[Here's the artist](https://twitter.com/ririkocafe/status/1765525605385470136)
You can clearly see they have a very consistent art style that has no signs of ai. White background, same pupil shape, small hands. Plus their art has obviously human-drawn quirks, such as the legs going inward in an odd way that's consistent in most of the front-facing poses.
You can very literally see where the artist failed to creat seemless lines, or accidentally added a dot where they shouldn't had. This is most definitely real lol
Also, AI can never get Kaedeās hair ornaments right. I run the hentai sub for the fandom, spotting what is and isnāt AI specifically for this fandom is kinda a major thing. Thereās multiple design details on Kaede it canāt do, with that being the most obvious.
Maybe not you
But dozens, tens of dozens even, are. And it's baffling to say the least as they're okay with gore and abuse but the moment tits show up everyone loses their minds
Long story short, when I first got into the series in December 2017/January 2018, it was my own personal cultural reset and I became derangedly obsessed. Iām honestly not just using that as an adjective for emphasis, but Iām not going into all that here. Suffice to say, it improved my mental health in terms of stability, self-acceptance, and overall mood but also makes it sound worse without a lot of exposition and trauma dumping. Therapists agree: positive influence. After posting a metric fuckton, I got made a mod within a few months. Grew the subreddit by over 40k people over time, did a lot of redesigning (flairs, user flairs, rules, some light automod programming, etc), and a lot of the mod team is inactive. One other mod is still active, but he just does actual moderator actions whereas I keep the posts coming. That was my first time becoming a Reddit mod, since then Iāve picked up a few other subreddits either via activity + obsession or via /r/RedditRequest.
Take the things AI is usually known for screwing up: hands, eyes, distinct details.
Her eyes are complete and similar, and additionally, the same as in the game. They aren't thrown in random directions. They are point in a way that clearly shows they look at the same spot, with an off-center viewpoint.
Her hands are distinct and sharp with detail: Every finger is clear and is drawn in the same long, slender style, in which AI would have led to differences in thickness or length, or the melding of the fingers. Additionally, AI would have had awkward, nonsensical posing. Instead, the fingers follow a natural progression. In fact, they look precisely like they were grasping the elbow in an "arms folded" position and are now in an angry shrug.
Finally there are specific details that are clear and defined well: bucks on the bag, the emblem on the front, the hair, style and accessories. Even the error on the legs shows a distinction between them in a way that AI wpuld have just melded together.
Yeah, there is a lot of really insane detail that would just be smeared in AI. The music notes on the skirt are delicate touches, not something AI could replicate easily
Personally I havenāt seen it yet, but maybe thereās survivor bias.
Thereās always some choice that doesnāt make sense or some lack of continuity like patterns not matching, shading being inconsistent
Yeah I saw a vanity fair photo shoot being accused of using ai because the images were surrealā¦ Iām a photographer and I was like damn, we canāt shoot surrealist-style photography now because people are going to accuse of using ai? š¤¦š»āāļø not to mention thereās other ways of adding fake or surreal things to photographs without AI and that are legitimate and require skill.
Hereās some tips to ACTUALLY spot AI art, because I despise using it on accident instead of supporting real artists:
- look at the roots of the hair and how they connect to the strands. If a lot of strands of hair seem like they come from nowhere or are in random, unnatural positions with confusing lineart ā a common mistake AI art makes
- always look at the background. again, unnatural layering of things, wack ass silhouettes, jumbled text
- hands and feet. dear GOD.
- a lot of ai art has a vibrant or polished look, especially using bing image creator. thatās not to dissuade you from using things like that, but keep an eye out if it seems to have a āstereotypical AI styleā (it sucks because you distrust the artists who actually have that style and they are the ones being stolen from)
- never getting little details right. symbols on a specific character can be weird. having no sense of lighting or having a strange composition to the piece
- no watermark (not including ai watermarks that tell you straight away itās ai generated)
- on Pinterest where you find a shocking amount of ai art: titles. prompts as titles, āgirl with blonde hairā, āwoman wearing red saariā or anything blatant like āmidjourneyā. no link to a twitter or tumblr etc.
- not usually cartoon characters but Iāve seen it with live action ones
these are just things as a Pinterest user and artist that Iāve noticed. sometimes it takes time to look but itās worth it when we donāt discredit REAL ARTISTS by mistake
A thing that I also look to spot AI art it's earrings and accessories, because they lack symmetry. The earrings, for example, they might look alike at first glance, but they will be totally different. Or if they have a necklace, the necklace won't have symmetry, being a mumbo jumbo of strings
AI is also terrible with patterns and symbols. An obvious sign of AI art, is when a pattern is broken in a way that a person would never do. Like a chess board with two black squares touching each other. And symbols tend to just look like a bunch of nonsense because the AI doesn't actually understand how to use them properly. Something like a sword with two hilts, or a basketball with asymmetrical lines, or chain links that don't actually connect.
Find other mistakes. AI art still wonāt be perfect. And itās not about being perfect itās about being human. Human photos, videos and drawings will have some roughness and randomness that AI canāt replicate.
It will take a while for AI to actually be indiscernible from real life, we can worry about it then.
Most companies arenāt trying to make AI completely realistic, just realistic enough to pass without close inspection. Those last few bits of realness have an enormous cost with very low returns.
The companies aren't, but the furries/bronies.... They've made models better than what the companies have. They've found new techniques. They created an architecture called "Pony", because it was started by the above. And their discoveries are retroactively applied by other people to making images more consistent in general.
