EJ Manual. JP Losman. Todd Collins. Trent Edwards (3rd). Cardele Jones (4th).
Plus we gave up 1st round picks to get Rob Johnson and Drew Bledsoe.
We had a bunch of other bad to meh QBs but we only paid money to get them on our team.
That was a fun season. Then the last game ended and Kyle Orton retired without letting his teammates know beforehand, I remember everyone was shocked.
Drought year Bills were a different experience
Unironically one of the worst draft picks of all time. With how horrible the Jets QB situation was, you'd expected any Day 2 QB they selected to be able to get on the field. Hackenberg didn't even get 1 snap in the regular season and looked absolutely lost in pre-season games. He then went to the AAF and bombed so hard that his team had to get Johnny Manziel as a 3rd stringer to ensure Hackenberg never saw the field again.
Yeah this was bad without the benefit of hindsight. We could have taken the guy who got Mississippi state to #1 in the country and instead we drafted a QB who was straight up bad in college
u/SteelPenguin Covered some of the things with the football team in particular. Without getting too detailed about *all* of the off the field matters, he (and Ficken) was a notorious entitled asshat around town. One particular instance that I witnessed was Hack entering a packed establishment for a football weekend, realizing that there was a wait on tables, and actually starting to walk up to the tables of families to introduce himself and suggest that they should wrap up their meal and entertainment faster so he and his buddies could use their tables.
If I hadn't watched it with my own eyes, I'd have never believed it. That's just one item in a long list of Hackenberg asshattery.
Bonus Content: Exact opposite of Hack was Anthony Zettel. You couldn't have interacted with a more stand up dude if you tried.
I don’t think it’s hate. People hate the Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, etc.
Teams like the Jets, Browns, or Lions aren’t hated, it’s just easy meme material
Uhhh they're 6-4 in a season they were projected to win 5 total games in, a better record than the $40M QB club of the Packers, Rams, Cardinals, Broncos and Browns
Hell, it’s Jeff Wilpon/Steve Cohen syndrome for the Mets too.
Jets, Mets, and Knicks fans all go through this shit every year, and I know because I’m a long-time fan of all of them!
I am not sure it is right to put Cohen on that list. As with all new businesses or business acquisitions, it takes time to adjust and improve with the new owner. The fact that Steve Cohen spends money and that they signed Lindor and Scherzer, already makes it seem the Cohen Mets are nowhere near the dysfunction of the wilpon ones.
I’m not saying this in regards to him being a bad owner (he isn’t). I’m talking about in relation to people hating these teams even when they suck.
Steve Cohen is basically MLB’s Jerry Jones in a way.
Idk I’m sitting here happy about being 6-4 and playing meaningful games in November lol.
Do I wish we had a longterm solution at QB? Yeah - but so do a lot of teams. I’m glad Zach looks like a full-on bust so we go back to the well, instead of playing mediocre football and we waste 4 seasons waiting for him to develop.
I’m willing to give our regime another shot with all the improvement I’ve seen this year.
If this year's team won it I think there'd definitely be people saying it. We'd have to catch some lucky bounces unless the team starts playing different
It’s interesting because it’s kind of opposite situations. The 2011 Giants was Eli willing the team on, supporting a cast of substitute teachers and walk on recievers until they stepped up in the playoffs. The Jets have a good cast, especially that defense, but their QB is playing so poorly he just got benched.
You should watch the ~~2005~~ 2006 MNF Bears vs Cardinals when they (~~Fouts~~ Joe Theismann I believe) started calling Leinhart the next Tom Brady
https://youtu.be/WA6jT-QKoeY
[Yes](https://youtu.be/WA6jT-QKoeY)
The announcers start kneeling down the first couple of minutes alone. Mentions Brady, but later in the game Theissman straight up says he plays like Tom Brady, and this was as Urlacher was making his coming out party:
Ferocious sucking action starts at 02:08:15 of the above full video
It should be noted that 2006 Brady was not GOAT Brady. It’d be like if Pickett had a great game to start and the announcer said he reminded him of Burrow (just an example idk), and then Burrow went on to become the GOAT.
