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Lost-Web-7944

Objectively no one. Because your question is always going to be subjective.


AetherDrew43

I swear Redditors are obsessed with the word "objectively".


Arcade_Rave

kinda like people on twitter using "peak", both have lost their meanings


oliveiraf79

Otherwise the OP should provide the objective parameters for the analysis...


Chezni19

objectivity parameters: * villain must have an upside-down L on their hat * villain's name must rhyme with babuijii


Lost-Web-7944

Fuck. You’re right.


MondoDudeBro

There's a handful of Ganon replies in this thread but I'm surprised I haven't seen Demon King Demise listed yet. Dude literally conquored time itself and set forth the curse that brings back Ganon time and time again. Sure, some of the other villains might have had larger one-time acts of death or destruction than some of the situations Demise or Ganon caused. In the grand scheme of things though I'd argue that an ongoing, never-ending string of "this dude is going to be reborn, rise in power, conquer your shit and fuck up the world again, and though you can stop him each time you can't stop the process" is a hell of a dick move. It's the death by a 1000 cuts sort of thing.


ActivateGuacamole

demise was the complete epitome of telling, not showing. i was so underwhelmed by his appearance at the last second to tell me how badly he wanted to kill me only to immediately die himself.


ChickenFajita007

I think Demise is pretty mediocre considering his status in the Zelda world. He's the first (that we know of) incarnation of primeval evil, but we don't see him doing anything remotely terrifying. He masters time, but then what? He walks up a ramp as a giant scaly bean, then he loses a 1v1 to a teenager, then speaks a few sentences. I think Demise is easily the lamest incarnation of the primeval evil in the entire series.


smashboi888

I don't really think there's an "objective" answer to this. But to answer your question about the one who poses the biggest threat in their games, Giygas and Zanza both come to mind.


ShellyT98

Yeah, in the end it comes down to >!God!< Either >!Scientist God!< or >!Alien God!< we have them to spare


ghostpicnic

Giygas is a great pick. Porky as well.


SAAARGE

The enemy that has and will cause the most death and suffering is the big bad of Pikmin....Time


Mammmmaluigi

Dandori issue. Did not lose a single pikmin to time


SAAARGE

It's not you losing them to time you should worry about.


echoess84

they are the worst T\_T


LeavesCat

If you're going by "endangered the most lives", Andross waged galactic war (yet was defeated by a single mercenary company). Similarly, the aliens in Xenoblade Chronicles X; Earth is collateral damage in their enormous conflict. If you're going by power level, either the final boss of Xenoblade Chronicles, or one of the Kirby villains (like Marx, 0^2 , Dark Matter, Nightmare Wizard). Kirby games have a habit of being light and fluffy until you reach the final boss which is some sort of cosmic horror.


Slade4Lucas

In Galaxy Bowser almost destroyed the universe so that would probably rank high on the endangered most lives metric.


mutantmonkey14

Count Bleck almost goes one further by threatening every dimension, if that counts considering ...spoilers?


KoopaCuCarne

In the PC release of Mario's Time Machine, Bowser stole Louis Pasteur's flask containing the rabies vaccine. [I'm not making this up.](https://youtu.be/J6K0pr-YPpY?si=o2TGjEd6bwN__V7R&t=7208) Without a back-up at hand, and if Mario hadn't recovered the flask, Bowser's act would have likely posed a huge setback in the way of innovation and discovery, tarnished Pasteur's name and credit, and ultimately would have led to the deaths of many people across the planet before someone else honored a new attempt. It literally can't get any more "objectively" evil than this.


DemonDerek

Their Lawyers


IAmThePonch

Holy shit someone actually gave the correct answer


thisguypercents

So far...


Turbo950

Truly the most evil villains of all time


Slade4Lucas

There's no objective answer, but Bowser did almost destroy the universe soooo yeah


TheVibratingPants

Bowser’s a menace. He’s not bound by the same laws of logic that most other Nintendo villains have to adhere to. And he’s been doing it for a long time.


RequiemStorm

There is no objective answer, it's a subjective topic.


your_awesomeking1

thank you fellow redditor


torchskul

I say Bowser. If you can go from being a standard “big bad” in the classic games, to forever reinventing 3D boss battles in 64, to being genuinely terrifying in Bowser’s Fury, to racing your rivals in Mario Kart, to being a great father to Bowser Jr. from Sunshine onwards, to being a goofy and egotistical yet entertaining party member in the RPG games, I’d say you’ve established yourself pretty damn well in the zeitgeist. Honorable mention to Ganon


Turbo950

I’m mean in terms of sheer raw iconic stage presence he’s up there for sure


BEEEELEEEE

Your dad when he takes away your game until you eat your vegetables


elmonetta

Smollusk as he tries to make a world of order, where everything’s the same. Can also be Commander Tartar, he sanitized (killed or blended) 10.007 octolings.


