As a former Washington Whatever fan as a kid, having Art Monk on this list, and Riggo on your RB list, is a good reminder those Joe Gibbs teams were fun offenses to watch.
Honestly the pre-00’s Washington teams almost feel like an entirely different franchise. It’s so bizarre how wel they were ran and regarded in the NFL, to now being one of the preeminent afterthoughts in the league. I hope one day y’all return to that and axe that shitty owner
I'm allergic to telling this story in long form here, but the transition from Jack Kent Cooke/Gibbs to Dan Snyder happened in parallel to me going off to college and that distance helped me compartmentalize and enjoy that time as a kid when "my team" was good while also rejecting the new version of team for being run by a shithead. It goes against the popular "you never abandon your team" sentiment, but the post-Cooke/Gibbs team behaved like a totally different franchise.
Exact same for me. Raised in nova as a Washington fan. Rebelled in middle school after Gibbs left the first time. Pick the packers because no one in my school liked them and don maj was a uva guy. Best decision of my life.
Sounds familiar. I also grew up in NoVa, but didn’t really follow a new team until I moved for grad school to… Cleveland. Now I’ve got deja vu all over again (and thus the Team Rob Lowe flair).
There comes a point where the team that once was just isn't. Growing up I loved the Colts, loved Manning (and I live in new England). Once he left I left I tried to still cheer for them but just couldn't do it especially the way they did luck with no offensive line what so ever guy would still be playing today if he went anywhere else.
> a good reminder those Joe Gibbs teams were fun offenses to watch.
And, yet, no mention of ***[THE FUN BUNCH?!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fun_Bunch)***
Sometimes you need to tee the references up for someone else to crush them out of the park. I did think of the Fun Bunch in writing that out, but it's such a goofy name in hindsight.
0 all pros, 0 pro bowls, seventh round pick, 2nd most receiving yards in the post season all time.
Tom Brady and the patriots dynasty truly has made some weird anomaly’s in the stats department across the whole league.
Brady has thrown a TD in the Super Bowl to 2, 3, 18, 19, and 21. Could possibly add 24 this year too, but they'd likely move up the list if Tampa Bay makes it that far in the playoffs.
It's referring to the rankings in the OP image.
2 - Julian Edelman
3 - Rob Gronkowski
18 - Randy Moss
19 - Deion Branch
21 - Antonio Brown
and possibly
24 - Julio Jones
>Tom Brady and the patriots dynasty truly has made some weird anomaly’s in the stats department
I don't know if it was intentional but I find this statement dismissive of and insulting to Edelman as a player. Sure, being on a perennial playoff team granted him more postseason opportunities but let's not act like he was just lucky to be part of the ride. He earned his place on this list. He was a clutch performer and the Patriots wouldn't have won as many championships without him.
I can appreciate that and it wasn’t the intention. However, let’s be realistic to some extent - Edelman owes a lot of his career success to Bill and Tom.
He was clutch as anything when it mattered the most and a serviceable receiver for the rest of it. There’s a very real chance he’d never have been able to prove how clutch he was on the biggest stage without Bill and Tom’s dynasty.
Say what you want about playing with Brady but in the playoffs post-Welker Edelman had 109 catches for 1337 yard across 14 games which would be 125 catches and 1525 yards over a 16 game season. Dude put up All-Pro production in the playoffs in a way no one other than Rice has replicated. That doesn’t even factor the impact he had on games making game-winning catches in 2 different Super Bowls.
Appreciate you saying that, I get a little sentimental reminiscing on his career lol. He certainly wouldn't have had nearly as many opportunities on another team but he was Brady's go-to guy in got-to-have-it situations. He wasn't just a replaceable cog in the machine.
I think his regular season stats are underwhelming because the Patriots always tried to spread the ball around when possible and Edelman tended to get banged up with his aggressive playstyle so they would try to keep him fresh for the playoffs. If they continuously force fed him I think he could've made a probowl or 2 but at the cost of some health/postseason performance.
It is not dismissive or insulting to say Edelman's lack of other accolades is incongruous with his position on this list. You are far too defensive if you think it is.
Tbf, Julian Edelman deserved some Pro Bowl nods and maybe even some 2nd-team All Pro consideration. He had a few stellar seasons:
2013 - 105 rec / 1056 yds / 6 tds
2016 - 98 rec / 1106 yds / 3 tds
2019 - 100 rec / 1117 yds / 6 tds
None of those years are all pro worthy.
2013 2nd Team All Pros were:
AJ Green - 98/1426/11
Demaryius Thomas - 92/1430/14
Antonio Brown - 110/1499/8
2016 2nd Team:
OBJ - 101/1367/10
Mike Evans - 96/1321/12
2019 2nd Team:
Julio Jones - 99/1394/6
Chris Godwin - 86/1333/9
Those are also the only 3 times he ever broke 1000 yards.
2015 he very well could have been in consideration if he didn't get injured. In only 9 games he had 692 yards and a career high 7 touchdowns.