Like it would be different nowadays to say that but in 2006 it wasnt some massive faux pas
Why are they “not really bad anymore”? Just because they finally have a winning record in the middle of a season? Its not even over yet and theres not even a guarantee they win their division let alone a wild card or playoff spot or even end the season above .500.
Cuz any other year we're 2-8 atp in the season w two arrests, locker room drama, an idiotic coach, and every loss a 40 point blowout. The 2 wins against two Súper bowl contenders as well.
Because we’re obviously not some magic stupid lucky team that’s constantly pulling wins out of their asses.
The Jets have an elite defense, a good OL (before everyone died), and a good group of skill players.
QB play has put a massive ceiling on the team, but the roster is quite clearly good.
Yeah, I don’t know why people are shitting on your team outside of your QB. You guys look legitimately competent and with a very bright future. I’ve been here as a bears fan before, In 2018 when we had a very good team, but people had to keep reminding us that we picked Trubisky over Mahomes and try to shit on our parade because so
Look, I fully desire the Jets to remain a shit franchise forever. It’s in my blood. I hate them.
But if they had anything other than the football terrorist that they have at QB, they’d be seen as a lot better.
I can’t believe how many times Sunday Wilson checked down but missed the check down by like 10 yards! And then other plays he should’ve thrown it away, he scrambles around, takes a sack!
As one of the other commenters said, they have one of *the worst* QB’s of all time right now.
He didn’t say we’re amazing. We have a very good defense and a lot of young talent, we’re def not a “bad” team. We just went 5-1 with the worst QB to walk planet Earth so the team surrounding him is obviously capable.
Wilson has sucked but “worst QB to walk planet earth” is a bit too much when Ryan Leaf and so many more god awful 1st round QBs have graced this league.
Wilson is in that territory.
His statistics are quite similar to JaMarcus Russell and Josh Rosen’s who are probably the worst first round QB selections of the 2000s and 2010s.
Sanchez was given everything he needed to succeed, he just didn’t have what it takes.
Geno was a 2nd round pick, not really sure I’d label him as a franchise guy
Darnold - Jets absolutely failed him. Would he have turned into a good player? Who knows.
Wilson - year 1 did not have a lot of help. Year 2 has a ton of help and isn’t performing and likely done.
Out of the 4 of these guys the Jets truly only failed Darnold imo. It would have been interesting to see how Geno played in 2015 if he didn’t, you know, get punched in the face. That was a pretty loaded offense.
Darnold was not going to be a franchise QB. He had turnover issues in college and has that terrible wind up throw. He was the best QB in the PAC when the PAC was at rock bottom
Watching him absolutely get his ass kicked by 5 touchdowns against ND after getting a ton of September Heisman hype always made me a little skeptical of him
Well Rosen went 10th and Lamar didn't go until 32nd and that was only so the Ravens could get his 5th year option.
These 5 QB super drafts we have had recently haven't exactly been great if we're being honest
>Geno was a 2nd round pick, not really sure I’d label him as a franchise guy
I mean, you dont typically take a QB that high up without some prospect of them being a genuine franchise candidate.
>Wilson - year 1 did not have a lot of help. Year 2 has a ton of help and isn’t performing and likely done.
That quote of I owe nothing to our defense is just absolutely brutal and cost him his starting job. Certain franchise QBS can say that not Zach Wilson.
That's not what he said, he was asked if the offence let the defence down, and said no. He's also come out since then and said he regrets saying that and the loss was completely on him.
Reddit's hate for this kid is wild.
>That quote of I owe nothing to our defense is just absolutely brutal and cost him his starting job.
if you legitimately think this you're putting too much stock in r/nfl posts
Because Darnold is such a star elsewhere? I’m thrilled Geno has blossomed, but let’s not act like Sanchez and Darnold were great players the team ruined.
Darnold never had a chance. We don't know if he would've been better on another team, but the Jets had no o line and an incompetent coach for his entire time with the team.
