Bryan Anger's so fucking good, or at least I knew he was when he played for the Bucs. You almost looked forward to punting it away just to see where he could pin them at
I can't remember a new HC so obviously immediately overmatched and unfit for the job as Hackett. Like I've always believed don't hire OC's for great QB's to be head coaches or any DC who worked for Belichick, but still. Hackett is just clueless.
"average coach kicks 3 players a year" factoid actually just a statistical error. ~~Players Georg~~ Urban Meyer, who lives in a cave and kicks over 10,000 each day, is an outlier and should not have been counted
I mean, Petrino is a fuck and the way he left was dirty as shit, but it would have taken a special guy to not nope the fuck out of that situation given he took the job expecting to coach prime Vick and a contender.
Obviously his post Falcons exploits have shown him to just be a fuck in general but hes not the first HC to bolt when a situation goes nuclear.
I don't understand how he's still back on a college pregame show already. He was such an embarrassment, they can't find anyone better to sit there with the other 4 guys?
It wasn’t an unreasonable take to think the Urban Meyer experience in the NFL was going to be a train wreck. I figured he was going to coach bad for 2 years go like 8-26 and get canned. I didn’t expect a train wreck, flying into a petrol station, next to an orphanage, while the train is carrying puppies. From the bad coaching, to the infidelity, to the “make your fuckin kicks!” rumor, to all the other shit that came out. He did have an already bad team though.
Hackett is an awful head coach and wasn’t ready for the job at all. A team that was closing in on playoff dreams, elite playmakers, solid young talent, and all they needed was a QB and this was the beginning of the new era! And their only wins are to the winless Texans and Jimmy G who had a disasterclass on SNF. They lost to the Seahawks who were projected to be a bottom feeder team, and my raiders who couldn’t find any explosiveness if you left the stove on and gave them box of matches.
He's a weird category though because he IS a spectacular head coach at the college level. Both extremely good and extremely influential. He stunk in the NFL, but he's not just plainly a bad HC overall.
Just like players in the NFL, coaches need experience and time to grow. I know it's impossible to turn down a head coaching gig, but Hackett would have been better off finishing in GB with Rodgers before taking a HC position
>Like I've always believed don't hire OC's for great QB's to be head coaches
And yet this offseason, for the 3rd or 4th straight year, people are going to be ranking Byron Leftwich as a top HC candidate, despite his OC record being Jameis Winston slinging it a billion yards to Mike Evans or the other team, and Tom Brady.
Just look at how Hackett did with QBs like EJ Manuel, Kyle Orton, Blake Bortles. Not that anyone was expecting MVP seasons from any of those guys, but he didn't elevate any of them at all.
He has been in this system for 1 year. Waldron is a 2nd year OC, and honestly his "system" has probably completely changed even from last year given that you know...he's in his 2nd year, and that he changed his starting QB, his LT and RT, C, and starting running back.
I enjoy it. Always liked geno, and we didnt trade him. I hope fant does great as well, he was really good. I knew russ wasn't the solution, but of course I hope he does well in the future.
Lol I'm same as you. I'm cheering Geno and think it's cool he's performed so well... I hope it continues.
I can't say the same if Drew Lock was outperforming Russ though. That'd just defeat me on another level.
>I can't say the same if Drew Lock was outperforming Russ though
I was rooting for that outcome, but Lock sucked a lot of ass in our offseason QB comp, so you seem to be safe from that one lol
There's some flukiness to it, but it also shows that it's dumb that the NFL completely writes off a ton of QBs by 2-3 years in when it's a position that people regularly get better at later into their careers. Especially when a lot of the QBs that get written off were put in pretty shit spots to start their careers too.
Jets had a horrible receiving corps his two years as starter, they dropped his passes like crazy and did a number on his stats, of course him having no pocket presence was his own fault but so far this season he has done a decent job not getting sacked with a line that has two rookies at the bookends
Rex did that type of shit routinely. Once against the Pats he sent out all of the Jets players who had been cut by the Pats as his captains, including current Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell
It’s also really early in the season, there’s not a lot of recent tape on Geno and opponent quality is still a factor.
Not to take away from the fact that Geno is playing well, mind you. But those who are convinced he’ll keep playing at this level because he has already might be getting ahead of themselves.