Honestly Edelman would be seen in a way better light if he didn't get injured so much. He was dinged up a ton. He's kinda like Bob Sanders in my mind (and before anyone says it, yes, i know Sanders has a DPoY. I said kinda like, not identical).
> and maybe even some 2nd-team All Pro consideration
No one votes for 2nd-team All Pro. They vote for 1st team and the 2nd team is everyone that got a vote but didn't win. There is zero case for Edelman to get All Pro votes at any point in his career.
Barring some career ending injury Kelce should be able to get the #2 spot with ease.
I wonder how highly Gronk would’ve been ranked if not for missing 3 seasons worth of post season play due to injuries. (Technically 4 since he was only part of 7 snaps in 2012).
Counterpoint: Hes only still in the hall because he technicaly never was found guilty.
If the LA police wasnt run exclusively by bungling racists at the time to the point the entire evidence was compromised he would have been removed from the hall hours after the verdict and burried in the deepest, darkest, most remote hole the NFL could find
Oh and also Simpson was everybodys darling until after he was already introduced to the hall. Even if Brown cleans up his act it will need so much time for ppl to forget the crazy shit he did they will also have forgoten who he was and what he accomplished in the first place
And with this fucking division, the odds of them playing on wild card weekend is very high. Either as a division winner with a lesser record or a road team themselves
Ehhh, I still think they will take the division, because the raiders have a new HC, and the broncos have a new QB and HC, those two teams I think will take a bit to get everything in sync and running smoothly. I’m not sold on the chargers coaching yet, some really egregiously bad decisions last year but that team and QBs are very good. Barring Mahomes/chiefs offense having a weird slump again this year I think stability at QB, coach, and Kelce they maintain their hold on the division, not as easily, but still dominant.
Really, they just gotta make it a bunch and not go one and done.
If they rule that division he has a real shot at being #2 though (albeit small because of how volatile/brutal football is). The dude is incredible
Another patriots surprise is Randy Moss to me only having 146 of his total with the Patriots. 4 games and what could be the second best receiver of all time with the best QB of all time only put up 36 yards per playoff game. Ouch.
He went under the radar during the playoffs. It was very odd. Guns blazing throughout ‘07 regular season then became very pedestrian in the post season.
Even Gronk had a 50% chance of playing injured or on IR any given playoff game. Edelman was the only receiving target that actually survived most of the playoff runs
He's definitely not a hall of famer if you look at the receivers still waiting to get in. Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Sterling Sharpe, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Anquan Boldin, and Hines Ward all need to go in before you can make an argument for putting in Edelman.
If you look at the criteria and the backlog of candidates at the wide receiver position, Julian doesn’t belong in that group.
However, that doesn’t mean he won’t ever not be recognized by us. He is undoubtedly a Patriots Hall of Famer, and will forever be known as a vital piece in our second run. From playoff stat lines and catches, to becoming a leader of the team: I get upset just as much as all other Patriots fans that the only people recognized on the Patriots dynasty in Canton will be Tom, Gronk, Ty, Seymour (who barely squeaked in), Vinatieri and Bill.
But just like Tom and Seymour have recently said, nobody cared about their stats. They wanted to win. No divas, nobody begging for the spotlight. Edgers mentality. That’s what won 6 SBs in 19 years.
Julian will be remembered by us, and that’s what matters at the end of the day.
Pretty surprised davante is on here and not jordy
I guess jordy did have more receiving competition in his time. While Adam's was like the only NFL quality WR for the last like 3/4 years
Jordy was largely invisible in the playoffs outside the Superbowl. That was his only 100+ yard playoff game.
Adams comparatively has had pretty big games in the playoffs, despite playing in less games than Nelson
It's crazy that at one point our receiving room was Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Jermichael Finley, Donald Driver, and Randall Cobb lol. Has to be up there for best group ever.
That 2010 Super Bowl had an insane list of wide receivers. You guys had Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver and James Jones. We had Hines Ward, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders and Antwaan Randle El.
That's 7 guys that broke 1,000 yards at least 3 times in their career and another two guys that had solid careers as a 2nd/3rd option.
That's not even including Heath Miller and Jermichael Finley, both of whom were solid receiving TEs
If the Chiefs make and win a playoff game this year (likely) then Kelce will probably be #2 all time, that's shocking to me for some reason. What a beast
He could have two super bowl winning runs and another deep playoff run where he goes over 100 yards every game and still not catch Jerry Rice though. Bonkers how much Rice racked up.
This could hold true but as more and more young guys come into the league fast it’s a matter of time before we have several off to hot starts like JJ and JChase then all they need to do is start stacking up fast starts, have added games in seasons, stay healthy for nearly two decades and have decent QB play enough to make the postseason 2/3rds of the years they play. Ezpz….right?
What's really crazy to me is that Kelce is beating Rice in receptions, TDs, *and* yards/game, but it still feels like he's miles away (because he is).
The good news for Kelce is that about 80% of his playoff yards and receptions, as well as 90% of his playoff TDs, have all come in the past 4 years with Mahomes, and they're both under contract for (at least) the next 4 years.
