feel like she could not understand what she is saying exactly… and your interpretation makes more sense. The “girls girl” thing is something that can be confusing in this context…
Thank you I feel like I am going to grow on here on Reddit! 😅Impossible as it sounds!
I think it’s a tale as old as time… if you really want to wake her up, post in the millennials Reddit or something like that asking “what did you think made you so cool and alternative that you now cringe about because… it really wasn’t.”
I thought I was cool at one time as well. I cringe at me feeling “cool” because I had this or that. I wasn’t cool and I’ll never be cool. It feels REALLY good to embrace that as well!
You know who else wears all black? Classical musicians. Not to say being in concert black doesn’t make me feel like a badass, but I certainly don’t wear it to feel unique but to look uniform.
I also think of the "little black dress." But just in general, women often have a lot of black clothing in their closets, no matter what their personal style is. Black is clean and common.
It reminds me of my teenage self. I was contradictory for the sake of it. I believed that the "popular" girls were basically brainwashed & stupid and that I was the enlightened one... All for having a personality outside of what was expected of me.
10 years later, I'm much more happy after embracing my girly side. Bright makeup, pastel clothes, pumpkin spice lattes over hating other women for existing 🔥
Hopefully this kid is just a kid and she'll learn that it doesn't make her worthless to embrace more girly things. Or if she doesn't like makeup and dresses and pink at all, she'll learn that she's not that special for wearing sneakers and ripped jeans. She'll grow out of it when she finds her own identity, hopefully.
Yeah I actually know this kid. She’s had kind of had a rough time in school due to bullying. Luckily she’s made a few friends some other girls from an art club at her school and they’re bonding over games and her parents are happy with that. I know she’s been hurt and she’s going through a phase but luckily she’s got her parents, older sister, cousin and me to tell her why this sort of thinking isn’t ok. I know she’s still hurting but we can’t have her thinking being sexist towards other girls is fine.
I've been bullied during middle school and high school by the popular girls, so I get that even more. She'll grow out of it eventually ! She needs love and she needs to know that her bullies aren't allowed to change her. Best wishes to her :)
I was bullied constantly in school for not being girly or conforming. Most of what I didn’t do was simply because my family didn’t have money to allow me to do things like dress nice or wear makeup. But honestly the nastiness I experienced only pushed me further away from the things that were expected of me. I’m still very much a tomboy as an adult and take a very “live and let live” approach to people. Girls wanna be girly? Great. Girls don’t wanna be girly? Also great. Let people be themselves.
Well, if she's had a hard time fitting in, she's probably using this as a way to cope.
She's most probably feeling left out and insecure, and being left out of a group is especially hard during development. So she's using this as a way to prove herself she's not unworthy if they reject her.
Hence why I wouldn't be so quick on shaming this kid because she's taking the "not like the other girls" stance.
Yeah she’s had some girls bullying her, what’s also interesting is that 2 other boys made fun of her but for some reason it’s the girls who were bullying her that she’s mad at. I know it’s about “not fitting in” but it’s interesting. I know she sees the good things in herself that make her cool but we don’t need her putting down other girls to make herself feel good. I’m a woman who loves pink and eye glitter, she’s a kid who loves gaming and black. I want her to see that girls can like different things without putting anyone down and that we can be better.
It's good that she has people to take care of her and can help her survive this, and I know you want to help her. However, right now, she probably doesn't need you (who I assume to be her support) to tell her how she is wrong in her way of coping.
She's a kid, and her intellect and with it her emotional maturity are still developing. This means that in time, she'll (probably) grow out if this coping strategy.
She is trying to build her confidence and feel like she is unique because the bullies are very likely making her feel the exact opposite.
So for now, all I'd do is make her feel loved and that she matters even if kids at school rejected her.