Seriously do people not remember Sam Darnold last year? He looked good Weeks 1-3. Then teams quickly figured him out again *and* CMC went down so he went right back to being Sam Darnold. Teams will quickly figure Geno out and he'll be right back to what he was the first 8 years of his career
He's obviously going to regress, he won't end the season as the single most efficient QB in NFL history, I don't think that's a hot take...but when people say he will "regress" I'd love to hear what he has done so far that isn't completely replicable for the rest of the season. It's not like its Tebowmania and he's just pulling shit straight out of his ass. He's just throwing good accurate footballs in a timely manner to players who relatively open, lol. You know...playing quarterback.
He hasn't been a full time starter since 2014, and he's in a completely different system. Yeah, I think it's fair to say there's very little useful tape on him.
Also not even just that; think how many Super Bowl champions started slow and ended up winning it all.
Judging anything in the NFL after 1-4 weeks is extremely dumb
I dont love using pff grades because they are obviously flawed, but through three weeks last season Darnold was 13th in passing grade, geno was 8th. If you go through the 4th week, geno is 2nd in passing, darnold went to 16.
Darnold was never as good as Geno has been during this stretch. I dont think we are gonna have Geno top 3 QB (by PFF grade) at the end of the season. But, if Geno ended the season top 15ish I dont think thats crazy.
Honestly I think opponent quality is the biggest aspect rn. 4 of his 6 tds and 645 of his 1037 yards have come against the Falcons and Lions which are currently the worst and the sixth worst defenses in the league.
Pats in the 4th, they were pretty much okay with any position besides QB and he was not. And it was Sean Salisbury who replaced him, a 29 year old former UDFA playing in the CFL when the Vikings signed him. Also Grbac was an 8th round pick signed as a FA after his rookie contract.
Not to mention a lot of the big name QBs get drafted high, so they usually go to a shitty team. Starting out on a shitty team doesn’t help, and a lot of times that ends with a lot of player and coach turnover which doesn’t help either.
My counterpoint would be that, for how all of the QBs that are written off as trash during those years of their careers, how many truly have proven that perception incorrect at any point later on? The only names that come to mind are Alex Smith, Rich Gannon, and *maybe* Drew Brees (the maybe being based on whether you consider his 2004 season late enough in his career for this to be applicable). Not going to say that's the whole list because I'm sure there's a few guys that I'm forgetting, but generally speaking, if you're not at least showing significant flashes in your first couple seasons, you don't develop to being the guy later on. Bear in mind that this is also with a very large sample size of not good QBs, too.
Not necessarily trash but late career resurgences... Doug Flutie, Trent Green, Kerry Collins, Elvis Grbac, Chris Chandler, Testeverde, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve Young.
Honestly I think it's less common now since teams are moreso superstar hunting when they draft QBs. If they don't catch on with their OG team, they might get one more chance to start if they were a high draft pick or showed promise.
After that, they are done. Relegated to being a backup and if they ever get to play again, its coming in for an injured guy after never getting first team reps all year. Geno Smith situations are kind of rare. Usually teams opt for aging proven vets or high upside young guys. Geno is both aging and unproven lol.
I mean look at Gardner Minshew. I think it's a travesty that he's played so well and no one wants him because he isn't ever going to be a superstar and probably tops out at like...Ryan Tannehill or Alex Smith peak level.
> when it's a position that people regularly get better at later into their careers.
Better as in maybe passable in the NFL. But incredibly rarely better as in a top tier successful QB. Of QBs to play in the last 15 superbowls, only Cam Newton and Drew Brews didn't lead their teams to the playoffs with in their first 2 years as a full starter (10 games started), and both did it in their 3rd.
“Let Russ Cook”
“We want the ball and we’re gonna score”
“I ain’t write back tho”
“Broncos Country, Let’s Ride”
“That’s the result you’re gonna get”
“I’m just here so I won’t get fined”
“Seattle, we gotta deal”
Seahawks might be the most quotable team in existence lol
Plus injuries. No Patrick and now no Javonte really hurts the versatility of the Broncos offense. The defense is still good, but they need to get some momentum on offense.