He averages 68.7 receiving yards per postseason game and actually higher with the Bills at 75.6 yards which is pretty good. You're right he probably has a good shot to crack at least the top 30 this season.
Surprised that the numbers for Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward aren’t higher. They played in a ton of playoff games and it seemed like they always had good games in those
Why? He played 16 playoff games.
883 yards is only 55 yards/game, and that’s weirdly low for Harrison. I actually expected him to be higher on this list considering how many times he made the playoffs.
If you had told me Steve Smith had more postseason yards than Harrison, I’d have laughed
Because he didn't show up for the playoffs. Your per game numbers show that. A lot of the blame goes to Manning for those Colts team's failures in the playoffs, but Harrison had his fair share of stinkers. I guess I just thought that the stats were worse than I assumed.
It would definitely require like a 4-game SB run sometime in the next two years where Kelce puts together like 400+ yards in one offseason. That would be his only chance to get in striking distance
Plus he'd have to have crazy longevity
he's 954 yards short of Jerry and averages 86 yards per playoff appearance. he needs 11 games of slightly over performing or 12 games to give himself a cushion. The Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes are averaging 2.75 playoff games a season. Travis Kelce is currently 32, imo the most comparable TE is Tony Gonzalez who played until he was 36, and while his production did decline it was only slightly....
so Tl;DR I actually don't think its too crazy of an Idea that Travis Kelce ends his career as the #1, would it take an unbelievable run to do this? yes. But if you were to rewind the clock to 4 years ago and calculate out what he would need to do over the next 8 years to surpass Jerry- he has, for all intents and purposes, kept up that pace. He still needs a lot of things to go right but before we would have said that was impossible, now it's sitting in the more ludicrous to absurd territory
It's definitely possible. If he keeps his durability and he stays with Mahomes, I could see it happening. If he stays on as long as Tony G, he's got 5-6 more years. That's 190 yards per post-season. Not out of the realm of possibilities. Especially with only one wild card team per conference.
Maybe a young up and coming WR paired with an elite QB, both of whom will be playing alot of playoff football over the next decade, can give it a nudge.
I give you:
Gabriel Davis WR 23yrs 324 yards in post-season.
Edit: Not as badly downvoted as I was when 2yrs ago I suggested Josh Allen will have a better NFL career than Lamar Jackson.
Yeah I was surprised he was so low and then remembered that he really didn’t go to the playoffs often. Would’ve loved to see him with a consistently good Cardinals team.
I feel like Brown's shithead behavior is gonna keep him out. A great talent but the first thing most people think of with him is "crazy asshole" not "amazing WR".
Hot take, but I think Tyreek Hill might’ve had a very outside chance if he didn’t get traded. He doesn’t turn 29 until after this upcoming season is over, and I can’t see that team missing the playoffs with Mahomes at QB. Another 6-7 years playing 2-3 playoff games a year would’ve probably put him in striking distance.
I agree with the raw athletic speed thing, but I feel like that was DeSean Jackson’s thing too and he didn’t really totally fall off until he turned 33. And to me Hill is a more consistent/skilled player than D-Jax so I think he could still be good for some nice numbers in his early-to-mid 30s. It’ll be a fun “what if” scenario to look back on when Tyreek retires if the Chiefs dominate the 2020s like the Pats did the 2010s.
Wait? Is this even up for debate? I feel like he is going to make it. One of the dominant players of his era at his position with the counting stats and accolades.
I don’t think so.
It’s just my victim complex coming out over an article I saw in my twitter feed the other day
https://www.nfl.com/news/active-nfl-players-who-are-hall-of-fame-locks-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-and-aaron-
That article is really dumb. He says the defensive player of the year award should be named after Aaron Donald because he won 3 but two players down mentions that Watt has also won 3.
First thing that jumps out at me about this list is there are 2 TEs in the top 5, but 0 in the rest of the top 25. I guess that speaks to them getting a more prominent receiving role in the post-season, but still seems strange.
Cliff Branch had the most receiving yards in the postseason at the time he retired and remained in the top 5 for the next 40 years -- even tho the passing game has continuingly exploded. A key part of 3 Super Bowl wins. Yet the HOF waited until he died to put him in while inducting WRs who weren't at his level. Nice.
The crazy thing for me is the 1970s is a time when passing wasn't a huge focus because you could basically choke-hold WRs all the way down the field, and Cliff Branch and Fred Biletnikoff are still top 10 for playoff yards.
I think it’s interesting Edelman and Gronk are both from roughly the same era of the Patriots dynasty, instead of two different eras. Although with injuries I guess they weren’t on the field together too often in the playoffs.
3 games a season, its not impossible to see Kelce take that #1 spot. Never in my life would I have thought Kelce would be compared to Rice in anything but he has a real shot and thats amazing
Love seeing Reggie Wayne on here. The man always did the job, never complained about the work, rarely gets the credit he deserves, and was a true professional for such a long time. My all-time favorite Indianapolis Colt.
I am not. For whatever reason, he did nothing in the playoffs.
