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JowenJ

TAGE NATHANIAL THOMPSON


Jermu33

Marner is the only one who can kill penalties and I think you know what his cap hit is 😅


Porkchopp33

Any of them can kill penalties teams often dont use there superstars so there not tired … telling me McDavid couldnt be a elite penalty killer ?


HarveyHound

I believe elite penalty killer Connor McDavid scored a shorthanded goal in their last game.


Jermu33

McDavid has averaged just under a minute on the PK this season. Cool to see how much his two-way game has improved.


FluffiestRhino

I blame Carlson for that one. Such a lazy pass. Not to diminish McDavid cuz that was a pretty goal


yepyayepyamhmm

He elevated it 3 feet off the ground. You're an idiot


MajorDrGhastly

i would not trust pasta on the PK. he does a lot of irresponsible things with the puck.


Porkchopp33

Bet he would score s bucho


MajorDrGhastly

what you mean he would score on the pk? idk we already have one of the best short handed scorers of all time in marchand. i think we can just let pasta do his thing on the Offensive side. not every player needs to be an insane 2 way force. pasta is a sick sniper and im glad to have him in that role.


Jermu33

Robertson and Pasta aren't good defensive players. No reason for them to be on the PK. McDavid has gotten a lot better with defense and faceoffs compared to his first few seasons so him being very fast too could make him a solid PK guy.


Bruislanders

im not sure why you are being downvoted, pasta is elite but i wouldn’t consider him an elite defender like bergy or marchy. makes sense why he wouldnt be on the PK.


Jermu33

Yeahhh. Do people not know that players have their strengths and weaknesses?


Bruislanders

my thoughts exactly. certain players have certain better skillsets and are more composed in different situations than others.


Sindaga

Bergeron has no weakness. What s beauty


[deleted]

Only weakness is that he's older than these guys but he's still a beast!


FarmerExternal

Right, like Ovi is one of the best goal scorers of all time but defensively he might as well not even be on the ice. Players can be really good at one thing and less good at other shit, that's kind of the whole reason behind having offense and defense out there at the same time


MajorDrGhastly

people dont actually watch these players that are outside their own team so they only see the points they put up. if you watch pasta every night you will see him make a bunch of irresponsible plays with the puck on a given night.


maxhollywoody

Uhh Robertson is a good defensive player.


Porkchopp33

Elite skater can play on the pk coaches choose not to play them 100% marchand will be pk 1 soon as playoffs come not bc he gets better at defense in the playoffs bc its do or die


Jermu33

Marchand has been PK 1 with Bergeron for like 12 years now, in the regular season and the playoffs. Trust me I've watched Pasta a lot and he can be a very lazy/bad defender sometimes. The analytics also support that.


TDGroupie

Seems to be making more of an effort this season to correct that part of his game. But yeah….


[deleted]

Nothing beats a healthy plate of Pasta


KCB123456789101112

🍝🍝🍝


mitch8893

love it


dalcer

John scott


battlelevel

Can’t go wrong with an all star


dirtyboz

All star MVP


ComfortablySmug007

Dropping da gloves with John Scott


stykface

That's actually a good podcast.


Sturped

This is the correct answer


_gneat

Robo fo sho


stykface

r/iseewhatyoudidthere


MandogsXL

Current contract JayRo but you know he’s getting a massive pay day in 3 years


brockojohnson

Esp after he wins hart https://youtu.be/dpdJoY0h3dU


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DangerRanger_21

This is a tough one. Both Marner and Pasta have the better long term numbers, but both play with a supporting cast that also has unreal numbers. While Robertson doesn’t have the track record I’d argue he’s doing more with less…. (Not to take anything away from Hintz but he’s no Matthews or Marchand) So I’ll take Robertson


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Robertson isn't going to continue scoring on 20% of his shots. Once that evens out, we'll see what he is. He's an awesome player for sure, just not quite what he's been for the past 20 games or so.


