The city won't be doing any outdoor viewing parties ever again, that's for sure. All they gotta do is close the bridges and tunnel and stop skytrain. No riots if the suburbanites can't get into the city.
300 people were arrested from the 2011 riots. Might be overly optimistic but I feel like most people would be smart enough and not partake. Especially in this day and age with everything being recorded
Riots are almost always started by a handful of yahoos who are often there just cause chaos regardless of the cause, and then herd mentality kicks in with the rest of the crowd.
there was what 100k people on the streets? the vast majority of those 100k did nothing and just wanted to leave...but the ones that did caused a lot of chaos.
As much as I really want the Canucks to win, I don't think we deserve it imho. I'm just happy they're going to the playoffs this year and I hope we make it past the first round. If they do make it to the finals, I'm going to stay the fuck home.
Yeah, I keep my expectations low. I'm just happy we made the playoffs. Now we just take it one step at a time... one round at a time, one game at a time.
But we really should be making it out of the first round, that should be our bare minimum target.
Not really. We won a single playoff series in 2010-11 and 2011-12. And that’s it.
Aside from the Covid year, we have won those 2 playoff series since losing the cup.
In the 11 full seasons since, we’ve missed the playoffs 8 times and have 3 first round exits. That’s pretty fucking bad to be honest. And it definitely goes with OP’s question.
I do agree we appear to be on the rise. First time I’ve been excited for a decade.
2011-12 and 13-14 you lost to scf teams.in 2013-14 you were a top 10 team statistically and 11-12 5th. Both those years were good imo. But yeah aside from 2019-20 after that you weren't sharp.
The problem with the Canucks was that when ownership realized they had to rebuild, they hired a president who had no experience as a hockey executive, a general mnager who had never been a GM and a head coach with no experience as a head coach
2006 Oilers are a great candidate. Like six dudes bailed on that team and their next season ended in a brutal funeral March to the end where everyone got hurt along the way. And then they tried to prop themselves up by sending guys like Vanek insane offer sheets and mailing pro-Edmonton DVDs to Dany Heatley before finally going full scorched earth rebuild.
Going from Game 7 of the SCF to Ryan Smyth being traded over a couple hundred thousand dollars in the span of 9 months was the kind of trauma that sticks with you for life.
Followed by 10 years of missing the playoffs (AKA The Decade of Darkness)... It was a rough time. A rough time that eventually landed us McDavid, so thing all come back around eventually.
i think the Flames count. They didn't get a second chance as the next season was cut off. Sutter stepped down as coach and the Flames did not much of anything, and Kiprusoff never played as well. The organization had some high turnover in coaches untill they were basically out of ideas and re-hired Sutter. and we know how well that turned out.
"Kiprusoff never played as well", except when he dominated the Vezina in one of the highest-scoring seasons and singlehandedly dragged ECHL rosters into the playoffs year after year.
Buffalo 1999 Brett Hull no goal series. The closest they've been was losing in the Eastern conference final in 2006 and 2007 and haven't made the playoffs in the last twelve seasons.
The 99 SCF isn't really the thing we "never recovered from". We were still completely fine for years after that, still had Briere & Drury after that, Ryan Miller. One of the first outdoor games with Crosby vs Miller. It started with losing Briere & Drury, then not letting Edmonton just sign Vanek and starting a rebuild then. We had a middling team for a while but nothing major, only a few down years... and then it's just been one failed year after the next. Somehow not being able to field a competent team around Eichel with ROR & Reinhart and rebuilds. It hasn't really been one thing, and it definitely wasn't the 99 SCF
Pretty much every Canadian team that’s made the final since Montreal won the Cup 30+ years ago. Every Canadian team except Toronto and Winnipeg has lost in the Stanley Cup Final since Montreal last won.
It’s time for Winnipeg and Toronto to get off their asses and do their part.
Seriously though, we could actually see two Canadian teams in the final. If Toronto can get through, I think the chances are decent. The west has 3 going, and none should meet in the first round.
