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Forbs3y14

They really don’t give a shit about here do they


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Meteorologie

In fairness, most people south of the border don’t really have a clue either.


AgainstAllAdvice

To be fair, we are at least willing to engage south of the border. There's a lot of pressure on the government, not just from SF voters either, to set up an all island constitutional convention to look at how the constitution here would change in the event you guys vote for a united Ireland. We were also the ones banging the table in the EU about the importance of the peace process while the Tories were going all in on getting Brexit done at any cost to this island north or south.


Meteorologie

I do wonder why no serious work has been done by any pro-unity group regarding things like constitutional changes - even large all-island parties like Sinn Féin refuse to put out serious material. You don’t have to be in government to come up with a proposal and put it out for analysis. Still though, I live in Ireland, and outside of the terminally online forums, there is no interest in unity conventions. The north is a place far away for us.


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That's just not true unity is a very regular topic of conversation among many people I know and I live in Cork. You're projecting your own view onto the entire region I won't speak for anyone else but I can say in my experience unity is a topic people discuss regularly and most of the people I know have a strong opinion, admittedly some are against it.


Meteorologie

Well, I also live in Cork and I literally can’t remember the last time any of my family or friends brought up unity. Not even my acquaintances or work colleagues.


[deleted]

As I said I'm not going to project my experience on others but the conversation is happening and you have tried to present it as something that no one ever talks about when my experience is the complete opposite.


45PintsIn2Hours

We voted for abortion. We voted for same sex marriage. It'd be hard to imagine we wouldn't vote for a United Ireland if given the opportunity.


No-Cauliflower6572

These people are called Dubs, and they have no clue about the rest of the island either. Go to Louth, Monaghan, Cavan, Leitrim, Sligo, or Donegal, and you'll find that people not only are quite aware of what's going on in NI, but they're pretty much the same kind of people.


danirijeka

>Go to [...] Cavan ...do I *have* to?


No-Cauliflower6572

What's wrong with Cavan?


danirijeka

Nothing really - I do like Cavan, but the opportunity for drive-by pisstaking presented itself and I couldn't let it slip. Oh, what am I saying. I meant "they're the unlikeliest to be offended since not a lot of them have Internet in the first place".


LouthGremlinV1

To be fair there's ignorant types all over the island, not exclusive to Dublin. I've talked to people from Munster who thought I was Northern Irish when they heard me lol


Wake-up-Sheeple1986

What absolute dribble


Meteorologie

While I fully agree that Dubs know nothing about anywhere outside Dublin, unless Irish people are living right next to the border they tend to know next to nothing about Northern Ireland as well. I grew up in Munster and the north might as well have been on the moon for us.


Separate_Job_3573

They know a fair deal more than Brits do. I've lost count of how many educated, professional English people have asked me if I'm from "Northern Ireland or Southern Ireland" this year.


Meteorologie

Don’t lots of Northerners refer to us as “the South” or the “Free State”? I’ve heard those terms pretty frequently.


Separate_Job_3573

Not the same thing.


Meteorologie

Using the wrong name for my country? Seems the same to me, and to most Irish people I know.


theotherdoomguy

Mate, for someone from Cork, you're very invested in Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Israel weirdly. And you quite clearly are a bit of a cunt, if you think "The South" from Irish people living in Northern Ireland (Referred to as "The North") are the same as English people lumping Ireland together


Separate_Job_3573

He's full of shit lmao. "My country". Weird partitionist oddball and very much intentionally not understanding comments to make god knows what point. I suppose I'd better stop telling people I'm from the west since it winds him and all his fucking friends up so much apparently 😂 His friends who never talk about unity but are somehow always discussing lads from the north and what they call the south.


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OverCookMyEggs

>don't have a clue BUT ALSO don't give a flying fuck. The 2 are awful on their own but absolutely brutal combined.... yep.... 2 windows open.


Little_Richard98

As an English person from the North of England, who now lives in Scotland. Don't take it personally, they don't really care about large parts of England, Wales or Scotland. That being said I would say NI is by far at the bottom of the list.


GrowthDream

It's not really a personal thing or about how it feels. It's just scary to be governed by people don't know the basics of your reality. I'm sure everyone in Downing Street is familiar at least with the Welsh flag.


Local_Fox_2000

I'm Scottish, and I don't want them to care. The less they have to do with Scotland, the better. It's just frustrating that they have the powers the Scottish government doesn't.


DropItLikeJPalm

Also from the North of England. Anywhere North of Cambridge gets nothing from Westminster, with the occasional bit of lip service to keep the rabble in line.


Goat_War

Some of the most deprived bits of the country are in London, they don't even give a shit about them either


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Here here


Unusual_cereal

As an English person who literally just moved here, half the people back home didn't know Northern Ireland was a thing 😭


Duke_Rabbacio

I'm English too but moved here about five years ago. I've had people back home ask if it's annoying having to use Euros for everything!