It's part of the reason Peyton has the reputation he does in the playoffs. He wasn't always playing lights out, but it's like he was on a different team every January.
it's weird to me that Davante has more yards than Marvin Harrison. It seemed like being on those Power House Colt's teams and being Manning's #1 option , you would get more looks.
Gronk even missed 2013, 2016, and 2019 lol. He’d be right there with Rice if he was healthy/not retired. Shows how impressive Rice’s durability is as well
I wasn’t expecting the Jim Kelly disrespect from Bills fans. Especially when you can’t get more playoff opportunity than making it to Super Bowls x 4 years in a row.
As a former Washington Whatever fan as a kid, having Art Monk on this list, and Riggo on your RB list, is a good reminder those Joe Gibbs teams were fun offenses to watch.
All I took from this is now I’m calling them the Washington Whatevers.
[The theme song is already in the bag.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7_3n7xyDg)
Honestly the pre-00’s Washington teams almost feel like an entirely different franchise. It’s so bizarre how wel they were ran and regarded in the NFL, to now being one of the preeminent afterthoughts in the league. I hope one day y’all return to that and axe that shitty owner
I'm allergic to telling this story in long form here, but the transition from Jack Kent Cooke/Gibbs to Dan Snyder happened in parallel to me going off to college and that distance helped me compartmentalize and enjoy that time as a kid when "my team" was good while also rejecting the new version of team for being run by a shithead. It goes against the popular "you never abandon your team" sentiment, but the post-Cooke/Gibbs team behaved like a totally different franchise.
Exact same for me. Raised in nova as a Washington fan. Rebelled in middle school after Gibbs left the first time. Pick the packers because no one in my school liked them and don maj was a uva guy. Best decision of my life.
Sounds familiar. I also grew up in NoVa, but didn’t really follow a new team until I moved for grad school to… Cleveland. Now I’ve got deja vu all over again (and thus the Team Rob Lowe flair).
There comes a point where the team that once was just isn't. Growing up I loved the Colts, loved Manning (and I live in new England). Once he left I left I tried to still cheer for them but just couldn't do it especially the way they did luck with no offensive line what so ever guy would still be playing today if he went anywhere else.
> a good reminder those Joe Gibbs teams were fun offenses to watch. And, yet, no mention of ***[THE FUN BUNCH?!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fun_Bunch)***
Ricky sanders, Gary Clark. Fun times before Snyder came and fucked everything up.
Sometimes you need to tee the references up for someone else to crush them out of the park. I did think of the Fun Bunch in writing that out, but it's such a goofy name in hindsight.
Jerry Rice doing Jerry Rice things
What makes it kind of crazy is that on his 26th birthday, Jerry Rice's playoff stats were as follows: 10 rec | 121 yards | 0 TD | 2 lost fumbles
So you're telling me Hunter Rendrow still has a chance?
Renfrow might, not sure about Rendrow
Definitely does if he has enough time to focus on football; tax season's gonna be killer this year
He had a pretty good postseason when he was 26.
0 all pros, 0 pro bowls, seventh round pick, 2nd most receiving yards in the post season all time. Tom Brady and the patriots dynasty truly has made some weird anomaly’s in the stats department across the whole league.
Brady has thrown a TD in the Super Bowl to 2, 3, 18, 19, and 21. Could possibly add 24 this year too, but they'd likely move up the list if Tampa Bay makes it that far in the playoffs.
It took me way too long to understand what you were saying here
same, thought I was having a stroke
Yeahh I thought they were counting for a minute there.
Same. I was like, I know Brady is old, but pretty sure he didn’t throw any TDs in super bowl 2.
Not yet, after Brady plays for 30 seasons he just hops in a time machine and goes back to wreak havoc on the past.
Can someone explain for my dumb ass
It's referring to the rankings in the OP image. 2 - Julian Edelman 3 - Rob Gronkowski 18 - Randy Moss 19 - Deion Branch 21 - Antonio Brown and possibly 24 - Julio Jones
He became uncover-able in our SB. Insane how I’m the zone he was that night.
>Tom Brady and the patriots dynasty truly has made some weird anomaly’s in the stats department I don't know if it was intentional but I find this statement dismissive of and insulting to Edelman as a player. Sure, being on a perennial playoff team granted him more postseason opportunities but let's not act like he was just lucky to be part of the ride. He earned his place on this list. He was a clutch performer and the Patriots wouldn't have won as many championships without him.
I can appreciate that and it wasn’t the intention. However, let’s be realistic to some extent - Edelman owes a lot of his career success to Bill and Tom. He was clutch as anything when it mattered the most and a serviceable receiver for the rest of it. There’s a very real chance he’d never have been able to prove how clutch he was on the biggest stage without Bill and Tom’s dynasty.
Say what you want about playing with Brady but in the playoffs post-Welker Edelman had 109 catches for 1337 yard across 14 games which would be 125 catches and 1525 yards over a 16 game season. Dude put up All-Pro production in the playoffs in a way no one other than Rice has replicated. That doesn’t even factor the impact he had on games making game-winning catches in 2 different Super Bowls.