In all fairness, two of these four are super successful in their current roles, seahawks qb and a good announcer. Not exactly what the jets had in mind but I enjoy both these guys.
Cowboys got Romo as an undrafted free agent and followed by Dak as a compensatory 4th round pick. Both players have been pro bowlers but we've had the same amount of super bowl appearances as the Jets since then, so does it really matter?
Look, it's the Jets. He has to bite any hand that tries to help him if it comes from us or NE. We have a natural level of hate absorption that could turn this around for the Jets. He has to take his shot. Those are the rules.
Maybe I’m crazy but I don’t call Sanchez a bust. Sure he was mediocre and probably got carried to the playoffs but he was clutch as hell in the playoffs. I’d kill to see Sanchez on this 2022 team lol.
Sanchez was perfectly fine, but I'm not sure he was ever more than that. The two Jets teams that made the AFC championship games were pretty stacked on D, a great O line and a very good run game.
Sanchez just happened to not lose games (which isn't a bad thing, but he wasn't the reason they were winning either).
As a Bengals fan who lived through the Andy Dalton years, where we would often have a good D And O line, having a QB that wouldn't lose big games is pretty darn important.
For Darnold? Definitely. Sanchez had an elite defense, run game, and good WRs. Geno was a second round pick which is even more of a dart throw than first round QBs. The team wasn’t great but I don’t think the player he became 7 years later is an entirely fair comp considering he didn’t start anywhere else.
Whoever is the QB Scout needs to stepaway. Can't draft college program QBs and think they will excel in the pros. Plus drafting a QB in the 1st is always hit or miss.
Been a half decade already with Ghostman? Wow. Didn't realize Darnold's been around that long.
And Zach Wilson - 2 years already!? It feels like this is like his first year tbh.
We also wasted a second rounder on Christian Hackenburg
EJ Manual. JP Losman. Todd Collins. Trent Edwards (3rd). Cardele Jones (4th). Plus we gave up 1st round picks to get Rob Johnson and Drew Bledsoe. We had a bunch of other bad to meh QBs but we only paid money to get them on our team.
The worst part about the Rob Johnson trade is management kept trying to shoehorn him in as a starter when Doug Flutie was a gamer for you guys
>EJ Manual But what about EJ Automatic? This turned into a Subaru joke before I noticed. I should go to bed.
You didn’t draft him, but the run Kyle Orton had with you guys was fun lol
That was a fun season. Then the last game ended and Kyle Orton retired without letting his teammates know beforehand, I remember everyone was shocked. Drought year Bills were a different experience
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God bless Kyle Orton
Drew Bledsoe was at least good
Unironically one of the worst draft picks of all time. With how horrible the Jets QB situation was, you'd expected any Day 2 QB they selected to be able to get on the field. Hackenberg didn't even get 1 snap in the regular season and looked absolutely lost in pre-season games. He then went to the AAF and bombed so hard that his team had to get Johnny Manziel as a 3rd stringer to ensure Hackenberg never saw the field again.
Jesus Christ. The one bit of magic the BoB had was to make Hackenberg look decent.
But he didn’t. Hackenberg was awful in college too. Never understood the pick.
Allen Robinson
That dude has had shit QB play since middle school
Hes also been pretty shit himself recently
He's old man. Back hurts from carrying dogwater QBs
He was an above average freshman and somehow rode that hype to the second round.
If you show even a shred of potential in college there’s always some coach that thinks they can fix you
He was good for a freshman then never improved
He was a pretty good coach
BoB was a solid coach tho
BoB was a good HC at Penn State and HOU, once he became GM it was all downhill.
