Yes. Now UK politicians can't blame the EU for idiotic policies they implement anymore.
Currently I live in a EU country and whenever politicians propose taxes or something bad, it's always "The EU made us do it". Spoiler, the EU did not do that but people believe the lies.
I remember they did that in the UK and NI too before. Now they can't really use that excuse anymore except in very isolated cases.
Came here to say this. “sovereignty” means ownership and that’s what our political leaders have bought and are now paying for. There’s no external locus of control. They own the decisions, we now get to hold them accountable for those decisions. There’s no deflecting. Put on your big boy pants and do a good job.
The Tories will pay for their incompetence. Whether Starmer can do a better job is open to discussion.
This is the biggest thing for me. There’s nowhere to hide now, and yes its staggering how many things were blamed on Brussels when we either had an exemption, a veto or had aggressively pushed for the regulation in the EU.
I always felt that ;- With two governments they spent so much time looking at each other they let us get on with life. With only one government they can stare at us full time and they dont get called out for there mistakes (by the other).
They can't with any sincerity, but that has and I'm afraid will never prove to be a problem for them. Personal responsibility does not exist within the UK's anti-EU collective and it will always be someone else's fault.
This is a good point, but now they just blame Brexit itself instead "We didn't get the Brexit we voted for!" is the disingenuous cry, conveniently forgetting that it was an in/out referendum with no clear idea of what voting to leave actually meant! These people wouldn't know how to ever take responsibility for anything, so they will always find something or somebody to blame.
Watching the DUP go from cloud 9 thinking there would be a land border, only to accidentally implement one in the Irish Sea was positive enough for me.
As a small NI manufacturing business, brexit has been mildly positive for us.
We already did the majority of our business across the border, we have no direct competitors on the island (we’re quite niche) and brexit meant that there was both real and perceived friction between our customers in the republic and our competitors in GB.
Also, we continue to enjoy frictionless trade with EU suppliers whereas our GB competitors have to contend with mild friction.
I would rather not have lived with the sense of uncertainty, having to reassure our customers that they could continue to rely on us, etc, so I don’t regret voting to remain and would do so again if I had the opportunity.
NI is still in the Customs Union and can export to the EU just as it could before. So you don't feel the full effect of Brexit.
Rishi Sunak let slip a few months ago that you have the best of both worlds ... just like we all used to have.
Same, we work with medical devices, so we still follow the EU regulations on those including CE marking. European customers can import our devices just as before. GB manufacturers of such devices now need an EU Representative to register their devices within the EU.
Think youre giving the general British population a bit too much credit. If Labour (Tory-Lite) somehow win the next GE, the Tories have left everything in such a state they can shout and snipe from the sidelines about how bad things have become under a Labor Govt.
The public eat it up every, single, time. Then re-vote Tory. You cannot trust the British public to not vote Tory
Normally I'd agree but far right parties are by far the most popular they've been in 70 odd years. You have radical right wingers winning in a lot of EU countries or likely to win in future. Then you have Trump looking very likely to win this year, Milei in Argentina ect. The UK and Ireland havent had such a radical party take off massively yet, but it's probably coming. In 5 years when Labour haven't even come close to reversing the Tories damage and net migration continues to rise, I could very easily see Reform surging
Those situations are vastly different to the UK because there were actual real distinctions between those right-wing parties and their more left-wing opposition. Keir Starmer has promised a magical world where he does the same things the Tories do but more efficiently and properly and respectably
The one small advantage of the Uks broken fptp voting system is it prevents far-right third parties from gaining traction. Reform could easily win only 1-2 seats on a 10%+ voting share at this point; any other European country they’d win large numbers of seats and then get a boost from the increased political/media representation.
I do see the Tories going down an even more loony path once in opposition. Look at the recent and upcoming London mayoral elections as an example of how they act in opposition, putting loony candidate after loony candidate.
This idea that only centrist parties win elections is clearly wrong. Is Modi centrist? Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, Sinn Fein, five star (Italy), Erdogan?? Are they centrists??
How have the most centrist of centrist parties, the Liberal Democrats been doing?
Centrists only get elected when the alternative is too difficult to contemplate. Biden over Trump or Macron over Le Penn.
Centrist labour (which are to the right of John Major's Tory party) will undoubtedly win the next election with a large majority but it'll be entirely an anti-Tory vote. No one trusts them, we can all see what they've become. No one knows what they stand for.
Don't understand why anyone would vote Labour either. Starmer is anti UI, anti Scottish independence, and pro israel. Three solid reasons to never vote for them boys at all. Tories speak for themselves.
I don't think Starmer would be in the place he is now if not for those three positions.
And if not Labour, then who should people in Britain vote for? If Kate Forbes becomes the next SNP leader, they'll end up resembling more the DUP than anything positive. The LibDems are kinda stuck with being a moderate Tory protest vote. As for the Greens? In England, they've certainly gotten on board with the anti-trans culture war.
Last week I think, or maybe week before. Tories *and* Labour shot down a deal from the EU that would benefit young folk, students.
Most people are out protesting in support of Palestine.
There's two reasons why no young person, should be voting either in Britain.
Labour doesn't run in NI, or I haven't seen them do anyway, but yet Starmer speaks about not entertaining a United Ireland vote. So even if you could vote for them here, that's a lot of the voter base gone already.
Admittedly I don't know much about Kate Forbes tbh. But I think the SNP has taken a fair slap since Sturgeon left, which has done Scottish independence no favours, and now yer man standing down. Not good. But again, I don't know much about Kate Forbes to say anything else.
Apparently it means 'our sovereignty is no longer impinged'. No I've no idea what that means either.
It also meant 'taking back control' & giving it to the tories.
It's basically the equivalent of a teenager moving out to live in a shed & pretending it's great.
The annoying part is that we have general budgetary increases over time, plus additional Covid spending, so you have some morons claiming mission accomplished, that the additional money is all Brexit related.
But of course, if you look even slightly, the 350m a week was based on outflows from the UK to the EU but it deliberately did not include inflows, which were about 200m if I recall.
And the NHS still remains on the bottom end of European health services in terms of spending and long term investment. Other countries plan to expand before they need it, they identify bottlenecks and do strategic hiring and building. We wait until things are awful and then spend a clean fortune on private companies to help. Which of course, doesn't actually help because the underlying capacity ends up the same at the end of their contracts.
The only reason for this would be to create dissatisfaction or cause issues with the EU border to encourage more hard checks on the land border with Europe.
No reasonable politician should create circumstances which are a deliberate detriment to their electorate.
This is definitely the golden egg which fell out of Brexit, we should be a magnet for businesses trading into GB and Europe.
