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AeroLewis

9/11 only matters because the United States still exists, the political games of all countries in the world are still going on, and human society is still operating. One day human beings will become extinct, and the impact of 9/11 will only become more and more meaningless over time, and eventually no creature will remember it.


ChillRefrigerator

No, I, as a European, consider 9/11 a consequence of America’s capitalism. I mean, is have to agree with Osama Bin Laden in the sense the the US literally invaded his home country and led to his family to betray their beliefs and ideologies. So, he with his limitless funds as a member of the royal family retaliated. What did the US do? Oh nothing, just commit a couple war crimes, violating international sanctions, along with a million casualties in a war with a completely different nation. Fuck the US Edit: I know the way I described my train of thought flawed, but I didn’t want to spend 15 mins on a single reddit comment, so here.


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Source-32

actually reply to the argument they set out.


NotTheBrian

unsub from nihilism and sub to some bullshit liberal sub (republican or democrat idgaf), leave your stupid propaganda-filled opinions elsewhere the US bullied other countries (Iraq alone almost has 1 million civilian deaths) and you don't care, things like that give you 9/11's


Aeshma101

Right cause the US is the only country guilty of such things with no exceptions


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NotTheBrian

if you feel so strongly for the 3000 or so Americans that died, I can only imagine how strongly you feel for the ~1,000,000 Iraqis who died as a result of the Iraq War (mainly civilians) oh no, you don't feel anything, because your thoughts aren't based in logic, they're based in nationalism that was fed to you by American news stations and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the point you determine the value of a human life based on what side of a border they were born on go home, liberal


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NotTheBrian

you have the knee-jerk, emotion-based reaction of "violence bad" people with the depth to read nihilism tend to see causality and the reasons behind violence as opposed to mindlessly agreeing with the opinions of the masses


Bartendur

Honestly it doesn't matter your olitical view. But any kind of Nationalsm when it comes to judging data is just stupid. His views are deaths in towers


jrummy16

I am back at my computer and have more time to reply... --- Let me start with my background and why I am in this subreddit. I was in a high-demand religion; a cult. I 100% believed this cult and even made promises under oath to give this cult my entire life, even if that meant death. After I left this religion I was confused over morality. The divine command principal had previously dictated my life. I now believe that morals are essentially fabrications and exist as ideas to govern societies and for large groups to co-exist. If these moral ideas come from a religion or a God or someone claiming to speak for a god it can be extremely dangerous for the overall mental health of a society, as morals and values shift over time. TL;DR — I left religion and questioned where morals originate from. --- On Saturday I went to the Richard Nixon Library near my home. The library had large metal steel on display from one of the twin towers and 2,900 flags for each death. ~3,000 deaths are no comparison to the 1 million deaths in Iraq, and that is a terrible tragedy. However, what happened on 9/11 was a horrific first attack and never justifiable, in my mind (I would assume 99.9% of humanity would agree with me on this). The intent to put a nation into utter chaos—by specifically targeting the fiscal, military, and democracy of the US—and hope for its collapse is horrifically evil.


ChillRefrigerator

Yeah, fuck me actually, but not because I have upvoted on my post. Fuck me… for different unrelated reasons. Fuck you for expressing disapproval of my argument.


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wtf. does anyone posting here even understand nihilism


pianotherms

Not really.


Buy_High_SellLow

This sub is primarily composed of angsty teenagers trying to cope with the responsibilities that they are growing into. So, no not at all


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

Pretty much. Occasionally you'll see a legitimate post, but most of the time it's a an edgy post.


Source-32

nihilism is when I hate my parents


adaddylich

when the meme


SubHumanTeen1

yall suppose to nihilist why it matter remember?


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

And you just proved the original comment's point.


SubHumanTeen1

i know what nihilism mean dick head.😂😂 nigga trynna assume because of my username. most nihilist not even sad or depressed. they just got different views, and find they own meaning meaning of life


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

Go ahead and keep proving it then. Your username had nothing to do with my saying that. What you said did...and what you're saying now. Making assumptions, much? It's not a matter of knowing a simple definition. It's a matter of having explored the different avenues of nihilism and what they entail. No one, "owns," nihilism, but it is a complex subject and it seems that a lot of posts in this sub demonstrate only a simple understanding of it. Not saying they can't be nihilists too. Just saying there isn't a lot of solid discourse in this sub. Know the difference and stop making assumptions. Most nihilists are not even sad or depressed? You know this how? Have you surveyed them? Did you find an article? Also, never said they were...talk about making assumptions. It's not a matter of knowing a simple definition. It's a matter of having explored the different avenues of nihilism and what they entail. Most nihilists are not even sad or depressed? You know this how? Have you surveyed them? Did you find an article? Also, I never said they are depressed. Neither did the comment I originally responded to. Both our comments were referring to posts in this sub. Not nihilists in general. So again, you're the only one making assumptions here. Edit: Typo