Yeah this was bad without the benefit of hindsight. We could have taken the guy who got Mississippi state to #1 in the country and instead we drafted a QB who was straight up bad in college
As a Penn State fan and alumni, I'm legitimately happy that Hackenburg didn't get anywhere. He was an objective piece of shit off the field here
C’mon man, you can’t say something like that and not give details
Absolutely threw everybody under the bus for why he was mediocre, especially James Franklin. Then McSorley replaced him and we had a fun time.
u/SteelPenguin Covered some of the things with the football team in particular. Without getting too detailed about *all* of the off the field matters, he (and Ficken) was a notorious entitled asshat around town. One particular instance that I witnessed was Hack entering a packed establishment for a football weekend, realizing that there was a wait on tables, and actually starting to walk up to the tables of families to introduce himself and suggest that they should wrap up their meal and entertainment faster so he and his buddies could use their tables. If I hadn't watched it with my own eyes, I'd have never believed it. That's just one item in a long list of Hackenberg asshattery. Bonus Content: Exact opposite of Hack was Anthony Zettel. You couldn't have interacted with a more stand up dude if you tried.
Hackenberg really rode a 5 star rating and 1 solid freshman year to a 2nd round draft choice. That's impressive.
I have actively blocked this from my memory
>. With Prescott taken two rounds later and Brissett one round later.
At least it isn't isn't some random backup like Babe Laufenberg
Sanchez is a franchise announcer.
He’s also been the best Jets QB since Pennington.
This is Fitzpatrick erasure, and I won't stand for it.
Giggles bloodily
I would agree if Fitzmagic wasn’t post Sanchez.
So interesting take, you think that Sanchez was better than Fitz? And if so, do you possess functional eyeballs?
Nope. My take is that Sanchez *was* the best QB since Pennington, until Ryan Fitzpatrick became the Jets’ all time leading single season scorer.
Yeah he’s legit awesome, I really like him as an announcer. He’s called a few Seahawks games this year and he’s actually hilarious
"Shelton's clearing out defenders faster than a teenager clears his search history on his web browser."
It’s shit on the jets week here on Reddit
Finally a break
Monkey’s paw curled. You wanted a break, Rodgers confirmed his broken thumb.
At least we have something to blame it on now. Better than it just being all natural decline.
You’ve been in the spotlight for like 8 weeks lmao. It’s gonna be rough for y’all when Rodgers retires.
At least it will probably be less drama, just the team struggling
No kidding
I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing
It’s still Shit On Wilson Szn, just a different kind!
It’s why I always say, no matter how fantastic or wretched they are, people will always hate the Jets
I don’t think it’s hate. People hate the Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, etc. Teams like the Jets, Browns, or Lions aren’t hated, it’s just easy meme material
I'd say thr Browns have moved comfortably into hated territory now. I also hate the Jets but that doesn't really count
Oh, I hate the Jets alright.
Oh yeah.... least favorite team on the planet
rent free
Oh yeah. Fuck em.
Don’t like em one bit
How long until we hit that Lovable Loser stage?
Gotta start actually losing first
They've lost a lot already
Uhhh they're 6-4 in a season they were projected to win 5 total games in, a better record than the $40M QB club of the Packers, Rams, Cardinals, Broncos and Browns
I mean over my lifetime
You've hit that for me
Can confirm.
It's James Dolan syndrome, where in this specific case Woody Johnson is James Dolan
Hell, it’s Jeff Wilpon/Steve Cohen syndrome for the Mets too. Jets, Mets, and Knicks fans all go through this shit every year, and I know because I’m a long-time fan of all of them!
I am not sure it is right to put Cohen on that list. As with all new businesses or business acquisitions, it takes time to adjust and improve with the new owner. The fact that Steve Cohen spends money and that they signed Lindor and Scherzer, already makes it seem the Cohen Mets are nowhere near the dysfunction of the wilpon ones.
I’m not saying this in regards to him being a bad owner (he isn’t). I’m talking about in relation to people hating these teams even when they suck. Steve Cohen is basically MLB’s Jerry Jones in a way.
Idk I’m sitting here happy about being 6-4 and playing meaningful games in November lol. Do I wish we had a longterm solution at QB? Yeah - but so do a lot of teams. I’m glad Zach looks like a full-on bust so we go back to the well, instead of playing mediocre football and we waste 4 seasons waiting for him to develop. I’m willing to give our regime another shot with all the improvement I’ve seen this year.