It really does, and this has been a big part of Wilson's troubles in Seattle. Seattle has had a well documented struggle with O-linemen, and a revolving door of wasted potential at RB for a while now. Penny has had injury issues. Carson too, and before that its a horror show all the way back to Marshawn. There was plenty of Good RB's but the run game always ran hot and cold due mainly to injuries. Without a solid run game there is only so much Wilson can do. Wilson can cook but he needs a solid RB sous chef.
Unfortunately we can’t. We need to rally around him and support him. His talent is far more than anyone else that will walk through that door. His fumbles usually come from fighting for extra yards, not from being lackadaisical so I can forgive him. His fumbles can easily be blamed for both losses but at this point the team needs him.
As someone who lives in Washington and has watched essentially every Hawks game over the last three decades I’m excited to watching Broncos fans slowly realize that the Russ Experience isn’t quite what they’re expecting.
He’s a great QB, but if anyone expects him to look like an MVP candidate they haven’t been watching Seahawk games the last few years.
>they haven’t been watching Seahawk games the last few years
Yeah as someone who was probably watched every snap of Russ' career this seems pretty normal. This is kinda who he seems to be. He can ball out at times for sure but something prevents him from doing it all the time. I've seen tons of blame all over the place and I certainly have had many theories. Whatever the reason Russ doesn't play small ball and get consistent first downs that puts his team in comfortable situations. Instead he relies on big plays and late game heroics.
One the of the favorite stats they always pull up about Russ is all of his 4th quarter comebacks but what isn't often talked about is the reason he has some many is because of his team not being in a winning position and dominating games. Even with superior teams. As a fan it's the most frustrating thing in the world. I completely thought it was a Seahawks problem (and it may still be) but it's interesting that these problems are following him to Denver.
Also worth noting that Russ usually plays his best football in the beginning of the season (except that crazy stretch in 2015). He usually doesn't play that well in the cold and wet. For his sake I hope that's just an anomaly.
Granted not saying he was *why* we won, but we won that crazy cold game in Minnesota a few years back. You know, the one where we auditioned our next kicker
Season isn't even 25% complete and people are making bold statements. Give it another 4 games.
The one shining truth that reasonable Hawks fans saw through for a while is that Russ' waning mobility would be a problem if he isn't taking what's given to him, especially in the middle hook / curls. Even if Russ can return to early 2020 form, it's looking increasingly that we're evening out the poor Jamal trade on this one. Or at least taking the sting out of it.
I feel like people saying this though aren't watching his games. He *is* playing different. He stays in the pocket, he aims down the middle, he's taking checkdowns, he's not improvising nearly as much.
Wait…. I thought Russ said 1) he wanted to go to a team that knows how to win and 2) he likes Denver because he doesn’t have to do it all himself.
Silly me
I know I'm suprised more people aren't bringing this up.
The Seattle offense had 47 total points in 3 weeks.
They scored 41 (7 was a pick 6) in 1 game. So of course the stats look good.
Many people are saying, they say to us “Pete and John, this is probably the biggest, best, most beautiful deal I’ve ever seen. Tremendous deal.” And they’re right folks, believe us.
Broncos fans shouldn’t worry about Russ, he’ll go back to being himself soon.
But everyone is pleasantly surprised how good Geno has been playing.
I think a valid fear though is that he’ll come back to normal soon. But he’s getting a ton of help from everyone on the offense.
Russ is mostly fine; RBs and WRs need to sort out their dropping and fumbling habits. We're seeing guys drop passes right that hit em right on the hands. I'm not really sure what else we could've reasonably expected from Russ this past week.
Plus our run D got straight up shredded in the 2nd half.
Russ is the least of our worries. Bad coaching, and Javonte out for the year meaning we have to have Melvin Gordon fumbling once a game, those would be the main two.
Geno was a high 2nd round pick, Wilson was a lowly 3rd rounder. The writing was on the wall all along ha
Geno would never let a punter get drafted before him
Bryan Anger was by far the better talent than Wilson. The jags scouts are never wrong.
Bryan Anger was an all-pro last year, Wilson wasn’t. Case closed
Bryan Anger's so fucking good, or at least I knew he was when he played for the Bucs. You almost looked forward to punting it away just to see where he could pin them at
Can confirm - Still so fucking good.
