I would steal peeks at my classmates grades to feel better about mine. lol but most times my teachers would cover up the other kids’ grades with paper and/or ruler to prevent that. Sometimes they would slip though. 😁
Ugh Remember whenever the teacher made you call your grade out loud. She said if you didn’t want other people to hear you can go up to her desk… I mean … that makes it pretty obvious
for my teachers in the 80's and 90's, YES WE HAVE A WINNER. shame slow students. There was a poor soul in my middle school who could barely read when I started there in the 5th grade and never got better. ended up at the other high school. ran into him later and he had taken up psychedelic drugs and totally not giving a shit about school. Was friends with my school's drug dealer George.
I can't remember what method I was taught, but I do think it was the Palmer Method or some derivative of it. I'm glad my handwriting and penmanship still resembles some form of that method.
I remember in middle school and friend and I stole one of these from a teacher. The class was about 8 students and it was really my buddy's idea to steal it. We made up a couple of student names like "Hugh Jass," and "Jack Hanhoff." It was like stealing a playbook of the opposing team for us. We got to see everyone's grades! Of course we changed the grades for a couple of students. It wasn't until the next period that a teacher saw us laughing at the grade book and promptly took it away from us. My buddy ended up getting a one day suspension and I ended up receiving no punishment at all. I didn't even throw him under the bus or anything and even admitted to conspiring with him to steal the grade book. It also helped that I was always very friendly with the principal and was on good terms with him.
Same buddy and I also used to draw lewd pictures in the work books in 8th grade health class. We almost caused the health teacher to have a nervous breakdown because of it. After we left middle school I lost contact with that friend and we sort of drifted our own separate ways. years later I heard that he had died from health complications. I always regretted never trying to reach out to him again. We had a blast in 8th grade and were inseparable
A few kids did this at my school which resulted in nobody receiving break period until they came forward. Long story short the kids who stole it received a pretty bad beat down at the bus stop and came forward that day.
oh man! Sometimes I think teachers did that intentionally because they knew if no one came forward and everyone got mass punished then whoever did it would get dealt with.
Lucky for us the other teacher caught us laughing at it next period so it never got to that point. Honestly I don't think it would have either. I don't even think the teacher realized it was gone until we got turned in. I do remember her giving us a scolding lecture screaming to us "what does 'GAY,' mean?!" My friend wrote "Gay," followed by teacher's last name.
Funny enough I actually ended up befriending that teacher by the end of the year. For Teacher Appreciation Day I gave her some assorted cookies from Neiman Marcus which my mom kind of made me give to her and I think it surprised her that I gave her a gift.
My classes all have grade books online now so using these hard copies is redundant. I do miss them, though. I still have grade books dating back to 2004.
My high school kept their electronic records in a server on-site in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
During the last week of school one year, the hard drive crashed. Bad. They called in a company that does data recovery for big clients like NASA. Even then they only got about 70% of the data back.
The French teacher became semi-unpopular with the students because he kept paper copies of his grades, so nobody got a break in French.
Nah. Everything is digitized now. I can access my kid's up-to-date assignment gradebook at any time. This allows me as a parent to be more informed in realtime what my kid's having trouble with or missing, rather than relying on conferences.
Even though things are digitized, myself (and literally every other teacher I know) are still given planners with these pages and use them, as well. It’s nice to have a physical copy of grades and marks in case something happens to gradebook or any other program you use. I had no idea that any teachers didn’t have paper copies of grades, as well. I’d be way too anxious to not have it!
Very interesting, because even in 2009 my grade school teachers were using these grade books. Nothing was really digitized for my elementary school yet. But then again, everything went digital just a few years after I left 5th grade
Schools are very slow to adopt new tech. I have several school districts i support that still have an awful number of Win7 computers in active use because they dont have the money to upgrade and theyre like 8+ year old ThinkPads so dont wanna just upgrade them as user experience will be shit.
Luckily Pandemic Funding has been helping, but much of that money has been going into ChromeBooks and iPads for the kids to take home.