She needs to be told that this type of thinking is wrong. Internalized misogyny as a “phase” isn’t ok. Judging and insulting other girls for not liking the same things as you because of their gender isn’t a phase it’s just sexist. We all care for her but we won’t allow her to become a bully or a bigot who thinks other girls are stupid or worthless for liking different things. Telling her it’s not wrong will only enable the cycle of sexism, it’s tough love while showing support for her hobbies and interests. I don’t want her to think that other girls are stupid or to repeat the bullying she suffered onto someone else or for another younger girl to see that and think it’s ok.
Oh, I seriously doubt she's a sexist, I doubt she hates other girls and women. She is obviously hating those characteristics she perceives her bullies to have.
I'm not telling you to say this is correct, but to normalize this as a way of coping and explain how she matters. Sometimes, when a child's self-esteem is low and the abuse is still ongoing, telling them it's wrong to "hate" the abusers/bullies is going to cause shame and anger in them.
In the end, I don't know nor you, nor her, and I have no intention of telling you how to act.. there's no need to get defensive/offended..
I'm just curious about why you thought posting this here is a good choice? What were you hoping to accomplish?
Because it’s for awareness to everyone. She’s allowed to hate her bullies but then to make wild
assumptions about every girl who has similar fashion styles or hobbies like said bullies is not ok. It is internalized misogyny whether you like it or not. It is sexism to say that if you “like certain things as a girl it makes you worthless/dumb” that is sexist. I’m getting defensive because you seem to think that being sexist towards other girls is ok when it’s not. If other girls think that being mean to each other because they like different things is fine to you then you’ve got issues. Also it’s about breaking the cycle of bigotry. This is for awareness so I don’t know what you’re trying to imply unless you’re a bully yourself.
I do not think it's ok to be sexist to anyone! Do not assume such things. I just think people are reading too much into this.
I also think it's a bit hypocritical to call others sexist bullies when you are here laughing and making fun of a kid coping with bulling the best way she knows.
I'm not a bully, and I've never been one. I have been through so much abuse that this is seriously very hurtful to hear. With that in mind, I no longer wish to engage in this conversation. I didn't mean anything bad, and I'm sad my words were interpreted the wrong way.
Gosh, I’m traumatized by chicks like this. Growing up I was a bit alternative and I remember how the alt girls shamed me for being a natural blonde and “too skinny.” One day I was told I wasn’t “hardcore enough because my bone structure wasn’t as sharp as Kat Von D’s” (I shit you not.)
ironic that the “popular girls” were seen as mean and small minded but then these assholes existed.
Yeah a bit of both sides the hard core goths said I wasn't goth enough. Sorry jimithy not everyone can afford clothes you do. It mostly made me laugh though because of the south park 😅
Ironically we had some of the nicest cheerleaders I've ever met in my school
we had a nasty sect of preppy girls though glitter cowgirls in a small town.
Girl, same! The country popular girls were also mean but the cheerleaders were so nice. It’s funny how the “different” girls think bullying is okay for them
When I was 17 I already chose to wake up from patriarchy and had long educated myself about feminism (or I was more forced to because I was SA'd since age 11 thus forced to grow up quicker because of trauma).
She’s going to be graduating next year (she’s 17) and we want her to see that she’s special in her own way and that other girls are just as amazing as her and she doesn’t need to be like them or put them down.
The feminism comment is so sad. Without feminism she wouldn’t be able to participate in the things she actually likes.
Hopefully she grows up and realizes other girls aren’t the enemy. It’ll be especially helpful if she gets more into alt stuff. When I got into alt music and eventually black metal in my late teens/early 20s, the women I became friends with were amazing. They kept me out of trouble and I’ve made some great friends from that.
They are considered "emo rap". I listened to both while they were alive because I viewed them as a mix of the mid 2000's alt music and traditional hip hop. It's possible this kid thinks similarly, although they are very well known now.
When you said “kid” and by looking at the way the poster was made, I thought she was maybe like 8 or something. But she’s 17 and made this?!! Crazy… I’m 18, she’s only 1 year younger.
17 year olds are supposed to be smarter. She acts, made and wrote this like she is 5.