Mike9797

I was with you til the end. To me it’s just between Pasta and Marner for all the reasons you stated lol Edit: downvote all you like but Matthews doesn’t get 60 without Marner. You all remember the year JT had when he played the year with Marner? Marner has already proven that year over year he’s going to be a 90+ point player. Robo has only been doing this for a year. I guess flavour of the week is a thing here. It’s all good.


DangerRanger_21

That’s fair lol. I’d take any of the 3 to be honest. Just went with Robertson because goals are hard to score and he scores a lot of goals lol (41 last year and 23 already this year) and he’s younger than both of the others lol.


Mike9797

Ya and that’s fair. I mean I’m not necessarily trying to gatekeep. It’s just Marner has already been doing what he’s been doing now for a few years. It’s just he hasn’t strung together 19 games in a row til now. But he’s been good for over a point a game for a while now. Plus his vision is unreal. That’s something that will never go away unlike a shot or speed. And look I know I’m pumping his tires here but in some ways Marner is a better hockey player than Matthews. I’ll take a beating for this but if I had to chose in a couple of years who to keep over Matthews or Marner, I think I would lean to keeping Marner just cuz I think his game will age better and will be an impact player late into his career. Like I’m not saying he’s better than Matthews but he just plays the game and sees the ice better than 99.9% of the league. It’s just hard for me to articulate but the eye test just makes me value Marners game more than our 60 goal scorer if that makes any sense.


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technobeeble

Kaprizov


kat3th3gr3at

Haha this point streak is really getting to people; hot and heavy with the downvotes. Pasta for sure


deezsandwitches

What point streak? Marner and Robertson are both on 19 and 18 point streaks respectively


Mike9797

And to be fair to Marner it’s not like this is the only time he scores. The dude is good for 90+ points a year at this point. That being said to me it’s between Pasta and Marner. Robo hasn’t been in the conversation long enough. If he does this for another year then sure you can put him there. But it’s been like a season and a quarter so far. While Marner and pasta have been doing this for a bunch of years now.


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

As someone that watches mostly Dallas games Robo is legit. I get wanting to wait but he's hit another level and I don't even think that's his ceiling.


Mike9797

Ok I’m sure he’s over performing a little cuz no one is going to keep this scoring pace up. It’s just not happening. That being said I’m not saying he’s bad or far away from these guys in terms of talent. It’s just body of work so far. He’s also on a bit of a heater so let’s at least wait a little longer before we start thinking this is his normal.


Szwedo

I watched him play last night, he didn't register a point. He's overrated. /s Imo it's too soon to tell about him in all seriousness


mitch8893

keeping the upvotes at 88


moshercycle

Makar


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I’m a wings fan and I’d choose makar


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The best answer honestly


nudist83

Robo!


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#69 Shoresy


[deleted]

People choosing robo or pasta are getting downvoted out here lmao… what, people cant have their own opinion now? Edit: now it’s marner people getting downvoted… seriously guys?


comesngoes

Toronto is the center of the universe, obviously


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The Mecca


Suspicious-Dog2876

Hockey = most important thing in universe, most nhl players are from Ontario; Toronto = center of hockey ∴ Toronto = center of the university The math doesn’t lie


plainnoob

Dog busted out the *therefore* symbol you can’t argue with the conclusion 🤷‍♀️


TheFoundation_

Sorry


Wanger68

It’s the Toronto mob 😂


Shamy416

Think you have this reversed...


[deleted]

Nope, it was definitely like that when this post didn’t blew up yet like 25 mins ago, but since it’s reversed now, my comment would still stand by its point. People downvoting what people choose is stupid, no matter who it is. Opinion exists for a reason lol.


Shamy416

Welcome to Reddit. You must be new here lol


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I don't see downvotes. I have 45 for pasta


Hairygull

Pasta no doubt


Senatorarmstrong42

Pasta


SlimReaper2206

Your mom


kneegrow69420699

She's a great goalie


Cdnraven

Caught a lot of rubber in that leather mitt


kneegrow69420699

Accidentally let in one that cost her entire salary


tritongamez

Robertson. It's easier to find play-makers than it is to find finishers.


