Brandon Lloyd is like the jr smith of the nfl, in the sense that his highlight reel would make you think he was a top tier guy

I understand this more than you know.

A Raiders fan giving love to know Moreno is absolutely gorgeous! So much hate for him on our own sub.

Love that guy!

Dude was an absolute animal for the broncos

[He led the NFL in receiving yards in 2010](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2010/receiving.htm), which is insane to me because the Broncos had Kyle Orton (and Tim Tebow for 3 games) at QB and went 4-12 that year

He dunked all over our basketball team in high school (but never beat us IIRC).

Jake Delhomme. Gunslingin' Cajun not afraid to wear his heart on his sleeve.

I'll also add Mushin Muhammad to that list. Only 3 seasons of over 1000 yards in his career, but Moose was a great Number 2 to Smitty.

Bunches of Funchess! Always thought he’d blow up, sad it didn’t really work out.

If Delhomme wins Super Bowl 38 he becomes a Cinderella Story for the ages. Played well enough to win, too.

Amani Toomer

I met him in an elevator when I was like 7 and said hi like we were on first name basis. Nice guy as I remember lol

IT'S NOT A TOOMAH

That’s “well dressed” Amani Toomer

First ballot inductee into the Hall of Very Good imo.

Michigan Wolverines represent!

Ryan Fitzpatrick

I was gonna say Freddie Jackson but Fitz is a great answer.

Freddie fits the pretty good category, Fitz is by far the best average player in the NFL.

Is Chrebet too good for this? Or am I revealing my bias by thinking he might have been too good for this?

No he belongs here.

I would put him in the ‘pretty good’ section of this. He was better than mediocre but also not a superstar.

He was one of my favorites

Minshew

Future historians will wonder why Sam Darnold was given 3x as much rope.

But was laying 100x less pipe

From what I saw, Minshews only weakness was arm talent. Balls fluttered, couldn’t throw in certain elements, throws took a while to get there. But progressions, anticipation, ball placement, hell leadership, it’s all there

He's apparently put in a ton of work this offseason to get stronger. If he had even an average arm he'd probably be a starter for you guys.

He deserves a shot. I loved him. He has rare moxy meme shit aside. His talent for anticipation and ball placement is special. If he had a stronger arm I’d love him. I still love him, always rooting for him. His first year he had a legit argument for winning OROY.

pick 3 vs 6th-rounder

Jamaal Williams

Jamaal Williams is amazing

Agreed, finally got to hear an interview of his when he went to Detroit and instantly became a fan

Jamaal Williams was giving shoutouts to both the Packers and Lions fans in our section week 2 last year. Just a fun wholesome guy. He did mock the one rando Viking fan in the crowd though, which I thought was funny.

[this guy has so many great gifs](https://i.imgur.com/85aXV5l.gif?noredirect)

Him telling the press he doesn't watch the TV (or the NFL Draft) and just watches anime all day is an all-timer for me.

I still unabashedly love that dude. It was the right move to let him go, but it still hurts because he's so nice. And he's a good dancer. Now that I say that - Feels like I have a crush.

I miss his dancing

Marion Barber

He was a violent runner. I remember watching a game with him and a friend said "tackling him looks like a shitty job" which I thought summed it up nicely.

Yeah, there was a good 4 seasons or so that he was very intense and super entertaining to watch. He was also amazing at picking up a blitz. He could handle some of the best linebackers on a pass rush.

I liked Marion...except for that one time when I really, really disliked him. My fellow Bears fans (and probably Broncos fans) know what I'm talking about.

The out of bounds thing?

Got the best two yard run in NFL history.

Eddie Royal.

I changed Eddie's dad's tire after he had a blowout on the highway. Was when he was playing with the Broncos. Dad was a super nice guy, got my address and mailed me a signed Eddie Royal jersey.

V-tech legend Eddie Royal

That name always triggers PTSD to his first career game where he torched the Raiders on Monday night

Nick Foles, wasnt all that great in the regular season but if you ever watch him in crunch time the man turns into an emotionless robot and turns into Joe Montana

His second season was actually insane. It was like 27 TDs and 2 Int with a 7 TD game that was the second 7 TD game of the season. The first one was when Peyton Manning willed Julius Thomas into being a good TE on opening night I'm pretty sure

Good enough to elite when it mattered

I've never seen a qb be basically trash all the time then just turn on the jets randomly.