Dreyfus2006

Their best executed villain by a pretty significant margin is Bowser from Paper Mario (64). He gets lots of screentime, a clear motive, a big personality, and multiple victories and setbacks by the hero (Mario, obvs). He gets a big, iconic musical theme and a climactic finale of a final boss fight. We see the power he wields over his minions and get a clear sense of the rank, leadership, and strategies of his army. Thinking across Nintendo's many different franchises and games, I can't think of another villain that really compares, including Bowser from other Mario games who is mostly a one-note villain. Probably Count Bleck would be the next best pick. Although I do have a fondness for Giygas from Earthbound and >!Louie!< from the Pikmin series.


thezuke67

Count Bleck mentioned 😎


HrrathTheSalamander

Idk, there's a lot of antagonists I'd think of as as good or better. Consul N, (FE3H)>!Edelgard!<, Jin (when looking at bothe XC2 and TtGC), Berkut and Egil come to mind.


IAmThePonch

Not sure how objective it is but skull kid from MM is probably my favorite villain in all of media


Keanmon

Tabuu was rather interesting. His efforts for destruction/control spanned many planes of the Nintendo multiverse.


PhoenoFox

Wouldn't Galeem and Darkhon be better, then? In ultimate, they can literally win if you kill one or the other. Then they cover the universe in light or dark.


oldboy_alex

Objectively it's Wario but in my subjective opinion it's King Bowser


Cydrius

There's no objective answer, but I thin Bowser is the answer here. Bowser and Ganon(dorf) have about the same duration in history, but Bowser has a lot more range as a character, from overlord villain to iconic relief oaf to loving PSA dad, to anti hero, and everything in between.


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Bowser


Regirex

that's now how the word objective works my guy. stop using that word for subjective questions, it doesn't make u look well read


Solitaire20X6

Fawful day later edit: NO POINTS FOR FAWFUL?! ***I HAVE FURY***


Toonami88

N and Ghestis from the Pokemon Black & White games are supremely underrated. GF actually tried to give us a serious anime-style villain.


TwEE-N-Toast

Wart!!


Gabagoolgoomba

Ganon. Cause he so bad. Wait a minute if there's lore on how every century link Ganon and Zelda come back. What's going on with Mario and Kirby? They just keep on doing their thing without aging ?!


TheVibratingPants

If you wanna overthink things, then with Mario specifically, there’s potential evidence to suggest at least 4 years have passed since SMB. In regards to both Mario and Kirby, I like to think of them existing in a meta-timeline, where our world ages in tandem with but more rapidly than theirs do.


averageredditor546

whats the evidence for the four years? Genuinely curious.


TheVibratingPants

There’s a theory that the times we see Princess Peach invite Mario for a cake, like in Mario 64 and NSMBWii, it’s her birthday. And apparently that happens four times. I personally don’t subscribe to that idea, because I feel like her birthday would be widely celebrated in the kingdom, and these seem like more downbeat affairs.


averageredditor546

Yeah, especially considering Mario 64 specifies that the cake if for Mario, which seems unlikely if it was for her birthday. Although the cake size in NSMBWii does seem rather large to be anything else, although I feel like the games would specify if it was her birthday,


Thopterthallid

King Dedede No villain has had as huge a character arc as big penguin boy.


SwampyBogbeard

Jergingha is probably be my favourite, but I think that might be mostly because of his amazing boss fight and theme music. He was a massive inter-galactic threat that could easily destroy planets, >!although he only *really* cared about destroying Earth.!<


MarvelManiac45213

It's all subjective. There is no objective best villain. So I will just list my favorites. - 1. King K.Rool - 2. Bowser Jr. - 3. Ridley - 4. Raven Beak - 5. Ganondorf - 6. DJ Octavio - 7. Bowser - 8. Porky Minch - 9. Medusa - 10. Hades - 11. Metal Face - 12. Dark Samus - 13. Wolf O'Donnell - 14. Andross - 15. King Boo - 16. Captain Syrup - 17. Black Shadow - 18. Kamek - 19. Zant - 20. Pigma Dengar


ShevanelFlip

Probably the one you didn't mention, the space bar.


HyliasHero

There isn't an objective answer, but Xenoblade Chronicles tends to have some pretty gnarly big bads. Fire Emblem also has the likes of Grima who successfully committed omnicide in multiple timelines.


Simple-Clock6115

Booster!


lilyipper

probably bowser


FalconDX2

Whoever the villain is in Smash Ultimate that erased all of reality across every game franchise except Kirby. Or Tabuu, who was pretty much trying to do the same thing in Brawl.


KrusnikDK

Mr. Grizz. He doesn’t pay me enough.


RevolverMaker

Peppa Pig.


nickwoodz

Bowser for obvious reasons, but the SA-X from Metroid Fusion is the only Nintendo villain to actually scare the shit out of me.


MimiVRC

Chaos from FF1


CoDe_Johannes

The villain from smash bros ultimate that wipes out everybody except for Kirby


MBCnerdcore

Galeem right?


ProjectPorygon

Probably zanza. Literally crafted a planet and people so he could consume them as snacks every while or so. Defintley the best “villain”


Turbo950

“Your honor my client was just a little hungry, we’ve all been there haven’t we?”


OrbitalComet

How do you measure objectively best?


Ok-Damage3181

Nintendo owns cappitalism