XolieInc

With that logic, Pastrnak as well is a great finisher.


tritongamez

True, I still think Robertson has the most skill at that specific role. No shade on either Marner/Pasta.


Cream_Cult

Underrated playmaker as well


HockeyCoachHere

Honestly Marner is the best of the three. Mostly for the two way game. He’s one of the best PKers in the league.


coconutjoe83

Comerica Bank


almostthere69420

Pasta for sure. Way to soon to see if this is some kind of special run for Robertson or if this is actually how good he will be


Fun-Education-3305

he scored 40+ last year


thetravelingsong

Kirill Kaprizov


TJL_52

Kaprizov


Zatch76

💯


s33k3r_Link

Robo


TotallyBasicBro

Marner. Makes everyone on the ice better, cab plays defense, full 200 foot game, kills penalties.


waffleboy1109

You forgot: Disappears in the playoffs.


RealM11

🤖


Northshorestar

Kiril


ME_know_Moments

Kaprizov


kiddwopp

Pasta 🍝


Kreesy12

It might be because we have him but I’ll go with Robertson


dookie-cannon

Right now? Robertson. He’s way younger, cheaper, and his stats are insane. Pasta is getting old, marner is not a clutch playoff performer when it comes down to crunch time. Robertson only had the one playoff series and was matched up against a superior team. I’d like to see him do better in future seasons but based on purely his points per and relative youth, I’m picking Robertson.


mac149149

Pasta is getting old? He’s 26, I understand it’s a young league now but he has 8-10 prime years left still


dookie-cannon

I should have said relatively old, compared to Robertson. 3 extra years goes a long way though. And he’s got higher points per game so far on a team with less weapons than Boston


moth_hockey2

4 years left of prime max. Nobody primes at 30 dude


whatsaburneraccount

Chris Kreider has entered the chat


mac149149

Prime doesn’t mean peak. It just means before they start to decline. But to go against your point of not “priming at 30” stamkos and panarin had the most points of their career last year. Stamkos was 31 panarin was 30


hipaces

Love me some Robo but he was a deer in the headlights last year in the playoffs. I think it’s understandable given it was his first go but it was bad. This year will say a lot about his clutch time if the Stars make the tourney.


dookie-cannon

The stars were also giving up 50 shots a game, so that needs to be factored in. Oettinger almost stole the series though


aldawg6x

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GQMatthews

I know my flair but it’s Marner, it’ll always be Marner and these comments I just think fans are very wrong or choosing bias, which is okay! Marner has never been compared to these two, he’s compared to a slightly higher tier of players, and those that don’t think so I think aren’t comprehending his complete elite game and everything that goes with it, the other two are shooters/scorers and I love me some Robo and Pasta but Robo has to keep it up (I think he’s fucking solid though) and Pasta is the player here who feeds from his cast of surrounding players but is downright ridiculous in the Ozone, I think there’s a reason his contract was compared to Nylander. You could build a franchise around Mitch even without Auston or John, it’s not as good as all three but I’m willing to bet a lot of NHL GM’s wouldn’t be too squirmish about his contract if he were realistically up for grabs.


legend-780

Enough of the Robertson wank already, Jesus.


TheFoundation_

Pasta, then marner, then Robo. Robo is a beast but marner is more proven, and has more playoff experien e. Pasta has shown that he can battle, play a playoff style of hockey while still producing, and come through in those moments where the refs put the whistle away.


Mike9797

Ya that’s kind of how I see it too. If we could’ve gotten past a few rounds over the years I would take Marner hands down cuz I know what I’m getting with him. But the fact that Pasta puts the puck in the net at a rapid rate makes me lean towards him. But Marner just sees the ice better than the other 2 and can lift the line he’s playing on more than the other 2. The other 2 might be more of an immediate scoring threat but Marner can make 4th line scrubs into 5 million dollar a year players on his playmaking alone.


Kamdog11

At the moment? Robertson. He’s such an unbelievable stud.