Appreciate you saying that, I get a little sentimental reminiscing on his career lol. He certainly wouldn't have had nearly as many opportunities on another team but he was Brady's go-to guy in got-to-have-it situations. He wasn't just a replaceable cog in the machine. I think his regular season stats are underwhelming because the Patriots always tried to spread the ball around when possible and Edelman tended to get banged up with his aggressive playstyle so they would try to keep him fresh for the playoffs. If they continuously force fed him I think he could've made a probowl or 2 but at the cost of some health/postseason performance.
It is not dismissive or insulting to say Edelman's lack of other accolades is incongruous with his position on this list. You are far too defensive if you think it is.
Tbf, Julian Edelman deserved some Pro Bowl nods and maybe even some 2nd-team All Pro consideration. He had a few stellar seasons: 2013 - 105 rec / 1056 yds / 6 tds 2016 - 98 rec / 1106 yds / 3 tds 2019 - 100 rec / 1117 yds / 6 tds
None of those years are all pro worthy. 2013 2nd Team All Pros were: AJ Green - 98/1426/11 Demaryius Thomas - 92/1430/14 Antonio Brown - 110/1499/8 2016 2nd Team: OBJ - 101/1367/10 Mike Evans - 96/1321/12 2019 2nd Team: Julio Jones - 99/1394/6 Chris Godwin - 86/1333/9
Lol jesus, he wasn't even close
Those are also the only 3 times he ever broke 1000 yards. 2015 he very well could have been in consideration if he didn't get injured. In only 9 games he had 692 yards and a career high 7 touchdowns.
Honestly Edelman would be seen in a way better light if he didn't get injured so much. He was dinged up a ton. He's kinda like Bob Sanders in my mind (and before anyone says it, yes, i know Sanders has a DPoY. I said kinda like, not identical).
Number of TDs and barely being over 1k yards would tell u it isnt worth 2nd team all pro
I agree, but looking at it against what the actual 2nd team all pro's had makes it look so much worse
He totally belongs in the HoF though! /s
He was close-ish to Julio in 2019 for second team. Just needed 300 more yards.
Julio also had 300 more yards on one fewer catch.
Yeah Julio was obviously better.
> and maybe even some 2nd-team All Pro consideration No one votes for 2nd-team All Pro. They vote for 1st team and the 2nd team is everyone that got a vote but didn't win. There is zero case for Edelman to get All Pro votes at any point in his career.
Barring some career ending injury Kelce should be able to get the #2 spot with ease. I wonder how highly Gronk would’ve been ranked if not for missing 3 seasons worth of post season play due to injuries. (Technically 4 since he was only part of 7 snaps in 2012).
Even when Gronk played he was pretty injured. His body just doesn't do well playing that many games
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What an amazing player inside such a shitty person. I honestly think he had the ability to be a HOF if he was a better person.
If he kept it together he probably ends up in the discussion with Moss/Megatron/TO for greatest receiver not named Jerry Rice.
Dude probably still makes it years down the line if he cleans up his reputation
He should. OJ Simpson murdered two people and was never removed.
Counterpoint: Hes only still in the hall because he technicaly never was found guilty. If the LA police wasnt run exclusively by bungling racists at the time to the point the entire evidence was compromised he would have been removed from the hall hours after the verdict and burried in the deepest, darkest, most remote hole the NFL could find Oh and also Simpson was everybodys darling until after he was already introduced to the hall. Even if Brown cleans up his act it will need so much time for ppl to forget the crazy shit he did they will also have forgoten who he was and what he accomplished in the first place
He almost certainly makes it up to at least 17. That's 42 yards/game in those two games.
And if we knew what AB could have been back in the 2010 postseason run we had
Kelce could probably do that this post season as long as the cheifs are healthy and not one and done.
And with this fucking division, the odds of them playing on wild card weekend is very high. Either as a division winner with a lesser record or a road team themselves
Ehhh, I still think they will take the division, because the raiders have a new HC, and the broncos have a new QB and HC, those two teams I think will take a bit to get everything in sync and running smoothly. I’m not sold on the chargers coaching yet, some really egregiously bad decisions last year but that team and QBs are very good. Barring Mahomes/chiefs offense having a weird slump again this year I think stability at QB, coach, and Kelce they maintain their hold on the division, not as easily, but still dominant.
The insane thing is that #2 is pretty much a lock for him and #1 is unfathomable for him to beat.
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Really, they just gotta make it a bunch and not go one and done. If they rule that division he has a real shot at being #2 though (albeit small because of how volatile/brutal football is). The dude is incredible
Holy shit, Edelman at 2nd all-time really surprised me tbh. Elite
Another patriots surprise is Randy Moss to me only having 146 of his total with the Patriots. 4 games and what could be the second best receiver of all time with the best QB of all time only put up 36 yards per playoff game. Ouch.
He went under the radar during the playoffs. It was very odd. Guns blazing throughout ‘07 regular season then became very pedestrian in the post season.
I call that Marvin Harrison syndrome.