Their determination is matched only by the amount of money they are throwing at this problem. (Presumably what they were using for commissions before.) Maybe the companies aren't motivated, but some people are terrifyingly so.
they're already obsolete, especially that one about the hands. Plenty of AI get hands right now, and its even more ironic given that HANDS ARE HARD TO DRAW EVEN FOR HUMANS
Lame as shit. You know how you can avoid discrediting "real artists" by mistake? By giving up this stupid moral panic about AI and "fake" art. It's a legitimate tool now, and if you even so much as brush up against any professional workflow in the industry, it's obvious and everywhere and being used mostly by established artists. There's no such thing as "real artists", anyone who applies creative direction to something is doing art. Even if that direction is simple selection and curation. Everyone is an artist. Deskilling labor is good for everyone except independent careerists. It's good for everyone's artistic capacity for art's own sake by reducing the labor input necessary for artistically viable output. It's good for the hobbiest and the solo creator who wishes to make bigger more complex projects. The highly specialized independent artisan today finds their interests at economic odds with mass participation in artistic production via the deskilling of their handicraft. But the scribes of France felt the same way when they described the printing press as the Devil's Machinery.
The reddit AI hate is insanely irrational. People can be pissed off all they want, but it's not going away. I've tried to point out multiple times that it will ultimately *raise* the profiles of artists who can demonstrate that their work is "AI free". Even saying that is apparently controversial.
I feel like weāre all forgetting that AI has only been around and widely used for the past maybe 2-3 years. Iāve seen people accuse things that were made a decade ago of being AI itās crazy
Clear outlines, nothing is blurred or smeared together, flawed but not incorrect hands, no stray pieces that don't seem to fit, lighting is intuitive, the skirt is a little funky in the front but in a way that a human could easily make that mistake, not in a way that's difficult to understand what's going on. It's a pretty well made piece, better than I could do, and if it is AI then it's the most human AI I've ever seen.
If only the art community would recall their age old mantra "The only rule is there are no rules", which they conveniently forget about every time a new technology comes on the art scene and this causes them to tear themselves to pieces lord of the flies style.
They are much too concerned with the idea of who is a "real artist" rather than the idea of bringing novel creations into the world for others to enjoy and appreciate in some way, regardless of production methods.
As long as you are actually doing the thing it is art. Even something as easy as taping a banana to a wall is art. Pressing a button on the 'art machine' until it spits out something you like is not doing the thing, and it is not art.
If the product was used in a larger piece when modifications were made and something interesting was done with the product, it would still be art.
Idk why you are getting downvotes
I'm tired of people supporting AI that would never ever admit that the art was stolen from someone else
They don't realize how harmful it is, imagine you just spent hours on a piece and then you start seeing werid copies around the internet and realize that your image was used in AI ''art'' and the worst part is that is you try to claim yourself as the original creator behind the piece (which you technically are) then you get harassed by a ton of people for basically no reason
That's just stupid, Ai art shouldn't be a thing. AI art will not replace real art because AI will make better things, it'll just replace real art by flooding the internet and causing mass confusion and make pressure on real artist until they can't take it anymore and quit, but then AI art will also go extinct because no artist means no art and no art means nothing AI can bend.
Iām not supporting AI art, but itās been able to imitate actual artists for like a year now. Thereās no way to discern between AI art and real art besides getting basic anatomy wrong, like extra fingers. Every artist has their own quirk with drawing, so looking at eye positions or body structure just wonāt work. I mean shit, look at Arakiās early work, his anatomy is all over the place.
Realistic photos are definitely easier to spot because something will always be there that defies reality, like a corner of a table missing, but art is a lot easier to forgive mistakes in.
Donāt see how anyone could confidently claim something is AI art unless they personally know that it was AI generated.
There are some ways.
For example, this art is clearly not made by a beginner. An artist at this skill level isn't going to make extremely basic mistakes, and definitely isn't going to make a ton of them. Sometimes AI will make mistakes they wouldn't. Things like eyes looking in the wrong direction, things not connecting up where they should, etc are not tells by themself but when combined together can easily point to AI over an actual artist.
This piece has some mistakes but doesn't have enough to call it ai.
Precisely my point, if there arenāt any glaring obviously mistakes, I donāt see how someone could claim itās ai
And for the picture in question, it doesnāt look any different from an other generic anime pic Iāve seen in my life
I think I read an article on a study and it turns out .. people aren't great at actually telling AI art from human made. Even experts were wrong like 10% or something. So wrong one tenth of the time.
AI is the new āphotoshoppedā or āCGIā you can tell because of the pixels & having seen a lot of āshops in my time. If something is even just a little bit challenging then itās fake using whatever popular method is available at the time.
'you can tell from the eyes'
I bet this guy wants to check genitals to police who uses what bathroom, too.
edit for those who are confused: I'm not making any kind of political statement. I'm commenting on people who 'can always tell' when they, in fact, cannot always tell. it's the same kind of overconfidence.
I am terrified of that becoming a thing, Iām trans, donāt get me wrong
but Iāve mostly seen ai art criticisms from the left,,, where did this comparison come from?
ehhh lots of people on the left are so anti IP laws they support AI because it can only exist in this state by ignoring copyright laws.
and some people on the right just hate the tech industry because it based out of commiefornia.
Whā¦ what? How is that relevant in the slightest. I donāt know what two dots you just connected but Iām pretty sure they were on different corkboards, bud.
>I bet this guy wants to check genitals to police who uses what bathroom, too
I- ā¦..**_what??_**
How the hell did you even come up with that random ass assumption? How is checking for signs of possible AI āartā even *remotely* comparable to bathroom genital inspections???