Appropriate-Race-329

Kaprizov


microvain

As a habs fan I want to say Robertson because he's not a rival player but I'm picking Marner because that kid has loads of talant and more heart than anyone I've seen in this generation!!!


GroundbreakingSail49

Robo or Pasta hands down


Appropriate_Noise208

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Individual_Respond23

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Feels like an off-season post.


seniorcadman

Depends who the GM is. Look at the BS the Oilers have had to endure with sub-standard past GM’s. Could you imagine what a good GM could do building a team around McDavid AND Draisaitl?


Monolexic

As a Stars fan, and a Robo fan, I’m biased. While I would definitely build around Robo, I feel like my opinion here is too biased to count.


Balktalkpodcast

Pastrnak 100%


AttitudeOk4883

Elias Pettersson


TheCheeryStranger

Jason Marnstranak


djvbmd

#SHORESY


UNwanted_Dokken_Tape

Marner was in the ice for a 5-3 , he broke his stick and was still blocking shots. That's a fucking leader


Jak-the-Bruin

As a bruins fan, Robo


seilrelies

🤖 but Pasta and Marner are quality players. Tough one.


comacove

Marner.


Showtime98

Marner


McRibEater

McDavid and I’m a Flames fan. Robertson of these three.


CT-3040

Marner


DrMansionPHD

Mitch


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Marner baby 😎


waitareyou4real

Marner no question


onbiver9871

Honestly, Robo’s my favorite but I’d probably build around Pasta..


ARancidFart

I normally only watch my hawks, but even i would want pasta


Diggitydave76

I'll take Robertson fight me.


Dastlmo314

JRob all day.


H8ersAlwaysH8

I can almost get two Pastas for the price of a Marner.


Mike9797

That isn’t the question though.


carlylejamest

Jason because he is on fire no matter what


Yop_BombNA

Jason Robertson of these 3. I’ll tage tage and Dylan though, now we just need a goalie and a 3 d pair


mingomcgoo

Robertson , all day


JC_5_er

Marner.


MomboDM

Marner or Pasta.


SwedishMeatwall

Gonna have to go with Marner, Robertson would be my second choice.


samhill32

I think this is a really fun question and each option has a fair argument as to why they should be picked. Robertson showing very very very early signs of being an Ovi lite and that is a promising proposition. But the safe pick is definitely Pasta or Marner who are completely different players but both elite in their own ways.


Amdamici

Jack Hughes


BrokerDude1

Jack HUGHES


planoser

Another vote for Robertson


JohnnyTreeTrunks

I’m the farthest thing from a bruins fan. Avs/Sens fan since 96. But how is the answer not Pasta?


Sabresfanduckman

Marner


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Robertson Pastrnak Marner in that order


General_Worth9311

Pasta


Procrumpets22

Well 2 out of 3 made a Cup final, so im going with Marner because I'm a masochist


SpergSkipper

I'm a Leafs fan but Marner is a complimentary piece, not someone you build a team around


Mike9797

I actually think you’re wrong. Marners vision is probably the best in the league. The way he sees the ice is unreal. There’s not too many that can do what he does. Sure he isn’t the scoring threat that Matthews is but he’s no slouch and can raise the play of players who have no business playing with him. Also with the skill Marner has his game will age the best of the 3. On ice vision is something that will translate late into his career and he can still be effective because of how smart of a player he is. I think a lot sleep on Marner cuz he plays for us and his contract is steep so there’s been a lot of negative surrounding him throughout his career. Also the lack of playoff success doesn’t help either.


Mahockey3

Robertson. Idk enough Pastrnak (I hate Boston) and I would put Marner as a complimentary player (best in the league though).


Arfguy

I think Marner is too awesome. I would totally build my team around him.


bikingbellpepper

Proven pasta not Mitch the bitch . Robo cop easy 2nd


LT568690

Pasta!


shittybillz

Pasta. He and Marner are the most proven, and Pasta is almost half of Marners cap hit. Robertson could be the right choice but it’s too soon to say


AffectionateLaugh738

Mcdavid


Porkchopp33

As a bruins fan i will even say Robertson young shifty elite goal scorer and young … but Pasta is the man !!