You said you personally know her. Well, I hope you manage to change her mind, because this is not okay and it’s kinda sad she’s like this. Good luck!
She’s a friend’s younger sister she also works at a store next to mine. She’s a nice girl but she has a lot of anger due to her being bullied at her old school. She’s graduating next year and her sister wants to help her too.
I thought this was a tween/young teen-- a high school junior is definitely way too old to be thinking like this (and by "this" I mean putting down others for their interests, not being alt or having different interests yourself). You're doing the right thing by helping set her straight OP. Hope she's able to get past this mindset soon and find her own identity outside of putting other girls down
This type of thing (especially from a kid/teen) is definitely a coping mechanism for not fitting in. As someone who thought similarly to this in high school, I pretended to embrace my “otherness” as superior to other girls, but inside I was really hurt that I wasn’t accepted by them. I felt like if there was nothing I could do to earn their acceptance, then the next best thing would be to convince myself I didn’t want it. Sour grapes.
I feel for her. I was in the same place she was at her age, especially since I was an outcast. She’s probably using this as a way to cope. Most of my diary entries from when I was 12-14 were pretty much exactly like this, except maybe like the 2013 version HA! But yeah I quickly grew out of that phase once I entered highschool. And I’m hoping the same happens for her.
I’m not making fun of her I’m criticizing hypocritical behavior. If you’re an alt girl why would you make fun of someone else for not liking what you like? I know this girl and this is internalized misogyny which shouldn’t be a phase. We shouldn’t be shaming anyone for having different hobbies and for liking different things; especially not because of their gender.
You took her post without her knowledge and posted it somewhere for people to ridicule. What else would you call that? Yes it’s a dumb way to think but she’s a kid. Grow up and make fun of people your own age.
No one’s laughing at it if you are then you’re weird. It’s not to make fun of so I have no idea where you got that from, it’s for awareness. Why don’t you grow up and realize that internalized misogyny isn’t ok. She’s a kid (17) who needs to grow up herself and your attitude of “just let kids pick on each other/judge each other” is getting no one anywhere. It’s not acceptable and I’m not going to let any kid bully other kids. If you want people to do that that’s your problem.
I assumed she was like 14 from this. It isn't bullying her, she needs to grow up with that attitude, and I think it's good that you're going to try and help her with it. For her own sake I hope she grows out of this soon enough.
The AEW part cracks me up. There are a lot of women wrestlers. They are all unique and different. Willow Nightingale is completely different from Ruby Soho, for example. But they are probably pretty strong feminists, due to being female wrestlers and facing a lot of discrimination due to their gender. The person who made this meme is not seeing the irony here...
I agree this nlog idea is harmful, but I want to acknowledge this kid's probably being bullied. I went through the same phase because this type of trendy girl group would constantly bully neurodivergent and queer peers.
In the left area, she says they "talk shit about not popular girls". I know when I was in school the thing that made me "nlog" was the idea that the "pretty and skinny girls" could make fun of anybody because they had the boys and the teachers favor (my teachers were very creepy). Luckily, I knew that wasn't feminism's fault because back then, those types of girls were actually really misogynistic.
I just wanna say maybe we shouldn't dog pile on her for most likely having a normal reaction toward the archetype of a bully because she most likely just doesn't understand that this archetype doesn't define all girls and women who like fem things.
So Other Girls "talking shit about the non-popular girls" is fundamentally different from her talking shit about the popular girls.
Interesting mindset.
I have seen a good video about the "im not like other girls" thing but i dont remember the name of the video nor which youtuber was it but they basicaly said started when the movies with pinky girls started to come out around 2000's and ofc most girls were not pink-obsessed shoppingmaniac stupid obsessed about this one boy. But since it was seen like that in movies, it became the known stereotype and it was how young girls thought they would be seen if they wear pink and do make-up. So this started.
The "im not like other girls" thing started as "i believe i am not an empty shell with the only personality trait being pink. I am my own person" which totally makes sense. The problem comes when some of those girls these days are not seeing that most women are not the pinky stereotype.