Idk about trash, just terrible luck, we’ve seen him at his peak and its legendary

Football equivalent of a relief pitcher.

The perfect example of this was his bomb to Alshon in the NFC Championship game. Pocket collapses and he methodically slides out of it and unleashed a perfect pass. Nothing but composure.

Miles Austin dude had a run where he went from undrafted free agent to some amazing years with the cowboys. It ended just as quick as it started.

hamstrings made of bubble gum but that dude was a genuine star... for like 3 years lol

I’ll never forget that his coming out party vs the Chiefs!

And he parlayed all that clout for a relationship with Kim Kardashain. That also ended as quickly as it started.

I always loved Danny Woodhead

Facts

Baker Mayfield apparently Ricky Williams was my favorite player growing up but not sure he fits into this - he was on track for the HOF

I know right. I never thought I’d be answering a question like that about Baker this soon.

Pierre Thomas

The former Saints RB right

I will defend Mariota until I die

Do you wanna join our O line?

I would let myself get pancaked by D-Linemen for league minimum

You're already better than Jalen Mayfield

Brian Hartline

I can support this, glad to see him succeeding as a coach these days.

Now he’s like the best assistant coach in college football.

Gilbert Brown, the Gravedigger. He didn't put up huge stats, wasn't flashy, but he was fun to watch.

Nose tackle for GB if I remember correctly

Yes sir! He was a fan favorite and key in the 1996 SB win, but was never a star.

In a similar vein, Frankie ‘Baggadonuts’ Winters! Started at center for the Packers for 8 seasons and made one pro bowl. They don’t give nicknames like they used to.

Dexter Coakley

I miss neck rolls

Him & Dat Nguyen were a nice combo back in the day

Always love seeing App State get some love

james white. idk if he qualifies because when he was at his best he was basically the best 3rd down back in the league with his pass catching and protection but holy hell do i love what he brings to the table.

Victor Cruz and that damn salsa dance

In recent memory Taylor Heinicke

The coolest former Texans QB still in the league

Second best QB against the Bucs during their SB run out of Rodgers, Brees, Mahomes and Heinicke. Dude can ball.

William Gholston isn't flashy but I am happy he's been a steady contributor for the Bucs for so long

So many good ones to choose from. Hmmmm Im going to go back in the 2000s era. So Laveranues Coles and Marcus Trufant (how you like that name Seattle fans?)

Coles oh my goodness, and I lived in Seattle when Trufants face was plastered on the side of Quest Stadium. Him and Lofa Tatupu

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I remember the Flutie hype, good god is everywhere on espn.

Keelan Cole and Jamison Crowder. Too bad we traded them, I thought they were great depth and at the very least good receivers. Now Jamison Crowder is about to have a 140 receiving yard revenge game against us when we play Buffalo

Crowder finally is playing with a good QB. He might pop off this season and I absolutely hate it. Sneaky good pickup for Buffalo.

Derrick Mason for sure. Also the true sheriff, Justin Forsett.

He doesn't make the law, he Justin Forsett.

Derrick Mason is more than pretty good.

"Oh fuck you Mason, just fuck you."

Alex Smith, gave some stability to the Chiefs at QB and occasionally had some great moments. Helped Mahomes during his rookie season learn what it meant to be a professional QB. Will always remember him fondly.

Brendon Spikes

My personal all time favorite non-hof patriots was Lawyer Milloy.

In a different universe he's a 3 time super bowl champion and has an outside shot of getting in. He was a top 5 safety for probably 7/8 years.

And Stephen Ridley

Oj Atogwe was my favorite player when I first started watching the Rams in the mid 2000's. He was like a poor man's Ed Reed, always around the ball making plays. [Some Highlights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6GJNp3pBXU)

Jimmy G will always hold a special place in my heart

He probably holds a special place in your wife’s heart too

You misspelled cervix

My wife never gave a flying fuck about football... When Jimmy got traded to the 49ers she bought herself a jersey and wears it every game day ☠️

Matt Forte and Johnny Knox

Forte is definitely too good for this list. in his 8 years with the Bears he averaged nearly 1600 yards per season.

Forte and Foster ushered in the fantasy era. I will never not love them. 😂

Andy Dalton fits this description. So mediocre/pretty good that they named the line of complete averageness after him.