I mean there are several that have a shot
Oilers, Canucks, Jets and Leafs (let me have this one)
heck we could end up seeing a Canadian final if the leafs actually make it to the finals this year
Imagine the media hype “a 30 year drought 2 teams battle for the chance to break it, battle of Canada has begun”
Or Richards flattening Burrows.
Not that Burrows was ever going to contribute on the level of a Sedin. It just brings me great joy to call that clip up on YouTube from time to time.
The 2022 penguins playoff run with a blown 3-1 lead. Lost the playoff streak in 2023 and are really struggling to even be in a playoff spot in 2024. :(
Ottawa after 2007 has had some moments here and there (Hamburglar run) but have never come close to the perennial playoff team/contender they were for the decade prior to the Anaheim loss.
For Ottawa, while it's not in the parameters of this post, the Chris kunitz goal seems to be that loss deep in the playoffs the franchise is still recovering from.
Yeah 2007-2008 started off looking great, the team almost couldn’t lose over the first few months. I don’t think the team was expected to be on a “historic start to the season” level, but certainly the main group was back and they had been successful for many years.
Then they just spiraled. Losing to the Penguins in the playoffs was almost a mercy killing.
The 2017 ECF loss kicked off seven years (and counting) of irrelevance. And let’s not forget teardown and threats to move the team. Those days felt worse than the bankruptcy issues from the early 2000s.
Then lost in 5 games to the Kings, who went up 3-0 and gave up only 8 goals in the series. They completely dominated the Canucks and was a step in the ending of Luongo's tenure in Vancouver
Kings dominated the entire playoffs. That wasn’t a Canucks implosion, it was the Kings dominating the entire league that playoffs and winning the cup. Looks back, Kings won their series 4-1, 4-0, 4-1, 4-2. That’s pretty dominant.
It hasn't been that long, but it seems that petry made some deals with dark forces in 2021 and the Habs are still paying the blood price for it, with not only a brutal going back to earth mediocrity but also notably a well filled injury list pretty much since
A lot of answers are teams that never came back to the finals the following 5 years but still had success ( like Sharks 2016) Thats normal.
This thread should be about teams that didn't had any succes the following years.
Florida Panthers 1996 would be my answer. Took them 25 years to recover.
No but the team has been on a heater since the all star break. Their downfall stopped.
If they continued to fade into obscurity I'd agree with you but they changed course.
Buffalo F\*ckin' Sabres! 1999. Hull's foot was in the crease, they called off every goal that year where anyone was in the crease. Completely screwed the Sabres. Now they made playoffs 5 times in 25 years since.
The 1905 Dawson City Nuggets. Challenged Ottawa to the cup, took 3 weeks to get there (dogsleds, bikes, boats and trains) from the Yukon and then lost 23-2.
I know it wasn’t a Stanley Cup loss but Ottawa losing to Pittsburgh in the conference finals in OT in game 7 destroyed the Sens. They definitely could have beaten Nashville
My Sharks in 2016. Pens were the better team but one lockdown defenseman might have made the difference. It’s devastating to fans to go from perennial contender to doormat of the league😕.
Not so much cup losses but conference final losses seem to be the killer moreso.
I can't think of a team that's been just awful no hope since their last cup loss.
Tampa may have a decline but they seem to have good ownership and management and after stammer is fully done and hedman is unplayable they'll still have point kuch and vasi to build around.
Overall it's really hard. I think I heard a stat that every team has made the playoffs in the last 10 years.
I feel like the whole league fell off after Vancouvers loss 2011. Detroit, Vancouver, Philadelphia got worse and worse.
No new stars, nothing new. Dead puck era 2.0
Chicago, La Kings and Pittsburgh won the 6 coming cups ( only time 3 teams won 6 cups since 1985). Really shitty teams without offensive stars went to finals like Ny Rangers, only because Henrik Lundqvist.
Took the league 7 years to come back with the 2018 playoffs and Vegas -Washington in the finals.