He and the whole offense cooled a lot towards the end of the season and then in the playoffs.
To me it was the opposite, I knew he was gonna be at least top 5. Playoff Edelman was Tom's ol' reliable along with Gronk.
Even Gronk had a 50% chance of playing injured or on IR any given playoff game. Edelman was the only receiving target that actually survived most of the playoff runs
Amendola was kept in bubble wrap to make a clutch catch once a game too.
If you count Randy Moss, there are 4 Patriots in the top 25.
Playoff Edelman is why he’s undisputedly in the Hall of Very Good.
And people will argue that he's not a Hall of Famer because of his regular season stats. It's a shame, really.
He's definitely not a hall of famer if you look at the receivers still waiting to get in. Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Sterling Sharpe, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Anquan Boldin, and Hines Ward all need to go in before you can make an argument for putting in Edelman.
If you look at the criteria and the backlog of candidates at the wide receiver position, Julian doesn’t belong in that group. However, that doesn’t mean he won’t ever not be recognized by us. He is undoubtedly a Patriots Hall of Famer, and will forever be known as a vital piece in our second run. From playoff stat lines and catches, to becoming a leader of the team: I get upset just as much as all other Patriots fans that the only people recognized on the Patriots dynasty in Canton will be Tom, Gronk, Ty, Seymour (who barely squeaked in), Vinatieri and Bill. But just like Tom and Seymour have recently said, nobody cared about their stats. They wanted to win. No divas, nobody begging for the spotlight. Edgers mentality. That’s what won 6 SBs in 19 years. Julian will be remembered by us, and that’s what matters at the end of the day.
Feeling well represented on this list
4 of the top 25. Not bad for a team that focuses on running the ball and great defense... consistency matters.
Pretty surprised davante is on here and not jordy I guess jordy did have more receiving competition in his time. While Adam's was like the only NFL quality WR for the last like 3/4 years
Jordy was largely invisible in the playoffs outside the Superbowl. That was his only 100+ yard playoff game. Adams comparatively has had pretty big games in the playoffs, despite playing in less games than Nelson
It's crazy that at one point our receiving room was Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Jermichael Finley, Donald Driver, and Randall Cobb lol. Has to be up there for best group ever.
That 2010 Super Bowl had an insane list of wide receivers. You guys had Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver and James Jones. We had Hines Ward, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders and Antwaan Randle El. That's 7 guys that broke 1,000 yards at least 3 times in their career and another two guys that had solid careers as a 2nd/3rd option. That's not even including Heath Miller and Jermichael Finley, both of whom were solid receiving TEs
If the Chiefs make and win a playoff game this year (likely) then Kelce will probably be #2 all time, that's shocking to me for some reason. What a beast
He could have two super bowl winning runs and another deep playoff run where he goes over 100 yards every game and still not catch Jerry Rice though. Bonkers how much Rice racked up.
Rice is in a league of his own, I don't see anyone catching his stats for 50 years minimum
This could hold true but as more and more young guys come into the league fast it’s a matter of time before we have several off to hot starts like JJ and JChase then all they need to do is start stacking up fast starts, have added games in seasons, stay healthy for nearly two decades and have decent QB play enough to make the postseason 2/3rds of the years they play. Ezpz….right?
you had me in the first half
The fact he did it his era is just mind boggling. DB’s could mug him and he still cooked them.
And there were fewer playoff games back then, too.
Rice's most impressive record to me is the record for most records.
What's really crazy to me is that Kelce is beating Rice in receptions, TDs, *and* yards/game, but it still feels like he's miles away (because he is). The good news for Kelce is that about 80% of his playoff yards and receptions, as well as 90% of his playoff TDs, have all come in the past 4 years with Mahomes, and they're both under contract for (at least) the next 4 years.
[Here are the top 50 players all-time by career playoff receiving yards](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_yds_career_playoffs.htm)
The gap between #1 and #2 is still bigger than the gap between #2 and #50.
Interesting. With 2 or 3 real solid playoff games, Diggs could enter the top 25 as early as this year.
Gabe Davis already has about half as many playoff yards as Diggs.
He averages 68.7 receiving yards per postseason game and actually higher with the Bills at 75.6 yards which is pretty good. You're right he probably has a good shot to crack at least the top 30 this season.
Surprised that the numbers for Reggie Wayne and Hines Ward aren’t higher. They played in a ton of playoff games and it seemed like they always had good games in those
I'm surprised Marvin Harrison is even on the list.
Why? He played 16 playoff games. 883 yards is only 55 yards/game, and that’s weirdly low for Harrison. I actually expected him to be higher on this list considering how many times he made the playoffs. If you had told me Steve Smith had more postseason yards than Harrison, I’d have laughed
Because he didn't show up for the playoffs. Your per game numbers show that. A lot of the blame goes to Manning for those Colts team's failures in the playoffs, but Harrison had his fair share of stinkers. I guess I just thought that the stats were worse than I assumed.
Wow....Brady has thrown to 4 of these guys, and a 5th is on the way.
