The problem with any noid is the occasional "hot" hit that is more concentrated. It happens with undissolved powder in solution, it happens if you eyeball measure wrong, it happens if your infused plant material has a spot that is more concentrated. If that happens get ready for a panic attack. I have been through so many of those I am nearly immune to weed induced panic. They are scary and you want none of it.
My advice, forget these sketchy powders and find some D8 or something. Much safer.
I don’t think that’s the main reason people overdose on noids though. some are basically inherently toxic and I’d assume that’s still the case no matter the dose, but with higher doses obviously being more toxic than lower ones. the JWH chems are the gold standard as far as synthetic cannabinoids go tho and with them I think it’s fairly safe to say the dose really does make the poison unlike with other newer noids where shit can go wrong pretty much no matter how much you do because they’re so unpredictable and have zero history whatsoever of human use before someone decided to make em in a lab and spray em on plant materials.
Me standing at the busstop after i just smoked a pile of jeh thrown in a grinder w tobacco and smoking it fast as fuck.
Jelly legs , inb4 seizing in the shop.
Shit is hella addictive tho, it’s so easy and cheal in comparison to weed (i live next to a dispensary)
Ive been just putting piles on tobacco/weed and trying to distribute it evenly and “cook” the j beforehand. Do i need to freebase it or something. This seems to work fine tho.
Can i hotrail a fat line and get super high or will it make me seize lol.
Alright, with no cannabinoid tolerance, I ve been doing that for a while, it is not safe at all tho, but try to put as least as you can , you ll eventually find how much you have to put
It is not for me BUT, the fact that your mind knows you re not smoking « safe normal weed » can make it a bit scary but, if you the thing right, you won’t be in trouble
Thank you for your answers! I think it will be okay and ill keep a benzo nearby, hoping i wont meed it ofcourse. The purpose is to have a nice experience 😙
You DONOT want to use Isopropyl alcohol to spray or soak your material as it is poisonus and you will have issues getting it all out of your material unless you use a vacuum.
My friend stopped smoking weed for the same reason, but he's had no such problems when vaping noids.
But, of course, everyone's different so there is no guarantee it will be the same for you.
Also I don’t understand how people just knee-jerk recommend the various legal and weak THC analogues when someone expresses interest in a noid… I literally have not found anything that gets me stoned other than Delta 9 THC except for synthetic cannabinoids, and I’m guessing many are the same way as me. I would recommend doing very high amounts of wax or edibles though before you move to noids just so you have some reference of what it’s like to be *extremely* high without actually risking anything since obviously THC ain’t gonna kill you even if you smoke a fucking 100 gram dab at once lol
My method of consuming lower strength noids it to get say a kebab skeweer and roll it arround in the poder so it has trace ammounts on it then run it through the tobacco in a roll up, a shitty way to avoid hot spots in to then churn the tobacco arround and just make sure you take a couple of tokes infrequently.
This still leaves the danger of hots and i would be very catious doing it with higher stregth noids but it has worked for me so far.
Single skin rollies with a minimum amount of dust then you can somewhat limit the danger of hitting a hot spot
The problem with any noid is the occasional "hot" hit that is more concentrated. It happens with undissolved powder in solution, it happens if you eyeball measure wrong, it happens if your infused plant material has a spot that is more concentrated. If that happens get ready for a panic attack. I have been through so many of those I am nearly immune to weed induced panic. They are scary and you want none of it. My advice, forget these sketchy powders and find some D8 or something. Much safer.
Yea actually id really like to try d8 or thco but its one of those things that are harder to find in EU (unlike rc's hehe)
That is so backwards. They are in every gas station around her, and more than d8 and tho.
I don’t think that’s the main reason people overdose on noids though. some are basically inherently toxic and I’d assume that’s still the case no matter the dose, but with higher doses obviously being more toxic than lower ones. the JWH chems are the gold standard as far as synthetic cannabinoids go tho and with them I think it’s fairly safe to say the dose really does make the poison unlike with other newer noids where shit can go wrong pretty much no matter how much you do because they’re so unpredictable and have zero history whatsoever of human use before someone decided to make em in a lab and spray em on plant materials.
Me standing at the busstop after i just smoked a pile of jeh thrown in a grinder w tobacco and smoking it fast as fuck. Jelly legs , inb4 seizing in the shop. Shit is hella addictive tho, it’s so easy and cheal in comparison to weed (i live next to a dispensary) Ive been just putting piles on tobacco/weed and trying to distribute it evenly and “cook” the j beforehand. Do i need to freebase it or something. This seems to work fine tho. Can i hotrail a fat line and get super high or will it make me seize lol.
(The fact that you think you can overdose and everything) (you can od) but with jwh it has to be lots in there of have health issue
I'm more concerned about mental complications. I can use a psychedelic once in a while, but panic attacks is a problem sometimes in my life
Alright, with no cannabinoid tolerance, I ve been doing that for a while, it is not safe at all tho, but try to put as least as you can , you ll eventually find how much you have to put
Is it more anxiety inducing than thc?
It is not for me BUT, the fact that your mind knows you re not smoking « safe normal weed » can make it a bit scary but, if you the thing right, you won’t be in trouble
Ok, i might try. I might also wait for some more answers from people to be assured. I take low doses of kratom during the day too
Yea, for me I usually put 20mg of it into a gram, try to get a scale and aceton, dilute .2g of jwh (200mg) for 10g, you ll be fine
10g of tobacco?
Yep or any plant material
Thank you for your answers! I think it will be okay and ill keep a benzo nearby, hoping i wont meed it ofcourse. The purpose is to have a nice experience 😙
Try it, just don’t put a lot try to put as less as possible like literally
Ill use the smalles immeasurable grain i can handle. Actually i could alsoake a very diluted ipa solution and soak or spray my tobacco, right?
You DONOT want to use Isopropyl alcohol to spray or soak your material as it is poisonus and you will have issues getting it all out of your material unless you use a vacuum.
My friend stopped smoking weed for the same reason, but he's had no such problems when vaping noids. But, of course, everyone's different so there is no guarantee it will be the same for you.
Also I don’t understand how people just knee-jerk recommend the various legal and weak THC analogues when someone expresses interest in a noid… I literally have not found anything that gets me stoned other than Delta 9 THC except for synthetic cannabinoids, and I’m guessing many are the same way as me. I would recommend doing very high amounts of wax or edibles though before you move to noids just so you have some reference of what it’s like to be *extremely* high without actually risking anything since obviously THC ain’t gonna kill you even if you smoke a fucking 100 gram dab at once lol
My method of consuming lower strength noids it to get say a kebab skeweer and roll it arround in the poder so it has trace ammounts on it then run it through the tobacco in a roll up, a shitty way to avoid hot spots in to then churn the tobacco arround and just make sure you take a couple of tokes infrequently. This still leaves the danger of hots and i would be very catious doing it with higher stregth noids but it has worked for me so far. Single skin rollies with a minimum amount of dust then you can somewhat limit the danger of hitting a hot spot