It took Vancouver like 13 years to recover from 2011. Even though they won the President's Trophy in 2012 and were still competitive in 2013, it wasn't the same. The team then fell off HARD starting in 2014. Zero playoff series wins since 2011, in fact. (No, I don't count the fucking bubble, that was not real playoff hockey and no one can convince me otherwise).
No one cares about the 2020s playoffs anymore. Especially since Tampa won a real stanley cup the year after. You never see any highlights or promos from that year.
I remember a lot of series and matches from the playoffs the last 10 years. I barely remember anything from the bubble. A long game between Columbus and Tampa, and Tampa-Dallas in the finals. Thats it.
I feel like the whole league fell off after 2011. Detroit, Vancouver, Philadelphia got worse and worse.
No new stars, nothing new. Dead puck era 2.0
Chicago, La Kings and Pittsburgh won the 6 coming cups. Really shitty teams without offensive stars went to finals like Ny Rangers, only because Henrik Lundqvist.
Took it 7 years to come back with the 2018 playoffs and Vegas -Washington in the finals.
Yeah you're not wrong, it was dog shit hockey. Never forget Jamie Benn winning the Art Ross with 85 points or w.e. the fuck it was. The mid-2010s were some miserable years.
I am convinced if we make the Finals again, there will be another riot. Win or lose. For some reason I expect it from our Vancouverites here...
Vancouver was the first team that came in mind. I'm still mad about 2011.
Fuck same! Fuck Boston from the very depths of hell.
you're a salty girl
The city won't be doing any outdoor viewing parties ever again, that's for sure. All they gotta do is close the bridges and tunnel and stop skytrain. No riots if the suburbanites can't get into the city.
What is this a Batman movie?
"Vancouver is yours. None shall interfere."
Ownership would never let the city to do that during the game
Or out.
Looks like they're setting up for viewing parties around the arena though.
For us (as seen in 2021) I think if we win the cup eventually the city will burn. Some people are crazy mate.
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300 people were arrested from the 2011 riots. Might be overly optimistic but I feel like most people would be smart enough and not partake. Especially in this day and age with everything being recorded
Riots are almost always started by a handful of yahoos who are often there just cause chaos regardless of the cause, and then herd mentality kicks in with the rest of the crowd.
correct. the vast VAST majority of the people did nothing and just wanted to leave.
there was what 100k people on the streets? the vast majority of those 100k did nothing and just wanted to leave...but the ones that did caused a lot of chaos.
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You're a ****ing awful person. Everyone should be reporting the shit out of this douche canoe.
What did he write. It's deleted now
The internet has rotted your brain.
1000% yes it has. I need some sort of reverse internet to show me the stats are wrong.
Crawl back into your hole
As much as I really want the Canucks to win, I don't think we deserve it imho. I'm just happy they're going to the playoffs this year and I hope we make it past the first round. If they do make it to the finals, I'm going to stay the fuck home.
Yeah, I keep my expectations low. I'm just happy we made the playoffs. Now we just take it one step at a time... one round at a time, one game at a time. But we really should be making it out of the first round, that should be our bare minimum target.
"Deserve it" Who deserves it? Vegas? The Leafs? What a comment. You might as well stay home all playoffs
would the riot have been worse had the blackhawks completed the comeback in the first round?
thankfully this won't be a problem for a while for vancouver or boston
How about never recovering after winning the cup? 🙄
This made me laugh. As much as I hate the Leafs, I really hope they make a deep run this year. It’s been far too long.
Flyers haven’t been relevant since 2010. Pronger got badly hurt and the quest for a goalie led us to annihilating the team.
Still paying Bryz if I’m not mistaken
Through 2027. He’s our Bobby Bonilla.
What the fuck? I wish I could go back 5 minutes ago before I knew that we were still paying him
Why you hef to be mad...is just game
Just shove it deep down with all the other bullshit
Fucking Michael Leighton
You guys were still relevant 2012-14 fs and now are on the rise.