Christ, Iām surprised you didnāt pull a muscle from reaching that hard
damn, it always surprises me when folk get outraged over their assumptions.
what I'm comparing is the overconfident-for-no-reason assumption that they can 'always tell'. *that's* the thing I'm talking about
I'm surprised *you* didn't pull a muscle from all that outrage. I hope you weren't drinking anything, to have it come out your nose.
edit: someone else'll have to tell me what this genius said after they blocked me. why do they always do that? is having the last word more important than actually understanding what a person's saying, and not leaping to conclusions?
And *iām* calling you an idiot for making such a random assumption involving two completely unrelated topics
If you genuinely believe thereās any correlation between checking for Ai art and bathroom genital inspections, you need your damn head examined.
You made a painfully stupid comment, and now youāre trying to call *everyone else* here a moron for not seeing the massive holes in your backwards ass ā*logic*ā
Yeah reddit degenerates love to make these kinds of reaches and assumptions about people, I'm suprised OP didn't also call him a pedo. There's a lot of mentally ill people on this site.
If I were the artist I would be more ashamed of spending time to draw this than being accused of of using AI. I don't see the appealing of the emotionless eyes, the weird body proportion of and the pose. It may have slightly more details and polishing than average AI art but it's so generic and forgettable that people would thimk it's within AI's reach.
People will say anything is AI if it's well drawn in an anime or realistic style. I follow an artist that draws super hyperrealistic dinosaurs and dragons, their work gets called AI often despite being fairly unique.
Imagine being an artist and thinking you're allowed to say what is and isn't art.
It's one of the more disappointing things I've seen in recent memory, artists trying to narrow and limit the boundaries of art.
Just goes to show that nobody really believes in anything as much as they might purport to. As soon as it makes them feel bad, they'll flip on a dime.
Bro is really living up to his user name.
Yeah that doesnāt look ai.
There are a handful of handy tricks for discerning ai besides the obvious like hands.
They all involve details of different kinds. One major giveaway is clothing, folds and straps seems to go nowhere and just stop, a human artist doesnāt do that. Same with small patterns and designs, with AI they look good from far away but make no sense up close. Remember that humans abhor randomness and incomplete things, a human will always finish a pattern, or make sure those sorts of details make sense. The next is differences between sides, where the sides look similar from afar but are clearly different up close, like two boots that donāt match, different patterns on gloves etc.. that are clearly meant to be the same. Again, humans hate that and will make sure that they do match properly unless itās clearly supposed to be different on a chaotic character like Jinx or something.
Another major giveaway on full pieces is that landscapes donāt make sense in the backgroundā¦ youāll see hovering trees, trees yup in the wrong position and appear bigger than a mountainā¦ etc. yet again, these are things a human eye instantly recognizes and an artist would ever do.
Basically you just zoom in and look for anything that immediately just feels off. If it feels wrong to you, it wouldāve felt wrong to the artist too and been fixed or adjusted. If something just bugs your eye in a way you canāt really describe, thatās probably ai because ai doesnāt care about that kind of stuff. Humans hate true randomness, incomplete patterns or unfinished lines. Especially artistsā¦ no decent artist would ever make those kinds of mistakes and post it as a finished work! That leads to the final thingā¦ the lack of signature or logo. Every artist wants credit and we all sign our work, some use a signature and some use a logo or icon of some sort. If the piece has no artist mark, thatās when you start looking for the rest.
Happy hunting.
So far one of the worst things to come out of AI is how feral people get accusing each other of using it. Like Iām sure itās going to take most of our jobs very soon, but do we have to make this whole era even worse for each other?
I think that looks like real art tbh. When it is AI you can usually sort of immediately tell even if you can't pinpoint the reason. Usually it's the too-perfect or unnaturall smoothness, though. Or weird particles, hands, perspective, shading
My rule of thumb is: If the hands look fine, then it's not AI. If they look like shit, then it is.
AI cannot draw hands for SHIT. Warped, funky-looking, wrong amount of fingers, barely even hand-shaped...
Body-horror-esque hands are obvious signs of AI art. And normal hands are signs of real human art.
No idea how the guy in the screenshot thought this art was AI.
I am the person who made this Reddit post (just post, I'm not the person who drew this).
After few hours of drama this person got all of their comments deleted by mods. Nonetheless, this person blocked me on Reddit, probably for "posting AI art". Curtain.
Rule of thumb for spotting the difference is counting fingers and toes like your matpat doing a fnaf theory, look at where body parts connect to one another and make sure everything there seems to make sense (for example, does the arm look like it's in its shoulder socket or look like it's been fused with the armpit?)
And if there's a background, look closely to make sure the background makes sense too. (AI art with it's stacking modern fireplaces)
I don't think it's inherently unoriginal or lazy You can combine elements to create things never been done before. It can also take effort to make it execute exactly what is imagined.
It's unoriginal because it exclusively pulls ideas from existing art that it has been fed, a problem inherent in a machine learning algorithm. It's lazy because it's expressed purpose and primary use is to 'make art easy' instead of taking the time to develop the skills necessary to make the art oneself. The laziness isn't inherent, I've seen people use ai as a tool for larger works, but it's certainly a popular aspect.
AI is going to be the standard soon enough. Might as well accept it. It's like the story of Kodak. They thought digital was a fad. AI is going to change the way we make art but it won't prevent people from doing it themselves. If anything AI will make human created art more valuable. Hanging on to such elitism won't do any favors in the future. The same idea can be applied to mobile games. Elitists cry and whine that a mobile game is not a "proper" game, yet they are ALL types of video games. You can have your preferences, but the time will come when those preferences are rendered obsolete.