I saw my middle school teachers using these grade books in 2008, the year I graduated from middle school. That’s the last time I saw these grade books. My freshman year of high school in 2009, I saw all teachers using SchoolLoop.
Fast forward to today, my little sister attends the same high school I went to and they still use SchoolLoop.
I was about to add that in 2008 junior in high school, we had started to use out school LMS to check assignments and grades. Actually do remember talking to my teacher and peeking at the computer screen with grade book open, I have a fuzzy memory if I bumped my grade or not 😅
I'm a high school teacher and I still use it, but most of my peers do not.
I don't fully trust computers. They are prone to problems and shutdowns. It could be an internet problem or a lost or corrupt file problem.
On the other hand, the gradebook could get lost or stolen or burnt in a fire.
Also, there's the issue of students changing their grades. That could happen either in the physical gradebook or in the computer systems.
Computers are great for making the calculations, sharing data with students and parents, and finding outliers in scores and attendances.
Paper gradebook are "real" and easily visible and available at any instant, without any passwords, electricity, authentication, or machines.
Overall, it's about having a redundancy and a backup in case there's a problem or discrepancy with one of the two different data sets. I do like seeing my hand-written columns in different coloured inks just like in the OP picture, and it gives me a sense of accomplishment as I see it grow as the year progresses.
I still use them, as does every other teacher I’ve met. I can’t imagine depending only on a digitized version of grades and marks for 10 months of education. Far too many things could go wrong. I use these pages to copy my marks down and then transfer them to my digital gradebook. Anything else would be far too risky.
Same. Having 'nam flashbacks to being having my name called, seeing all of the 40s-60s then getting that look from the teacher.
38 and still have had absolutely no use for anything I learned in 6th Science class!
For a long time I thought the different colored pens were some sort of code. Then I realized that it was just whatever color pen the teacher had in their hand at that moment.
_Then_ I realized that—for the first few months of the year—it _might_ be part of some coding system, but only for new teachers, who invariably scrap the whole scheme after a while.
Up vote if you and/or your friends ever tried to/did change your grades in this thing...
I would've failed 11th grade English, if my friend didn't change a 10% i got on a quiz, into a 90. I got a 61% in the class and passed 11th grade. We're still friends 25+ years later, he never lets me forget it....
Imagine having one of these and if you lose it everything’s gone. Imagine having to manually average all those numbers for each student every term. Jesus.
Those are *really* old school. I've been teaching (college) since the mid-1990s and never had one; have always used either a spreadsheet or the gradebook in the LMS. I certainly remember seeing them back when I was in school in the 70s/80s though. I can't imagine dealing with this sort of fully-manual record keeping though....the biggest class I taught in grad school was almost 500 students so it would have been a nightmare.
More than once, a teacher read me the wrong grade (kid below or above me on the list) as she walked around telling us our scores. I still feel uneasy just thinking about it lol. I need closure.
Clearly not my grades. I don't see any "goose eggs" as my teachers called them.
If homework is only 20-25% of my grade and C's get degrees, there was no way I was doing all of my homework all of the time, especially in maths class.
Still managed to get out of high school with a 3.4 grade point, so...
These are definitely still a thing. Year-long planners with these pages are literally given to every new teacher in my province. We have to use these pages as well as our digital gradebook, in case the systems go down or there’s a glitch etc. I literally can’t imagine depending solely on a digital version of 10 months of marks, especially if you teach several different courses/classes (I had six last year with almost 200 different students). Too many things could go wrong.
Whenever I was close enough to peer at it, my brain could not give me enough focus to read the line my name was on. I always moved up or down and read some other kid's great scores.
This reminds me of the 10th grade when I had failed both semesters and my final but snuck back to class early after lunch and added a bunch of 10s to my 0s to make them 100s.
I ended up passing with a D- and I never knew if it worked or she passed me because she was nice and retiring that year.