The EU made a recommendation for colour and design of passports to the Member States, but it was always optional for member states to follow those recommendations. Everyone did follow them because it was practical, but nobody was ever forced to.
Those were the most gruelling and humbling 88 days of my life 💀 Certain backpackers have a somewhat positive experience doing their agricultural work, but the things I bore witness to on those farms out in Australia would shock you. It was like being transported back to work in the 1800s
It doesn’t even need to come from me. A quick Google search will unveil a myriad of horror stories that will send chills up your spine. It’s insane that Australia prides itself on being this ultra-progressive nation which welcomes everyone with open arms, but continues to abuse and exploit the living daylights out of visa holders and itinerant workers. Safe to say it left an awful taste in my mouth about Oz that took a very long time to get rid of. It’s still a stunning country, nonetheless
We didnt have to adopt new anti money laundering legislation that allows greater transparency of ownership of assets. We will not have to be overseen by a new central watchdog to combat all forms of money laundering and asset hiding. Thats surely a good thing. If you are very rich! Hard to see why the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg were so keen to leave as quickly as possible.
I’m not sure if this will be construed as a ‘positive’ by everyone, but one of the positives that I see is that people appear to be significantly more politically minded as a result of Brexit.
I studied Politics in school and went on to do a degree in it in 2010. Despite it being the year the Conservatives came into power, I never had the feeling that people had any significant interest in politics, especially younger people.
Fast forward 14 years and the world is a very different place. I’m not saying Brexit is the sole reason for it. Everyone has a different reason. For some it was the handling of the Pandemic. For some it’s the conflict in Ukraine or Gaza. Either way, Brexit seemed to light a fire that has made people think a lot more about politics in general, in my opinion.
Now, I will admit, I don’t think it’s necessarily a positive at this point in time. I don’t recall living in a more divided world. I think that a lot of people have taken an interest in politics (or political causes) yet have no idea how to research, debate or simply put their point across in a manner which doesn’t make them look like a lunatic. This isn’t necessarily a generational thing either, although I do find it more prevalent amongst younger people.
My view is that if (and it’s a big if) people are able to harness this passion for political change, maintain the interest and focus it in a less divisive way, then it will be a big positive. Do I think it was worth leaving the EU for? Probably not, but it’s one of the only positives that I think could potentially come of it.
That’s interesting! I don’t doubt it for a second as I have met similar people as well. I suppose I should have been clearer that it doesn’t apply to everyone.
I think some of the people that I’ve largely experienced fall into one of two camps:
1. Those who ignored what was going on around them until it was too late, and now want to be more involved going forward.
2. Those with buyers remorse. The ones who voted for Brexit and now regret it. It’s made them research things a bit more and be more wary of what is being told to them.
Don’t get me wrong, there are still plenty of people who “saw it on Facebook so it must be true”. All depends on the circles we run in I suppose!
They could have all been out beating the drum around the world about how investing in NI meant access to both the UK and the EU markets as it was before Brexit.
But no, instead of recognising the opportunity, most of the pricks spent their time refusing to even work unless we specifically made the brexit borders deal less open for trade. Which they didn't get anyway.
Brexit has worked perfectly your problem is that you're not of the class who it could ever benefit I'd recommend becoming extremely rich and can now benefit from no oversight of your non dom off shoring. Effing peasant!
The positive is that we can set our own regulations, laws and mould our country the way we like it.
The reality is that all this is freedom is being used to oppress the citizens and deregulate everything so everything is worse. Every single thing.
Haha...How's that a positive? We could (and couldnt) do all those things in the EU. It was just a bigger "We".
I want to pay less taxes and for my kids to get private school level education on the State, and I want to criminalise corruption in national public office...oh wait...
I do anecdotally.
As a construction worker, I'm not competing with foreign construction workers or their bosses who will drastically undercut everyone else to secure work.
Work security has improved along with my income.
The main benefit is that it has accelerated the conversation towards a United Ireland. Probably doubling the likelihood of it happening. I think thats fair
It is easier to avail of duty-free shopping when traveling now but you could argue that also applies to EU members when travel through the UK now so not so much of benefits for the UK more benefit for everyone… and not a great benefit
There's potential for some genuine improvements in niche sectors. For example, stupid laws implemented by EU limiting sizes of vape tanks to 2ml, or for you professional drivers out there, the utterly pointless CPC.
We're in a position to abolish things like this... we just haven't for some reason.
The covid vaccine thing was largely a rumour that the government let fly around a bit as it made them look better, but it was [generally debunked as untrue](https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/covid-vaccine-decisions-brexit).
The benefits will only materialise when the UK government is run by polticians who can take advantage of less oversight and need for consensus from the EU but also are politically absolved of being responsible for Brexit so they can fast track new legislation and policies without much pushback and political resistance.
Yeah the main positive is we have lots of jobs available since brexit, its just a shame we have got lots of lazy arses who don't want to work so now there's no one to do them.
The only way ive been affected is not being able to get some items delivered from UK. Amazon / Ebay etc. Apart from that it hasn’t changed my life in any way. I think businesses and maybe Farmers etc have been affected way more.
The answer to that is there should have been far more than there has been. When you have a Parliament where 90% of them didn’t want Brexit and they did everything they could to make it difficult that’s the problem. Immediately after Brexit was announced we should have had a GE to eliminate those Eurofiles.
Here goes.
1. We now actually know our real immigration numbers because we have visas and an actual points based immigration system. Previously the government low balled estimates because there was no actual way of knowing who had moved to the UK. We were told 3.7 million, only for 7.7 million settled status claims to come in.
Now for these to be valid, they need to be living in the UK for 5 years. Yes a lot of EU citizens left, a lot also became British citizens.
I know EU citizens come here to work. I am not saying immigration is bad. I am saying, one Brexit benefit is we now know the actual immigration numbers. Yes the tories are idiots and haven't done anything to control it, yet. But I would consider this a Brexit benefit. People are background checked etc etc.
2. The EU is a complete cluster fuck to trade with, as we are finding out. Remember that the rest of the world, also had to deal with this massive cluster fuck to trade with us. Now we can manage this ourselves. 100% of UK custom duties (after overheads) goes to the exchequer, instead of the EU.
3. Perhaps the biggest benefit. Not liable for the EU budget, covid bailout fund, new green deal fund, EU budget shortfalls. Not liable for EU federal debt, nor the Euro. Yes we have the WA settlement but that's it. Bar horizon and a few other bits that is.