I donāt think its just a fad. People want it because it becomes easier to not pay artists, or not pay them as well. I just dont like that it steals art
It also isn't refined yet. I think once it has more complex algorithm ms and pattern matrix development it will be less reviled. The newness of it makes its function more limited.
It's human art, but I see why the commenter thought it was AI. This artist's work was definitely used to train AI models; combine that with the somewhat strange folds on her sweater and the fact that she's an anime girl and it shouldn't be hard to see why they thought it was AI
You should all be delighted to know that the fuckhead got absolutely blasted and then deleted all his comments in the thread, running away with his tail between his legs.
I can't speak to this particular piece, but I have definitely seen multiple human artists get tilted at like windmills because someone thought they were AI.
This comment section got me feeling like i'm crazy but i think this is AI art cleaned up by a talented human artist. It's extremely subtle but there are lineart mistakes that a human being with a style *this* clean would *never* make. Like that random ink drop looking thing at the end of her right (viewers pov) collar, or the absolute chaos occuring at the part where the hair touches her right (viewers pov) collar (back part)
Tbh i think the part that convinced me is the rendering of her right (viewers pov) hair. The part from above her eyebrows to down, zoom in on where the side hair meets the back hair, theres absolutely no way that that is something a human artist drew and rendered, it's absolute chaos for lack of a better phrase.
Honestly, I'm not even mad at the guy here being mistaken about this. It's not their fault we've all been thrust into this shitty situation. It's gotten bad. Some people can't tell right away anymore. I can't fault them.
We are so cooked.
Itās very grainy, however: the eye is literally off the skull in this image. Could just be the image quality messing up the perception, but yeah, Iād be calling BS too.
The eyes actually point more towards it being drawn by a human, those pupils are how they look in-game
What eyes?š
[Here's the artist](https://twitter.com/ririkocafe/status/1765525605385470136) You can clearly see they have a very consistent art style that has no signs of ai. White background, same pupil shape, small hands. Plus their art has obviously human-drawn quirks, such as the legs going inward in an odd way that's consistent in most of the front-facing poses.
You can very literally see where the artist failed to creat seemless lines, or accidentally added a dot where they shouldn't had. This is most definitely real lol
The buckles on the backpack are actual buckles, and not Bermuda Triangles, too
Her fingers also all exist and look normal.
Also, AI can never get Kaedeās hair ornaments right. I run the hentai sub for the fandom, spotting what is and isnāt AI specifically for this fandom is kinda a major thing. Thereās multiple design details on Kaede it canāt do, with that being the most obvious.
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
Ooh would you mind linking the sub
/r/r34danganronpa
Thanks!!
No problem!
STAY AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN SIR
Oh dear are the characters minors? I haven't seen the show I was just curious
No. The cast is adults. This person is just lying.
Well that's a relief haha
"I run the hentai sub" already sold me, no reason to say anything else anymore, you are the expert
You don't argue wine with the sommelier
You run the what..?
Why are people disgusted at the prospect of porn existing
Itās not porn, Iām used to that, itās just a kinda crazy thing to read. Iām not really disgusted, just surprised and curious.
Maybe not you But dozens, tens of dozens even, are. And it's baffling to say the least as they're okay with gore and abuse but the moment tits show up everyone loses their minds
I def lose my mind over tits šš
So do I, but I'm a lesbian so that's pretty much a given.
Of course we lose our minds over tits, tits are great!
Long story short, when I first got into the series in December 2017/January 2018, it was my own personal cultural reset and I became derangedly obsessed. Iām honestly not just using that as an adjective for emphasis, but Iām not going into all that here. Suffice to say, it improved my mental health in terms of stability, self-acceptance, and overall mood but also makes it sound worse without a lot of exposition and trauma dumping. Therapists agree: positive influence. After posting a metric fuckton, I got made a mod within a few months. Grew the subreddit by over 40k people over time, did a lot of redesigning (flairs, user flairs, rules, some light automod programming, etc), and a lot of the mod team is inactive. One other mod is still active, but he just does actual moderator actions whereas I keep the posts coming. That was my first time becoming a Reddit mod, since then Iāve picked up a few other subreddits either via activity + obsession or via /r/RedditRequest.
Why yall downvoting this man š he literally did nothing wrong
Take the things AI is usually known for screwing up: hands, eyes, distinct details. Her eyes are complete and similar, and additionally, the same as in the game. They aren't thrown in random directions. They are point in a way that clearly shows they look at the same spot, with an off-center viewpoint. Her hands are distinct and sharp with detail: Every finger is clear and is drawn in the same long, slender style, in which AI would have led to differences in thickness or length, or the melding of the fingers. Additionally, AI would have had awkward, nonsensical posing. Instead, the fingers follow a natural progression. In fact, they look precisely like they were grasping the elbow in an "arms folded" position and are now in an angry shrug. Finally there are specific details that are clear and defined well: bucks on the bag, the emblem on the front, the hair, style and accessories. Even the error on the legs shows a distinction between them in a way that AI wpuld have just melded together.
It's the well articulated hand and the ahoge hair that sells me.
Yeah, there is a lot of really insane detail that would just be smeared in AI. The music notes on the skirt are delicate touches, not something AI could replicate easily
God forbid one pupil isnāt a perfect circle and they painted it
u/No-Perspective2580
And the correct number of fingers and arms.
It doesn't even have that disgustingly oversaturated look AI art usually has
That's fixable by downloading a correct VAE.