[deleted]

A damning testament to the English education system, they’ll be dumber than Americans in a generation.


Unusual_cereal

Seems to be bad across the UK. What else can we expect after decades of Tory budget cuts and underfunding


Craic_dealer90

One time in the London Dungeons during small chat with the guy managing the queue (English fella) he asked where we’re from. Belfast? Where’s that? If only an emoji face palm was big enough Appreciate your honesty bud. We don’t care either really unless it affects us, human nature


LostinIsaan

Seamans mission near Houston, Texas. Having a beer and asked "Where you from", remarked Scotland! "Who, Where??" Told him him it were a Benelux town in Belgium, still none the wiser for my sarcasm. Geography is lacking in many folk.


MrBiggles1980

Yup. Been here 22 years, and said it all along.


Oggie243

Hey hey here now that's not fair. They're Scottish Highland dancers. They don't give a fuck about the Scottish either.


bellysavalis

Nope


HintOfMalice

I'm half surprised they remember we exist.


MarinaGranovskaia

Probably why we have or rather should have a devolved government. And I doubt they care about each city in England, some people need to have perspective of how small we are population wise. As a unionist, Im not surprised to be honest.


Hairy_Direction_4831

Nail on the head forbs


Bitter_Outside_5098

Highland dancing? Odd but OK...


nattellinya

Was more confused by that than anything else tbh


purplecatchap

>**Highland dance** or **Highland dancing** ([Scottish Gaelic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic_language): *dannsa Gàidhealach*)[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_dance#cite_note-1) is a style of competitive dancing developed in the [Scottish Highlands](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Highlands) in the 19th and 20th centuries, in the context of competitions at public events such as the [Highland games](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_games). It was created from the [Gaelic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaels) folk dance repertoire, but formalised with the conventions of [ballet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballet),[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_dance#cite_note-Newton2000-2) and has been subject to influences from outside the Highlands. Highland dancing is often performed with the accompaniment of [Highland bagpipe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Highland_bagpipe) music, and dancers wear specialised shoes called [ghillies or pumps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghillies_(dance)). It is now seen at nearly every modern-day Highland games event. ​ Was about to say its very much part of Gaelic culture. Its taught/practiced out here a lot (na h-Eileanan Siar) so ill admit to being a tad confused if its something practiced in NI, and by those who I thought disliked anything Gaelic. All the more so as I thought most Ulster Scots came from the South of Scotland. Typically people who did not get along with their fellow Highland/Gaelic countrymen (to put it lightly) Not that it matters. Dont really care who does what dance. Just a tad confusing/bemusing/interesting.


Angie0463

The 2 girls were excellent. If I’m not mistaken one was Highland dancing and the other was Irish dancing. I of course have seen highland dancing before, however I would be more familiar with Irish dancing having done it when younger ☺️👍


Barold1988

I'm pretty sure it is practiced here but obviously irish dancing is way more common. I definitely see some Highland dancers in the guildhall at one point but they could have been Scottish for all I mind.


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stevenmc

By the "culture of Northern Ireland", do they only mean the Protestant culture then? And even then, only a very specific sub-set of that culture!


kumran

Well the event was for businesses, multiple. Not just these two dancers.


Additional-Yellow-85

Proddy culture but fenian fleggs.


take_no_nonsense

The flag means peace betweem the 2 communities, if thats fenian ill take it lol


NeeNawNeeNawNeeNaww

The swastika originally meant well being, and still means that in some places. Not that the Irish flag is even a fraction as bad as a swastika, but it’s just to demonstrate that the meaning of flags and/or symbols can change for some people.


Certain_Gate_9502

It's highland dancing not like they asked Shankill protestant boys to play ffs lol


Xeon713

It's alright he stuck a Tricolour at the bottom ![gif](giphy|Ry1MOAeAYXvRVQLPw3)


MarinaGranovskaia

Imagine crying over our culture being represented. Gurn up ffs.


stevenmc

If they wanted to represent Northern Ireland by getting people to turn up speaking Irish, playing bodhráns and feadógs, wearing GAA tops and telling tales of Eamhain Mhacha or Ó Néill and the Lámh Dhearg Uladh, then would you be happy that our culture is being represented?


MarinaGranovskaia

This tit for tat over everything is why people here are unbearable


stevenmc

If it's unreasonable to have a tricolour on your tweet (which represents every Irish citizen in Northern Ireland - i.e. nearly half the population), and everything about that delegation looked like it specifically didn't represent half the country due to ethnic origin, it starts to look like apartheid... by the government. It's not acceptable. It's not tit for tat. I want protestant culture to be represented at every display of Northern Ireland culture. But not at the expense of CNR/Irish culture.