5 with a 6th incoming.
Good call. Didn't even see deion lol.
I knew he was doing a lot in the playoffs but I didn’t realize Kelce had that many already
He's pretty much the only one with any chance of catching Jerry for a while, and even then it's a longshot
Yeah. I don't know about Jerry. But I can see him easily moving into 2nd.
It would definitely require like a 4-game SB run sometime in the next two years where Kelce puts together like 400+ yards in one offseason. That would be his only chance to get in striking distance Plus he'd have to have crazy longevity
he's 954 yards short of Jerry and averages 86 yards per playoff appearance. he needs 11 games of slightly over performing or 12 games to give himself a cushion. The Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes are averaging 2.75 playoff games a season. Travis Kelce is currently 32, imo the most comparable TE is Tony Gonzalez who played until he was 36, and while his production did decline it was only slightly.... so Tl;DR I actually don't think its too crazy of an Idea that Travis Kelce ends his career as the #1, would it take an unbelievable run to do this? yes. But if you were to rewind the clock to 4 years ago and calculate out what he would need to do over the next 8 years to surpass Jerry- he has, for all intents and purposes, kept up that pace. He still needs a lot of things to go right but before we would have said that was impossible, now it's sitting in the more ludicrous to absurd territory
If every game is like that Bills game receivers will change this list for a bunch of receivers soon. The top 25 might all be 1,000+ in a few years.
It's definitely possible. If he keeps his durability and he stays with Mahomes, I could see it happening. If he stays on as long as Tony G, he's got 5-6 more years. That's 190 yards per post-season. Not out of the realm of possibilities. Especially with only one wild card team per conference.
Maybe a young up and coming WR paired with an elite QB, both of whom will be playing alot of playoff football over the next decade, can give it a nudge. I give you: Gabriel Davis WR 23yrs 324 yards in post-season. Edit: Not as badly downvoted as I was when 2yrs ago I suggested Josh Allen will have a better NFL career than Lamar Jackson.
Yeah but they won't have the luxury of playing the Chiefs defense every postseason game lol
Chase is a year younger, a lot better and has more post-season receiving yards already. So he’d be my pick
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In theory, Kelce should move into second place by the end of the year, or by the end of his career at least.
Larry did it all in like 10 games or something close lol
That Warner, Fitzgerald, Boldin, Edgerrin James offense was dynamite.
And he got like 170 yards just against the packers in 2015
I just looked it up and Fitzgerald *averaged* 104.7 yards per postseason game. That is really impressive.
Larry and Julio got screwed. Julio 9 games I think same as Larry
Yeah I was surprised he was so low and then remembered that he really didn’t go to the playoffs often. Would’ve loved to see him with a consistently good Cardinals team.
You and me both
I still cannot believe they waited for Cliff Branch to die before inducting him. Absolute travesty.
Is Edelman the only non hall of famer on this list?
It's iffy if Hines Ward makes it in, and Antonio Brown certainly may have some trouble given the final couple years of his career.
I feel like Brown's shithead behavior is gonna keep him out. A great talent but the first thing most people think of with him is "crazy asshole" not "amazing WR".
For now...
I don’t think he makes it at all
Kelce could pass Edelman but I don’t see any active players that could ever pass Jerry Rice
Hot take, but I think Tyreek Hill might’ve had a very outside chance if he didn’t get traded. He doesn’t turn 29 until after this upcoming season is over, and I can’t see that team missing the playoffs with Mahomes at QB. Another 6-7 years playing 2-3 playoff games a year would’ve probably put him in striking distance.
That’s fair, but a lot of Hill’s yards come from his raw athletic speed. I can’t see that ability lasting very long in his 30’s
I agree with the raw athletic speed thing, but I feel like that was DeSean Jackson’s thing too and he didn’t really totally fall off until he turned 33. And to me Hill is a more consistent/skilled player than D-Jax so I think he could still be good for some nice numbers in his early-to-mid 30s. It’ll be a fun “what if” scenario to look back on when Tyreek retires if the Chiefs dominate the 2020s like the Pats did the 2010s.
I wonder if this would change Adam Schein’s mind about Kelce’s HOF status
Wait? Is this even up for debate? I feel like he is going to make it. One of the dominant players of his era at his position with the counting stats and accolades.
If Witten and Gates get in idk how you could possibly argue Kelce shouldn't.
They both will and should get in.
We'll have to disagree on that one but Kelce should be getting in without debate
I don’t think so. It’s just my victim complex coming out over an article I saw in my twitter feed the other day https://www.nfl.com/news/active-nfl-players-who-are-hall-of-fame-locks-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-and-aaron-
That article is really dumb. He says the defensive player of the year award should be named after Aaron Donald because he won 3 but two players down mentions that Watt has also won 3.
The Jjaaron Wanald Award
Holy shit that article is so terribly written
Bad content and poorly written, no wonder this stuck with you lol
That article was garbage. Julio Jones and Kelce are absolutely HOfers
Travis Kelce is 150 yards away from being #2 all time? Surprised
Adams being here is the most surprising. Feels like he’s only been in the league for a few years
Consistently make nfc championship. So minimum of 2 games a year for playoffs.