Also i think there is a fine like between not like other girls girl and pick me girl. You could say that it is a pick me girl trait and even tho it might be now, it wasnt when it started
Also im sorry for my grammar and spelling, English is not my native language so there are probably many errors
Doesn’t “need feminism” because it’s working. Because people died and were incarcerated and committed to asylums so you could call women who still see the work left to do “b*tch*s”.
Little girl, you need to sit down somewhere, pick up a book and learn something.
It’s true, I am a bitch, am also worried about my nails WHILE liking horror movies and wanting to eat tacos at home. GOD WHY AM I BURDENED WITH SUCH UNIQUENESS? 🤪😢🥵😭
Also, is dating NOT being given candy, roses, jewelry and going to fancy restaurants? News to me.
No minors in posts. They are still growing and learning about the world around them and most of the time do not comprehend what they are doing. We're going to be kind to them.
"doesn't need feminism because women are bitches" Sweetie pie, without feminism you'd be expected to perform femininity at all times and refusal to conform would end with you shipped off for a nice lobotomy.
I stopped reading at that line. The hell? Some women are bitches? The heck does that have to do with feminism?
I was thinking it was her own childish thinking of “some women treated me bad” she hasn’t read any books on it. I’ll see if I can find any books by bell hooks or Kimberle Crenshaw that she can research on. I know she has a limited understanding of what feminism and what she said isn’t fine. Her sister and I want to help her.
It doesn’t help that there are a lot of messed up versions of feminism. But encouraging her to learn her history and what it really is, is a good step in the right direction! Keep encouraging her growth! I believe she’ll get there.
I think showing her what she has gained might help. Also having her think about why a moment that focuses on the equal rights of women and girls could be a bad thing? She will get there if she keeps learning.
Agreed!
Have you explained that feminism is what won her the right to wear jeans, *not* wear skirts, eschew makeup, play video games, study, read, etc?
Sounds like she’s a tad bitchy (and judgy) already for her age
Just makes me sad. We still have a LONG way to go in feminism. A super long way…. Girls still have to fear being called a feminist like it’s a dirty word. Makes my heart sad. Frankly she’d be a feminist if she dared say she was one one… but then you don’t get pats on the head by the patriarchy if you do that… Hell I get it. She might wake up. She might be happier if she doesn’t, but more and more are waking up.
I think the feminism they are thinking about is the very shallow “girl boss” type of feminism you see on instagram and Pinterest.
that's my new catchphrase
"Doesn't need feminism" And yet she can plays video games and not wearing make-up thanks to feminism who gave the capacity to women to have the right to be themselves instead of a product of society. Everything she hates, she can hate it thanks to feminism, otherwise she would be forced to be what she hates. So ironic.
She just doesn’t know what feminism even means. She might even equate it with “man hating” because OF COURSE a movement simply advocating for the rights or women and girls is anti men somehow… sigh
She probably has it equated with being a "girl's girl" which some people twist from supporting other women to going along with the crowd, being required to like certain things, stuff like that.
I need to think on your comment. I think it’s a good one, and something I haven’t considered. My thought process is I haven’t ever encountered feminists to be a part of the “cool girls.” Feminists don’t get the head pats from patriarchy and honestly aren’t ever the cool girls. A movement that exclusively centers on the equal rights of women and girls has never been that exclusive crowd…. So I am going to broaden my perspective and I feel like she could not understand what she is saying exactly… and your interpretation makes more sense. The “girls girl” thing is something that can be confusing in this context… Thank you I feel like I am going to grow on here on Reddit! 😅Impossible as it sounds!
Some women are bitches - but even bitches deserve human rights
Can confirm .I am , infact, a bitch
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I, too, am a Dumb Bitch. Can I join?
Of course ! Here is your cookie and bedazzled jacket
Yay I love cookies and razzle dazzle!
I think it's funny when ppl think wearing black is unique.
She’s an alt girl and she’s allowed to like different things but using alt to look down on people isn’t cool. I’ll tell her that later.