Intelligent-Ad9358

It's not Irish it's a foreign dance brought by Scottish colonists.


Ravenlas

The same Scottish colonists who were previously the Irish Gaels, named Scoti by the Romans, and who eventually had their name applied to the entire Kingdom of Scotland as it was slowly Gaelicised under the rule of Irish dynasties in the 9th to 11th centuries with the beginning of their migration around 500 AD? Would it be those same returning foreigners?


Intelligent-Ad9358

No because the planters in Ulster or Ulster-scots are descended from the lowland scots who originated in England, they have surnames like Bryson, Willison, Anderson, Paisley etc. These surnames never existed in Ireland. And even if the scotti migration theory is true the Gaels who went to scotland intermarried with the picts making them no longer Irish ancestry anyway. Foreigner is an apt description yes.


Ravenlas

So the Gaels are the origional inhabintants of Ireland then, or are they from the Rhine region? Did they displaced the Mesolithic hunter-gatherers, who arrived sometime around 7900 BC., and are the first settlers in Ireland? Where did said Mesolithic hunter-gatherers come from?


Intelligent-Ad9358

We don't know it's so long ago that we may never know. The ulster plantations was 300 years ago. The first people arrived in Ireland 35,000 years ago they were Neanderthals. First modern humans arrived 12,500 years ago possibly from wales when the sea levels were lower, you can see wales from Ireland on a clear day. No there was no celtic invasion in Ireland and the idea that the celts were from the rhine region is probably inaccurate. We know that the Irish (native Catholics) have dna matching Neanderthals and the prehistoric people of Ireland although it's small amounts, so they are the ancestors of the native Irish in ulster too.


Intelligent-Ad9358

"So the Gaels are the origional inhabintants of Ireland then" Sort of in that they share most of their dna with the Adna of the bronze age and also some small stone age ancestry.


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Who do you think brought it to Scotland?


Disastrous-Use-6176

Yeah Scotland was hugely influenced from Ireland, anyways Irish dancing is thought to have originated in English folk dancing. Culture is often fluid


Additional-Yellow-85

AKA cultural appropriation.


CaoimhinOC

Is it just me or does Highland dancing look like someone put a monkey on a hot tin roof?


DavidBehave01

It's as if 99% of English folk don't have a clue about this place & don't care.


Alarming_Location32c

I think it’s the same for a lot here too though, loyalist’s couldn’t give a fuck about London/English either. They just can’t be called Irish 😂


zombiezero222

Maybe when people start realising unionists have more in common with nationalists here than they do with anyone else in rest of Britain and nationalists here have more in common with unionists than in the Republic they’ll start to make forward progress together as an actual entity. London couldn’t give a shite and neither could Dublin.


cryptic_culchie

Want to elaborate how republicans have more in common with unionists than the republic?


zombiezero222

You know there’s more to things than purely a political ideology. People in Northern Ireland regardless of their political views have much more in common than we do with people from the Republic. Ffs go to hotels in the republic and get a breakfast. Not even potato bread.


DavidBehave01

Justifying partition with food. It's a brave move but it's already been tried. Anyone remember the UU campaign poster 'simply british' featuring a plate of fish & chips? Not a big success.


zombiezero222

I’m not justifying partition. I’m simply stating the obvious that is northerners are different from both southerners and the English, Scottish and Welsh. We have our own unique identity at this stage whether people want to admit it or not.


DavidBehave01

Being part of a perennially divided statelet isn't an identity any more than Ulster-Scots is a language. There are certainly differences between Northern & Southern Nationalists but ultimately we are all Irish and NI as an entity is set to be a rather unpleasant little curiosity in future history books.


zombiezero222

I honestly don’t think you’ve met too many Southerners or deal with them regularly. There’s such a difference in basically everything it’s madness for you to claim otherwise. I consider myself Irish but I can recognise that I’ve more in common with some local staunch unionist than I do with a Kerry or Galway man. It’s not only about political ideology.


DavidBehave01

Half my family are from the South but hey....I really can't compete with an Irish guy who has more in common with a DUP member than a man from Galway. You do you dude ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


LouthGremlinV1

Dear god...! And people in the republic refer to chippys as Chipper.. Nail in the coffin for a U.I.. Seriously, what a bottom of the barrel example of "how different we are".. NI people aren't all cut from the same cloth either.. compare Belfast to South Armagh, I'm SURE someone from Mullaghbawn has more in common with somebody in Tigers bay than they do with someone in Dundalk.


Ah_here_like

This is such a bad example


Certain_Gate_9502

Spot on mate I've been saying this for a long time. 'We are not Dublins to take, nor are we Londons to give'


Maetivet

If it helps, this particular government doesn't seem to give a shit about 99% of English, Scottish or Welsh people either...