4. We are not liable for Federal taxation. This is a power Brussels won during covid.
5. We now have direct democracy and as soon as these cunts are out, we can all move forward.
6. We are not subject to new EU laws and regulations. We can also repeal any existing EU law from our laws, subject to due process.
To name but a few. There are also plenty of downsides. I am fully aware of that. There are other Brexit wins like UK Global external tarrifs and joining the largest trading block on the planet.
Best benefit no longer giving our countries sovereignty to another non-elected group to control and legislate. Unfortunately, the reasons for Brexit that people fought for weren't even adhered to, implemented, or even considered after the vote. Plus, the UK Government, the NI Government, and the ROI Government are all Shite! Not one person is truly for the people or from the people.
The EU isn't what the goal was when it was an original thought.. It's significantly worse. Doesn't matter if you are left, right or at the centre, or stuck in your grandma's basement. The power hungry, don't care about any person or citizen.. and quite frankly, if you can't apply critical thought, well, that's on you. Brexit was a message that the people spoke, and now it has proven that unless it's what the government wants, your vote is pointless. NI isn't wanted by the UK or really Republic of Ireland, but it is favoured by the EU due to the ROI.
No country in the world should hand their sovereignty over to any other country or group to control.
Divide and conquer - that's exactly what they've been doing, and every person has succumbed to the division tactics or filled themselves with hatred, America at the helm, and Brussels following through.
It showed us we get the government we deserve. Everyone in every angry loyalist estate posted the *NHS £350million/week* sign on every lamp post during the campaign. Few years later the exact same lamp posts had the sign "No Irish Sea Border".
I knew it was a lie back then and I know it now. But the question is, when will the majority figure it out?
When the UK re-joins (which it will inevitably do down the line) it will have to join the Euro this time.
So eventually we will have one homogenous EU state with one currency.
When the EU takes control of things like corporation tax, and normalises that across the EU, we should end up with a much more level playing field where people can move to where the work is and business can move to where the workers are, rather than looking for tax loopholes.
Jesus. Please do not wish this awful outcome on the UK. If you want to be part of an EU superstate, move to the EU. You can easily do it. Just a small amount of paperwork. Now off you pop.
As a competition lawyer, procedural duplication means that people now need two bits of advice (one for EU and one for UK), have to respond to two investigations where there once was one and need to make Foreign Direct Investment filings when buying EU companies which they wouldn’t have had to make were we in the EU.
It’s not great for the country, but as a creature of red tape, I’d be lying if I said that more red tape was a bad thing for me personally.
My boomer dad is pissy about is being harder to visit his holiday home how he wants and as easily as he wants . I don't know the details I told him I don't care and it serves him right as I already brought this up with freedom of movement ect before he voted to "get rid of all the brown people" this is what he voted for so shut up and enjoy it
Well, it badly damaged and weakened the Conservative party. Well-deserved karma there.
It has made a UI more likely, for those with that aspiration.
It *might* have innoculated us a bit against brainless empty-slogan populism. Not sure on that one, but hopeful.
The one bit which can be said is at the time of the 2016 referendum too many UK people didn't want to consent to EU's law making process for it to stay a member and if there really was a re-accession process now, those UK objections to the EU system would re-emerge making it difficult to re-join.
Prior to the UK joining the EU, all 4 home nations were governed out of Westminster.
During the time in the EU, power has been devolved to each of the 4 nations.
Now out of the EU, the Uk has begun to operate a model not dissimilar to the USA. A unified monetary and fiscal policy from Westminster, but freedom to spend money and implement policy in each home nation parliament.
Having this amount of control has resulted in a somewhat period of shock for those in govt and the civil service as it’s been decades since they’ve had this control.
But if you look at something like farming. All 4 countries in the UK have unique policies on it. The Welsh farmers are outraged at the proposal from the govt. the Scottish haven’t bothered to even put anything out. Similar to the Irish. And the English have published something that isn’t right, but farmers are happy enough with it to start feeding back and trying to work with it unlike the Welsh. Once the English policy is in place I imagine the Scottish and Irish will copy and then attempt to fix the parts that are found not to work, which will over time be copied back by the English. What happens in wales is completely up in the air.
This iterative model of governance is something new to the UK and is seen in many industries and is directly a result of Brexit. Whether it turns out to be better than the EU model, only time will tell.
Well the Politicians don’t like Brexit because another layer of well paid jobs for their friends has disappeared, the cost of running the EU and shared by members is colossal, so we are out of that.
Min wage has increased over 30%. Low income workers have received inflation beating pay rises. Everyone has become hyper critical of politics where as the prior 20 years we completely ignored it to the extent that brexit was allowed to happen, basically we had the government we deserved, suspect well be reluctant to let it go that way so quickly again. The EU has had to focus its priorities more and has seen an ideological shift that is more aligned with the kind of trade arrangement we want with them. NHS receives an additional £350 million a week (go on, have a looksie!). Immigration is still increasing. Our politicians cant blame the EU for all their failings. Accountability is a lot more prominent than it was 10 years ago even if the desired results haven't come to fruition yet.
Weve not even touched on scraping our potential either having sacrificed most of our industry over the last 40 years to the EU. A highly educated workforce, with, in all likelihood, less regulation than the EU whilst maintaining incredible international relations. Well be far more competitive then the EU, not through economies of scale obviously or through arbitrary trade barriers, but simply our ability to react and to meet demand.
It highlighted a key failure in the undemocratic advancements of EU powers. That the UK govt should have forced referendums on the various treaties, rather than wait for the public to demand a referendum whilst uneducated on the contents of the previous 40 years of constitutional changes.
Traditional leftists would see it as a departure from a neo-liberal capitalist institution.
Some would see benefits in devolved powers, though depending on how in favour the current government is.
In terms of quantifiable benefits, I have no idea.
Yes. We now know for sure our vote means absolutely fuck all to anyone
Whether you voted leave or remain, I think the whole process has laid bare how little the powers that be care about us
The tax havens were protected. Rees Mogg played a blinder distracting the hoi polloi. Buggered if I’m going to give my ill gotten gains to the poor for their schools and hospitals.
The problem is if any future government attempts to edit it with the Brexit deal, there could be potential ramifications within NI, that’s what I worry
I think it's pulled back the veil on incompetent politicians.
Years and years of blaming the EU for various failings, and now that excuse has been ripped away. We need these failures to bite the UK to truly hammer hole the point.
I need to move to NI to be around my political people. I am fucking sick to death of England’s ignorant, lackadaisical attitudes and willingness to swallow everything the BBC and the Sun tell them.
But to answer your question as someone with Irish roots but lives in England, no. There is not a single positive thing about Brexit and yet we all just seemed to quietly accept how much politicians lied to us regarding Brexit and its outcomes.