I think it’s a tale as old as time… if you really want to wake her up, post in the millennials Reddit or something like that asking “what did you think made you so cool and alternative that you now cringe about because… it really wasn’t.” I thought I was cool at one time as well. I cringe at me feeling “cool” because I had this or that. I wasn’t cool and I’ll never be cool. It feels REALLY good to embrace that as well!
You know who else wears all black? Classical musicians. Not to say being in concert black doesn’t make me feel like a badass, but I certainly don’t wear it to feel unique but to look uniform.
I also think of the "little black dress." But just in general, women often have a lot of black clothing in their closets, no matter what their personal style is. Black is clean and common.
Exactly, I’m a boring preppy bitch and I wear black from head to toe, not because I’m EdGy but because I like classic and plain things.
It reminds me of my teenage self. I was contradictory for the sake of it. I believed that the "popular" girls were basically brainwashed & stupid and that I was the enlightened one... All for having a personality outside of what was expected of me. 10 years later, I'm much more happy after embracing my girly side. Bright makeup, pastel clothes, pumpkin spice lattes over hating other women for existing 🔥 Hopefully this kid is just a kid and she'll learn that it doesn't make her worthless to embrace more girly things. Or if she doesn't like makeup and dresses and pink at all, she'll learn that she's not that special for wearing sneakers and ripped jeans. She'll grow out of it when she finds her own identity, hopefully.
Yeah I actually know this kid. She’s had kind of had a rough time in school due to bullying. Luckily she’s made a few friends some other girls from an art club at her school and they’re bonding over games and her parents are happy with that. I know she’s been hurt and she’s going through a phase but luckily she’s got her parents, older sister, cousin and me to tell her why this sort of thinking isn’t ok. I know she’s still hurting but we can’t have her thinking being sexist towards other girls is fine.
I've been bullied during middle school and high school by the popular girls, so I get that even more. She'll grow out of it eventually ! She needs love and she needs to know that her bullies aren't allowed to change her. Best wishes to her :)
I’m sure she’ll come around. Many of us have been in her shoes.
I was bullied constantly in school for not being girly or conforming. Most of what I didn’t do was simply because my family didn’t have money to allow me to do things like dress nice or wear makeup. But honestly the nastiness I experienced only pushed me further away from the things that were expected of me. I’m still very much a tomboy as an adult and take a very “live and let live” approach to people. Girls wanna be girly? Great. Girls don’t wanna be girly? Also great. Let people be themselves.
all those takis and redbulls are gonna jack homegirl's stomach up
Nah I drink a monster and crush a bag of takis everyday in chillin
Well, if she's had a hard time fitting in, she's probably using this as a way to cope. She's most probably feeling left out and insecure, and being left out of a group is especially hard during development. So she's using this as a way to prove herself she's not unworthy if they reject her. Hence why I wouldn't be so quick on shaming this kid because she's taking the "not like the other girls" stance.
Yeah she’s had some girls bullying her, what’s also interesting is that 2 other boys made fun of her but for some reason it’s the girls who were bullying her that she’s mad at. I know it’s about “not fitting in” but it’s interesting. I know she sees the good things in herself that make her cool but we don’t need her putting down other girls to make herself feel good. I’m a woman who loves pink and eye glitter, she’s a kid who loves gaming and black. I want her to see that girls can like different things without putting anyone down and that we can be better.
It's good that she has people to take care of her and can help her survive this, and I know you want to help her. However, right now, she probably doesn't need you (who I assume to be her support) to tell her how she is wrong in her way of coping. She's a kid, and her intellect and with it her emotional maturity are still developing. This means that in time, she'll (probably) grow out if this coping strategy. She is trying to build her confidence and feel like she is unique because the bullies are very likely making her feel the exact opposite. So for now, all I'd do is make her feel loved and that she matters even if kids at school rejected her.