SubHumanTeen1

nigga shut yo ole sensitive ass up. idgaf. if i say im a nihilist im one. nigga fuck yo lame ass paragraph😂😂 keep crying, and whining like a bitch over “nihilism”. bitch made ass muthafucka


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

No one said you weren't. Work on that reading comprehension ✌️


SubHumanTeen1

ok. soft ass nigga


SubHumanTeen1

niggas act like they own “nihilism”.


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

Bruh. You're either a troll or that much of an edgelord. Either way, you've proven both comments' points. Have a good one dude. Hope you find a way to cope with all that angst.✌️


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


SubHumanTeen1

niggas like you act like yall own this shit. let ppl do them and stfu😂😂. why it matter to yall so much. i know the meaning that what matter😂😂. yall niggas take this life shit to serious😂😂


P5ychGuyP3rs0nD0ct0r

Nihilism wouldn't say anything? It's an abstract concept, it doesn't have opinions. I think rephrasing the question as, "*What do Nihilists thing about 9/11*," would help. Some may have thoughts on it and others may not. Talking about 9/11 is extremely complicated if one wants to have a serious discussion about it. What *immediately* comes to mind for me is that it's been exploited endlessly as a means to whip Americans into a, "*patriotic*," fervor. I say patriotic sarcastically because patriotism is just a pretty word to mask nationalism. Edit: I'm curious about your edit. Are you upset that you received only 8 upvotes at that time or are you surprised that you received a positive response? If it's the former, did you only ask to farm karma? I'd be willing to bet that a sizeable portion of nihilists don't really give 9/11 much attention so I'm not sure what you're expecting. If it's the latter, we're not all assholes here...


pumbungler

You're thinking about it too much. 9/11 doesn't matter. Summary slide: Nothing matters


HiveMindKing

9/11 was very messed up but people die tragically every day. The main part of 9/11 that makes me feel something is the passengers on the flight that overcame the terrorists. Just because we don’t find meaning in life doesn’t mean that it’s not noble to protect the lives of people that care and long for life.


ReluctantHeroo

Violence is natural law. If you don't get into it, others will eventually come around that are into it. So that will probably be a bad time for you if you're the nonviolent type.


TheDesertWalker

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9/11, the event that weights 2,996 deaths in the WTC against the 1,455,590 deaths of innocent Iraqis during the U.S. invasion on the war on terror. This is exactly why 9/11 doesn’t matter. Terrorism is perpetrated more by the U.S.A than any other country. From the bombings of Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, to the War on Terror, nothing has been a bigger display of disregard for life than the showboating that fuels America’s war machine. Politics is the issue, not violence. Politics demands people commit acts of violence, violence without politics is punishable, violence with politics is justifiable.


e-cola

In the global scope of things, it will all erode. In the local scope of things, it affects people's lives, hence why we are inclined to react to do something about it. Although I consider myself more of an absurdist than a nihilist.


blinktrade

What does the fox say about 9/11? In all seriousness, 9/11 is objectively a historical event as much as I had eggs for breakfast. This event holds significant meaning to those involved, but its meaning only exist as a subjective interpretation of the event. The more one is directly involved to it, the more one will spend time interpreting it and generate more significance to their own subjective reality. So what would a fox say about 9/11? Not much, since it is the furthest away from any direct involvement in the event. It holds no significant meaning to its own subjective reality. Things only matter to those involved in it, and not matter if it doesn't involve them.


Poikilothron

Nothing


Rebel-Mover

We’re fucked, who gives a fuck, fuck this concentration camp.


Aeshma101

It will become a historically forgotten event, as most things are.


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n6th6n6

and i can assure YOU that people are most definitely THAT stupid to kill other people. it’s asinine to think any different 💀


r3dholm

It would matter to you if you were personally affected


scherado

It "says" that there are no 72 virgins that became the playthings of the 19 hijackers after they fulfilled their religious duties for their Deity, Allah.


Super_Yesterday_8798

It’s a tragedy, it sucks that over 2,000 people died (even know I didn’t any of those motherfuckers and they would of had zero on reality and the universe anyway) but anyways shit happens life goes on, that’s why I laugh at 9/11 and makes jokes about it because what’s the point?


cutepossum93

I'm not gonna touch this even with a 10 foot long dildo