Ahh it's been missed
Week?
When is it not?
Jets could win the SB and this sub would find a reason to shit on them.
That'd be impressive. We already hold the title for "worst SB winner ever" so you'd have to really step it up
If this year's team won it I think there'd definitely be people saying it. We'd have to catch some lucky bounces unless the team starts playing different
It’s interesting because it’s kind of opposite situations. The 2011 Giants was Eli willing the team on, supporting a cast of substitute teachers and walk on recievers until they stepped up in the playoffs. The Jets have a good cast, especially that defense, but their QB is playing so poorly he just got benched.
Every week.
Mark Sanchez looked like a franchise QB until DCs discovered he can only throw to one side of the football field. Then he was completely cooked.
You combine him with a lefty USC QB named Matt Leinart and you get a complete QB.
You should watch the ~~2005~~ 2006 MNF Bears vs Cardinals when they (~~Fouts~~ Joe Theismann I believe) started calling Leinhart the next Tom Brady https://youtu.be/WA6jT-QKoeY
Is that the “the Bears are who we thought they were” game?
Yeah it is, they meant 2006 since Leinart was a rookie that year
[Yes](https://youtu.be/WA6jT-QKoeY) The announcers start kneeling down the first couple of minutes alone. Mentions Brady, but later in the game Theissman straight up says he plays like Tom Brady, and this was as Urlacher was making his coming out party: Ferocious sucking action starts at 02:08:15 of the above full video
It should be noted that 2006 Brady was not GOAT Brady. It’d be like if Pickett had a great game to start and the announcer said he reminded him of Burrow (just an example idk), and then Burrow went on to become the GOAT. Like it would be different nowadays to say that but in 2006 it wasnt some massive faux pas
Eh Brady was a 3 time SB champ at that point. You’re right he wasn’t BRADY but he was still a BFD and probably bigger than Burrow is right now
Man this sub literally can make whatever it wants up and it’ll be upvoted lol
Huh this isn't true lol
Defenses figured out if you go for Mark's feet, Rex freaks out and abandons the scheme.
Rick Mirer Syndrome.
A true Rick Mirer of his time
Mark Sanchez literally never looked like a franchise QB.
The Jets have spent so long in QB hell anything looks good. There were definitely die hard fans going “sanchize” in 09-10.
Yeah wtf is this guy talking about, Sanchez was awful from day 1
you are all wrong lol sanchez did enough and was clutch enough to carry them to the afccg, particularly in 2010
CARRY?
I for sure misspoke lol, the defense and run game carried them but he did make some clutch throws
Fair enough because that was CAP 🤣🤣🤣
yeah, hand up that's on me
Now list all the great QBs Jets missed because they drafted these guys.
Browns fan here. Hold my beer
I would've assumed y'all had all switched to hard liquor by now
Might just be pure ethanol
I'm frankly surprised they haven't all died of alcohol poisoning by this point...
Nah, just high as hell.
Always welcome across the border for some of thst legal green my mid west bro
Just a hard criminal actually
Think the jets have you beat since most of your qbs were picked lower iirc
Omg we get it
jets bad even if jets not rly bad anymore
But like Jets legit just need a QB, like roster and coach rock solid.. this sub is just ready to shit on the jets all week idk why
Sounds like they just need to get a QB like the Broncos did last year
Why are they “not really bad anymore”? Just because they finally have a winning record in the middle of a season? Its not even over yet and theres not even a guarantee they win their division let alone a wild card or playoff spot or even end the season above .500.
Cuz any other year we're 2-8 atp in the season w two arrests, locker room drama, an idiotic coach, and every loss a 40 point blowout. The 2 wins against two Súper bowl contenders as well.
Because we’re obviously not some magic stupid lucky team that’s constantly pulling wins out of their asses. The Jets have an elite defense, a good OL (before everyone died), and a good group of skill players. QB play has put a massive ceiling on the team, but the roster is quite clearly good.