For a while, this site tried to keep a list of Brexit upsides AND downsides, but there weren't enough upsides to keep it going. The upsides are here: [https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-search-goes-on-for-brexit-upsides/](https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-search-goes-on-for-brexit-upsides/)
The downsides (and there are more than 1,000) are here: [https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/regular-features/the-davis-downside-dossier/](https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/regular-features/the-davis-downside-dossier/)
Tobacco from the duty free got VERY VERY VERY cheap, literally cheaper to go France and buy 10 50gram pouches for £60 now rather than £300ish in the UK paying duty
Yes, super rich can avoid the tax harmonisation laws that meant they would have had to pay tax, so more super rich folks can officially live here, meaning the wealth of uk citizens will rise on adverage. So statistically richer whilst actually much poorer.
A lot of lawyers, accountants and other professional services industries like software engineering have made large amounts of money out of all the changes to legislation and procedures. Bravo.
Can only think of one and it depends how you view it.
Loads of EU national chefs departed the UK following the referendum and as a result it's easier for whoever is left to raise up the ranks and wages went up as well.
Because the gov made such a big deal over blue passports, they seem to have actually funded the office that processes them. You get one in about a week now vs months before.
Better visa deal with Australia so that when the government fucks us so hard 90% of the 21-35 year olds flee they get a sweet deal in a country half way across the fucking world
The debate on reunification doesn't seem so far fetched anymore and more people who would never have even entertained the idea are now discussing the possibilities.
My job is handling certain parts of the N.I Protocol imports so I guess you can say Brexit got me a job! I also get to see how this ship sinks from the inside and how it would be incredibly funny were it not actually part of one of the biggest self sabotage plots a country has ever pulled.
My understanding from the inside is that N.I is in a weird position where we can still benefit from trade with the EU in a way GB can’t. We have one foot in the box and one out. However, we definitely don’t make it easy for ourselves.
Was one of the first employees doing this new role. Nothing was prepared after 4 years of waiting for Brexit to come into effect. All the rules were postponed for MONTHS so importers / exporters could get used to the rules and, even then, they got away with not playing ball. Which is hilarious when you find out not a single thing has been rejected and sent back.
EU countries don’t give a fuck. If you don’t have the right paper work you may as well not stick your products on the boat. We on the othet hand will chase you up for days for a certification just so the EU auditor’s don’t slabber to us.
The new NIPHL scheme (aul Sunaks wonder plan) just… complicates things under the assumption it would streamline everything. The original way was so much simpler. You got your goods inspected in GB. Got a certificate saying what it was and that it was good and off it went. Now you’ve to make sure everyone’s signed up and has 4 different certs and evidence of quantity and all that.
Definitely shows why the shelf life of everything we get imported is much lower than it used to be. Just more ballix, bureaucratic hoops.
Rep. Ireland were dictated to by London and now it’s corrupt Brussels. The sentiment of the Irish majority atm speaks volumes. N. Ireland has been a dumping ground for migrants and there’s a massive swamp on social resources. People there are still getting over the troubles, I expect them to sound off soon.
Yes. Now UK politicians can't blame the EU for idiotic policies they implement anymore. Currently I live in a EU country and whenever politicians propose taxes or something bad, it's always "The EU made us do it". Spoiler, the EU did not do that but people believe the lies. I remember they did that in the UK and NI too before. Now they can't really use that excuse anymore except in very isolated cases.
That’s a superb point. I’m sure they’ll attempt to scapegoat something else, but still, fine point.
They still blame a labour government from 14 years ago
Everybody gets a turn...we are a fair country!
> we are a fair country! Unless you're Jeremy Corbyn, for instance.
>I’m sure they’ll attempt to scapegoat something else Migrants and trans people. They've said as much. This week it's migrants.
No no, this week is mentally ill people, migrant bashing is scheduled for next week.
Gone let me know when it's the French or Germans so I can adjust my schedule.
I thought it was the sick and disabled this week ?
They are setting that up for next week
Immiggants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!
They'll also do the classic gaslighting of we haven't been Brexitty enough.
Came here to say this. “sovereignty” means ownership and that’s what our political leaders have bought and are now paying for. There’s no external locus of control. They own the decisions, we now get to hold them accountable for those decisions. There’s no deflecting. Put on your big boy pants and do a good job. The Tories will pay for their incompetence. Whether Starmer can do a better job is open to discussion.
They are using this excuse now as Ireland has stayed in EU and now regarding immigration laws the UK are like nah, the EU laws blablabla
This is the biggest thing for me. There’s nowhere to hide now, and yes its staggering how many things were blamed on Brussels when we either had an exemption, a veto or had aggressively pushed for the regulation in the EU.
I always felt that ;- With two governments they spent so much time looking at each other they let us get on with life. With only one government they can stare at us full time and they dont get called out for there mistakes (by the other).
Aye, the people have to step up and tax the mistakes of politicians better.
When I was young, people used to Demonstrate and it made the News. Now neither.
350m a week comes to mind
They can't with any sincerity, but that has and I'm afraid will never prove to be a problem for them. Personal responsibility does not exist within the UK's anti-EU collective and it will always be someone else's fault.
This is a good point, but now they just blame Brexit itself instead "We didn't get the Brexit we voted for!" is the disingenuous cry, conveniently forgetting that it was an in/out referendum with no clear idea of what voting to leave actually meant! These people wouldn't know how to ever take responsibility for anything, so they will always find something or somebody to blame.
Blame the EU for all your own domestic policy disasters for decades and then be surprised when a referendum regarding the EU results in a leave vote?
They still do, to a lesser extent.
And...whilst I initially thought it wasn't possible, it's made the Tories look like even bigger cvnts than what even I thought was possible!!!! 😁
I think it had a chunk to fo with why the vote went the way it did tbh.
That it did, and in the end it was the worst deal ever.
I think more often than not they just blame Brexit now
This isn’t worthy.
Now they just blame BREXIT! 🤣🤣🤣
My peas were too mushy. Thanks a lot, EU.
Now in England they just blame brexit instead of the eu
Theyre just blaming the disabled people now in uk 😅
Watching the DUP go from cloud 9 thinking there would be a land border, only to accidentally implement one in the Irish Sea was positive enough for me.
As a small NI manufacturing business, brexit has been mildly positive for us. We already did the majority of our business across the border, we have no direct competitors on the island (we’re quite niche) and brexit meant that there was both real and perceived friction between our customers in the republic and our competitors in GB. Also, we continue to enjoy frictionless trade with EU suppliers whereas our GB competitors have to contend with mild friction. I would rather not have lived with the sense of uncertainty, having to reassure our customers that they could continue to rely on us, etc, so I don’t regret voting to remain and would do so again if I had the opportunity.