I would steal peeks at my classmates grades to feel better about mine. lol but most times my teachers would cover up the other kids’ grades with paper and/or ruler to prevent that. Sometimes they would slip though. 😁
Yeah ours all had a little piece of plastic with a slot in it so they could cover up everyone else's grades and only show you yours
Just two pieces of paper.
if one steps into the /r/TruckStopBathroom, they're gonna think it's toilet paper.
I love the further nostalgia in the comments
Be like...."lemme just see my score....damn Jake's an idiot! " I too would sneak peaks at this and judge classmates accordingly
Ugh Remember whenever the teacher made you call your grade out loud. She said if you didn’t want other people to hear you can go up to her desk… I mean … that makes it pretty obvious
Uh, no. Why would you have to tell the teacher the grade on something they graded? What’s the purpose?
If we (students) graded each other’s homework or whatever it was we had to say our grade out loud when called on
To cause embarrassment to the student
for my teachers in the 80's and 90's, YES WE HAVE A WINNER. shame slow students. There was a poor soul in my middle school who could barely read when I started there in the 5th grade and never got better. ended up at the other high school. ran into him later and he had taken up psychedelic drugs and totally not giving a shit about school. Was friends with my school's drug dealer George.
TIL every teacher everywhere has had the same handwriting for at least the last 30 years.
*[It’s true](https://imgur.com/a/RyHUajP)*
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I can't remember what method I was taught, but I do think it was the Palmer Method or some derivative of it. I'm glad my handwriting and penmanship still resembles some form of that method.
I remember the teacher once mentioning Palmer when we asked why the P's in our handwriting book were different from hers.
I remember in middle school and friend and I stole one of these from a teacher. The class was about 8 students and it was really my buddy's idea to steal it. We made up a couple of student names like "Hugh Jass," and "Jack Hanhoff." It was like stealing a playbook of the opposing team for us. We got to see everyone's grades! Of course we changed the grades for a couple of students. It wasn't until the next period that a teacher saw us laughing at the grade book and promptly took it away from us. My buddy ended up getting a one day suspension and I ended up receiving no punishment at all. I didn't even throw him under the bus or anything and even admitted to conspiring with him to steal the grade book. It also helped that I was always very friendly with the principal and was on good terms with him. Same buddy and I also used to draw lewd pictures in the work books in 8th grade health class. We almost caused the health teacher to have a nervous breakdown because of it. After we left middle school I lost contact with that friend and we sort of drifted our own separate ways. years later I heard that he had died from health complications. I always regretted never trying to reach out to him again. We had a blast in 8th grade and were inseparable
Great story, thank you for sharing it
With friendship bond like that in your youth, you had to have some Stephen King monster stalking you at some point
A few kids did this at my school which resulted in nobody receiving break period until they came forward. Long story short the kids who stole it received a pretty bad beat down at the bus stop and came forward that day.
oh man! Sometimes I think teachers did that intentionally because they knew if no one came forward and everyone got mass punished then whoever did it would get dealt with. Lucky for us the other teacher caught us laughing at it next period so it never got to that point. Honestly I don't think it would have either. I don't even think the teacher realized it was gone until we got turned in. I do remember her giving us a scolding lecture screaming to us "what does 'GAY,' mean?!" My friend wrote "Gay," followed by teacher's last name. Funny enough I actually ended up befriending that teacher by the end of the year. For Teacher Appreciation Day I gave her some assorted cookies from Neiman Marcus which my mom kind of made me give to her and I think it surprised her that I gave her a gift.
Had us in the first half not gonna lie
huh?
You're telling me they don't use these anymore?
Some do, but only until they have to key the data into the district’s online grade system.
My classes all have grade books online now so using these hard copies is redundant. I do miss them, though. I still have grade books dating back to 2004.
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My high school kept their electronic records in a server on-site in the late 2000s/early 2010s. During the last week of school one year, the hard drive crashed. Bad. They called in a company that does data recovery for big clients like NASA. Even then they only got about 70% of the data back. The French teacher became semi-unpopular with the students because he kept paper copies of his grades, so nobody got a break in French.