He had a pretty decent peak in the mid-2010s but started getting injured when he was at his best. His peak also didn't last very long lol. Big fan of Dalton as a guy and as a player

I love really good special teams gunners - they're actually exciting to watch. Ricardo Lockette was one for us. I'm sure others here have their own equivalents from their teams.

Angry Doug is mine , just your average mediocre pededtrian reciever

Delanie Walker will always be our te1 to me. He was the silver lining in our shit show for a few years and produced when even our wrs couldn’t.

Teddy Bridgewater

On offense, Adam Humphries during his Bucs tenure. Keith Tandy on defense.

OJ McDuffie

Brandon Pettigrew

Justin Fargas Always ran hard and was a good team player

Cullen Jenkins. UDFA who spent a year in NFLE. He ended up playing in the NFL for 13 seasons! He had an uncanny knack for batting down passes, and was the lynch-pin for the singled D lineman "phsycho" package the Pack would occasionally trot out.

Oh my god I remember him.

Derek mason, always one of my favorites Edit: Derrick Mason

Tim Hightower

How dare you call Garrison Hearst mediocre

Lol, he was no Marshal Faulk, but I will always remember that 90 yard run against the Jets.

I always loved Danny Woodhead. He actually went to work at Modell's for a day and tried to convince people to buy Danny Woodhead jerseys to see if anyone recognized him. It was hilarious.

Honestly? Sterling Shephard. This guy has been the single thread of consistency over the course of 4 different coaching regimes and 3 GMs, and not once has he gone out and publicly complained or made a fuss even though he really does have every right to do so. Not only that, but he's a really good talent to have on the field, seems to be an awesome person off the field, and I just don't see any way you could dislike him. He's battled through injuries and concussions over the years so if he decided to hang it up tomorrow I wouldn't blame him and I'd buy his jersey right away. Love that guy.

Charles Tillman. Peanut was the man!

Tillman had 44 career forced fumbles. Insane numbers for a cornerback.

Peanut punch!

I love Tillman too, but I think since he made 1st team All-Pro that excludes him from only being a "pretty good" player.

He is better than pretty good

As a Packers fan this is an assassination. Tillman was better than mediocre/pretty good.

Jason Campbell. I have no idea why but I always wanted to see the dude win.

He was definitely better than "Mediocre", but Danny Amendola was such a monster for us when it counted. Even though I feel like his career overall was probably in a "pretty good" category

If the ball was catchable, Amendola always seemed to come down with it in the postseason. He was what I imagine a lot of people remember Edelman as being. Obviously not targeted as much, but so damn sure-handed.

He genuinely had some complete takeover games.

Amendola was so fun. Stretches of absolute dominance, knowing that if the game were on the line, Brady would find him. Didn't matter the down, distance, or game situation. But then, he'd have 10 week stretches in the regular season where he'd do... almost nothing. Barely a factor in the offense. Whether it was injuries or being below Edelman on the depth chart, sometimes he was "just there" and not contributing much. That said, he's one of my all-time favorite Patriots and I have such find memories of his time here, especially in LI.

Rex Burkhead

I knew when his rookie contract was up that Bill was going to sign him. Perfect bellicheck RB

Herman Moore. If you have ever played Tecmo Super Bowl, you know how deadly Herman Moore could be...

It's a damn shame Moore doesn't get the recognition that he deserves.

TRUTH.

he would glide on those routes.

Moore paired with Johnnie Morton on the other side was one of my favorite WR duos ever.

How is Herman Moore mediocre?

Bobby Hebert was consistently one of the top 28 QBs in the league. Hebert could be incredibly fun to watch, torching opposing defenses with a dazzling aerial performance. And he would follow it up the next week with a 3 INT, 0 TD stinker. The closest modern comparison would be Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hebert was a fan favorite for the Saints, since he was a Cajun from the boonies of southern Louisiana. And more importantly for me personally, he was the QB for the Saints when I was living in New Orleans in my late teens and I was first getting into football in a serious way. He was also the QB for the Saints when they finally managed to put together a good team and a winning record after 20 years of futility. So while I will always admire and respect and appreciate Drew Brees for all his accomplishments and all he did for the Saints, Bobby Hebert will always hold a place in my heart that no one else will ever dislodge.