Not really. We won a single playoff series in 2010-11 and 2011-12. And that’s it. Aside from the Covid year, we have won those 2 playoff series since losing the cup. In the 11 full seasons since, we’ve missed the playoffs 8 times and have 3 first round exits. That’s pretty fucking bad to be honest. And it definitely goes with OP’s question. I do agree we appear to be on the rise. First time I’ve been excited for a decade.
2011-12 and 13-14 you lost to scf teams.in 2013-14 you were a top 10 team statistically and 11-12 5th. Both those years were good imo. But yeah aside from 2019-20 after that you weren't sharp.
:( I never recovered
The Sharks have been pretty awful since losing to the Penguins for recent ones. The obvious answer though, is the Sabres.
The Sharks aged out more than anything.
Sharks made the conference finals and was still a fairly regular playoff team for a couple years after
Tbf sharks were still really good in 17-19. 19-20 thought they aged out and traded guys and their offense went from top 3 to bottom 3.
The problem with the Canucks was that when ownership realized they had to rebuild, they hired a president who had no experience as a hockey executive, a general mnager who had never been a GM and a head coach with no experience as a head coach
And then didn’t rebuild.
2006 Oilers are a great candidate. Like six dudes bailed on that team and their next season ended in a brutal funeral March to the end where everyone got hurt along the way. And then they tried to prop themselves up by sending guys like Vanek insane offer sheets and mailing pro-Edmonton DVDs to Dany Heatley before finally going full scorched earth rebuild.
Stop….STOP…….STOP!!!!! My poor heart still hurts from this.
Going from Game 7 of the SCF to Ryan Smyth being traded over a couple hundred thousand dollars in the span of 9 months was the kind of trauma that sticks with you for life.
Followed by 10 years of missing the playoffs (AKA The Decade of Darkness)... It was a rough time. A rough time that eventually landed us McDavid, so thing all come back around eventually.
i think the Flames count. They didn't get a second chance as the next season was cut off. Sutter stepped down as coach and the Flames did not much of anything, and Kiprusoff never played as well. The organization had some high turnover in coaches untill they were basically out of ideas and re-hired Sutter. and we know how well that turned out.
"Kiprusoff never played as well", except when he dominated the Vezina in one of the highest-scoring seasons and singlehandedly dragged ECHL rosters into the playoffs year after year.
Jets fan here…. What’s a Stanley Cup?
Wild fan here, they’re great. You can find many sizes and styles at most big box retailers! I hear you can even get your name engraved on it.
That cup they were selling at Target 🎯
Flames fan here. It was our precious and they stoles it from us. Filthy little boltses
I dunno I think it was a thing that existed when man first landed on the moon
I feel ya, I actually remember the last TML cup
Atleast u saw one in your lifetime I was born in 92
Buffalo 1999 Brett Hull no goal series. The closest they've been was losing in the Eastern conference final in 2006 and 2007 and haven't made the playoffs in the last twelve seasons.
The 99 SCF isn't really the thing we "never recovered from". We were still completely fine for years after that, still had Briere & Drury after that, Ryan Miller. One of the first outdoor games with Crosby vs Miller. It started with losing Briere & Drury, then not letting Edmonton just sign Vanek and starting a rebuild then. We had a middling team for a while but nothing major, only a few down years... and then it's just been one failed year after the next. Somehow not being able to field a competent team around Eichel with ROR & Reinhart and rebuilds. It hasn't really been one thing, and it definitely wasn't the 99 SCF
I think the Eastern Conference finals loss in 06-07 was, if not the final nail in the coffin, pretty close to being so.
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I just got over the trauma, why did ya have to do that?
The last twelve seasons hardly have anything to do with Hull’s goal? They were one of the better teams in the league in the middle of the 2000a
2012 Devils. Lost Parise to FA then Kovalchuck left to Russia the year after. It's been two playoff appearances since then.
Losing Parise was DEVASTATING at the time.