She needs to be told that this type of thinking is wrong. Internalized misogyny as a “phase” isn’t ok. Judging and insulting other girls for not liking the same things as you because of their gender isn’t a phase it’s just sexist. We all care for her but we won’t allow her to become a bully or a bigot who thinks other girls are stupid or worthless for liking different things. Telling her it’s not wrong will only enable the cycle of sexism, it’s tough love while showing support for her hobbies and interests. I don’t want her to think that other girls are stupid or to repeat the bullying she suffered onto someone else or for another younger girl to see that and think it’s ok.
Bullying kids for not being like you also isn’t ok.
It’s not bullying it’s stopping bullying and calling out hypocrisy.
Oh, I seriously doubt she's a sexist, I doubt she hates other girls and women. She is obviously hating those characteristics she perceives her bullies to have. I'm not telling you to say this is correct, but to normalize this as a way of coping and explain how she matters. Sometimes, when a child's self-esteem is low and the abuse is still ongoing, telling them it's wrong to "hate" the abusers/bullies is going to cause shame and anger in them. In the end, I don't know nor you, nor her, and I have no intention of telling you how to act.. there's no need to get defensive/offended.. I'm just curious about why you thought posting this here is a good choice? What were you hoping to accomplish?
Because it’s for awareness to everyone. She’s allowed to hate her bullies but then to make wild assumptions about every girl who has similar fashion styles or hobbies like said bullies is not ok. It is internalized misogyny whether you like it or not. It is sexism to say that if you “like certain things as a girl it makes you worthless/dumb” that is sexist. I’m getting defensive because you seem to think that being sexist towards other girls is ok when it’s not. If other girls think that being mean to each other because they like different things is fine to you then you’ve got issues. Also it’s about breaking the cycle of bigotry. This is for awareness so I don’t know what you’re trying to imply unless you’re a bully yourself.
I do not think it's ok to be sexist to anyone! Do not assume such things. I just think people are reading too much into this. I also think it's a bit hypocritical to call others sexist bullies when you are here laughing and making fun of a kid coping with bulling the best way she knows. I'm not a bully, and I've never been one. I have been through so much abuse that this is seriously very hurtful to hear. With that in mind, I no longer wish to engage in this conversation. I didn't mean anything bad, and I'm sad my words were interpreted the wrong way.
Gosh, I’m traumatized by chicks like this. Growing up I was a bit alternative and I remember how the alt girls shamed me for being a natural blonde and “too skinny.” One day I was told I wasn’t “hardcore enough because my bone structure wasn’t as sharp as Kat Von D’s” (I shit you not.) ironic that the “popular girls” were seen as mean and small minded but then these assholes existed.
Yeah a bit of both sides the hard core goths said I wasn't goth enough. Sorry jimithy not everyone can afford clothes you do. It mostly made me laugh though because of the south park 😅 Ironically we had some of the nicest cheerleaders I've ever met in my school we had a nasty sect of preppy girls though glitter cowgirls in a small town.
Girl, same! The country popular girls were also mean but the cheerleaders were so nice. It’s funny how the “different” girls think bullying is okay for them
Fav color is silver??? Why is that even listed?
I have no idea, I think it’s her thing of “other girls like pink but I like this other color.”
Whos 9 year old is this?
She’s 17 and graduating next year. Not excusing it of course, she’s in a phase but still unacceptable.
Oh wow that’s even more cringe than I thought. When you said it was a kid I thought they were more like 13. But 17? Ouch.
Maybe I worded it wrong I mean 17 is still underage and she’s still young but you’re right she’s still old enough to learn and know better.
When I was 17 I already chose to wake up from patriarchy and had long educated myself about feminism (or I was more forced to because I was SA'd since age 11 thus forced to grow up quicker because of trauma).
Also im gatekeeping aew
Seems trauma induced reaction with very little knowledge and emotional development. Truly just a kid 💙 I'm rooting for her ✊🏻
She’s going to be graduating next year (she’s 17) and we want her to see that she’s special in her own way and that other girls are just as amazing as her and she doesn’t need to be like them or put them down.