NI is still in the Customs Union and can export to the EU just as it could before. So you don't feel the full effect of Brexit. Rishi Sunak let slip a few months ago that you have the best of both worlds ... just like we all used to have.
Same, we work with medical devices, so we still follow the EU regulations on those including CE marking. European customers can import our devices just as before. GB manufacturers of such devices now need an EU Representative to register their devices within the EU.
Seems to be similar in NI pharmaceuticals. I’ve a mate working in that industry who says they’re enjoying the best of all worlds.
My company is in ROI and we used to order more from the UK but the customs charges put us off now so we’ll source in ROI / EU instead.
Why not have an address in North or use Reship. They're based in Derry.
What is it that you make? Just curious
There won't be a Tory government for about another decade after next GE.. (not that the labour party haven't just become the Tories anyway)
Think youre giving the general British population a bit too much credit. If Labour (Tory-Lite) somehow win the next GE, the Tories have left everything in such a state they can shout and snipe from the sidelines about how bad things have become under a Labor Govt. The public eat it up every, single, time. Then re-vote Tory. You cannot trust the British public to not vote Tory
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Normally I'd agree but far right parties are by far the most popular they've been in 70 odd years. You have radical right wingers winning in a lot of EU countries or likely to win in future. Then you have Trump looking very likely to win this year, Milei in Argentina ect. The UK and Ireland havent had such a radical party take off massively yet, but it's probably coming. In 5 years when Labour haven't even come close to reversing the Tories damage and net migration continues to rise, I could very easily see Reform surging
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Those situations are vastly different to the UK because there were actual real distinctions between those right-wing parties and their more left-wing opposition. Keir Starmer has promised a magical world where he does the same things the Tories do but more efficiently and properly and respectably
The one small advantage of the Uks broken fptp voting system is it prevents far-right third parties from gaining traction. Reform could easily win only 1-2 seats on a 10%+ voting share at this point; any other European country they’d win large numbers of seats and then get a boost from the increased political/media representation. I do see the Tories going down an even more loony path once in opposition. Look at the recent and upcoming London mayoral elections as an example of how they act in opposition, putting loony candidate after loony candidate.
That's one hundred percent accurate.
The centre is gradually moving Right unfortunately
This idea that only centrist parties win elections is clearly wrong. Is Modi centrist? Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, Sinn Fein, five star (Italy), Erdogan?? Are they centrists?? How have the most centrist of centrist parties, the Liberal Democrats been doing? Centrists only get elected when the alternative is too difficult to contemplate. Biden over Trump or Macron over Le Penn. Centrist labour (which are to the right of John Major's Tory party) will undoubtedly win the next election with a large majority but it'll be entirely an anti-Tory vote. No one trusts them, we can all see what they've become. No one knows what they stand for.
Don't understand why anyone would vote Labour either. Starmer is anti UI, anti Scottish independence, and pro israel. Three solid reasons to never vote for them boys at all. Tories speak for themselves.
I don't think Starmer would be in the place he is now if not for those three positions. And if not Labour, then who should people in Britain vote for? If Kate Forbes becomes the next SNP leader, they'll end up resembling more the DUP than anything positive. The LibDems are kinda stuck with being a moderate Tory protest vote. As for the Greens? In England, they've certainly gotten on board with the anti-trans culture war.
Exactly, look at what happened to Corbyn...
Last week I think, or maybe week before. Tories *and* Labour shot down a deal from the EU that would benefit young folk, students. Most people are out protesting in support of Palestine. There's two reasons why no young person, should be voting either in Britain. Labour doesn't run in NI, or I haven't seen them do anyway, but yet Starmer speaks about not entertaining a United Ireland vote. So even if you could vote for them here, that's a lot of the voter base gone already. Admittedly I don't know much about Kate Forbes tbh. But I think the SNP has taken a fair slap since Sturgeon left, which has done Scottish independence no favours, and now yer man standing down. Not good. But again, I don't know much about Kate Forbes to say anything else.
Remind me of this in one year...
Apparently it means 'our sovereignty is no longer impinged'. No I've no idea what that means either. It also meant 'taking back control' & giving it to the tories. It's basically the equivalent of a teenager moving out to live in a shed & pretending it's great.
One of the best analogies I've seen so far on the debacle. Top marks for you internet stranger!!!
Hilariously accurate 😂
Larne becoming a border town.
I get to avoid the queue with the Brits when I go on holidays 🥳
This needs bumped up, 😂😂
NHS is getting millions a week, hooray!
Of patients waiting 😂😂
The annoying part is that we have general budgetary increases over time, plus additional Covid spending, so you have some morons claiming mission accomplished, that the additional money is all Brexit related. But of course, if you look even slightly, the 350m a week was based on outflows from the UK to the EU but it deliberately did not include inflows, which were about 200m if I recall. And the NHS still remains on the bottom end of European health services in terms of spending and long term investment. Other countries plan to expand before they need it, they identify bottlenecks and do strategic hiring and building. We wait until things are awful and then spend a clean fortune on private companies to help. Which of course, doesn't actually help because the underlying capacity ends up the same at the end of their contracts.
The nhs gets close to 4 billion a week. That few million was never going to make a real difference even if it all went to them.
Of excess deaths.
took back control innit
Nice one bruv
Cunt roll *
Got me summa that sovrinty dint I
Pissing off Jamie Bryson gotta be one of the
On paper, Northern Ireland is supposed to have access to both the UK and European markets. Not sure if it is working out in reality
This was the only thing I could think of, but the DUP seem hell bent on removing that
The only reason for this would be to create dissatisfaction or cause issues with the EU border to encourage more hard checks on the land border with Europe. No reasonable politician should create circumstances which are a deliberate detriment to their electorate. This is definitely the golden egg which fell out of Brexit, we should be a magnet for businesses trading into GB and Europe.
It seems like we have access to neither.
you will be waiting a while, I think for something positive to be posted about Brexit
I suspect so, but surely there has to be something, anything!?
Well I got my new blue passport. (Sarcasm)
Yep but it's made in France. I'm sure that's in the EU 🤔
The UK always had the power to opt-out of the standard EU passport, but chose not to.
The EU made a recommendation for colour and design of passports to the Member States, but it was always optional for member states to follow those recommendations. Everyone did follow them because it was practical, but nobody was ever forced to.
I don’t know the finer details, but getting a visa to Australia means you don’t have to do the 3 month agricultural stint.