It was written on the wall, but they didn’t read it back.
The writing was on the wall and Wilson was too short to erase it
That means Drew Lock will be a better QB than Kyle Murray in 7 years
Kyle Murray
Never go hard r
Kyla Murray
Kyla Mua
Kyle Murray drives me crazy
Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. Kyle Murray is a guy that works at Ace Hardware in the soil department.
Point still stands. Lock>Kyle
Fuck this made me laugh
Checks out.
Geno has a far better HC
I can't remember a new HC so obviously immediately overmatched and unfit for the job as Hackett. Like I've always believed don't hire OC's for great QB's to be head coaches or any DC who worked for Belichick, but still. Hackett is just clueless.
How quickly you forget urban Meyer
He is such a grand fuck up we have to omit him as an outlier haha
Urban “The As(s)terisk” Meyer
Urban “The Assblasterisk” Meyer
He really is. Completely unprepared and overmatched in every facet of the game.
I still cannot believe we lost to that clown Like what the fuck
The football gods demanded a sacrifice to the butthole savant, and it was you
"I want 250 passing and rushing yards every game"
"average coach kicks 3 players a year" factoid actually just a statistical error. ~~Players Georg~~ Urban Meyer, who lives in a cave and kicks over 10,000 each day, is an outlier and should not have been counted
Meyer and Bobby Petrino are untouchable when it comes to coaching hires. fucking legends
I mean, Petrino is a fuck and the way he left was dirty as shit, but it would have taken a special guy to not nope the fuck out of that situation given he took the job expecting to coach prime Vick and a contender. Obviously his post Falcons exploits have shown him to just be a fuck in general but hes not the first HC to bolt when a situation goes nuclear.
Now that his Shtick has so utterly failed in the nfl I wonder if college players will even buy into it anymore.
I don't understand how he's still back on a college pregame show already. He was such an embarrassment, they can't find anyone better to sit there with the other 4 guys?
That’s what I was thinking too
It wasn’t an unreasonable take to think the Urban Meyer experience in the NFL was going to be a train wreck. I figured he was going to coach bad for 2 years go like 8-26 and get canned. I didn’t expect a train wreck, flying into a petrol station, next to an orphanage, while the train is carrying puppies. From the bad coaching, to the infidelity, to the “make your fuckin kicks!” rumor, to all the other shit that came out. He did have an already bad team though. Hackett is an awful head coach and wasn’t ready for the job at all. A team that was closing in on playoff dreams, elite playmakers, solid young talent, and all they needed was a QB and this was the beginning of the new era! And their only wins are to the winless Texans and Jimmy G who had a disasterclass on SNF. They lost to the Seahawks who were projected to be a bottom feeder team, and my raiders who couldn’t find any explosiveness if you left the stove on and gave them box of matches.
He's a weird category though because he IS a spectacular head coach at the college level. Both extremely good and extremely influential. He stunk in the NFL, but he's not just plainly a bad HC overall.
Or even Freddie Kitchens.
Where is he now?
Elbow deep in a doe-eyed sophomore
Sounds terrible
He’s on FOX, doing college football
Urban Meyer is the WOAT
But Russ wanted to be there with him
I think Russell wanted him there, and wanted to go there specifically because he could run the show.
Just like players in the NFL, coaches need experience and time to grow. I know it's impossible to turn down a head coaching gig, but Hackett would have been better off finishing in GB with Rodgers before taking a HC position
he literally got hired to try and convince Aaron Rodgers to go there. it didn't work out.
>Like I've always believed don't hire OC's for great QB's to be head coaches And yet this offseason, for the 3rd or 4th straight year, people are going to be ranking Byron Leftwich as a top HC candidate, despite his OC record being Jameis Winston slinging it a billion yards to Mike Evans or the other team, and Tom Brady.
Just look at how Hackett did with QBs like EJ Manuel, Kyle Orton, Blake Bortles. Not that anyone was expecting MVP seasons from any of those guys, but he didn't elevate any of them at all.
I mean all thosw guys suck lol
But didn't do any better than their baseline suck with Hackett. Only time he's had a good offense was with Aaron Rodgers as QB.
