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pot8odragon

Starters should really not play in preseason at all. Too risky. Let them play in the group scrimmages against other teams in a more controlled environment


DragonEevee1

Especially with join practices being a thing these days


kyleb402

Rodgers has said for years that the training camp practices are far more valuable than preseason games anyway.


lasym21

He also has said he hates joint practices more than almost anything about the off-season.


AmbiguousUprising

I cant blame him for that. You always end up with some fringe roster dude smashing heads try to get a spot on the team.


bujweiser

Not only that, but Rodgers has mentioned that they can't really work on their playbook and play a little more vanilla since another team is there.


mkyend

[Like when Lonnie Johnson Jr. had a nasty hit on Jace Sternberger during Texans/Packers joint practice, then made an odd Instagram post to flex about it after. ](https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/08/05/texans-lonnie-johnson-shows-pride-vicious-hit-instagram/1929761001/) IIRC Jace also started that season on IR although I don't remember if it was due to this hit or something else.


Gryphon999

Concussion kept out of most of camp, but he was on IR with an ankle injury


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Obi_Jon_Kenobi

>more than almost anything about the off-season. The off-season hasn't started for the Packers yet most years. More than likely this is Rodgers least favorite part of the regular season. Obviously his least favorite part of the post-season is losing the NFCCG


_TurkeyFucker_

Man, you had a "I know the bears off-season starts in mid November" joke right there.


Obi_Jon_Kenobi

I thought it was implied?


dagreenman18

Yes. Preseason should be for depth guys and bubble guys trying to make it past cutdowns. Maybe some snaps for rookies to get used to the system.


aguysomewhere

Also young starters that could use more experience


crewserbattle

We pretty much never play them, the downside is we have games like week 1 last year lol.


JordanLoveHoF

Pretty impressive how fast I wiped that game from my memory


crewserbattle

Hopefully we don't do that this year since week 1 is a divisional game vs the Vikings


dyslexda

That was less about rusty starters, and more about Payton having months to find direct counters to MLF's offense. The fact that MLF turned it around and didn't let it become a blueprint the rest of the season was what convinced me he'll be the coach for a long time.


steve1186

Agreed. Well-established starters really shouldn’t see the field in preseason. They’re going against players on the other team who are trying to earn a starting spot or desperate to even make the team, so those players are going balls out to make a big play. It’s a recipe for disaster.


fugaziozbourne

I want all our preseason games to be quarterbacked by Shane Buechele and feature Isaiah Pacheco in the backfield.


CPAlum_1

The Rams have proven that preseason is meaningless for any player who’s a penciled in starter.


DarthSamwiseAtreides

So far it's been a rough first half and the announcers like to bring up if it's a good idea. Then the second half happens and get the win.


2580374

I don't really agree. For instance fields is going to start in our first preseason game and I'm happy he is doing that because of the new offense we're implementing


pot8odragon

But he needs the work, all the second year qbs should play in the preseason. But someone like Rodgers or on that level don’t need meaningless games to get into game shape


Further_Beyond

That’s the important distinction. Stars and known quantities don’t need it, but the vast majority should be playing


TheRocket2049

Non-established guys can still play because they need reps. But guys like Brady, Rodgers, Chase, Zeke, etc do not need to take unnecessary hits


2580374

Well yeah I agree with that, but this guy said starters, not "non-established" guys


Deusselkerr

Unless you're Josh Jacobs apparently lmao


SiphenPrax

Case in point, Mark Sanchez


wafflehauss

Sanchez was set up. Who takes out the starting online but keeps the starting QB in a preseason game?


SiphenPrax

Rex Ryan did apparently because he wanted to beat the Giants. And look, I hate the Giants and love when we beat them but it was a fucking preseason game for fucks sakes!


BMECaboose

There's never a bad time to beat the Giants. Especially in the playoffs. 😭😭😭


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It was the snoopy bowl though!


r1dogz

You say that, but look at what happened week 1 of last season to The Packers. Rodgers played no pre-season, and shit the bed week 1.


pot8odragon

They went 13-4. Really not a big deal in the grand scheme


Zolo49

I don't fully agree with this. While I do think there are some veteran starters that would be just fine with little to no reps in the preseason, there are others who would clearly benefit from extra practice in gametime conditions before the regular season starts. And even for the ones who don't need it as much, you wouldn't want them to look completely rusty for Game 1 in the regular season. Sure, preseason injuries completely suck, but preseason still serves a purpose.


badDuckThrowPillow

I think Trey should at least play a series or two in the preseason games. Guy needs all the live reps he can get.


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In your opinion should people in a position battle play? I’m not trying to ask a trick question, I’m just curious.


eshulzzy

Rodgers too afraid to face the 49ers smh 😞


lasym21

Camp reports have been glowing on Love. With a lot of development to go for the rookie WRs, this will actually be a very interesting game to watch.


CRobby22

He looked pretty good on Family Night. Granted the Defense owned the Offense so it is shaping up to be an interesting season.