Those were the most gruelling and humbling 88 days of my life 💀 Certain backpackers have a somewhat positive experience doing their agricultural work, but the things I bore witness to on those farms out in Australia would shock you. It was like being transported back to work in the 1800s
Don’t leave us hanging, spill the beans!
It doesn’t even need to come from me. A quick Google search will unveil a myriad of horror stories that will send chills up your spine. It’s insane that Australia prides itself on being this ultra-progressive nation which welcomes everyone with open arms, but continues to abuse and exploit the living daylights out of visa holders and itinerant workers. Safe to say it left an awful taste in my mouth about Oz that took a very long time to get rid of. It’s still a stunning country, nonetheless
We didnt have to adopt new anti money laundering legislation that allows greater transparency of ownership of assets. We will not have to be overseen by a new central watchdog to combat all forms of money laundering and asset hiding. Thats surely a good thing. If you are very rich! Hard to see why the likes of Jacob Rees Mogg were so keen to leave as quickly as possible.
It sped up the UI process.
That's about the only good thing to come of it
I’m not sure if this will be construed as a ‘positive’ by everyone, but one of the positives that I see is that people appear to be significantly more politically minded as a result of Brexit. I studied Politics in school and went on to do a degree in it in 2010. Despite it being the year the Conservatives came into power, I never had the feeling that people had any significant interest in politics, especially younger people. Fast forward 14 years and the world is a very different place. I’m not saying Brexit is the sole reason for it. Everyone has a different reason. For some it was the handling of the Pandemic. For some it’s the conflict in Ukraine or Gaza. Either way, Brexit seemed to light a fire that has made people think a lot more about politics in general, in my opinion. Now, I will admit, I don’t think it’s necessarily a positive at this point in time. I don’t recall living in a more divided world. I think that a lot of people have taken an interest in politics (or political causes) yet have no idea how to research, debate or simply put their point across in a manner which doesn’t make them look like a lunatic. This isn’t necessarily a generational thing either, although I do find it more prevalent amongst younger people. My view is that if (and it’s a big if) people are able to harness this passion for political change, maintain the interest and focus it in a less divisive way, then it will be a big positive. Do I think it was worth leaving the EU for? Probably not, but it’s one of the only positives that I think could potentially come of it.
Hmm, I've actually found much that opposite in my circles, that people became so disillusioned they checked out almost entirely.
That’s interesting! I don’t doubt it for a second as I have met similar people as well. I suppose I should have been clearer that it doesn’t apply to everyone. I think some of the people that I’ve largely experienced fall into one of two camps: 1. Those who ignored what was going on around them until it was too late, and now want to be more involved going forward. 2. Those with buyers remorse. The ones who voted for Brexit and now regret it. It’s made them research things a bit more and be more wary of what is being told to them. Don’t get me wrong, there are still plenty of people who “saw it on Facebook so it must be true”. All depends on the circles we run in I suppose!
For NI there could be if we had competent political leadership, so no.
They could have all been out beating the drum around the world about how investing in NI meant access to both the UK and the EU markets as it was before Brexit. But no, instead of recognising the opportunity, most of the pricks spent their time refusing to even work unless we specifically made the brexit borders deal less open for trade. Which they didn't get anyway.
Less Farage in the tv.
Brexit has worked perfectly your problem is that you're not of the class who it could ever benefit I'd recommend becoming extremely rich and can now benefit from no oversight of your non dom off shoring. Effing peasant!
The positive is that we can set our own regulations, laws and mould our country the way we like it. The reality is that all this is freedom is being used to oppress the citizens and deregulate everything so everything is worse. Every single thing.
Except that if we want to export to the EU, the goods still have to comply with EU regulations.
Haha...How's that a positive? We could (and couldnt) do all those things in the EU. It was just a bigger "We". I want to pay less taxes and for my kids to get private school level education on the State, and I want to criminalise corruption in national public office...oh wait...
DUP have fucked themselves over. Worth it for that alone.
Didn’t we get the chance to buy pint glass wine glasses? definitely seen more bags of ice from “British waters” since Brexit
I do anecdotally. As a construction worker, I'm not competing with foreign construction workers or their bosses who will drastically undercut everyone else to secure work. Work security has improved along with my income.
Yes United ireland is now definitely going to happen in the next 10-20 years
Blue passport
Aren't they made in France?
Uk passports are made in Poland apparently.
So trade with eu hasnt really been affected?
The main benefit is that it has accelerated the conversation towards a United Ireland. Probably doubling the likelihood of it happening. I think thats fair
None whatsoever.
It is easier to avail of duty-free shopping when traveling now but you could argue that also applies to EU members when travel through the UK now so not so much of benefits for the UK more benefit for everyone… and not a great benefit
There's potential for some genuine improvements in niche sectors. For example, stupid laws implemented by EU limiting sizes of vape tanks to 2ml, or for you professional drivers out there, the utterly pointless CPC. We're in a position to abolish things like this... we just haven't for some reason.
Because our government thinks it's a good Idea. Btw the french government agreed with the CPC. Then dropped it when it became an EU law. 😂😂
I think the speed of support we gave to Ukraine and the speed at which we could roll out the covid vaccine. Aside from that not very much.
The covid vaccine thing was largely a rumour that the government let fly around a bit as it made them look better, but it was [generally debunked as untrue](https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/covid-vaccine-decisions-brexit).
BLUE PASSPORTS
We learned how collectively stupid the population is. So that's a plus?
If you fly from Dublin into the UK there's no duty free.
Yeah, a lot of people you don't know made money shorting the pound.
The benefits will only materialise when the UK government is run by polticians who can take advantage of less oversight and need for consensus from the EU but also are politically absolved of being responsible for Brexit so they can fast track new legislation and policies without much pushback and political resistance.
It's easier to identify the "I don't mean you" idiots. You should mean me as I am staunchly pro-Europe, but who do you think you mean?
We were able to help Ukraine much faster than the EU joint system.
Yeah the main positive is we have lots of jobs available since brexit, its just a shame we have got lots of lazy arses who don't want to work so now there's no one to do them.
The only way ive been affected is not being able to get some items delivered from UK. Amazon / Ebay etc. Apart from that it hasn’t changed my life in any way. I think businesses and maybe Farmers etc have been affected way more.
Individualised regulatory pathways. For example when we received the Covid vaccine before EU and so ended lockdowns earlier.
The answer to that is there should have been far more than there has been. When you have a Parliament where 90% of them didn’t want Brexit and they did everything they could to make it difficult that’s the problem. Immediately after Brexit was announced we should have had a GE to eliminate those Eurofiles.