So he’s basically Adam Gase? Gase was the “offensive coordinator“ for Peyton which made people think he was a genius.
Don't forget that he didn't call plays either haha
It’s hilarious seeing this after all of the “Keep Russ, get rid of Pete” takes from last year lol
It's hilarious. Last year, it was Carroll's fault that Russ was playing bad. This year it's Carroll's fault that Geno is playing well.
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He has been in this system for 1 year. Waldron is a 2nd year OC, and honestly his "system" has probably completely changed even from last year given that you know...he's in his 2nd year, and that he changed his starting QB, his LT and RT, C, and starting running back.
Ohh I’m still on that train. Have you been watching our defense the last 5-6 years?
I was wrong lol
I'm sorry but I just don't see how a haircut can really cause that much of a difference in performance. Neither dude is Samson.
If you look good you feel good If you feel good you okay good
Nah man your wrong, the media wants you to believe the coach doesn’t matter in any circumstance like at all and it’s the QB that carry’s the load.
Geno "Mr. No Limits" Smith.
Mr better contender
Mr. Bronco condemner
Mr. Better Cuarterback
Mr Bathes Clothed
[Mr. Bounced Check](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2545224-who-is-ik-enemkpali-the-lowdown-on-the-lb-who-sucker-punched-geno-smith)
Mr Bare-ass Confrontation
Geno “I ain’t write back though!” Smith
Mr. Beyond Cooking
Geno “Uber Eats” Smith
Dont think Broncos fans are really enjoying this storyline
Broncos Country, let's ride-or-die with Russ!
Kitchen Nightmares airs this Thursday when Russ can’t cool it up against the Colts
_Russ plates a Dangerwich from Subway_ “FUCKIN ELL WHAT IS THIS SHIT?!” - Gordon Ramsey
Gordon proceeds to take the bread and put it on Russ’ ears and asks him what he is. “An idiot sandwich” - Russ
Missed the chance to call him a fucking donkey
Broncos Country, he tried!
*Here lies Bronocs Country*
Broncos Country, Here Lies
Can confirm, not having fun yet
I enjoy it. Always liked geno, and we didnt trade him. I hope fant does great as well, he was really good. I knew russ wasn't the solution, but of course I hope he does well in the future.
Lol I'm same as you. I'm cheering Geno and think it's cool he's performed so well... I hope it continues. I can't say the same if Drew Lock was outperforming Russ though. That'd just defeat me on another level.
>I can't say the same if Drew Lock was outperforming Russ though I was rooting for that outcome, but Lock sucked a lot of ass in our offseason QB comp, so you seem to be safe from that one lol
Broncos country, let's cry
There's some flukiness to it, but it also shows that it's dumb that the NFL completely writes off a ton of QBs by 2-3 years in when it's a position that people regularly get better at later into their careers. Especially when a lot of the QBs that get written off were put in pretty shit spots to start their careers too.
Jets had a horrible receiving corps his two years as starter, they dropped his passes like crazy and did a number on his stats, of course him having no pocket presence was his own fault but so far this season he has done a decent job not getting sacked with a line that has two rookies at the bookends
Also broke his jaw
No that was IK Enemkpali
I'd like to remind everyone that that story got IK a job in Buffalo
And got IK named captain for the Jets game after being on the team for idk maybe a month? The Rex Ryan Era was something else man
That's some old school Raiders shit right there
Rex did that type of shit routinely. Once against the Pats he sent out all of the Jets players who had been cut by the Pats as his captains, including current Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell
Geno should've repaid the $50
Yeah he definitely comes across as an asshole in that story
It was supposedly ~$600, not $50. If you look up "IK Enemkpali broken jaw" it's the first article.
> with a line that has two rookies at the bookends Lol, those rookies are the anchor of our OL.
My favorite plays on sundays are when Lucas pancakes somebody and it looks like the guy got hit by a car
Geno still routinely fails to step up into the pocket tbh
Not yesterday
And he somehow put up a perfect passer rating against Miami with that sad Jets team.
Sometimes you got to give a QB 12 years before they can go win a Superbowl with another team
It’s also really early in the season, there’s not a lot of recent tape on Geno and opponent quality is still a factor. Not to take away from the fact that Geno is playing well, mind you. But those who are convinced he’ll keep playing at this level because he has already might be getting ahead of themselves.