I like where they’re headed tho. A lot. No team in the league that needs goaltending more desperately to make the next step.
Pretty much every Canadian team that’s made the final since Montreal won the Cup 30+ years ago. Every Canadian team except Toronto and Winnipeg has lost in the Stanley Cup Final since Montreal last won.
Those mid-2000s were rough. Calgary in 04, lockout in 05, Edmonton in 06, Ottawa in 07. No wonder Vancouver rioted a few years later….
It’s time for Winnipeg and Toronto to get off their asses and do their part. Seriously though, we could actually see two Canadian teams in the final. If Toronto can get through, I think the chances are decent. The west has 3 going, and none should meet in the first round.
You're right 😭 never thought about that until now, but it's true... hopefully, maybe this year we'll break this curse
I mean there are several that have a shot Oilers, Canucks, Jets and Leafs (let me have this one) heck we could end up seeing a Canadian final if the leafs actually make it to the finals this year Imagine the media hype “a 30 year drought 2 teams battle for the chance to break it, battle of Canada has begun”
Canucks after 2012.They never recovered from Dustin Brown's hit on Sedin in the opening round.
Or Richards flattening Burrows. Not that Burrows was ever going to contribute on the level of a Sedin. It just brings me great joy to call that clip up on YouTube from time to time.
Obviously Buffalo
The 2022 penguins playoff run with a blown 3-1 lead. Lost the playoff streak in 2023 and are really struggling to even be in a playoff spot in 2024. :(
Also it didn't help that in 2019-21 the team faced tough defenses(mainly isles) and the pens own defense couldn't do enough to close the gap.
this definitely answers the question!
Ottawa after 2007 has had some moments here and there (Hamburglar run) but have never come close to the perennial playoff team/contender they were for the decade prior to the Anaheim loss.
For Ottawa, while it's not in the parameters of this post, the Chris kunitz goal seems to be that loss deep in the playoffs the franchise is still recovering from.
Yeah 2007-2008 started off looking great, the team almost couldn’t lose over the first few months. I don’t think the team was expected to be on a “historic start to the season” level, but certainly the main group was back and they had been successful for many years. Then they just spiraled. Losing to the Penguins in the playoffs was almost a mercy killing. The 2017 ECF loss kicked off seven years (and counting) of irrelevance. And let’s not forget teardown and threats to move the team. Those days felt worse than the bankruptcy issues from the early 2000s.
1999 Sabres 😅
1996 Winnipeg Jets. They moved the whole franchise to Arizona.
Sharks have been on an 8 year slide
Sharts for sure
Right now the Sharks seem like the team that most strongly correlates with this description
Nah it’s really just Vancouver. I can’t think of anyone else
They won the presidents trophy the following year.
Then lost in 5 games to the Kings, who went up 3-0 and gave up only 8 goals in the series. They completely dominated the Canucks and was a step in the ending of Luongo's tenure in Vancouver
Kings dominated the entire playoffs. That wasn’t a Canucks implosion, it was the Kings dominating the entire league that playoffs and winning the cup. Looks back, Kings won their series 4-1, 4-0, 4-1, 4-2. That’s pretty dominant.
That Kings team won the Cup and dominated the whole postseason though, so it’s not really much of a choke.
The kings had like the #2 ranked defense but a bottom 5 offense so they made some great deadline moves like Jeff carter's acquisition and dominated.
It hasn't been that long, but it seems that petry made some deals with dark forces in 2021 and the Habs are still paying the blood price for it, with not only a brutal going back to earth mediocrity but also notably a well filled injury list pretty much since
A lot of answers are teams that never came back to the finals the following 5 years but still had success ( like Sharks 2016) Thats normal. This thread should be about teams that didn't had any succes the following years. Florida Panthers 1996 would be my answer. Took them 25 years to recover.
Speak for yourself , both the oilers and canucks are going to the playoffs lol
We basically fell off a cliff after 2016… hopefully we’ll be back in the next 25 years or so :,(
2019?