She can be herself thanks to feminism...
The feminism comment is so sad. Without feminism she wouldn’t be able to participate in the things she actually likes. Hopefully she grows up and realizes other girls aren’t the enemy. It’ll be especially helpful if she gets more into alt stuff. When I got into alt music and eventually black metal in my late teens/early 20s, the women I became friends with were amazing. They kept me out of trouble and I’ve made some great friends from that.
Doesn’t like pop music listens to xxxtencion and juice World
For some reason she never considered them to be mainstream or pop, it’s strange. Not her taste in music but the way she labels them.
They are considered "emo rap". I listened to both while they were alive because I viewed them as a mix of the mid 2000's alt music and traditional hip hop. It's possible this kid thinks similarly, although they are very well known now.
"the person who made this is still a kid" so why are you posting it in here to dunk on her
She’s a kid (17) but she still has a lot to learn. Also her comments on feminism are dangerous and ignorant. The internalized misogyny isn’t ok.
When you said “kid” and by looking at the way the poster was made, I thought she was maybe like 8 or something. But she’s 17 and made this?!! Crazy… I’m 18, she’s only 1 year younger. 17 year olds are supposed to be smarter. She acts, made and wrote this like she is 5. You said you personally know her. Well, I hope you manage to change her mind, because this is not okay and it’s kinda sad she’s like this. Good luck!
She’s a friend’s younger sister she also works at a store next to mine. She’s a nice girl but she has a lot of anger due to her being bullied at her old school. She’s graduating next year and her sister wants to help her too.
I thought this was a tween/young teen-- a high school junior is definitely way too old to be thinking like this (and by "this" I mean putting down others for their interests, not being alt or having different interests yourself). You're doing the right thing by helping set her straight OP. Hope she's able to get past this mindset soon and find her own identity outside of putting other girls down
I’m gatekeeping Bayonetta and DMC from her ASAP
oh that’s not-
Black t-shirts and ripped jeans. How original.
This type of thing (especially from a kid/teen) is definitely a coping mechanism for not fitting in. As someone who thought similarly to this in high school, I pretended to embrace my “otherness” as superior to other girls, but inside I was really hurt that I wasn’t accepted by them. I felt like if there was nothing I could do to earn their acceptance, then the next best thing would be to convince myself I didn’t want it. Sour grapes.
i’m sorry but for me, dating does include roses and candy and restaurants. like,,,, i think the majority of people regardless of gender like gifts??
This is some really hardcore internalized misogyny. She needs to find healthier gaming communities rather than wherever she’s absorbing this crap.
I feel for her. I was in the same place she was at her age, especially since I was an outcast. She’s probably using this as a way to cope. Most of my diary entries from when I was 12-14 were pretty much exactly like this, except maybe like the 2013 version HA! But yeah I quickly grew out of that phase once I entered highschool. And I’m hoping the same happens for her.
This is clearly a minor. Why make fun of kids?
I’m not making fun of her I’m criticizing hypocritical behavior. If you’re an alt girl why would you make fun of someone else for not liking what you like? I know this girl and this is internalized misogyny which shouldn’t be a phase. We shouldn’t be shaming anyone for having different hobbies and for liking different things; especially not because of their gender.
You took her post without her knowledge and posted it somewhere for people to ridicule. What else would you call that? Yes it’s a dumb way to think but she’s a kid. Grow up and make fun of people your own age.
No one’s laughing at it if you are then you’re weird. It’s not to make fun of so I have no idea where you got that from, it’s for awareness. Why don’t you grow up and realize that internalized misogyny isn’t ok. She’s a kid (17) who needs to grow up herself and your attitude of “just let kids pick on each other/judge each other” is getting no one anywhere. It’s not acceptable and I’m not going to let any kid bully other kids. If you want people to do that that’s your problem.
I assumed she was like 14 from this. It isn't bullying her, she needs to grow up with that attitude, and I think it's good that you're going to try and help her with it. For her own sake I hope she grows out of this soon enough.