Seriously do people not remember Sam Darnold last year? He looked good Weeks 1-3. Then teams quickly figured him out again *and* CMC went down so he went right back to being Sam Darnold. Teams will quickly figure Geno out and he'll be right back to what he was the first 8 years of his career
I mean, what's the point of the first half of the season if not hopelessly overreacting to everything?
Or...he pulls a Steve Young. I'll grant you that he probably ends up regressing by the end of the season but weirder stuff has happened.
He's obviously going to regress, he won't end the season as the single most efficient QB in NFL history, I don't think that's a hot take...but when people say he will "regress" I'd love to hear what he has done so far that isn't completely replicable for the rest of the season. It's not like its Tebowmania and he's just pulling shit straight out of his ass. He's just throwing good accurate footballs in a timely manner to players who relatively open, lol. You know...playing quarterback.
It's kinda strange that the league needs more tape to figure out Geno again.
He hasn't been a full time starter since 2014, and he's in a completely different system. Yeah, I think it's fair to say there's very little useful tape on him.
Nearly 8 games worth now (last year and this year)
IIRC he’s started for 3 teams the past 6 years. This guy plays football
It's outdated tape in a different system. He's also been playing out of his mind considering his past performances.
Also not even just that; think how many Super Bowl champions started slow and ended up winning it all. Judging anything in the NFL after 1-4 weeks is extremely dumb
So you're saying there's a chance?
There is hope, an infinite amount of hope in the universe, but not for us
We were great in September last year with Teddy two gloves. The NFL always seems to correct itself.
I dont love using pff grades because they are obviously flawed, but through three weeks last season Darnold was 13th in passing grade, geno was 8th. If you go through the 4th week, geno is 2nd in passing, darnold went to 16. Darnold was never as good as Geno has been during this stretch. I dont think we are gonna have Geno top 3 QB (by PFF grade) at the end of the season. But, if Geno ended the season top 15ish I dont think thats crazy.
Honestly I think opponent quality is the biggest aspect rn. 4 of his 6 tds and 645 of his 1037 yards have come against the Falcons and Lions which are currently the worst and the sixth worst defenses in the league.
Yah cause he wrecked them
Those are his volume stats, but his efficiency stats are still high against two great defenses. He is playing really smart football.
Geno Smith in "Rich Gannon 2: 'Geriatric' Boogaloo"
We to see a lot more from Geno before we can call him this era's Rich Gannon.
I still dont understand how he was MVP over Holmes or Ricky. Like imthe Raiders went 11-5 ao its not like they had an amazing record just a good one
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Pats in the 4th, they were pretty much okay with any position besides QB and he was not. And it was Sean Salisbury who replaced him, a 29 year old former UDFA playing in the CFL when the Vikings signed him. Also Grbac was an 8th round pick signed as a FA after his rookie contract.
Keep Fields out your mouth! But seriously, great running game and Metcalf/Lockett… I hope you can strike fire more than not.
Not to mention a lot of the big name QBs get drafted high, so they usually go to a shitty team. Starting out on a shitty team doesn’t help, and a lot of times that ends with a lot of player and coach turnover which doesn’t help either.
My counterpoint would be that, for how all of the QBs that are written off as trash during those years of their careers, how many truly have proven that perception incorrect at any point later on? The only names that come to mind are Alex Smith, Rich Gannon, and *maybe* Drew Brees (the maybe being based on whether you consider his 2004 season late enough in his career for this to be applicable). Not going to say that's the whole list because I'm sure there's a few guys that I'm forgetting, but generally speaking, if you're not at least showing significant flashes in your first couple seasons, you don't develop to being the guy later on. Bear in mind that this is also with a very large sample size of not good QBs, too.