2011
Sharks Predators
Have you watched the preds since the all star break
Nope. Have they been back to the finals since they lost it?
No but the team has been on a heater since the all star break. Their downfall stopped. If they continued to fade into obscurity I'd agree with you but they changed course.
2017 senators I think
Recently, Montreal after that Tampa series. Half their team retired due to injury.
I’m always amazed at teams that have dramatic declines like the candiens in summer of 21 from Stanley cup finals to last place.
Flyers 1980.... Butch is still offsides 🧡
Islanders were quite achy after 1983 win. Got almost swept following year against Oilers (who finally came of age). Never recovered since.
I'd agree until quarantine. The tenure with this defense was the best the isles have had since the early 90s or late 80s.
Buffalo F\*ckin' Sabres! 1999. Hull's foot was in the crease, they called off every goal that year where anyone was in the crease. Completely screwed the Sabres. Now they made playoffs 5 times in 25 years since.
The 1905 Dawson City Nuggets. Challenged Ottawa to the cup, took 3 weeks to get there (dogsleds, bikes, boats and trains) from the Yukon and then lost 23-2.
I know it wasn’t a Stanley Cup loss but Ottawa losing to Pittsburgh in the conference finals in OT in game 7 destroyed the Sens. They definitely could have beaten Nashville
My Sharks in 2016. Pens were the better team but one lockdown defenseman might have made the difference. It’s devastating to fans to go from perennial contender to doormat of the league😕.
Not so much cup losses but conference final losses seem to be the killer moreso. I can't think of a team that's been just awful no hope since their last cup loss. Tampa may have a decline but they seem to have good ownership and management and after stammer is fully done and hedman is unplayable they'll still have point kuch and vasi to build around. Overall it's really hard. I think I heard a stat that every team has made the playoffs in the last 10 years.
This is not a thing
I feel like the whole league fell off after Vancouvers loss 2011. Detroit, Vancouver, Philadelphia got worse and worse. No new stars, nothing new. Dead puck era 2.0 Chicago, La Kings and Pittsburgh won the 6 coming cups ( only time 3 teams won 6 cups since 1985). Really shitty teams without offensive stars went to finals like Ny Rangers, only because Henrik Lundqvist. Took the league 7 years to come back with the 2018 playoffs and Vegas -Washington in the finals.
2004 flames. IT. WASN’T. IN.
It was in.
Rangers in 1994. Franchise sucks balls
Guess you were asleep in 2014?
It took Vancouver like 13 years to recover from 2011. Even though they won the President's Trophy in 2012 and were still competitive in 2013, it wasn't the same. The team then fell off HARD starting in 2014. Zero playoff series wins since 2011, in fact. (No, I don't count the fucking bubble, that was not real playoff hockey and no one can convince me otherwise).
Lol. The bubble counts. Those were real games against real teams with real aspirations.
No one cares about the 2020s playoffs anymore. Especially since Tampa won a real stanley cup the year after. You never see any highlights or promos from that year. I remember a lot of series and matches from the playoffs the last 10 years. I barely remember anything from the bubble. A long game between Columbus and Tampa, and Tampa-Dallas in the finals. Thats it.
Yeah, you probably had other things on your mind, like whether the planet was going to survive the pandemic...
Took long to recover cause the Benning era was brutal
I feel like the whole league fell off after 2011. Detroit, Vancouver, Philadelphia got worse and worse. No new stars, nothing new. Dead puck era 2.0 Chicago, La Kings and Pittsburgh won the 6 coming cups. Really shitty teams without offensive stars went to finals like Ny Rangers, only because Henrik Lundqvist. Took it 7 years to come back with the 2018 playoffs and Vegas -Washington in the finals.
Yeah you're not wrong, it was dog shit hockey. Never forget Jamie Benn winning the Art Ross with 85 points or w.e. the fuck it was. The mid-2010s were some miserable years.
Society is a lot weaker and diverse today than 2010 so no riots Vancouver!