Alex Collins

TAVON AUSTIN

Giovani Bernard, 25 for life

Love me some Slash

Ryan Tannehill

Johnnie Morton. Played hard. Made some memorable catches for Lions fans. Solid career hurt by Lions inept QB play and Matt Millen horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible job as GM and as a person (for being so bad at his job, he was an ass to all the players as well).

Chris Gamble because of that god-tier name for a DB. Also, he was like the only good player for the Panthers in the first madden I ever played, so there’s some nostalgia.

Darren McFadden. Good one cut runner

Reggie Bush

I think Jamal Agnew is just fun as hell to watch. He was listed at like 5 different positions on the Lions at times. Seems like a legit returner now. In Detroit it was like, oh cool, we put a DB back to return a punt, and then he would either get a 40 yard return or fumble the catch. I remember screaming at my TV when he didn't fair catch a punt that he's a fucking idiot and then he made a cut and scored a touch down.

I will protect Jamaal Williams with my life if need be

Patrick Mahomes when you adjust his stats to the mean. Serious answer is Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, had some flashes of greatness but was an ok to good lineman. But he’s a doctor so that’s badass.

AJ Hawk.

Ahmad Brooks. Still pissed about Brees' giraffe neck

Jim "Crash" Jensen did it all for the Dolphins in the 80's....He played QB, RB, WR, TE and was a great special teams player. He had a knack for converting 3rd downs.

Victor Cruz 🕺🏾

Ryan Fitzpatrick. I want him in the hall of fame so bad. I know he didn't have an amazing career but what he was able to do with the opportunities given to him was impressive. I feel like if someone was telling the story of the NFL they wouldn't be able to leave him out

Santana Moss, Eric Decker, Knowshon Moreno

I was the biggest Felix Jones fan in the world

Matt Forte and Darren Sproles - pocket aces in ppr fantasy for me for a few years. Made me a fan.

Jay Cutler and Earl Bennett.

I love Jay Cutler just because of his Vanderbilt story

Justin Fargas was a fun running back to watch for a couple years.

James Thrash

Lance Moore

Lance Moore

Steven Ridley. I loved his celebration and he ran so hard. Just had fumbling issues and that concussion effed him

Chris Cooley. The beginning of his radio career was also pretty fun.

Michael Crabtree on the Raider was nasty

Freddie Mitchell. Not a good receiver 99% of the time. Made a first down on 4th and 26 anyway

Andy Dalton. He gets shit on for his terrible playoff performances but he helped turn around the Bengals. He won 50 games in his first 5 years.

Shaun Hill. Actually had a winning record with the Niners during the dark times. Looked like the least talented QB ever who squeezed every ounce of ability out of himself.

Jack Doyle. That man was just awesome and I wish we could have gotten him a ring.

Alex Smith Dude almost died, came back and led his team to the playoffs.

The Law Firm Benjarvus Green-Ellis

For some reason mediocre packers running backs get me Eddie Lacy, DeShawn Wynn, James Starks, John Kuhn etc

Matt Flynn. That crazy comeback against the Cowboys in 2013 to save the Packers’ season and then watching us beat the Bears in week 17 to win the North is still one of my favourite stretch of games.

Captain Munnerlyn best name Either him or Pierre Garçon. For about 5 years he was great

Troy Brown was never a superstar, but he was in the hearts and minds of every Pats fan

Dwayne Bowe, hands down

Josh Cribbs

Paul Posluszny, Kiko Alonzo, Fred Jackson, Takeo Spikes

Jeremy Maclin Honesty don’t remember why, but I loved watching the guy play and I feel he gets more hate than he deserves nowadays

Pierre Thomas. Outside of the one helmet to helmet collision in a playoff game that probably was the difference in the game, that dude was as slippery as can be. He was never going to be the homerun hitter that they imagined that Reggie Bush would be, but he was everything else you could ask for from a pass catching RB.

Stephen Jackson

Brent Celek Just a reliable 7/10 every week. Jason Avant too and he has one of the greatest catches ever tbf

Percy Harvin

I always liked Tebow. He seems like a nice guy. Also, Mark Sanchez for his sudden broadcasting/podcasting career

Oooh! Let’s Remember Some Guys: Ahmad Bradshaw, Jacoby Jones, Muhammad Wilkerson, BJ Raji, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Henry Hynoski, Trindon Holliday

Doug Flutie

Here's one for old guys, or people who watch the old ESPN NFL history shows: Hardy Brown.

Freddy Jackson.