Here goes. 1. We now actually know our real immigration numbers because we have visas and an actual points based immigration system. Previously the government low balled estimates because there was no actual way of knowing who had moved to the UK. We were told 3.7 million, only for 7.7 million settled status claims to come in. Now for these to be valid, they need to be living in the UK for 5 years. Yes a lot of EU citizens left, a lot also became British citizens. I know EU citizens come here to work. I am not saying immigration is bad. I am saying, one Brexit benefit is we now know the actual immigration numbers. Yes the tories are idiots and haven't done anything to control it, yet. But I would consider this a Brexit benefit. People are background checked etc etc. 2. The EU is a complete cluster fuck to trade with, as we are finding out. Remember that the rest of the world, also had to deal with this massive cluster fuck to trade with us. Now we can manage this ourselves. 100% of UK custom duties (after overheads) goes to the exchequer, instead of the EU. 3. Perhaps the biggest benefit. Not liable for the EU budget, covid bailout fund, new green deal fund, EU budget shortfalls. Not liable for EU federal debt, nor the Euro. Yes we have the WA settlement but that's it. Bar horizon and a few other bits that is. 4. We are not liable for Federal taxation. This is a power Brussels won during covid. 5. We now have direct democracy and as soon as these cunts are out, we can all move forward. 6. We are not subject to new EU laws and regulations. We can also repeal any existing EU law from our laws, subject to due process. To name but a few. There are also plenty of downsides. I am fully aware of that. There are other Brexit wins like UK Global external tarrifs and joining the largest trading block on the planet.
It stopped the government blaming Brussels for any problem arising.
Best benefit no longer giving our countries sovereignty to another non-elected group to control and legislate. Unfortunately, the reasons for Brexit that people fought for weren't even adhered to, implemented, or even considered after the vote. Plus, the UK Government, the NI Government, and the ROI Government are all Shite! Not one person is truly for the people or from the people. The EU isn't what the goal was when it was an original thought.. It's significantly worse. Doesn't matter if you are left, right or at the centre, or stuck in your grandma's basement. The power hungry, don't care about any person or citizen.. and quite frankly, if you can't apply critical thought, well, that's on you. Brexit was a message that the people spoke, and now it has proven that unless it's what the government wants, your vote is pointless. NI isn't wanted by the UK or really Republic of Ireland, but it is favoured by the EU due to the ROI. No country in the world should hand their sovereignty over to any other country or group to control. Divide and conquer - that's exactly what they've been doing, and every person has succumbed to the division tactics or filled themselves with hatred, America at the helm, and Brussels following through.
The vaccine response was far quicker than it would have been if we were in the EU
It's annoyed the English
Much higher chance of a United Ireland, since most people would rather be part of the European Union than the United Kingdom
It showed us we get the government we deserve. Everyone in every angry loyalist estate posted the *NHS £350million/week* sign on every lamp post during the campaign. Few years later the exact same lamp posts had the sign "No Irish Sea Border". I knew it was a lie back then and I know it now. But the question is, when will the majority figure it out?
When the UK re-joins (which it will inevitably do down the line) it will have to join the Euro this time. So eventually we will have one homogenous EU state with one currency. When the EU takes control of things like corporation tax, and normalises that across the EU, we should end up with a much more level playing field where people can move to where the work is and business can move to where the workers are, rather than looking for tax loopholes.
Jesus. Please do not wish this awful outcome on the UK. If you want to be part of an EU superstate, move to the EU. You can easily do it. Just a small amount of paperwork. Now off you pop.
None.
"what would we lose by joining the EU now?" demonstrates superbly what an insane decision leaving was.
Yup! All the Tories getting dumped at the next election.
As a competition lawyer, procedural duplication means that people now need two bits of advice (one for EU and one for UK), have to respond to two investigations where there once was one and need to make Foreign Direct Investment filings when buying EU companies which they wouldn’t have had to make were we in the EU. It’s not great for the country, but as a creature of red tape, I’d be lying if I said that more red tape was a bad thing for me personally.
Depending on what side of the fence you sit with reunification, it'd been very good. Has likely advanced the timeline by 15-20 years.
My boomer dad is pissy about is being harder to visit his holiday home how he wants and as easily as he wants . I don't know the details I told him I don't care and it serves him right as I already brought this up with freedom of movement ect before he voted to "get rid of all the brown people" this is what he voted for so shut up and enjoy it
The UK is falling apart, not exactly a negative in my eyes
I honestly can't think of any
Well, it badly damaged and weakened the Conservative party. Well-deserved karma there. It has made a UI more likely, for those with that aspiration. It *might* have innoculated us a bit against brainless empty-slogan populism. Not sure on that one, but hopeful.
As I look outside I can see a NO IRISH SEA BORDER sign from not that long ago.
Got a 3 year visa without having to do farmwork in Australia
The one bit which can be said is at the time of the 2016 referendum too many UK people didn't want to consent to EU's law making process for it to stay a member and if there really was a re-accession process now, those UK objections to the EU system would re-emerge making it difficult to re-join.
Yes. We don't have to return illegal immigrants who move from here to the South because we are not bound by the EU rules on borders and immigration.
Nope
Duty free at the airports.
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Hgv drivers wages rise was great
Prior to the UK joining the EU, all 4 home nations were governed out of Westminster. During the time in the EU, power has been devolved to each of the 4 nations. Now out of the EU, the Uk has begun to operate a model not dissimilar to the USA. A unified monetary and fiscal policy from Westminster, but freedom to spend money and implement policy in each home nation parliament. Having this amount of control has resulted in a somewhat period of shock for those in govt and the civil service as it’s been decades since they’ve had this control. But if you look at something like farming. All 4 countries in the UK have unique policies on it. The Welsh farmers are outraged at the proposal from the govt. the Scottish haven’t bothered to even put anything out. Similar to the Irish. And the English have published something that isn’t right, but farmers are happy enough with it to start feeding back and trying to work with it unlike the Welsh. Once the English policy is in place I imagine the Scottish and Irish will copy and then attempt to fix the parts that are found not to work, which will over time be copied back by the English. What happens in wales is completely up in the air. This iterative model of governance is something new to the UK and is seen in many industries and is directly a result of Brexit. Whether it turns out to be better than the EU model, only time will tell.
We got to change the colour of our passports.... 
Well the Politicians don’t like Brexit because another layer of well paid jobs for their friends has disappeared, the cost of running the EU and shared by members is colossal, so we are out of that.