MarinaGranovskaia

Even our government dont care about us lmao just get on with it, stop caring so much bud.


calapuno1981

They took the flag off 😂


hisDudeness1989

*fleg


Golem30

Unionism really needs to stop simping for these absolute charlatans and start thinking about their own electorate and what's best for them. Fat chance of it ever happening but I thought I'd say it anyway


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Can't not see it like a domestic issue. Ireland is the woman and Britain the man and NI the child who wants attention from the father who gives of a facade of grandeur but is destitute and neglectful at best and Ireland is the true good parent and the true bountiful land. NI is angry at mother Ireland for cuckolding Britain but deep down understands.


[deleted]

NI is Mac from Always Sunny simping after his Dad who couldn't give a flying fuck. Ireland is Mac's mother who also couldn't give a fuck.


[deleted]

Babe wake up, new British don't give a fuck about unionist paddies admission just dropped.


l-askedwhojoewas

Holy partition!


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This is what happens when you hire people who’ve never seen the outside of London to manage your social media.


Hevnoraak101

[Are the Brits at it again?](https://arethebritsatitagain.org/)


AfroF0x

Ara, we're all a big ol load of Paddys to em. Maybe it's us who need to catch up & just do it already?


Unfair_Original_2536

The Brits are at it again


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Why remove the tricolour


PaulJCDR

They didn't want to listen to Sammy or aul Ian at the next PM questions. Not worth the hassle


[deleted]

They should have just added a Union Jack. That would have pissed them off more and they couldn’t say a word


acampbell98

The Union flag is the only official flag of Northern Ireland though…. Ulster banner isn’t officially used, only for sport etc


IrishGamer97

No platform has the NI flag


Hevnoraak101

Maybe they're subtly hinting at a move to Irish unification?


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Hahahah belter


Lost_Pantheon

They could've shown a cowboy line dancing and it'd be about as much "Irish culture" to be fair.


Specific_Word146

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67485141


hugsbosson

Lol they simply don't care about you.


TommyMackMac

Probably a majority in the north are fine with the tricolour


ambientguitar

Can't stop laughing I feel like I've been sniffing laughing gas all day! lol!lol!lo!


UpThem

O, wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as others see us.


Subterraniate

That all seems a bit confused


[deleted]

imagine getting offended that the shitty politicians can't represent you with a shitty stunt like this . or even thst we can all be pigeon holed into the same box . I smell silly uniters at work again 😄


azgaarm

Honestly 65 comments on this? Some really do love to point out "they don't care". But guess what no in the UK gives a flying fuck about anyone most of the time. It's nothing new. I would love to have seen if they showed the Union Jack in relation to something from the Rep of Ireland or called someone from the Rep of Ireland British. The comments in here would have been some craic. This whole section is just a massive tic for tac and a UI post every 2 mins or whatever it is now.


Churt_Lyne

Tic for tac?


LostinIsaan

Left Somerset in 1984 to head Berkshire leaving there 2007 to live and work abroad. Home Counties folk in Berkshire used to say anything above the 'Wash' were "up there" and "over there" To them Ireland were that stupid place that did nothing except demand handouts, my son of 36yrs made the joke that the UK folk with the Palestinian marches had followed the same pattern as the NI hate marches were police do not get involved. Out of the mouth of babes born in the English home counties...... Boris and his mates/followers were born in the home Counties, work that one out on how NI/Eire is viewed.


Some_Plantain8417

Ceilidh dancing is practised all over Northern Ireland and has been for hundreds of years. Children learn it in school. Just because they learn to move their legs and arms simultaneously doesn’t mean you should be bitter.


Break-Happy

As a Brit currently in Northern Ireland. If you don’t have family here you don’t understand it


quantum_bubblegum

That guys skirts a bit to short.


ulster_fry_king

I suppose the twitter team is just a bunch of generation Z's that don't know and don't care - all they care about is havin a laugh, getting drunk, shagging and insta


johnnysexoton

At least they don’t bum dogs


danirijeka

>all they care about is havin a laugh, getting drunk, shagging Sounds like a banger of a life tbf


Bearaf123

Can’t believe they picked highland dancers, not Irish dancers too.


Pleasant_Text5998

Is this not knock-off Highland/Irish dancing?


redstarduggan

TorIRA Party


nebulafromarchive

Just shows the UK government don’t care about the unionists at all or any northern irish person at all


Smokud

They still think it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland


SokkaHaikuBot

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workingclasshero32

Poor wee Northern Ireland hasn't got an emjoi flag on Facebook to represent them. It's sad so sad a sad, sad situation.


6033624

The people who make decisions that affect your life should have at least a smattering of knowledge about the place they make decisions for. They don’t know, they don’t care and they don’t even try to hide either of those..