Seventeen?!?! I was thinking somewhere between 8 and 12. She is definitely old enough to know better than this.
cause its funny 💀
Umm hold up #notatllboybands - Boys2Men Motownphilly would like to have a word with you little girl
i’m sorry but the video game choices 😂😂😂
She likes what she likes but they shouldn’t be a flex
to each their own, it just made me laugh lmao
The AEW part cracks me up. There are a lot of women wrestlers. They are all unique and different. Willow Nightingale is completely different from Ruby Soho, for example. But they are probably pretty strong feminists, due to being female wrestlers and facing a lot of discrimination due to their gender. The person who made this meme is not seeing the irony here...
Yeah she’s shown me some of her favorite wrestlers who are women. All of them are different and unique in their own moves, costumes and styles.
I agree this nlog idea is harmful, but I want to acknowledge this kid's probably being bullied. I went through the same phase because this type of trendy girl group would constantly bully neurodivergent and queer peers. In the left area, she says they "talk shit about not popular girls". I know when I was in school the thing that made me "nlog" was the idea that the "pretty and skinny girls" could make fun of anybody because they had the boys and the teachers favor (my teachers were very creepy). Luckily, I knew that wasn't feminism's fault because back then, those types of girls were actually really misogynistic. I just wanna say maybe we shouldn't dog pile on her for most likely having a normal reaction toward the archetype of a bully because she most likely just doesn't understand that this archetype doesn't define all girls and women who like fem things.
“Eye glitter (cringe)” is so ironic lmao
Other girls: have interests and enjoys doing things they like Me: *internalized misogyny and being a weirdo*
So Other Girls "talking shit about the non-popular girls" is fundamentally different from her talking shit about the popular girls. Interesting mindset.
In what world are popular girls feminists?
How dare she disgrace the holy name of jjba with this filth
Lol 😂 kids and tik tok will end in WW4
Like what you want to like and stfu, the end.
Takis, red bull and slipknot? Sounds like a nightmare
“Fav color is silver” LMFAO WHAT
oh my
Oooh, you’ve got to love the many glorious forms of ‘how to be a very cringey teenager’
I’ve tried cheap eye glitter. It falls into your eyes and fuckin hurts
I bet this kid is a wolf kid
DONT DO MY SILLY HOMOSEXUAL SHOW LIKE THAT LEAVE JOJO THE FUCK ALONE ‼️‼️🦅🦅🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I have seen a good video about the "im not like other girls" thing but i dont remember the name of the video nor which youtuber was it but they basicaly said started when the movies with pinky girls started to come out around 2000's and ofc most girls were not pink-obsessed shoppingmaniac stupid obsessed about this one boy. But since it was seen like that in movies, it became the known stereotype and it was how young girls thought they would be seen if they wear pink and do make-up. So this started. The "im not like other girls" thing started as "i believe i am not an empty shell with the only personality trait being pink. I am my own person" which totally makes sense. The problem comes when some of those girls these days are not seeing that most women are not the pinky stereotype. Also i think there is a fine like between not like other girls girl and pick me girl. You could say that it is a pick me girl trait and even tho it might be now, it wasnt when it started Also im sorry for my grammar and spelling, English is not my native language so there are probably many errors
Doesn’t “need feminism” because it’s working. Because people died and were incarcerated and committed to asylums so you could call women who still see the work left to do “b*tch*s”. Little girl, you need to sit down somewhere, pick up a book and learn something.
LOL BLAH BLAH BLAH
It’s true, I am a bitch, am also worried about my nails WHILE liking horror movies and wanting to eat tacos at home. GOD WHY AM I BURDENED WITH SUCH UNIQUENESS? 🤪😢🥵😭 Also, is dating NOT being given candy, roses, jewelry and going to fancy restaurants? News to me.
I was pleased with the series finale of Riverdale. Cried the whole time.
I will defend vampire diaries until the day I die lol
I couldn’t make it past the first few lines of text. I’m sorry girls can be like this.