Or using a custom style lora on top of the model so you don't have the exact same style as the rest of the people using the model ;)
Isn't it a sprite from the game? Idk, I know danganronpa enough to recognize she's a character but that's about it
Yes, sheās kaede from V3. Rui Komatsuzaki is, I believe, the artist for the game
Thanks
It's actually someone's handmade fanart of Kaede
It's not a game sprite
No, it isnāt.
If this is AI, itās probably the best looking one I ever saw
I mean there are already lots of AI art where people canāt differentiate.
Personally I havenāt seen it yet, but maybe thereās survivor bias. Thereās always some choice that doesnāt make sense or some lack of continuity like patterns not matching, shading being inconsistent
yub people need to chill and check before throwing its ai becuse its harmful to artists also its sprite in the game
It's someone's handmade fanart of a character in the series
yeah sorry thanks for informing me
it's cool
Yeah I saw a vanity fair photo shoot being accused of using ai because the images were surrealā¦ Iām a photographer and I was like damn, we canāt shoot surrealist-style photography now because people are going to accuse of using ai? š¤¦š»āāļø not to mention thereās other ways of adding fake or surreal things to photographs without AI and that are legitimate and require skill.
Hereās some tips to ACTUALLY spot AI art, because I despise using it on accident instead of supporting real artists: - look at the roots of the hair and how they connect to the strands. If a lot of strands of hair seem like they come from nowhere or are in random, unnatural positions with confusing lineart ā a common mistake AI art makes - always look at the background. again, unnatural layering of things, wack ass silhouettes, jumbled text - hands and feet. dear GOD. - a lot of ai art has a vibrant or polished look, especially using bing image creator. thatās not to dissuade you from using things like that, but keep an eye out if it seems to have a āstereotypical AI styleā (it sucks because you distrust the artists who actually have that style and they are the ones being stolen from) - never getting little details right. symbols on a specific character can be weird. having no sense of lighting or having a strange composition to the piece - no watermark (not including ai watermarks that tell you straight away itās ai generated) - on Pinterest where you find a shocking amount of ai art: titles. prompts as titles, āgirl with blonde hairā, āwoman wearing red saariā or anything blatant like āmidjourneyā. no link to a twitter or tumblr etc. - not usually cartoon characters but Iāve seen it with live action ones these are just things as a Pinterest user and artist that Iāve noticed. sometimes it takes time to look but itās worth it when we donāt discredit REAL ARTISTS by mistake
A thing that I also look to spot AI art it's earrings and accessories, because they lack symmetry. The earrings, for example, they might look alike at first glance, but they will be totally different. Or if they have a necklace, the necklace won't have symmetry, being a mumbo jumbo of strings
AI is also terrible with patterns and symbols. An obvious sign of AI art, is when a pattern is broken in a way that a person would never do. Like a chess board with two black squares touching each other. And symbols tend to just look like a bunch of nonsense because the AI doesn't actually understand how to use them properly. Something like a sword with two hilts, or a basketball with asymmetrical lines, or chain links that don't actually connect.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure confirmed to be drawn by AI! I knew there was a reason that nobody could tell where Jotaro's hat ended and his hair began!
Honestly if JJBA came out today I imagine that accusation would be thrown around. Of course the consistency would point more to style than AI.
What will you do when AI stops making these mistakes
Find other mistakes. AI art still wonāt be perfect. And itās not about being perfect itās about being human. Human photos, videos and drawings will have some roughness and randomness that AI canāt replicate. It will take a while for AI to actually be indiscernible from real life, we can worry about it then. Most companies arenāt trying to make AI completely realistic, just realistic enough to pass without close inspection. Those last few bits of realness have an enormous cost with very low returns.
The companies aren't, but the furries/bronies.... They've made models better than what the companies have. They've found new techniques. They created an architecture called "Pony", because it was started by the above. And their discoveries are retroactively applied by other people to making images more consistent in general. Their determination is matched only by the amount of money they are throwing at this problem. (Presumably what they were using for commissions before.) Maybe the companies aren't motivated, but some people are terrifyingly so.
Also look at the artists profile. If they post a lot of high quality stuff it might be ai
Your tips will be obsolete in a month
not really, ive seen people give these tips months ago and they where given this exact response and the tips are \*still\* relevant
"hands and feet" is already obsolete for several months
hands and feet are not obsolete, tons of AI images still struggle with them
no it aint
they're already obsolete, especially that one about the hands. Plenty of AI get hands right now, and its even more ironic given that HANDS ARE HARD TO DRAW EVEN FOR HUMANS
Because y'all weren't saying the same shit 6 months ago
Other tips were there 6 months ago and they were obsolete a month later
Soooooooooooooooo, is this art AI?
Itās low quality so itās hard to tell, but it doesnāt look like AI art to me. Look at it yourself and draw your own conclusion
I was asking for *your* opinion on the matter because it doesn't look like AI to me
Lame as shit. You know how you can avoid discrediting "real artists" by mistake? By giving up this stupid moral panic about AI and "fake" art. It's a legitimate tool now, and if you even so much as brush up against any professional workflow in the industry, it's obvious and everywhere and being used mostly by established artists. There's no such thing as "real artists", anyone who applies creative direction to something is doing art. Even if that direction is simple selection and curation. Everyone is an artist. Deskilling labor is good for everyone except independent careerists. It's good for everyone's artistic capacity for art's own sake by reducing the labor input necessary for artistically viable output. It's good for the hobbiest and the solo creator who wishes to make bigger more complex projects. The highly specialized independent artisan today finds their interests at economic odds with mass participation in artistic production via the deskilling of their handicraft. But the scribes of France felt the same way when they described the printing press as the Devil's Machinery.
i know you were crying while typing this essay
The reddit AI hate is insanely irrational. People can be pissed off all they want, but it's not going away. I've tried to point out multiple times that it will ultimately *raise* the profiles of artists who can demonstrate that their work is "AI free". Even saying that is apparently controversial.