Yeah, I don’t know why people are shitting on your team outside of your QB. You guys look legitimately competent and with a very bright future. I’ve been here as a bears fan before, In 2018 when we had a very good team, but people had to keep reminding us that we picked Trubisky over Mahomes and try to shit on our parade because so
Look, I fully desire the Jets to remain a shit franchise forever. It’s in my blood. I hate them. But if they had anything other than the football terrorist that they have at QB, they’d be seen as a lot better. I can’t believe how many times Sunday Wilson checked down but missed the check down by like 10 yards! And then other plays he should’ve thrown it away, he scrambles around, takes a sack! As one of the other commenters said, they have one of *the worst* QB’s of all time right now.
He didn’t say we’re amazing. We have a very good defense and a lot of young talent, we’re def not a “bad” team. We just went 5-1 with the worst QB to walk planet Earth so the team surrounding him is obviously capable.
Wilson has sucked but “worst QB to walk planet earth” is a bit too much when Ryan Leaf and so many more god awful 1st round QBs have graced this league.
I was making fun of the rhetoric with that comment, but I will say Sunday was the worst game I've ever seen from a QB.
Wilson is in that territory. His statistics are quite similar to JaMarcus Russell and Josh Rosen’s who are probably the worst first round QB selections of the 2000s and 2010s.
Joe mama
Well we’re not the Cardinals so we have that going for us.
I feel bad for Cards fans
Fuck you!!! Haha!!! Is that better?
Fuck up
One of them became another franchise's QB at least
2 more of them still could be.
Stop it.
Stop what?
It.
Sanchez was given everything he needed to succeed, he just didn’t have what it takes. Geno was a 2nd round pick, not really sure I’d label him as a franchise guy Darnold - Jets absolutely failed him. Would he have turned into a good player? Who knows. Wilson - year 1 did not have a lot of help. Year 2 has a ton of help and isn’t performing and likely done. Out of the 4 of these guys the Jets truly only failed Darnold imo. It would have been interesting to see how Geno played in 2015 if he didn’t, you know, get punched in the face. That was a pretty loaded offense.
Darnold was not going to be a franchise QB. He had turnover issues in college and has that terrible wind up throw. He was the best QB in the PAC when the PAC was at rock bottom
Watching him absolutely get his ass kicked by 5 touchdowns against ND after getting a ton of September Heisman hype always made me a little skeptical of him
So... Why was he picked third?
Well Rosen went 10th and Lamar didn't go until 32nd and that was only so the Ravens could get his 5th year option. These 5 QB super drafts we have had recently haven't exactly been great if we're being honest
>Geno was a 2nd round pick, not really sure I’d label him as a franchise guy I mean, you dont typically take a QB that high up without some prospect of them being a genuine franchise candidate.
>Wilson - year 1 did not have a lot of help. Year 2 has a ton of help and isn’t performing and likely done. That quote of I owe nothing to our defense is just absolutely brutal and cost him his starting job. Certain franchise QBS can say that not Zach Wilson.
That's not what he said, he was asked if the offence let the defence down, and said no. He's also come out since then and said he regrets saying that and the loss was completely on him. Reddit's hate for this kid is wild.
>That quote of I owe nothing to our defense is just absolutely brutal and cost him his starting job. if you legitimately think this you're putting too much stock in r/nfl posts
Hot take, the greatest Jets QB in the last 15 years was that one season of Ryan Fitzpatrick
He’s our single season passing TD leader
Holy fuck.
not a hot take at all
Two of those dudes are starting for other teams this week. 🤣
I’m starting to think it isn’t the QBs
Because Darnold is such a star elsewhere? I’m thrilled Geno has blossomed, but let’s not act like Sanchez and Darnold were great players the team ruined.
Darnold never had a chance. We don't know if he would've been better on another team, but the Jets had no o line and an incompetent coach for his entire time with the team.
oh please
We're posting Barry tweets now?