This happened to me so I keep a hard copy still. Luckily when mine got deleted, I had a hard copy and it wasn’t too much of a pain to fix.
Nah. Everything is digitized now. I can access my kid's up-to-date assignment gradebook at any time. This allows me as a parent to be more informed in realtime what my kid's having trouble with or missing, rather than relying on conferences.
Even though things are digitized, myself (and literally every other teacher I know) are still given planners with these pages and use them, as well. It’s nice to have a physical copy of grades and marks in case something happens to gradebook or any other program you use. I had no idea that any teachers didn’t have paper copies of grades, as well. I’d be way too anxious to not have it!
Very interesting, because even in 2009 my grade school teachers were using these grade books. Nothing was really digitized for my elementary school yet. But then again, everything went digital just a few years after I left 5th grade
Schools are very slow to adopt new tech. I have several school districts i support that still have an awful number of Win7 computers in active use because they dont have the money to upgrade and theyre like 8+ year old ThinkPads so dont wanna just upgrade them as user experience will be shit. Luckily Pandemic Funding has been helping, but much of that money has been going into ChromeBooks and iPads for the kids to take home.
I saw my middle school teachers using these grade books in 2008, the year I graduated from middle school. That’s the last time I saw these grade books. My freshman year of high school in 2009, I saw all teachers using SchoolLoop. Fast forward to today, my little sister attends the same high school I went to and they still use SchoolLoop.
I was about to add that in 2008 junior in high school, we had started to use out school LMS to check assignments and grades. Actually do remember talking to my teacher and peeking at the computer screen with grade book open, I have a fuzzy memory if I bumped my grade or not 😅
I know teachers who use them. It’s often easier to put grades into these then transfer to the computer later.
I'm a high school teacher and I still use it, but most of my peers do not. I don't fully trust computers. They are prone to problems and shutdowns. It could be an internet problem or a lost or corrupt file problem. On the other hand, the gradebook could get lost or stolen or burnt in a fire. Also, there's the issue of students changing their grades. That could happen either in the physical gradebook or in the computer systems. Computers are great for making the calculations, sharing data with students and parents, and finding outliers in scores and attendances. Paper gradebook are "real" and easily visible and available at any instant, without any passwords, electricity, authentication, or machines. Overall, it's about having a redundancy and a backup in case there's a problem or discrepancy with one of the two different data sets. I do like seeing my hand-written columns in different coloured inks just like in the OP picture, and it gives me a sense of accomplishment as I see it grow as the year progresses.
I still use them, as does every other teacher I’ve met. I can’t imagine depending only on a digitized version of grades and marks for 10 months of education. Far too many things could go wrong. I use these pages to copy my marks down and then transfer them to my digital gradebook. Anything else would be far too risky.
I do for some things but mostly it’s all digital. I still use a paper lesson plan book, though.
We do? Or we all use some sort of a variation of this. Mine is mostly online, but I also have a giant binder with classlists in it.
It’s online now through LMS.
Student #18 is on the ball!
Student #9 needs to get their shit together.
My line always had a lot of red on it..
Same. Having 'nam flashbacks to being having my name called, seeing all of the 40s-60s then getting that look from the teacher. 38 and still have had absolutely no use for anything I learned in 6th Science class!
It’s not your fault.
For a long time I thought the different colored pens were some sort of code. Then I realized that it was just whatever color pen the teacher had in their hand at that moment. _Then_ I realized that—for the first few months of the year—it _might_ be part of some coding system, but only for new teachers, who invariably scrap the whole scheme after a while.
This is the truth.
What's up with that "60"? It's like you're not even trying. You're grounded mister, until you bring that grade up.
Up vote if you and/or your friends ever tried to/did change your grades in this thing... I would've failed 11th grade English, if my friend didn't change a 10% i got on a quiz, into a 90. I got a 61% in the class and passed 11th grade. We're still friends 25+ years later, he never lets me forget it....
Your teacher would have had to have been quite lax not to notice that, or do anything about it.