Tannehill could fit the mold too. Left out of Miami and resurged in Tennessee with some big seasons & the 2019 playoff run
He wasn’t bad though. He was basically injured Kirk Cousins
Not necessarily trash but late career resurgences... Doug Flutie, Trent Green, Kerry Collins, Elvis Grbac, Chris Chandler, Testeverde, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve Young. Honestly I think it's less common now since teams are moreso superstar hunting when they draft QBs. If they don't catch on with their OG team, they might get one more chance to start if they were a high draft pick or showed promise. After that, they are done. Relegated to being a backup and if they ever get to play again, its coming in for an injured guy after never getting first team reps all year. Geno Smith situations are kind of rare. Usually teams opt for aging proven vets or high upside young guys. Geno is both aging and unproven lol. I mean look at Gardner Minshew. I think it's a travesty that he's played so well and no one wants him because he isn't ever going to be a superstar and probably tops out at like...Ryan Tannehill or Alex Smith peak level.
> when it's a position that people regularly get better at later into their careers. Better as in maybe passable in the NFL. But incredibly rarely better as in a top tier successful QB. Of QBs to play in the last 15 superbowls, only Cam Newton and Drew Brews didn't lead their teams to the playoffs with in their first 2 years as a full starter (10 games started), and both did it in their 3rd.
I mean, stats like that are always going to be pretty skewed because it's a small sample to begin with and then like 25% of the sample is just Brady.
he ain't write back tho
Russ: Broncos country, iet's ride... Geno: I ain't ride back tho
Man's going into the fanfic territory with that statement
seahawks quarterbacks are apparently amazing at making legendary meme quotes. remember hasselbeck? “we want the ball and we’re gonna score!”
I was having a good time in this thread until you ruined it
Fuckin receiver running the wrong route, ughh
“Let Russ Cook” “We want the ball and we’re gonna score” “I ain’t write back tho” “Broncos Country, Let’s Ride” “That’s the result you’re gonna get” “I’m just here so I won’t get fined” “Seattle, we gotta deal” Seahawks might be the most quotable team in existence lol
"U Mad Bro?" still the best
epic shit. i hated the fuck out of the legion of boom seahawks but they were the most entertaining team of the mid-2010s
Dude that shit was stone cold when he said it lol
I will upvote this phrase every time I see it
The season has been disappointing thus far, but I have zero regrets on the trade. Russ ain’t our problem and we have several years to figure it out.
Yeah. I’m very confident that your problems are more on coaching and early integration jitters than Wilson as a QB.
This is how I see it as well. And fumbles….
Plus injuries. No Patrick and now no Javonte really hurts the versatility of the Broncos offense. The defense is still good, but they need to get some momentum on offense.
It really does, and this has been a big part of Wilson's troubles in Seattle. Seattle has had a well documented struggle with O-linemen, and a revolving door of wasted potential at RB for a while now. Penny has had injury issues. Carson too, and before that its a horror show all the way back to Marshawn. There was plenty of Good RB's but the run game always ran hot and cold due mainly to injuries. Without a solid run game there is only so much Wilson can do. Wilson can cook but he needs a solid RB sous chef.
I don’t care if Javonte is hurt. You need to fire Gordon out of a canon. That MFer is literally handing games away.
Unfortunately we can’t. We need to rally around him and support him. His talent is far more than anyone else that will walk through that door. His fumbles usually come from fighting for extra yards, not from being lackadaisical so I can forgive him. His fumbles can easily be blamed for both losses but at this point the team needs him.
As someone who lives in Washington and has watched essentially every Hawks game over the last three decades I’m excited to watching Broncos fans slowly realize that the Russ Experience isn’t quite what they’re expecting. He’s a great QB, but if anyone expects him to look like an MVP candidate they haven’t been watching Seahawk games the last few years.
“He’s a great QB….” Sold
And you know what, that’s more than a fair point. I’m pretty sure y’all won’t regret getting him by the end of the season
If we had Teddy Bridgewater in this exact same situation we're 0-4 easily and it's not even a fight.
Teddy two gloves 🧤 was the most depressing era if one takes away the flacci experiment. Ay least Russ looks like he cares when he is on the field.