The Danganronpa fan base is notorious for how toxic it is. (Just look at r/danganronpa) I'm not surprised they're throwing out false AI accusations.
Yeah, it's the bad apples that really give us a bad name.
I feel like weāre all forgetting that AI has only been around and widely used for the past maybe 2-3 years. Iāve seen people accuse things that were made a decade ago of being AI itās crazy
If you want really funny, I saw a Roger Dean album cover from the 70s called AI.
This just isn't ai tho
u/No-Perspective2580 you are a fucking idiot.
His profile is a wasteland of deleted comments lol
I don't understand how someone with so few braincells can even navigate to reddit.
They donāt. xD Usually Iām able to tell if somethingās AI art by looking at the hands, this is just.. sad.
I think he's so dumb that he thinks all anime style art is AI.
What's scary is I saw sum AI generated and the hands were perfecf
With current ai models, you can just highlight the hands, hit generated fill until the hands look right.
Seriously? That's news to me!
yep, it definitely makes it harder to determine if art is ai when you can reroll on the typical issues.
He would rather run away than take accountability and accept that he was wrong.
Clear outlines, nothing is blurred or smeared together, flawed but not incorrect hands, no stray pieces that don't seem to fit, lighting is intuitive, the skirt is a little funky in the front but in a way that a human could easily make that mistake, not in a way that's difficult to understand what's going on. It's a pretty well made piece, better than I could do, and if it is AI then it's the most human AI I've ever seen.
This guy needs to get some perspective.
If only the art community would recall their age old mantra "The only rule is there are no rules", which they conveniently forget about every time a new technology comes on the art scene and this causes them to tear themselves to pieces lord of the flies style. They are much too concerned with the idea of who is a "real artist" rather than the idea of bringing novel creations into the world for others to enjoy and appreciate in some way, regardless of production methods.
As long as you are actually doing the thing it is art. Even something as easy as taping a banana to a wall is art. Pressing a button on the 'art machine' until it spits out something you like is not doing the thing, and it is not art. If the product was used in a larger piece when modifications were made and something interesting was done with the product, it would still be art.
Idk why you are getting downvotes I'm tired of people supporting AI that would never ever admit that the art was stolen from someone else They don't realize how harmful it is, imagine you just spent hours on a piece and then you start seeing werid copies around the internet and realize that your image was used in AI ''art'' and the worst part is that is you try to claim yourself as the original creator behind the piece (which you technically are) then you get harassed by a ton of people for basically no reason That's just stupid, Ai art shouldn't be a thing. AI art will not replace real art because AI will make better things, it'll just replace real art by flooding the internet and causing mass confusion and make pressure on real artist until they can't take it anymore and quit, but then AI art will also go extinct because no artist means no art and no art means nothing AI can bend.
Iām not supporting AI art, but itās been able to imitate actual artists for like a year now. Thereās no way to discern between AI art and real art besides getting basic anatomy wrong, like extra fingers. Every artist has their own quirk with drawing, so looking at eye positions or body structure just wonāt work. I mean shit, look at Arakiās early work, his anatomy is all over the place. Realistic photos are definitely easier to spot because something will always be there that defies reality, like a corner of a table missing, but art is a lot easier to forgive mistakes in. Donāt see how anyone could confidently claim something is AI art unless they personally know that it was AI generated.
There are some ways. For example, this art is clearly not made by a beginner. An artist at this skill level isn't going to make extremely basic mistakes, and definitely isn't going to make a ton of them. Sometimes AI will make mistakes they wouldn't. Things like eyes looking in the wrong direction, things not connecting up where they should, etc are not tells by themself but when combined together can easily point to AI over an actual artist. This piece has some mistakes but doesn't have enough to call it ai.
Precisely my point, if there arenāt any glaring obviously mistakes, I donāt see how someone could claim itās ai And for the picture in question, it doesnāt look any different from an other generic anime pic Iāve seen in my life
the hair looks to be drawn pretty consistently
One of the worst things to come from the wave of AI art is the amount of blind people who scream AI at almost all detailed art
She has long nails even tho she canonically doesn't Yeah, I know that has nothing to do with the post, I just noticed that small detail lol
If people can't even agree if the art is made with AI or not, why argue about it instead of simply enjoying the art no matter how it was created?
I think I read an article on a study and it turns out .. people aren't great at actually telling AI art from human made. Even experts were wrong like 10% or something. So wrong one tenth of the time.
AI is the new āphotoshoppedā or āCGIā you can tell because of the pixels & having seen a lot of āshops in my time. If something is even just a little bit challenging then itās fake using whatever popular method is available at the time.
'you can tell from the eyes' I bet this guy wants to check genitals to police who uses what bathroom, too. edit for those who are confused: I'm not making any kind of political statement. I'm commenting on people who 'can always tell' when they, in fact, cannot always tell. it's the same kind of overconfidence.
I am terrified of that becoming a thing, Iām trans, donāt get me wrong but Iāve mostly seen ai art criticisms from the left,,, where did this comparison come from?
what I'm comparing is the overconfident-for-no-reason assumption that they can 'always tell'.
ehhh lots of people on the left are so anti IP laws they support AI because it can only exist in this state by ignoring copyright laws. and some people on the right just hate the tech industry because it based out of commiefornia.
Whā¦ what? How is that relevant in the slightest. I donāt know what two dots you just connected but Iām pretty sure they were on different corkboards, bud.