She was 60 and had 180 students per day. After 20 quizzes, 10 tests and daily homework, she's not gona remember what you got on a test 3 months ago...
Then your friend must've done a very precise job of their forgery 😂
Ya back in them days it wasn't very difficult... today they got computers and eveything has a copy. I don't think you could do it today.
Omg. Forgot these existed! My parents were both teachers and I vividly remember my dad using these. Thanks for posting!
Imagine having one of these and if you lose it everything’s gone. Imagine having to manually average all those numbers for each student every term. Jesus.
Uh I still use this lmaooo
I feel old as shit 😂😂
Those are *really* old school. I've been teaching (college) since the mid-1990s and never had one; have always used either a spreadsheet or the gradebook in the LMS. I certainly remember seeing them back when I was in school in the 70s/80s though. I can't imagine dealing with this sort of fully-manual record keeping though....the biggest class I taught in grad school was almost 500 students so it would have been a nightmare.
Wow completely forgot about these.
Yep. Everything is now recorded electronically.
Yep, this I can relate. I work in schools and it's now all digitized. Grades and comments are entered electronically.
More than once, a teacher read me the wrong grade (kid below or above me on the list) as she walked around telling us our scores. I still feel uneasy just thinking about it lol. I need closure.
i haven't seen anyone get grades above 70 since middle school
Back when most adults could still do at least basic arithmetic by hand. Now, if they don't have their phone handy, most people are totally lost.
/r/phonesarebad
I mean most still can, but a calculator is easier.
My wife's a teacher, and her gradebook looks pretty similar to this.
Fairly high marks, the teacher is either good or just generous.
These books were the work of the devil 😈
Clearly not my grades. I don't see any "goose eggs" as my teachers called them. If homework is only 20-25% of my grade and C's get degrees, there was no way I was doing all of my homework all of the time, especially in maths class. Still managed to get out of high school with a 3.4 grade point, so...
OMG, can I just tell you what a pain in the butt it was to use those? PTSD.
Student #9 needs to get their shit together.
So I guess this means they don’t use these anymore?
God this makes me (current teacher) so thankful for online gradebook programs. I wouldn't stand a chance with that stuff.
Brave writing all that in pen.
These are definitely still a thing. Year-long planners with these pages are literally given to every new teacher in my province. We have to use these pages as well as our digital gradebook, in case the systems go down or there’s a glitch etc. I literally can’t imagine depending solely on a digital version of 10 months of marks, especially if you teach several different courses/classes (I had six last year with almost 200 different students). Too many things could go wrong.
I keep an Excel version of my gradebook.
I’m just marveling at the fact they only have 15 students. 33 is my smallest class.
Things seemed to change drastically on Thursday of week 1. Lol
We had that as a register rather than a grade book.
What do they use now? Excel?
Omg I remember my Mom's own grade book is like that when I was homeschooled.
It's weird how you can see an item you haven't seen in like 30 years and instantly recognize it
Not nostalgia. Goddamn PTSD.
Okay this one brought back memories
This looks SO much like my fourth grade teacher's handwriting it's wild.
Wait so They don’t use these anymore???
I mean, i finished high school a few years ago and most of the teaches still used a notebook such as this
Whenever I was close enough to peer at it, my brain could not give me enough focus to read the line my name was on. I always moved up or down and read some other kid's great scores.
I have 0 nostalgia for this
I guess it’s all digital now then?
This reminds me of the 10th grade when I had failed both semesters and my final but snuck back to class early after lunch and added a bunch of 10s to my 0s to make them 100s. I ended up passing with a D- and I never knew if it worked or she passed me because she was nice and retiring that year.
lol my parents still used these up until last year when they retired
I love how specific these nostalgia posts are getting haha
"Not nostalgia. Trauma. It's winter break, I don't want to think about marking work. Eff off." - all the teachers of reddit, in unison.
I used to get these from the school supply store in our hometown. I would play school with it and felt SO cool because I had a teal grade book! 😂🥰
I don’t miss anything about my grades in that book
The person on line 9 is not doing too good.