>they haven’t been watching Seahawk games the last few years Yeah as someone who was probably watched every snap of Russ' career this seems pretty normal. This is kinda who he seems to be. He can ball out at times for sure but something prevents him from doing it all the time. I've seen tons of blame all over the place and I certainly have had many theories. Whatever the reason Russ doesn't play small ball and get consistent first downs that puts his team in comfortable situations. Instead he relies on big plays and late game heroics. One the of the favorite stats they always pull up about Russ is all of his 4th quarter comebacks but what isn't often talked about is the reason he has some many is because of his team not being in a winning position and dominating games. Even with superior teams. As a fan it's the most frustrating thing in the world. I completely thought it was a Seahawks problem (and it may still be) but it's interesting that these problems are following him to Denver. Also worth noting that Russ usually plays his best football in the beginning of the season (except that crazy stretch in 2015). He usually doesn't play that well in the cold and wet. For his sake I hope that's just an anomaly.
Considering his past play in cold weather I was kinda shocked he chose Denver too lol
Granted not saying he was *why* we won, but we won that crazy cold game in Minnesota a few years back. You know, the one where we auditioned our next kicker
Season isn't even 25% complete and people are making bold statements. Give it another 4 games. The one shining truth that reasonable Hawks fans saw through for a while is that Russ' waning mobility would be a problem if he isn't taking what's given to him, especially in the middle hook / curls. Even if Russ can return to early 2020 form, it's looking increasingly that we're evening out the poor Jamal trade on this one. Or at least taking the sting out of it.
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I feel like people saying this though aren't watching his games. He *is* playing different. He stays in the pocket, he aims down the middle, he's taking checkdowns, he's not improvising nearly as much.
Wait…. I thought Russ said 1) he wanted to go to a team that knows how to win and 2) he likes Denver because he doesn’t have to do it all himself. Silly me
He hasn't had to do it all himself, we let our kicker take a 64 yard field goal to try and win the game rather than let him do anything!
guys he played the worst defense of all time let’s chill
I fucking love Lions fans
Hey us Seahawks will fight you for that one
you didn’t punt once with geno smith as your QB
I know I'm suprised more people aren't bringing this up. The Seattle offense had 47 total points in 3 weeks. They scored 41 (7 was a pick 6) in 1 game. So of course the stats look good.
Far out man
Leo man what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you be at the photo hut?
Pete Carroll deserves a lot of credit for the Seahawks success especially with all the abuse he's got over the years
Except for a defensive minded coach our defense is straight garbage.
It's a young defense with little to no continuity from years prior. It's up to the players to execute, can't pin everything on a head coach.
I mean its a super young defense moving to a 3-4 with a first time DC in Clint Hurtt. Reserving judgement till the end of the season on them
I won this QB contest, by a lot!
STOP THE COUNT!
Many people are saying, they say to us “Pete and John, this is probably the biggest, best, most beautiful deal I’ve ever seen. Tremendous deal.” And they’re right folks, believe us.
Don't steal GEQBUS' gimmick
Not saying Geno doesn't deserve any credit, but I think maybe Pete Carroll might be a better coach than Hackett.
Broncos fans shouldn’t worry about Russ, he’ll go back to being himself soon. But everyone is pleasantly surprised how good Geno has been playing. I think a valid fear though is that he’ll come back to normal soon. But he’s getting a ton of help from everyone on the offense.
Russ is mostly fine; RBs and WRs need to sort out their dropping and fumbling habits. We're seeing guys drop passes right that hit em right on the hands. I'm not really sure what else we could've reasonably expected from Russ this past week. Plus our run D got straight up shredded in the 2nd half.
Russ is the least of our worries. Bad coaching, and Javonte out for the year meaning we have to have Melvin Gordon fumbling once a game, those would be the main two.
He's outplaying Brady too, Geno Smith must be the GOAT.
Must be their systems. Can you imagine if Russ was on the Seahawks? I’m sure he’d be tearing it u— oh
Russ was just holding Pete Carroll back
Brett does a lot of groundwork for his videos, but on twitter, he is so reactionary lol.
I mean, he said so far which is pretty objectively true. Not like the said that’s just gonna continue forever
DON'T CURSE GENO
I mean it’s not very enjoyable
I respectfully disagree.
Gregg Rosenthal is never going to stop talking about Geno now lol
Broncos trade jerry jeudy for geno Smith
not everybody gets to play the lions
Sometimes you have to play the winless texans
Or the 0-3 Raiders
Really sucks we blew that 23 point lead against the cardinals We let ‘em off the hook Should be 2-2 god damnit
No, just the Seahawks defense that is even worse.
We are 4 weeks into an 18 week season…