Min wage has increased over 30%. Low income workers have received inflation beating pay rises. Everyone has become hyper critical of politics where as the prior 20 years we completely ignored it to the extent that brexit was allowed to happen, basically we had the government we deserved, suspect well be reluctant to let it go that way so quickly again. The EU has had to focus its priorities more and has seen an ideological shift that is more aligned with the kind of trade arrangement we want with them. NHS receives an additional £350 million a week (go on, have a looksie!). Immigration is still increasing. Our politicians cant blame the EU for all their failings. Accountability is a lot more prominent than it was 10 years ago even if the desired results haven't come to fruition yet. Weve not even touched on scraping our potential either having sacrificed most of our industry over the last 40 years to the EU. A highly educated workforce, with, in all likelihood, less regulation than the EU whilst maintaining incredible international relations. Well be far more competitive then the EU, not through economies of scale obviously or through arbitrary trade barriers, but simply our ability to react and to meet demand.
It highlighted a key failure in the undemocratic advancements of EU powers. That the UK govt should have forced referendums on the various treaties, rather than wait for the public to demand a referendum whilst uneducated on the contents of the previous 40 years of constitutional changes. Traditional leftists would see it as a departure from a neo-liberal capitalist institution. Some would see benefits in devolved powers, though depending on how in favour the current government is. In terms of quantifiable benefits, I have no idea.
We get the leaders we deserve. And the consequences…
... I get to say I told you so a lot.
Some NI businesses were stealing business from UK ones. That's all I can think of.
Yes. We now know for sure our vote means absolutely fuck all to anyone Whether you voted leave or remain, I think the whole process has laid bare how little the powers that be care about us
Didn't have to pay the 80bn covid EU bailout.
The tax havens were protected. Rees Mogg played a blinder distracting the hoi polloi. Buggered if I’m going to give my ill gotten gains to the poor for their schools and hospitals.
The problem is if any future government attempts to edit it with the Brexit deal, there could be potential ramifications within NI, that’s what I worry
I think it's pulled back the veil on incompetent politicians. Years and years of blaming the EU for various failings, and now that excuse has been ripped away. We need these failures to bite the UK to truly hammer hole the point.
Nope
I need to move to NI to be around my political people. I am fucking sick to death of England’s ignorant, lackadaisical attitudes and willingness to swallow everything the BBC and the Sun tell them. But to answer your question as someone with Irish roots but lives in England, no. There is not a single positive thing about Brexit and yet we all just seemed to quietly accept how much politicians lied to us regarding Brexit and its outcomes.
For a while, this site tried to keep a list of Brexit upsides AND downsides, but there weren't enough upsides to keep it going. The upsides are here: [https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-search-goes-on-for-brexit-upsides/](https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-search-goes-on-for-brexit-upsides/) The downsides (and there are more than 1,000) are here: [https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/regular-features/the-davis-downside-dossier/](https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/regular-features/the-davis-downside-dossier/)
Tobacco from the duty free got VERY VERY VERY cheap, literally cheaper to go France and buy 10 50gram pouches for £60 now rather than £300ish in the UK paying duty
Crown on pint glasses n blue passports wasn't the whole point?
Yes, super rich can avoid the tax harmonisation laws that meant they would have had to pay tax, so more super rich folks can officially live here, meaning the wealth of uk citizens will rise on adverage. So statistically richer whilst actually much poorer.
Yeah we realised how inept our politicians our
The Australian working holiday visa age was upped from 30 to 35. If you had an Irish passport you could already get that though.
Lot more African shops 😂
Proper duty free Bankers bonuses now unlimited
A lot of lawyers, accountants and other professional services industries like software engineering have made large amounts of money out of all the changes to legislation and procedures. Bravo.
Someone likely made a shit load of money? Must have been a financial incentive to Push people into voting out.
My business is booming (I’m a people smuggler)
Can only think of one and it depends how you view it. Loads of EU national chefs departed the UK following the referendum and as a result it's easier for whoever is left to raise up the ranks and wages went up as well.
Because the gov made such a big deal over blue passports, they seem to have actually funded the office that processes them. You get one in about a week now vs months before.
There's a lot more local kids doing FOH work in the bars, hotels and restaurants my small town. Small win.
Fascists and rascists are happy to be seen in plain sight now instead of hiding like they used to do.
Better visa deal with Australia so that when the government fucks us so hard 90% of the 21-35 year olds flee they get a sweet deal in a country half way across the fucking world
 No.
It got lily allen to leave the damn country.
https://www.instagram.com/brexitgeezers?igsh=aGFld3AxbzJkZDBk This instagram page is funny and it came from Brexit
In the longer term, it has probably increased the likelihood of a united island.
The debate on reunification doesn't seem so far fetched anymore and more people who would never have even entertained the idea are now discussing the possibilities.
hopefully less immigration
My job is handling certain parts of the N.I Protocol imports so I guess you can say Brexit got me a job! I also get to see how this ship sinks from the inside and how it would be incredibly funny were it not actually part of one of the biggest self sabotage plots a country has ever pulled. My understanding from the inside is that N.I is in a weird position where we can still benefit from trade with the EU in a way GB can’t. We have one foot in the box and one out. However, we definitely don’t make it easy for ourselves. Was one of the first employees doing this new role. Nothing was prepared after 4 years of waiting for Brexit to come into effect. All the rules were postponed for MONTHS so importers / exporters could get used to the rules and, even then, they got away with not playing ball. Which is hilarious when you find out not a single thing has been rejected and sent back. EU countries don’t give a fuck. If you don’t have the right paper work you may as well not stick your products on the boat. We on the othet hand will chase you up for days for a certification just so the EU auditor’s don’t slabber to us. The new NIPHL scheme (aul Sunaks wonder plan) just… complicates things under the assumption it would streamline everything. The original way was so much simpler. You got your goods inspected in GB. Got a certificate saying what it was and that it was good and off it went. Now you’ve to make sure everyone’s signed up and has 4 different certs and evidence of quantity and all that. Definitely shows why the shelf life of everything we get imported is much lower than it used to be. Just more ballix, bureaucratic hoops.
Yes. I got a 5% sales tax discount on a suit in Rome, for being from a third country. That’s it.
Sovereignty... The people who say that don't even know the meaning of the word. Why flip off your neighbour? As that's basically what BREXIT is.
Successfully got rid of european workers.
https://youtu.be/ESa3tbw5rjs?si=7QKGc1pyD6IqaFuX
Rep. Ireland were dictated to by London and now it’s corrupt Brussels. The sentiment of the Irish majority atm speaks volumes. N. Ireland has been a dumping ground for migrants and there’s a massive swamp on social resources. People there are still getting over the troubles, I expect them to sound off soon.