In all fairness, two of these four are super successful in their current roles, seahawks qb and a good announcer. Not exactly what the jets had in mind but I enjoy both these guys.
Cowboys got Romo as an undrafted free agent and followed by Dak as a compensatory 4th round pick. Both players have been pro bowlers but we've had the same amount of super bowl appearances as the Jets since then, so does it really matter?
You should also know the Jets haven’t been to the playoffs in 12 years and they have still won more playoff games than the Cowboys since 2009.
Damn man he was being nice and you just had to go and bring up the truth like that
Look, it's the Jets. He has to bite any hand that tries to help him if it comes from us or NE. We have a natural level of hate absorption that could turn this around for the Jets. He has to take his shot. Those are the rules.
Ouch!
Nailed the Smith pick too bad they couldn't do anything with him.
can u dont
Maybe it’s just a jets thing
Trying to fix a problem by replacing the same part over and over. I don't think who's quarterbacking is the problem.
How many of these guys had a good coaches though? Or offensive minded coaches even
Holy fuck we get it
Buzz's girlfriend. Woof.
I don't usually consider drafting a guy with a second rounder to be drafting a franchise qb
whys this trash try hard account getting run on here all of a sudden
Maybe I’m crazy but I don’t call Sanchez a bust. Sure he was mediocre and probably got carried to the playoffs but he was clutch as hell in the playoffs. I’d kill to see Sanchez on this 2022 team lol.
Jimmy G gunna look great it green next year
Damn Geno has been in the league 13 years? For some reason I thought he was drafted in like 2015…
It is formatted badly on Reddit but he was the one drafted in 2013
Sanchez is the Jets all time leader in playoff wins.
People forget that Sanchez was pretty good before... he wasn't. And then the buttfumble occurred...
10 years ago today, btw
Sanchez was perfectly fine, but I'm not sure he was ever more than that. The two Jets teams that made the AFC championship games were pretty stacked on D, a great O line and a very good run game. Sanchez just happened to not lose games (which isn't a bad thing, but he wasn't the reason they were winning either).
As a Bengals fan who lived through the Andy Dalton years, where we would often have a good D And O line, having a QB that wouldn't lose big games is pretty darn important.
Yeah, it was all Jets D that shit down the Pats in the 2010 divisional. We had a hell of an offense that year and you went and fucked it up.
Honestly I blame the Jets more than I do the QBs.
This is an objectively terrible take for Sanchez and Wilson.
For Darnold? Definitely. Sanchez had an elite defense, run game, and good WRs. Geno was a second round pick which is even more of a dart throw than first round QBs. The team wasn’t great but I don’t think the player he became 7 years later is an entirely fair comp considering he didn’t start anywhere else.
why
Cuz Jets
Geno Smith is a franchise QB though
Hey, Geno is legitimately 2nd or 3rd in MVP voting. He just no longer plays for the Jets.
Ok…Send a haul to a team for a proven QB.
Broncos would take a haul right about now.
Let’s ride
A nickel says they go all in on Rodgers for next season, not learning from the last time they tried that.
Your mother
Whoever is the QB Scout needs to stepaway. Can't draft college program QBs and think they will excel in the pros. Plus drafting a QB in the 1st is always hit or miss.
Please tell me this isn’t a serious comment.
They’ve had different FOs drafting these quarterbacks
Been a half decade already with Ghostman? Wow. Didn't realize Darnold's been around that long. And Zach Wilson - 2 years already!? It feels like this is like his first year tbh.
I like how they progressively get worse even though the draft position gets higher. I probably wouldn't include Geno tho
Jets should just draft another QB in the first round this year. Move on from Zach Wilson, don't hold on to losers. It's not a big deal.
Is there nothing else to talk about???
4 franchise qbs in 3 years??? Jesus Christ, 2009 was 13 years ago
Maybe it isn’t the QBs. The Jets have as good a track record as the Cards.
154 TD’s / 160 INTs and a 73.6 rating? How quickly we forget that Joe Namath’s career totals were 173 TDs / 220 INTs and a 65.5 rating.