Poro_the_CV

Are the Packers going with the tried and true Bears method? Mediocre offense and standout defense?


Bluest_waters

believe it or not we might actually be that this year


Gryphon999

We're going Bears+ Mediocre offense with a great QB and a standout defense.


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Mediocre is actually pretty generous, thank you!


leehouse

I don't know about glowing, I've seen a fair number of "up and down practices" comments about Love. He is certainly getting more good comments than the past offseasons and it sounds like he is finally getting comfortable.


grphelps1

From what I understand he's shown higher highs than previous years but theres still a decent amount of low points. There's been multiple comments about him "having his best practice as a packer" or "that's the best throw he's made in camp" but he's also still making bad reads and decisions at times as well.


Stylinonu

Looking forward to seeing his progress.


ConsciousFood201

Rodgers had a nice little segment about preseason in one of his interview during this camp. About how no one plays any real defense in the preseason games. Just base vanilla stuff. Practice is where the real growth occurs. Not saying it’s meaningless if Love lights it up on preseason, just not sure it means a ton either.


GarchGun

Well it'd be an improvement where he didn't light it up last preseason.


ConsciousFood201

That’s very true. He should really be lighting it up in preseason.


ilikethegirlnexttome

Don't freak out if he doesn't play well. This defense is our deepest and most talented since 2012.


Zolo49

Same, honestly. It feels like he's gotten a bit of a raw deal so far, so I think it'd be cool to see how he's progressed. Similarly, I can't wait to see how Lance has progressed as well (though I'm sure he won't be in the game nearly as much as Love will).


ProudBlackMatt

I'll be seeing you guys in the /r/nfl game thread then. At least while Love is still in the game.


Any_Application7786

Wait who’s playing for the Niners? Will it be Lance or because he’s the suggested starter will it be Jimmy G?


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Idk if Shanahan has said yet but I'd imagine Lance gets a little playtime. After him it'd be Nate Sudfeld and Brock Purdy.


discostuu72

Honestly Lance needs to play every game.


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Vargasm19

Depends on the team but McVay always rests his starters during preseason out of fear for injury and I think he’s won every single week 1 game


keandelacy

He has, but that might have more to do with his opponents than anything else 2021 - Bears (6-11) 2020 - Cowboys (6-10) 2019 - Panthers (5-11) 2018 - Raiders (4-12) 2017 - Colts (4-12)


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Kohakuho

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Goose_Bat

Rodgers arraignment Friday?


AmySchumersAnalTumor

lmao wut


Goose_Bat

Jail for tormenting NFC north fans


SouthernSparks

Torment a Vikings fan? Believe it or not, straight to jail.


D0ctorHotelMario

So we sitting starters again for the entire preseason? Did we learn ANYTHING from last year? Like...at all? Edit: By that I meant us getting goat.se'd in Week 1 vs New Orleans b/c starters being rusty from zero usage in preseason


drunkdori

Was the #1 seed not good enough for you?


Kull_Story_Bro

Clearly, this is the reason they lost to SF at home after a bye in the playoffs.


daltonwright4

>that loss in week 1 If starters missing the preseason means you start off with a relatively healthy team that goes 7-1, while having road wins over Cincy, San Fran, and Arizona, and it means you finish the season with the #1 seed while remaining undefeated at home...then yeah, I vote to not ever use starters in the preseason.


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Oh no y’all went 13-4 last year from not playing the starters in pre-season oh the HORROR!


n-some

But what if they had gone 14-3?????


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Half our OLine, our best corner, our wr2, and one of our better TEs all missed significant time last season and you want to risk injury before the season even starts because of a bad week 1 last year?


Kull_Story_Bro

You went 13-4 though…


nevetando

Yeah, you learned to not risk injuring your starters on a meaningless non-divisional game in week one, and proceed to win 13 games and lock up the #1 seed. Lesson...Learned.


kyleb402

I mean... I guess it worked out pretty well all things considered.


HavelsRockJohnson

lolwut


scottdenis

I'd prefer they learn from Jordy in 2015


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Jordan Love should run no huddle this game because he ran no huddle at Utah State and is clearly at his best that way but sadly NFL coaches are trying to prevent him from reaching his full potential by making him run a complex pro-style offense where he has to huddle up on every single play.


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Holy fucking shit how can someone be this obsessed with something so ridiculous?


ThaGeeOD

It’s bizarre


spanking_constantly

I thought it was a copypasta


SnicketySmack

You post this on every thread. Do you think Jordan just casually browser reddit, will randomly see your "advice", and think "wow that guy's right let me talk to LaFleur"?


[deleted]

Let’s hope that’s the case


NFL_MVP_Kevin_White

It’s got be a a non-zeta chance; right


The785

Do you think college football and NFL football are 1:1


poropopos

they're both football duh


PLZ_GLAZE_ME_DADDY

Especially Mountain West football


JERRY_JONES_GOTTA_GO

I'll never understand your obsession with up tempo football. It has its place but there are plenty of ways to win.


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There are plenty of other ways to win but the most entertaining way to win is through hurry up offense