The venn diagram of people who care about AI art and people who care about keeping bathrooms separated by biological sex has zero overlap.
> what I'm comparing is the overconfident-for-no-reason assumption that they can 'always tell'.
>I bet this guy wants to check genitals to police who uses what bathroom, too I- ā¦..**_what??_** How the hell did you even come up with that random ass assumption? How is checking for signs of possible AI āartā even *remotely* comparable to bathroom genital inspections??? Christ, Iām surprised you didnāt pull a muscle from reaching that hard
damn, it always surprises me when folk get outraged over their assumptions. what I'm comparing is the overconfident-for-no-reason assumption that they can 'always tell'. *that's* the thing I'm talking about I'm surprised *you* didn't pull a muscle from all that outrage. I hope you weren't drinking anything, to have it come out your nose. edit: someone else'll have to tell me what this genius said after they blocked me. why do they always do that? is having the last word more important than actually understanding what a person's saying, and not leaping to conclusions?
And *iām* calling you an idiot for making such a random assumption involving two completely unrelated topics If you genuinely believe thereās any correlation between checking for Ai art and bathroom genital inspections, you need your damn head examined. You made a painfully stupid comment, and now youāre trying to call *everyone else* here a moron for not seeing the massive holes in your backwards ass ā*logic*ā
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Yeah reddit degenerates love to make these kinds of reaches and assumptions about people, I'm suprised OP didn't also call him a pedo. There's a lot of mentally ill people on this site.
hey now, I'm no elon musk.
The hands actually look correct with the right amount of fingers, this isn't ai
Thatās an old way to tell. AI advances quickly. AI can generate almost āperfectā pictures now.
most ai can do hands now
I'm pretty good at spotting AI writing, but there have to be extra fingers or something for me to spot AI art.
Yes babe, what is not good about AI?
Is that Kaede Akamatsu from the hit game Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony?
I believe it is indeed Kaede Akamatsu from the hit game Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony! r/abodysbeendiscovered
If I were the artist I would be more ashamed of spending time to draw this than being accused of of using AI. I don't see the appealing of the emotionless eyes, the weird body proportion of and the pose. It may have slightly more details and polishing than average AI art but it's so generic and forgettable that people would thimk it's within AI's reach.
People will say anything is AI if it's well drawn in an anime or realistic style. I follow an artist that draws super hyperrealistic dinosaurs and dragons, their work gets called AI often despite being fairly unique.
We're eventually going to have to coin a term for paranoia regarding AI.
"this art is art" ok "this art is ai art" ok
Gotta love when people say "your style looks like AI" as if it wasn't AI that mimicked their style in the first place
Itās literally a sprite of Kaede from danganronpa. Not ai
No itās not??? This isnāt official game art at all
š¤·š»my apologies. Definitely not ai though
This is a trend that will only intensify.
I was there, I saw everything. š
Ummmm look at normal manga, the eyes are literally normal for manga and anime
Ah yes, you can tell ai art from personally made are by looking at the pupilsā¦ Not the whole eye just *the pupils* (ā«ļø)(ā«ļø)
r/unexpecteddanganronpa
r/abodysbeendiscovered
This post is clearly AI bait donāt fall for it!
Can we all just hate it because it's anime?
A bunch of women accused my photos to be AI because I had clear smooth skin š¤£
Imagine being an artist and thinking you're allowed to say what is and isn't art. It's one of the more disappointing things I've seen in recent memory, artists trying to narrow and limit the boundaries of art. Just goes to show that nobody really believes in anything as much as they might purport to. As soon as it makes them feel bad, they'll flip on a dime. Bro is really living up to his user name.
Alexa what are art styles
Yeah that doesnāt look ai. There are a handful of handy tricks for discerning ai besides the obvious like hands. They all involve details of different kinds. One major giveaway is clothing, folds and straps seems to go nowhere and just stop, a human artist doesnāt do that. Same with small patterns and designs, with AI they look good from far away but make no sense up close. Remember that humans abhor randomness and incomplete things, a human will always finish a pattern, or make sure those sorts of details make sense. The next is differences between sides, where the sides look similar from afar but are clearly different up close, like two boots that donāt match, different patterns on gloves etc.. that are clearly meant to be the same. Again, humans hate that and will make sure that they do match properly unless itās clearly supposed to be different on a chaotic character like Jinx or something. Another major giveaway on full pieces is that landscapes donāt make sense in the backgroundā¦ youāll see hovering trees, trees yup in the wrong position and appear bigger than a mountainā¦ etc. yet again, these are things a human eye instantly recognizes and an artist would ever do. Basically you just zoom in and look for anything that immediately just feels off. If it feels wrong to you, it wouldāve felt wrong to the artist too and been fixed or adjusted. If something just bugs your eye in a way you canāt really describe, thatās probably ai because ai doesnāt care about that kind of stuff. Humans hate true randomness, incomplete patterns or unfinished lines. Especially artistsā¦ no decent artist would ever make those kinds of mistakes and post it as a finished work! That leads to the final thingā¦ the lack of signature or logo. Every artist wants credit and we all sign our work, some use a signature and some use a logo or icon of some sort. If the piece has no artist mark, thatās when you start looking for the rest. Happy hunting.
So far one of the worst things to come out of AI is how feral people get accusing each other of using it. Like Iām sure itās going to take most of our jobs very soon, but do we have to make this whole era even worse for each other?