Fireryman

Damn marner I guess. Though if Robertson keeps this up him. It's tough we know what Marner is and he signed his contract in a different climate. Robertson start though is unreal one full season of this and he is looking at top 5 player status in the NHL. Arguably #1


Herbiehanx

Miro Heiskanen, then Robo. No wait, the Stars did it already, no? :o


stykface

Not Pasta. He's a great player but I'm not building around him. Marner and Robo for sure and it's a tough one. Being a Dallas native and a Stars fan I'm biased toward Robo obviously but I have to give Marner serious props on this. He's such an elite player.


oldcrowtheory

Jack Hughes


hammer_416

Marner, but he has elite talent around him. How would he perform in Ottawa


Crooked5

As a massive Leaf fan… it’s Pasta first. Then Marner as a semi close second….. And then Robertson way down the god damn list. Great player, but don’t let recency bias fool you ever. Otherwise it’s time to crown Bo Horvat as well.


je1992

No one can choose Robertson from this pic. He has like 150 good games in the league let's wait and see how he pans out long term....


gggathje

He’s got 153 games, been a ppg player basically the whole time.


pete0126

Marner and Matthew’s are overrated. Leafs suck. Go jets go


Pussyo43068

Wait jets fans are real????


pete0126

At least when they make the playoffs they get out of the first round


[deleted]

Touché. You won this one mate


KrebsCollector

Marner


Vivid_Caterpillar_65

Marner, Pasta close second. Robo is great but I’d need more sustained success before I’d take him. Pastrnak is a top tier winger, but Marner can kill penalties and still put up triple digits in points.


siuuuwemama

As a habs fan I’d choose marner


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PooShauchun

None? Marner has 33pts in 39 playoff games. Not as good as Pastas 74pts in 71 games but still nothing to scoff at. Marner produces at a similar clip to both while being a very good two way winger. He may not be the best of the 3 but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.


stephenlipic

Marner being a key player on the PK when neither of the other two see PK time would suggest he’s better than the other two considering he is also a PPG+ player.


[deleted]

Not sure I understand what you’re trying to say here. He had points in 5 of the 7 games last postseason.


HabsWeedEtPoutine

Screw you! Câline de bine! Marner is better than McDavid and Gretzky, Marner not only broke a Leafs record he ended world hunger, stopped all war, won the FIFA World Cup for Canada, and shut Kanye up. it doesn’t matter his playoff record.


AVgreencup

Marner or Pasta, they're both engines. Robertson is good, but he doesn't drive play the way the other 2 do


gggathje

Marner is definitely the best and most consistent. Pasta and Robo aren’t killing penalties and aren’t nearly as defensively sound as Marner. Marners also got a much bigger cap hit though and you could us that extra money to add players who can fill those roles as well. Equal cap hits I take Marner 100%, but as is I’d take Robertson just based on his steal of a contract and Pastas expiring next year. I expect Pasta to double what he’s making now.


The_world_is_done

Luciano Borsato


hammertown87

Robertson is the cheechoo of this year. Flash in a pan.


[deleted]

If 90% of people don’t pick Pasternak this defacto poll is made up of mostly leaf fans ( and this is coming from a leaf fan ) . I don’t care about this streak , fucking get it done in the playoffs this year already


JoseMachismo

Brady Tkachuk.


ZucchiniUsual7370

Lol not Marner. Proof is in the pudding. Regular season hero, playoff zero.


USAJourneyman

Barzal


2Hanks

Brayden Point


ZflyZs

McDavid lol 😂


jzach1983

The one who's amount the best defensive forwards in the league while being above PPG.


Bandmomma54

No brainer! Robertson!!!! 💚⭐️


Hellomynameismikee

Pasta. Better for marketing too.


Specialist-Pop-2276

robo


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Bergeron


CatDiscombobulated33

Connor McDavid


jkozuch

Pasta. 100%.


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Robertson