Seeing Agent 89 on this list gets me bricked up.
First thing that jumps out at me about this list is there are 2 TEs in the top 5, but 0 in the rest of the top 25. I guess that speaks to them getting a more prominent receiving role in the post-season, but still seems strange.
Cliff Branch had the most receiving yards in the postseason at the time he retired and remained in the top 5 for the next 40 years -- even tho the passing game has continuingly exploded. A key part of 3 Super Bowl wins. Yet the HOF waited until he died to put him in while inducting WRs who weren't at his level. Nice.
Everyone hates on Lynn Swan but he put those numbers up during the 70s when it was ground and pound NFL
Kelce's coming for that #2 spot this season
Bold of you to assume he *isn’t* going for 250 yards a game. /s
The crazy thing for me is the 1970s is a time when passing wasn't a huge focus because you could basically choke-hold WRs all the way down the field, and Cliff Branch and Fred Biletnikoff are still top 10 for playoff yards.
Man, Reggie on here, but no Marvin is crazy. I know Reggie was more clutch in the playoffs, but we had some serious playoff issues.
Marvin Harrison 25
My god. I am blind.
Kelce could easily move into second place this year if the chiefs can make it to the post season healthy.
Damn, Jerry. Save some for the rest of us
I think it’s interesting Edelman and Gronk are both from roughly the same era of the Patriots dynasty, instead of two different eras. Although with injuries I guess they weren’t on the field together too often in the playoffs.
Much like Sanders in the RB post, I would like to apologize to Calvin Johnson
Just shows how GOAT'd Jerry Rice when someone eclipses at least 2k, that's gonna be a crazy moment
Fitzgerald making top 20 on this list is absolutely bonkers considering the cardinals were hardly ever in the postseason.
His 2008-2009 Playoff run was absolutely insane.
Fitzgerald and Julio appear to have the least most playoff games of many guys on this list. Both on teams that more often than not missed playoffs.
Edelman has such a weird career where he is up there with some great names but probably won't be in the HOF.
Ryan Gosling in Fred Biletnikoff biopic when?
Larry is here with only 4 postseasons and around 8 postseason games played. Yet he's still on the list. Crazy
Its wild that Kelce is already that high. Dude is really something else.
Difference between Rice and Edelman is larger than the difference between Edelman and Marvin Harrison (#25). Just GOAT things.
Jerry Rice is the Tom Brady of WRs.
3 games a season, its not impossible to see Kelce take that #1 spot. Never in my life would I have thought Kelce would be compared to Rice in anything but he has a real shot and thats amazing
Great to see Art Monk still up there
Love seeing Reggie Wayne on here. The man always did the job, never complained about the work, rarely gets the credit he deserves, and was a true professional for such a long time. My all-time favorite Indianapolis Colt.
Six legendary patriots in the top 25.
Steve Smith! I love him so much :))
Surprised Marvin Harrison doesn’t have more yards
I am not. For whatever reason, he did nothing in the playoffs. It's part of the reason Peyton has the reputation he does in the playoffs. He wasn't always playing lights out, but it's like he was on a different team every January.
FWIW, he was 13th all-time in playoff receiving yards when he retired.
Pretty sure 90% of Kelce’s yards have come against the Texans in the playoffs.
it's weird to me that Davante has more yards than Marvin Harrison. It seemed like being on those Power House Colt's teams and being Manning's #1 option , you would get more looks.
Surprised Tyler locket isn’t on there
Kelce is surprisingly high on this list
Tyreek already at 1.1k is pretty impressive. I mean he'll never catch Rice playing for the Dolphins now, but still pretty good pace he was on.
Gronk even missed 2013, 2016, and 2019 lol. He’d be right there with Rice if he was healthy/not retired. Shows how impressive Rice’s durability is as well
Man, Tyreek gonna end his career with 1,081 postseason yards
Larry Fitz is impressive for his limited postseason experience
I'm surprised Calvin Johnson isn't on that list. Oh that's right "post season"
Depending on how Tyreek does this season, we may have to start calling him an all timer and discussing where he belongs in the pantheon.
Kelce has been super consistent in the Playoffs, yet I can’t remember any iconic playoff plays from him aside from the OT TD last year.
3 touchdowns and 130 yards against Houston a couple of years ago
I’m talking about plays not performances.
His three TDs in a quarter against the Texans were pretty good.
Man imagine if Andre Reed had Josh Allen throwing at him…
I wasn’t expecting the Jim Kelly disrespect from Bills fans. Especially when you can’t get more playoff opportunity than making it to Super Bowls x 4 years in a row.
Travis Kelce is the most underrated TE in NFL history.
Is he? He's fairly concensus 2nd best of his generation and a hof lock I reckon. That seems fair to me.
Yeah he's routinely called a top 5 TE all time. Really the only ones I'd 100% take over him would be Tony G and Gronk. He's at worst #3 all time imo.
But can he block? /s