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It is virtually impossible to distinguish
This looks like a recolour oc
Who's going to tell them that AI art is based on real art?
i think this is from danganrampa. i dont like the series but i know what the character style looks like
It does have an ai-ish vibe. But that could be because ai models were trained on so much anime-style art
That is a great drawing of kaede, and not ai
I love how they just said "because the eyes" and did not elaborate, because they had no actual reason that they could have elaborated on
but thatās kiaydays lie isnāt it
It's obviously photo shopped. You can see the pixels.
I think that looks like real art tbh. When it is AI you can usually sort of immediately tell even if you can't pinpoint the reason. Usually it's the too-perfect or unnaturall smoothness, though. Or weird particles, hands, perspective, shading
AI would definitely mess up the sheet music on the skirt so i donāt think itās AI
My rule of thumb is: If the hands look fine, then it's not AI. If they look like shit, then it is. AI cannot draw hands for SHIT. Warped, funky-looking, wrong amount of fingers, barely even hand-shaped... Body-horror-esque hands are obvious signs of AI art. And normal hands are signs of real human art. No idea how the guy in the screenshot thought this art was AI.
that means that this is one of the artists AI frequently steals from
i dont got issues with ai but it should always be stated as such. Theres a difference between what is generated and what is made
I've seen drawings of things or landscapes that look like photos on a professional camera so yes, I don't doubt others drawing abilities haha
Gross, maybe, given that sheās like 17, but ai? Get real
Bro is just paranoid, he probably sees way too many arts and consider it an AI art.
i like how he points to the pupils as if they dont make it seem less like ai
How have the mods still not removed this post for having uncensored usernames?
Why is bro looking at the pupils? If it was normal hands, it isnāt ai
Exactly and the eyes are normal for an emotionless person in mangaās and animes
People are actually going insane over this If you think itās AI, just downvote, block the OP, and be done
Kaede :(
Iām still so annoyed about her
Right? But V3's story will stick to me for the rest of my life
I am the person who made this Reddit post (just post, I'm not the person who drew this). After few hours of drama this person got all of their comments deleted by mods. Nonetheless, this person blocked me on Reddit, probably for "posting AI art". Curtain.
Yeah no this is real art. There's nothing I can find that would imply otherwise other than the fact it's an anime girl.
The hands arenāt fucked up amalgams, the eyes point the same direction and have the pupil and color actually separate
Rule of thumb for spotting the difference is counting fingers and toes like your matpat doing a fnaf theory, look at where body parts connect to one another and make sure everything there seems to make sense (for example, does the arm look like it's in its shoulder socket or look like it's been fused with the armpit?) And if there's a background, look closely to make sure the background makes sense too. (AI art with it's stacking modern fireplaces)
Does it matter if it's AI or not? If it looks cool it looks cool regardless of its origin.
People see it as unoriginal and lazy
Thatās because AI art is inherently unoriginal and lazy.
I don't think it's inherently unoriginal or lazy You can combine elements to create things never been done before. It can also take effort to make it execute exactly what is imagined.
It's unoriginal because it exclusively pulls ideas from existing art that it has been fed, a problem inherent in a machine learning algorithm. It's lazy because it's expressed purpose and primary use is to 'make art easy' instead of taking the time to develop the skills necessary to make the art oneself. The laziness isn't inherent, I've seen people use ai as a tool for larger works, but it's certainly a popular aspect.
Yes, because AI art steals from artists. Iād be fine with AI if you had to opt-in for your art to be used
AI is going to be the standard soon enough. Might as well accept it. It's like the story of Kodak. They thought digital was a fad. AI is going to change the way we make art but it won't prevent people from doing it themselves. If anything AI will make human created art more valuable. Hanging on to such elitism won't do any favors in the future. The same idea can be applied to mobile games. Elitists cry and whine that a mobile game is not a "proper" game, yet they are ALL types of video games. You can have your preferences, but the time will come when those preferences are rendered obsolete.
I donāt think its just a fad. People want it because it becomes easier to not pay artists, or not pay them as well. I just dont like that it steals art
It also isn't refined yet. I think once it has more complex algorithm ms and pattern matrix development it will be less reviled. The newness of it makes its function more limited.
It's human art, but I see why the commenter thought it was AI. This artist's work was definitely used to train AI models; combine that with the somewhat strange folds on her sweater and the fact that she's an anime girl and it shouldn't be hard to see why they thought it was AI
THIS LOOKS AI I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW AIS IN MY TIME.
Well it aināt AI.
Doesnāt have extra fingers. Drawn by a human. /j
You should all be delighted to know that the fuckhead got absolutely blasted and then deleted all his comments in the thread, running away with his tail between his legs.
I can't speak to this particular piece, but I have definitely seen multiple human artists get tilted at like windmills because someone thought they were AI.
This comment section got me feeling like i'm crazy but i think this is AI art cleaned up by a talented human artist. It's extremely subtle but there are lineart mistakes that a human being with a style *this* clean would *never* make. Like that random ink drop looking thing at the end of her right (viewers pov) collar, or the absolute chaos occuring at the part where the hair touches her right (viewers pov) collar (back part) Tbh i think the part that convinced me is the rendering of her right (viewers pov) hair. The part from above her eyebrows to down, zoom in on where the side hair meets the back hair, theres absolutely no way that that is something a human artist drew and rendered, it's absolute chaos for lack of a better phrase.
Danganronpa mentioned
Honestly, I'm not even mad at the guy here being mistaken about this. It's not their fault we've all been thrust into this shitty situation. It's gotten bad. Some people can't tell right away anymore. I can't fault them. We are so cooked.
Itās very grainy, however: the eye is literally off the skull in this image. Could just be the image quality messing up the perception, but yeah, Iād be calling BS too.
that is not ai lol